Re: [css-d] alignment position - liquid layout issues

2007-08-28 Thread Ray Leventhal
Rob Unsworth wrote:
 On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, Ray Leventhal wrote:
 
 Mine is based (very strongly) on the 'holy grail' of liquid layouts,
 from ALA [1].  We're early enough in the dev cycle to switch layouts,
 but as I consider each challenge a learning experience, I'd love to know
 what triggered IE7's failure to display the left column.
 
 Ray,
 The *html hack is known to cause problems with IE7. Try putting IE6 and 
 below specific css in a conditional comment. You could try testing in IE7 
 with the hack removed.
 

Hi Rob,
Making the *html hack a conditional lte IE6 did the trick for IE7.  I
did as you suggested and first tested without the hack..voia la!  amazing.

Thanks for your input and the suggestions by all.

@Michael,
I'm looking at the layout gala styles right now...not as well documented
in the code, so I'm hacking at it a bit, but it's as elegant as my
current solution (was before I started messing G).

Again, my thanks,
~Ray
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Re: [css-d] alignment position - liquid layout issues

2007-08-27 Thread Ray Leventhal
snip


 This aricle [1] may help with regard to some of your issues?
 [1] http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/hgjump.html
 Best,
 ~dL



 HI David,
 
 Thanks for that awesome article by Ingo  :)   I'll be diving into that
 heavily as time permits today and /hopefully/ will be able to discern
 exactly what element is in need of IE fix.
 
 In case I didn't make it clear, the issue I seem to be having is with
 Win/IE7.  I'm awaiting browsershots' queue to see how horrific it may
 look in the dreaded IE6.
 
 Kind regards,
 ~R


Sadly, still no joy in WinIE7 land for my nav div.  I've probably not
'gotten' something easy here...and would appreciate any guidance offered.


http://devel.legionpost130.org/
Appears as expected in WinFF 1.x and 2.x, Safari, etc.  No joy in
WinIE7.  Haven't checked in the dreaded IE6 yet.

Regards,
~Ray





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Re: [css-d] alignment position - liquid layout issues

2007-08-27 Thread E Michael Brandt
I am sure that your CSS layout is overall perfectly up to the task, and 
could be made to work.  But I am just thinking that others have cracked 
this nut with more easily used layouts.  Like take a look at this one:

http://blog.html.it/layoutgala/LayoutGala13.html

Within a few minutes I think you could switch over to this and your 
problems would, i hope!, be solved.

Just a thought.

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divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting
divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz

www.valleywebdesigns.com
JustSo PictureWindow
JustSo PhotoAlbum

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Re: [css-d] alignment position - liquid layout issues

2007-08-27 Thread Ray Leventhal
E Michael Brandt wrote:
 I am sure that your CSS layout is overall perfectly up to the task, and 
 could be made to work.  But I am just thinking that others have cracked 
 this nut with more easily used layouts.  Like take a look at this one:
 
 http://blog.html.it/layoutgala/LayoutGala13.html
 
 Within a few minutes I think you could switch over to this and your 
 problems would, i hope!, be solved.
 
 Just a thought.
 


Hi Michael, et al, and thanks for the link.  Very nice layout indeed.

Mine is based (very strongly) on the 'holy grail' of liquid layouts,
from ALA [1].  We're early enough in the dev cycle to switch layouts,
but as I consider each challenge a learning experience, I'd love to know
what triggered IE7's failure to display the left column.

Switching may be the way to go here...I'm not ruling it out, but I would
definitely appreciate anyone more experienced in CSS to point me in the
direction I need to go to determine what's missing for IE7 to render
that column.

I'll simplify the page and try the layout provided, just to see. Thanks.

Kind regards,
~Ray

[1]http://www.alistapart.com/articles/holygrail
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Re: [css-d] alignment position - liquid layout issues

2007-08-27 Thread E Michael Brandt
I completely understand the challenge aspect of this!  but suggested 
this alternative because it seemed to me that you'd been struggling for 
a very long time and might by now be at your wit's end.

There are other fairly pricey CSS layout products out there, as you 
know, but the link I sent you seems a great free alternative.

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divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting
divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz

www.valleywebdesigns.com
JustSo PictureWindow
JustSo PhotoAlbum

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Re: [css-d] alignment position - liquid layout issues

2007-08-27 Thread Rob Unsworth
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, Ray Leventhal wrote:

 Mine is based (very strongly) on the 'holy grail' of liquid layouts,
 from ALA [1].  We're early enough in the dev cycle to switch layouts,
 but as I consider each challenge a learning experience, I'd love to know
 what triggered IE7's failure to display the left column.

Ray,
The *html hack is known to cause problems with IE7. Try putting IE6 and 
below specific css in a conditional comment. You could try testing in IE7 
with the hack removed.




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Regards,
Rob Unsworth
Ipswich, Australia   
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Re: [css-d] alignment position - liquid layout issues

2007-08-24 Thread Ray Leventhal
Ray Leventhal wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I'm implementing a layout based (Strongly) on the holy grail liquid
 layout[1].
snip

grr...i hate it when I forget the reference :)
[1] http://www.alistapart.com/articles/holygrail
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[css-d] alignment position - liquid layout issues

2007-08-24 Thread Ray Leventhal
Hi all,

I'm implementing a layout based (Strongly) on the holy grail liquid
layout[1].

Site:
http://devel.legionpost130.org/

CSS:
http://devel.legionpost130.org/styles/post130.css
(contains some unneeded redundancies, I'm sure)

Layout issue1:
The center column text is aligned to the same height as the topmost nav
item in the left column.  The desired effect is to have the text in the
center column line up with the top of the nav div itself.

Layout issue2:
IE, at least WinIE7, does not display the nav at all.

Ideas, suggestions and general comments are more than welcome.

Thanks in advance for any offered advice.

Kind regards,
~Ray
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Re: [css-d] alignment position - liquid layout issues

2007-08-24 Thread David Laakso
Ray Leventhal wrote:
 Ray Leventhal wrote:
   
 Hi all,

 I'm implementing a layout based (Strongly) on the holy grail liquid
 layout[1].
 
 snip

 grr...i hate it when I forget the reference :)
 [1] http://www.alistapart.com/articles/holygrail
   



This aricle [1] may help with regard to some of your issues?
[1] http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/hgjump.html
Best,
~dL



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Re: [css-d] alignment position - liquid layout issues

2007-08-24 Thread Ray Leventhal
David Laakso wrote:
 Ray Leventhal wrote:
 Ray Leventhal wrote:
   
 Hi all,

 I'm implementing a layout based (Strongly) on the holy grail liquid
 layout[1].
 
 snip

 grr...i hate it when I forget the reference :)
 [1] http://www.alistapart.com/articles/holygrail
   
 
 
 
 This aricle [1] may help with regard to some of your issues?
 [1] http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/hgjump.html
 Best,
 ~dL
 
 
 
HI David,

Thanks for that awesome article by Ingo  :)   I'll be diving into that
heavily as time permits today and /hopefully/ will be able to discern
exactly what element is in need of IE fix.

In case I didn't make it clear, the issue I seem to be having is with
Win/IE7.  I'm awaiting browsershots' queue to see how horrific it may
look in the dreaded IE6.

Kind regards,
~R
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