Re: [CTRL] Keep the Homophobes Out of Our Discussion

2000-09-18 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: I am getting tired of this too since some people seem to be deliberately blurring the lines because of some propaganda machine. The following pages have a lot of possible answers so take your pick. Laura I have neither the time, energy nor desire to sort

Re: [CTRL] Keep the Homophobes Out of Our Discussion

2000-09-18 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: If homosexuals can use government land so can Boy Scouts If homosexuals can advocate a singular form of sex - so can Boy Scouts JUST because homosexuals can say that they are open to heterosexuals joining would be like Wicca saying that they are open to

[CTRL] The Gay Youth Suicide Myth

2000-09-18 Thread NSA
The Gay Youth Suicide Myth by Peter LaBarbera Peter LaBarbera, a former reporter for The Washington Times, is executive director of Accuracy in Academia, a Washington, D.C.-based group that monitors bias in

[CTRL] [prj] Re: The CIA Environmentalism

2000-09-18 Thread lloyd
.. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed] Note: We store 100's of related "conspiracy posts" at: http://www.msen.com/~lloyd/oldprojects/recentmail.html From: "Lloyd Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Alex Constantine"

Re: [CTRL] thankfully, this work is banned=Tyranny in Canada?

2000-09-18 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nessie you are too young probably to remember a song called Horsement in the Sky but it hit the Hit Parade big shotly after WWII As I recall it was sung by Vaughn Monroe who also wrote Racing With The Moon.. Vaughn Monroe did not write Racing

Re: [CTRL] Keep the Homophobes Out of Our Discussion

2000-09-18 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Yardbird" [EMAIL PROTECTED] You don't consider an active, Presidentially approved attempt to deny the BSA their constitutional rights a conspiracy? Where in the Constitution does a private group, especially one pushing a narrow religious agenda, receive a guarantee of receiving public

Re: [CTRL] Keep the Homophobes Out of Our Discussion

2000-09-18 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "nessie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only fair solution is this: Either everybody who uses the public lands pays the same fees, or everybody who uses public lands pays no fee. Both plans are fair. But if some pay and some don't, that is unfair. If the government decides who pays and who

[CTRL] New poll shows Gore with 100%

2000-09-18 Thread K
Subject:New poll shows Gore with 100% (the current state of the media) ©2000 Degenerate Propaganda Media, Inc. September 16, 2000 New poll shows Gore with 100% Hillary Clinton: Choice of the Little People Gore Holds Solid Lock on Presidency. No point in Republicans even

[CTRL] ABC: An Arkansas Grudge

2000-09-18 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
From: http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/DailyNews/wag.html ABC NEWS NEW YORK, Sept. 17 Snip An Arkansas Grudge By Josh Gerstein Whom does President Clinton blame for the ongoing effort to strip him of his law license? The media. But the Beltway press corps needn’t brace itself

[CTRL] FW: TWA800 Info

2000-09-18 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
From: FIRO http://flight800.org Dear Citizen: TWA Flight 800 crashed off the coast of Long Island, NY in the summer of 1996. Over 600 eyewitnesses were interviewed by the FBI. NOT ONE witness was ever allowed to testify at ANY public or closed-door hearing on the crash. See the second

Re: [CTRL] Home Schooling was Holocaust Museum Sued [response to multiple emails]

2000-09-18 Thread Tenorlove
--- tenebroust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is a far wiser coarse in my opinion to actually DO something to make things better where you CAN than to just bemoan how bad it is. This is what is being advocated here, and I think it is sensible. If you don't like the schools then try to change

Re: [CTRL] DSL Leaves Some Customers Fuming

2000-09-18 Thread Tenorlove
The phone companies don't have a clue how to manage an Internet business. DSL is not a big deal. These publicly-regulated local phone companies are just incredibly incompetent regarding Internet technology. I know. My PacBell experience is just unbelievable... Steve) We have Bell

Re: [CTRL] The Jesuit Oath

2000-09-18 Thread Tenorlove
I couldn't find it in the urban legends pages, but I did a Yahoo search "Jesuit oath" and got over 1500 matches, and just scanning the titles of web pages on the first page of the search, gives me the gut feeling that it is, shall we say, less than completely authentic. Most of the sites listed

[CTRL]  Mounties end probe of Promis

2000-09-18 Thread Kris Millegan
from: http://www.thestar.com/back_issues/ED2916/news/2916NEW08_NA-SPIES.html Click Here: A HREF="http://www.thestar.com/back_issues/ED2916/news/2916NEW08_NA-SPIE S.html"The Toronto Star - News Story: Mounties end pr…/A - September 16, 2000 Mounties end probe of Promis

[CTRL] [LeftLibertarian] CIA Creates Palestinian Intelligence!

