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. [2]
Tested in html-validator, css-validator, FF (1.07), IE6, Opera (7.54 and
8.01), the old NS6 .2 ( see [3] ), and Mozilla 1.71.
This is the testpage
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-jeralyn-a.htm.
:-)
I saw you got it working in the meantime!
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/layouts/skidoo/
or another one from the 2 column Wiki page
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=TwoColumnLayouts!
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this is happening. How can
I get rid of the border without having this large space.
Thanks,
Liz
Hi Liz,
Here something about Problem 1:
You can give a z-index to the #leftColumn, and ... [1] testpage
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-liztest2.html
:-)
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[1
or background color can be helpful to see where the
paddings (and margins) of an element are starting and ending. Revealing
the browser secrets of padding/margin computing! :-)
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this.
HTH,
Michael
Hi Michael,
Good initiative!
Reading it, I say Yep, I can follow that! - Now I'm not working with
z-indexes every day, so don't ask me over a week to say it in own words
... - But no need, in case of doubt: back to the Wiki!
Thanks and greetings,
francky
://www.htmldog.com/ptg/archives/50.php
[...]
And a lot of examples/links are in the Listamatics:
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/index.htm
Some practical help on the List-o-matic for accessible menu's:
http://accessify.com/tools-and-wizards/developer-tools/list-o-matic/
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to the default margin for the h2 below; IE is (against css-rules)
extending the box, so it seems IE = right. But adding a {margin: 0;} is
helping, even without collapsing IE.
See also source code in: testpage
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-cityboxer.htm.
:-)
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francky
there is no need of a separate hover
background image: is has a solid color, so can be replaced by
changing only tyhe background-color of a hovered li.
Is it true?
Testpage!
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-carmelo-new.htm
:-)
Succes with the deadline,
francky
btw:
Also
for the a's , and ... hocus pocus ... they don't
display as a block (each on a new line below each other).
Testpage is here
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-dean.htm.
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a better balance can be made. Example in screenshot here
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/images/screenshot-copycamp.png.
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Pete Home wrote:
Francky,
Thanks for all your help (and Nick's), I've got a lot further than before,
but for the life of me I cannot understand why certain things work in FF but
not IE and visa versa. I know there are bugs, but it seems to make no sense.
IE is now a real mess, but FF is a lot
francky wrote:
Pete Home wrote:
[...] IE is now a real mess, but FF is a lot better!
[...] www.cityboxer.com/gambling/betting.htm
Hi Pete,
[...]
See testpage a
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-betting-a.htm.
[...]
See testpage b
http://home.tiscali.nl
Potochny, Christine wrote:
Franky,
[...] Everything works! [...]
Here my URL for the web page: http://www.elcarmelo.paloaltopta.org/
(production site) OR http://cpotochny.com/PTA/ (development site)
Francky wrote:
[...] Testpage!
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss
,
content and footer (see www.cityboxer.com/gambling/betting.htm). I want the
content to always have a rounded corner border. Francky fixed the problems
in FF with this page, so I then replaced the content with a form and saved
it as www.cityboxer.com/newsite/contact/contact_form/register_form1.htm
%2Fwww.keshavhowe.com%2F7%2Findex.php.
And, oops, the css-validator
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?profile=css2warning=2uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.keshavhowe.com%2F7%2Fcss%2Fkeshav.css?
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I don't want to abuse your goodwill, but I am now having problems with my
SECOND site. This site looks a lot like the first one, since the two are twin
sites and requested an identical look (school site and PTA site).
This is an IE issue. The content
/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-suckerfish-centered.htm.
**)
It doesn't say everything, like Georg pointed, but ... it validates
(html and css).
Greetings,
francky
btw: Maybe there can be saved some download time, if you make a div
around the header and the menu together, and put 1 combined
francky wrote 04:25:
[...]
After finishing my writing, I went back to my Inbox and saw Sandra's
post of 03:15.
Work is going on!
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testpage
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Then the fishes aren't swimming away in IE :-)
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the font size in IE, if
wanted/needed.
Is this the kind of thing you mean? New testpage
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-shrinking-new.htm.
Direction: many links to good examples are on the css-d Wiki!
