Re: [css-d] Oldest Browser Currently Testing for

2008-03-10 Thread david
Kathy Wheeler wrote: On 09/03/2008, at 6:40 AM, Karl Hardisty wrote: A comparison of usage before and after is generally a good idea. If a site design changes, and suddenly a certain type of browser/platform combination drops off markedly, there's probably a good reason. However it may

Re: [css-d] Oldest Browser Currently Testing for

2008-03-09 Thread Kathy Wheeler
On 09/03/2008, at 6:40 AM, Karl Hardisty wrote: A comparison of usage before and after is generally a good idea. If a site design changes, and suddenly a certain type of browser/platform combination drops off markedly, there's probably a good reason. However it may also pay to check

Re: [css-d] Oldest Browser Currently Testing for

2008-03-08 Thread Tim Palac
It's all about the user data, baby! We've got no people using anything lower than IE6, so I test IE6, IE7, Firefox, Safari, Opera, and that's about it. However, I'd really like to know how to test for those several WebTV users we have visit our site every month (I didn't even know it still

Re: [css-d] Oldest Browser Currently Testing for

2008-03-08 Thread Karl Hardisty
On 7/03/2008, at 8:29 AM, david wrote: Karl Hardisty wrote: On 6/03/2008, at 7:03 AM, Rick Faircloth wrote: As far as IE goes, I test for IE6 and IE7, nothing lower. My data shows no visitors ever coming to my sites with anything less than IE6. And if they do, well, it's just time for an

Re: [css-d] Oldest Browser Currently Testing for

2008-03-07 Thread david
Rob Emenecker wrote: And remember this about logs: If you design a site that doesn't work in browser X, after awhile, you won't have anyone using browser X visit your site *because your site doesn't work.* Then you'll pat yourselves on the back and say, See - no one uses browser X. ;-)

Re: [css-d] Oldest Browser Currently Testing for

2008-03-07 Thread Rob Emenecker
I agree with everything your saying David. I was simply having one of those crap-tacular days and was trying to inject some witty sarcasm into the thread. It wasn't meant as a 'poo poo, why do you worry about that old text browser?' comment. The exact opposite is true, we should worry about it

Re: [css-d] Oldest Browser Currently Testing for

2008-03-06 Thread Richard Grevers
On 3/6/08, Mark Story [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hernly, Lee wrote: Netscape 4.X here... When testing with an older browser such as netscape 4.x are you looking for identical results to current browsers. Or just 'good enough' results? identical is impossible with Netscape 4. In

Re: [css-d] Oldest Browser Currently Testing for

2008-03-06 Thread david
Mark Story wrote: So I just wanted to get an idea of what the oldest browser you are currently testing for is? Lynx. And how are you targetting them? Hacks, conditional comments, other techniques? None needed. -- David [EMAIL PROTECTED] authenticity, honesty, community

Re: [css-d] Oldest Browser Currently Testing for

2008-03-06 Thread david
Karl Hardisty wrote: On 6/03/2008, at 7:03 AM, Rick Faircloth wrote: As far as IE goes, I test for IE6 and IE7, nothing lower. My data shows no visitors ever coming to my sites with anything less than IE6. And if they do, well, it's just time for an upgrade. I'm not jumping through

Re: [css-d] Oldest Browser Currently Testing for

2008-03-06 Thread Rob Emenecker
And remember this about logs: If you design a site that doesn't work in browser X, after awhile, you won't have anyone using browser X visit your site *because your site doesn't work.* Then you'll pat yourselves on the back and say, See - no one uses browser X. ;-) ... says the

Re: [css-d] Oldest Browser Currently Testing for

2008-03-05 Thread Rick Faircloth
As far as IE goes, I test for IE6 and IE7, nothing lower. My data shows no visitors ever coming to my sites with anything less than IE6. And if they do, well, it's just time for an upgrade. I'm not jumping through that many hoops to accommodate so few IE 5 users. And I make liberal use of

Re: [css-d] Oldest Browser Currently Testing for

2008-03-05 Thread Hernly, Lee
Netscape 4.X here... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Story Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:36 PM To: 'CSS' Subject: [css-d] Oldest Browser Currently Testing for It seems that my perception of in the wild browsers was a bit

Re: [css-d] Oldest Browser Currently Testing for

2008-03-05 Thread Karl Hardisty
On 6/03/2008, at 7:03 AM, Rick Faircloth wrote: As far as IE goes, I test for IE6 and IE7, nothing lower. My data shows no visitors ever coming to my sites with anything less than IE6. And if they do, well, it's just time for an upgrade. I'm not jumping through that many hoops to accommodate

Re: [css-d] Oldest Browser Currently Testing for

2008-03-05 Thread Brian Cummiskey
I test for SIMILAR results on Firefox2, ie6, and ie7 on pc along with safari on the mac and Konq on linux I test for 'acceptible' for ie5.5 on pc, opera, and ie5.5 on the mac __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [css-d] Oldest Browser Currently Testing for

2008-03-05 Thread scott.heckel
Virtualization is great for this sort of thing; however, specifically what I do is. Opera and Netscape The browsers allow for multiple versions coexisting on the same machine. Firefox I use a virtualization program for different older browser; however, there are tips online for getting two

Re: [css-d] Oldest Browser Currently Testing for

2008-03-05 Thread Rob Emenecker
I test for SIMILAR results on Firefox2, ie6, and ie7 on pc along with safari on the mac and Konq on linux I test for 'acceptible' for ie5.5 on pc, opera, and ie5.5 on the mac Ditto here. Basic content can be viewed testing for anything less than IE6, FF2, Safari 1.2, or Konquerer (can't

Re: [css-d] Oldest Browser Currently Testing for

2008-03-05 Thread Mark Story
Hernly, Lee wrote: Netscape 4.X here... When testing with an older browser such as netscape 4.x are you looking for identical results to current browsers. Or just 'good enough' results? -Mark __ css-discuss [EMAIL