2000-09-18 Thread lloyd
.. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed] Note: We store 100's of related "conspiracy posts" at: http://www.msen.com/~lloyd/oldprojects/recentmail.html From: "Samuel Konkin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[CTRL] OEN 9/18/00

2000-09-18 Thread Kris Millegan
frm: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ Click Here: A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Global Financial Mafia FATF Speaks with Forked Tongue Of course WE can launder money: we're big countries and you're not. While few would bet their house and land that

Re: [CTRL] The Jesuit Oath

2000-09-18 Thread Aleisha Saba
Well Tenorlove - it is Pope bashing and has been. My father was a Catholic - he knew the difference between propaganda and prophecywas a "messenger" during the WW. So - easy way to see things in proper perspective - look who is getting shot and murdered..three Kennedys, and Joe and John

[CTRL] NM: Debate Moderator Jim Lehrer is Our Guy, said Stephanopoulos

2000-09-18 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff Monday September 18, 2000; 10:03 AM EDT Stephanopoulos: Debate Moderator Jim Lehrer is Our Guy Jim Lehrer, the PBS News Hour anchorman tapped by the so-called "bi-partisan" Presidential Debate Commission to preside over three October face-offs between

[CTRL] JUDICIAL WATCH PROBES SALE OF SLEEPOVERS IN LINCOLN BEDROOM AND CAMP DAVID

2000-09-18 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE September 18, 2000 Contact: Richard Tomkins (202) 646-5172 JUDICIAL WATCH PROBES SALE OF SLEEPOVERS IN LINCOLN BEDROOM AND CAMP DAVID Nolanda Hill Testified Mrs. Clinton Was Mastermind Of Sale Of Trips On Trade Missions For Campaign Contributions In 1996 (Washington,

[CTRL] WND: China's New War Fighting Skills - full report

2000-09-18 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
China's New War Fighting Skills: Emerging threats to the U.S., India, Taiwan and the Asia/Pacific Region An American Foreign Policy Council investigation in Southeast Asia August 14-26, 2000 by Al Santoli http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_smith_news/golden.html

Re: [CTRL] The Gay Youth Suicide Myth

2000-09-18 Thread Aleisha Saba
Found my notes on this Gacy - in prison he called for Hustler Magazine, Playboy, and a bible. Most interesting parallel lines between Clinton and Gacy - for I believe Clinton is someone you could compare to a serial killer..slaughter of the innocents like Waco for instance what did he

[CTRL] New Discovery At Los Alamos Fire Scene (fwd)

2000-09-18 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 11:27:53 -0600 From: Howard Bleicher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: New Discovery At Los Alamos Fire Scene The fire at Los Alamos has one significant consequence. A secret scientific document was discovered in a bunker whose security

[CTRL] Racism? Or Independence?

2000-09-18 Thread J Taylor
http://www.lewrockwell.com/yates/yates15.html Racism? Or Independence? by Steven Yates Last week the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) released a series of "Intelligence Reports" purporting to reveal an upsurge in "white

[CTRL] Rumills: Fw Dark Dreams; The War of Gog Magog

2000-09-18 Thread Donald Park
Not endorsed; Hope its a crock! From: Rayelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 1:22pm Subject: THE WAR OF GOG AND MAGOG THE WAR OF GOG AND MAGOG This scenario is dependent upon either side provoking the other. I look

Re: [CTRL] thankfully, this work is banned=Tyranny in Canada?

2000-09-18 Thread Aleisha Saba
June as usual you speak and do not back up your claims. Vaughn Monroe and Pauline Pope wrote Racing with the Moon, th words - and Johnny Watson, wrote the music. Monroe was from Akron, Ohio and played here a lot - I had the opportunity to meet him once, and he ws much more handson in person

[CTRL] CIA Use of Nazi Research

2000-09-18 Thread lloyd
.. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed] Note: We store 100's of related "conspiracy posts" at: http://www.msen.com/~lloyd/oldprojects/recentmail.html From: "Alex Constantine" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Lloyd" [EMAIL

Re: [CTRL] NAZI POLICY TOWARD HOMOSEXUALS

2000-09-18 Thread Amelia
Thank you so much tenebroust, I was beginning to think I was missing posts, etc. Also, I think we should remember our motto "Caveat Lector" for each reader to beware and judge for himself the validity of a post. Disinformation is fraught in conspiracies. It is also not a good idea to assume a

[CTRL] Stratfor.com Weekly update etc. I Could Tell You, But I'd Have to Kill You: The Cult of Classification in Intelligence

2000-09-18 Thread Donald Park
Stratfor.com's Weekly Global Intelligence Update - 18 September 2000 _ We knew it before it was news. Iran: Looking to Enter the Global Arms Market