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*)
Now we have to make a page ourselves before we
, which you can
scroll with a normal right side scrollbar.
This is working as well in IE (vs 6) as in FF (1.07) as Mozilla (1.7.1)
as Opera (7.54 and 8.01) as the old Netscape (6.2) under Win98SE.
Is only Safari going wrong? *)
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btw 1: The other way (with a separate scroll
{ line-height: 1em; }
can help to get rid of the 3px gap between the nav-tabs and the rest of
your page http://www.copycamp.ca/ ?
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the #sidebar also a width in % (or the #Content a
margin-left in px).
I saw IE6 is making a mess of it. Maybe inserting
{position:relative}somewhere can help (not tested).
Sorry, no more time for research... *)
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*) A less compressed css would be easier to analyse
they be
omitted. There is only a ul list nothing else.
Also they are related. Apparently the html-validator can remark the
missing things only at the end of the document (and missing start
tag = missing end tag too!)
Compare html-Tidy, which gives only line 785 as a missing dd.
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with the first half of the code?
- Anyway, often IE is a kind of black box: you put some good html and
css in it, and what comes out is always a surprise! :-D
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Thanks for your response Franky! I did what you mentioned and things
seem to work better with problem #1. I didn't understand what you
meant about See: #header { border-bottom: 1px dashed blue; }; this is
half way between the 2 lines of the h1. There is no
the same. :-)
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white) of the
ifsmain.css.
* Proving: as soon as you have more paragraphs in the body, the bar
color is stretching with the used part of the body: all lines! See
testpage
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-infoforce.htm.
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[1] With my
of course.
The 2 limo's just fit in a 800x600 resolution.
IE is glad it can present a scalable font-size to his visitors.
Maybe some use?
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[1] The other boys I don't know.
[2] Some hidden jump to main content and so can be added (and also
proper headings in the main content
{ margin-bottom: -0.5em; }
(The em-size of the h2 is bigger, so compared to the normal 1em of a p it is
around the -2em you mentioned.)
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;} or a {height:
1%;}or one of the other IE-only fixes could help, but as I cannot
reproduce the error, I cannot see where...
Maybe a {position:relative;} in all containers, and ask your client if
that helps?
Or maybe something going wrong just on your client's pc?
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,
No idea, that is: not without seeing the page! ;-)
Do you have a link to a test page, where it can be seen?
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* And/or add:
.prop { position: relative; }
... and maybe?
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this way it must be validating. [1]
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[1] Technically! @ some of the actual random backgrounds the text is not
good readable or not at all readable: because of colors and/or structure
of the img. So for me the white background at disabled javascript
doesn't seem too bad at all
browsers.
Thanks in advance
Pete
PS. My thanks once aging to Francky for all of his help.
Yep,
Fune tuning of the sticker can be made in the ... #sticker styles :-) :
#sticker {
margin-top: -152px;
margin-right: -88px;
margin-bottom: -20px;
}
is for arranging the position for FF
with the margins
of the container and the image position.
All together: see testpage
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-jocohistory.htm.
:-)
(Some comments in the source code)
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francky
btw: there are some remarks of the html-validator
http://validator.w3.org
the not closed a in the div id=poweredby is causing the
troubles?
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something is interfering)
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, load the
testpage, and see what is the real font compared to the images in your
testpage.
An example of such *optical testpage is here*
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-fonts.htm.
Hope some of this can be used.
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francky
btw:
For fine tuning the sizes
and played and ended up choosing
something fairly generic (aka boring). I did so because I gave simply up.
It would be cool if someone would write such a tool. But it doesn't exist
from everything I can tell.
Thank you again for your reply.
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: What Font Are You?
http://quizilla.com/users/jynxjynx/quizzes/What%20Font%20Are%20You%3F%20%28Standard%20Fonts%29/
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CSS2.1 info on Cascading Specificity
http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/cascade.html#specificity.
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-top: 0;
border-bottom: 1px dashed #CC9900;
}
No img needed, and even no IE hacks! :-)
See testpage
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can
add also: margin-bottom: -1px. ;-)
Greetings,
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btw:
You are aware of the loading time of the page? With fast dsl it took me
about 20 sec. of petience. And with a dialing modem ... unknown, a speed
rapport cannot be made.
See Web Page Speed Report of Websiteoptimization
http
, I don't say anything more.
Greetings,
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PS: Hé, just found an other way:
* Inside the explaining comment, use a standard beginning (like:
!-- ***- ) and a standard ending (like: -*** -- ).
* Then you can get them back with Search All ( ***- ) and Replace
All
.jpg
:-)
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and finish a few other pages that are needed!!
Once again, THANKS!
James.
www.silk-works.com
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versions or
operating systems (didn't test).
For safety, I should stick to the conditional comment method. :-)
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background images in the IE settings of your
viewing system? (IE menu Extra Internet Options Advanced Print
Checkbox Print Background Colors and Inages).
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[...]
Yes, here's a test page
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-ie-important3.htm
Sorry, wrong link; must be:
test page
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-ie-important.htm
francky
apologize if these are naive questions - i'm still struggling through the
maze of CSS-dom.
Anne
If it is about IE-errors, no naive questions exists, only a naive
browser (or something like that). ;-)
See also [2].
Greetings,
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[1]
Ingo Chao: OnHavingLayout
http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd
can be mised.
For a raw impression *): see testpage
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-messina.html.
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*)
I only adapted the main-section, with existing css. With fresh css it
can be simplified
/ul
/li
li class=L2a
href=blahTraining/a/li
/ul
/li
Hi Marc,
It smells like adding { display: block; } to the a's, but I didn't test.
Greetings,
francky
visitors use a sidebar (for history or
favorites/bookmarks). If they enlarge the sidebar area ... then
the font size is getting smaller!
My conclusion: I should never do it the second way! :-)
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no clearing thing - it's an omitted #navlist, then all [a:link]'s
are getting a float-left, a bold weight, and a color white. *) ;-)
See screenshot
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*)
If quick reading, it's a difficult one to catch
Pete Home wrote:
Thanks Francky,
In design terms allowing the user to resize fonts can throw out your design
and cause scroll bars etc to change your layout. I understand that this is a
requirement especially for accessibility reasons. However, certain things
are different. Take this for example
. The second page will be ending with the white space
which caused the gap; but that is normal for the end of a document. :-)
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Sheet Optimiser
http://flumpcakes.co.uk/css/optimiser/?
* Or CSS Optimizer http://www.cssoptimiser.com/?
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you need the sf-hover.js, but as you said a bit of javascript is
tolerable.
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francky wrote:
I thought a Suckerfish menu has ul's for the submenu's
inside the a's of the menu, and is validating as well.
Erratum!
Suckerfish has no li's inside a's! But still working. :-)
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Delete the br / before the tagline, and make it { margin-top: 10px;
}... and no more gap.
It doesn't influence FF on pc.
Testpage solution
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-demo3b-solution.html.
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francky
btw, as you have a non
Silvester Kok
H(o)i Silvester,
CSS2.1 says this about column styling
http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/tables.html#q4.
Misschien helpt dat? (Maybe it helps?)
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[1]
Tested: IE6 under Win98SE.
FF still fine.
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a {position:relative;}. And so on until the body!
* Giving the boxes a tmp {border: 1px dashed red;} ( other colors)
is also helping a lot for the diagnose.
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the refresh quite a lot, but IE6 on Win98 doesn't show any
error, besides the normal IE refresh flash.
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IE6 and FF1.7 and Opera 8.01 can have font scaling now in the header. :-)
- The nav-bar still needs some fine tuning for upscaling in FF.
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! :-)
Ah, and I see that with disabled js the page is missing the right blue
margin, and has just a bit of a horizontal scrollbar: some 20px less in
width?
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Collapsing margins
http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/box.html#collapsing-margins.
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Eystein Alnaes wrote:
Francky wrote:
I noticed ... javascript [...]
What about css styled corners/borders? [...]
Ah, and I see that with disabled js [...]
Thank you for the heads up. I forgot about that. This page needs to be
solid. The reason for the javascript etc
.jpg
p class=captionM and N are a pair/p
/div
div class=float
img src=image6.jpg
p class=captionMore pairs/p
/div
Then the bottom of each pair wil get the level of the lowest one of
both, and the new pair can start at the real left side. :-)
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[1] http
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An hour later followed by the offering of a burning cigar: this one
http://archivist.incutio.com/viewlist/css-discuss/79250.
Is see some resemblance with the actual question! ;-)
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[...]
Hi Kenneth,
I don't know the problem / I don't have IE7 and cannot reproduce; but
did you try already to give the { height: 1%; } to the #nav ul ? Or
maybe in combination with {position: relative;} ?
francky
tedd wrote:
[...] Georg:
Oh, not so -- gifted one. Please review: :-)
http://sperling.com/david/
[...] but the defaults seem to hold together well, see:
http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=284361
Comments?
Yes: both links are 404 files... ;-)
Already cleansweeped?
francky
start under the MEMBERSHIP IS FREE!
line, but at the top of the screen, I don't see at the moment. It has to
do something with the (table in the) form: when you omit the form, the
links in the nav-bar are coming back.
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[1] These are the letters at normal font size on 1024x768
-fineline.htm.
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Anne
Hi Anne,
First trick I tried was working: if added
{ position: relative; }
to the #mainleft and #mainright, then IE has more to show. :-)
See testpage
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://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/fdc-varia/styling-dropdown-boxes.htm.
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-and-tried-and-tried ... in general it is impossible with direct
css-styling, but I found a good solution for Firefox. :-)
The tragedy: it is a rather FF only workaround. :-(
See my experiment page
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/fdc-varia/styling-dropdown-boxes.htm.
Greetings,
francky
://browsershots.org/screenshots/56a099e7c1e1881f3c2dc81b5bfc48e7/.
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56a099e7c1e1881f3c2dc81b5bfc48e7/.
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Greetings,
francky
Hi Franky,
Thanks for all your effort! That is most helpful. I'll get to and
apply your recommendations, which obviously work from your testpage.
I also need to think about why these do what they do. For instance,
why 100% width can't have padding
to keep distance to the surrounding content.
Cheers,
francky
PS:
The heading tags are used more as styling elements than as parts of the
logical structure of the document. But that is html and accessibility
talk; so who wants to know what I've to say more about this (analyze,
suggestions tools
, and the page is still without a background in
FF, you come back please and we can inspect the css. But I guess after
repairing the html there will be no css problems anymore with the
backgrounds and the centering of the page.
So I hope! :-)
Succes!
francky
francky wrote:
[...]
and had forgotten to give the link for all kind of languages with
different letter signs, in case it is not common Latin what you need:
* The Unicode Character Code Charts overview
http://www.unicode.org/charts/.
A lot to choose! ;-)
f
.htm.
Everything is liquid and adaptable! :-)
For the background of the method and for more Xamples you can read:
article and playgarden Liquid Round Corners
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/liquidcorners/liquidcorners.htm.
Greetings,
francky
).
So keep hoping: to be continued!
francky
PS: Can you get the home sites already? If not, I can post my
testpage-link to the list, and send you the page and css in an off-list
mail with attachment.
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that as a
second class, the shifting is away, and the white color is coming. :-)
The the calling of the javascript for the overLIB is not 100%, I think.
See testpage
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-lucid.htm.
Greetings,
francky
btw-1: the Who are we page is identical
and btw-3: the charset is missing; the DOCtype is html4.01, while coded
as xhtml (with the /'s); and some other validating things. But I
understand you was in a hurry to get the site alive! ;-)
francky
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-right of 3px for IE-only, then it is stabilized.
And for the very very very detail-minded ;-) : the footer-width can get
a small repair to fit just under the maincontainer (all browsers).
I added both to my testpage
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-lucid.htm.
Cheers,
francky
and Mozilla1.7.1 under Win98SE: also
fine.
Netscape 6 didn't fold out, but that's a rather old one.
Did you test it from the real uploaded page on the web (needed for the
working of the csshover.htc file)?
Greetings,
francky
|PS:|
|In the style the 'type' is missing: style type=text/css
validation things.
I've put this in a testpage
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-pctax.htm.
Cheers,
francky
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