[CTRL] Fwd: Antigravity experimenter arrested

2000-09-18 Thread Kris Millegan
A bit late, but interesting nonetheless http://www.amasci.com/weird/wsotw.html John Hutchison's Web Page NEWS FLASH POSTED SATURDAY, 18 MARCH 2000 John Hutchison Raided At Gunpoint By Canadian Police -- CLICK HERE FOR UPDATE Reporting From Shreveport, Louisiana UNITED STATES

[CTRL] Test

2000-09-18 Thread Kris Millegan
test

[CTRL] CIA-DRUGS CONFERENCE, LOS ANGELES SEPT. 23,

2000-09-18 Thread Kris Millegan
-Caveat Lector- CIA-DRUGS CONFERENCE, LOS ANGELES SEPT. 23, TO FEATURE ARKANSAS TRAIN DEATH MOTHERS An all day CIA-Drugs Symposium featuring nationally known speakers will be held in Los Angeles on Saturday, September 23 at Patriot Hall, 1816 S. Figueroa Ave. in downtown Los Angeles. Doors

Re: [CTRL] NAZI POLICY TOWARD HOMOSEXUALS

2000-09-18 Thread ThePiedPiper
-Caveat Lector- tenebroust wrote: There have been several list members who have made the accusation that the majority of pedophiles are homosexual in sexual orientation. That assertion was challenged and never successfully defended (at leat to my recollection). I don't believe it was ever

[CTRL] Fw: Janet Poppins

2000-09-18 Thread Amelia
-Caveat Lector- I apologize if this takes an inordinate amount of band width. I do not know how that works. Sending it at a time the list seems relatively quiet. Amelia - Original Message - From: "Amelia Kay Edgeman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 17,

[CTRL] New Max Com; Soviets still run Russia! I thought all this time it was the tooth fairy!

2000-09-18 Thread Donald Park
-Caveat Lector- All I can say is: 'no shit'. How amazing! Did anyone really think that power changes hands easily, without bloodshed and a lot of it? Do Americans really think that our present crop of robber barons (ie, read elected and non elected government and corporate elite) will treat

[CTRL] Stephen Dunifer interview

2000-09-18 Thread nessie
-Caveat Lector- http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/27.html

[CTRL] Neo-Confederates Want Out

2000-09-18 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- Neo-confederates want out of US http://www.guardianunlimited.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,369585,00.html Special report: the US elections Duncan Campbell in Los Angeles Monday September 18, 2000 Tens of thousands of white southerners are reported to be joining organisations

[CTRL] Iran-Contra Wen Ho Lee

2000-09-18 Thread William Shannon
September 18, 2000 Iran-Contra Wen Ho Lee http://www.consortiumnews.com/091800a.html By Robert Parry Over the last few years, Republicans have trumpeted suspicions that Democratic fund-raising abuses in 1996 somehow helped communist China steal nuclear secrets jeopardizing U.S. national

[CTRL] George W.- Illuminati's Guy

2000-09-18 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- Secret Societal Satan by Clyde Lewis http://www.clydelewis.com/dis/societal/societal.html If the powers of secret societies are influential then the new President of the United States will be George Bush Jr. If major decisions are made by whispers in hushed tones in secret

[CTRL] Sample letter to the editor on the United Nations

2000-09-18 Thread William Bacon
-Caveat Lector- To the editor, On October 24, 2000 the United Nations (http://www.un.org) will be 55 years old. Most if not all media commentators will again be editorializing in favor of the United Nations. I disagree with this opinion because of the following reasons. In the years since

[CTRL] Test--Please Ignore

2000-09-18 Thread Robert F. Tatman
-Caveat Lector- Test

[CTRL] Fw: Ducan Long's 'That was no accident'

2000-09-18 Thread Donald Park
-Caveat Lector- Fw Post: That Was No Accident By Duncan Long There¹s an old story about a cowpoke who was walking alongside his horse one day when he noticed a movement out of the corner of his eye. He turned to see a rattlesnake coiled to strike. Thinking fast, the cowboy jumped out of the

[CTRL] Drug Czar Wants To 'Check' Chess Players For Drug Use

2000-09-18 Thread K
-Caveat Lector- http://www.norml.org Drug Czar Wants To 'Check' Chess Players For Drug Use Washington, DC: In the September issue of Chess Life magazine, drug czar Barry McCaffrey published an article in which he suggests that tournament chess players should be tested for drugs. In the

[CTRL] Another Test

2000-09-18 Thread Robert F. Tatman
-Caveat Lector- Ignore ignore ignore ignore.

[CTRL] Peru Gripped by Reports of Arrest of Spy Chief

2000-09-18 Thread Robert F. Tatman
-Caveat Lector- http://my.cnn.com/jbcl/cnews/Go?template=nmDethd=0sname=Worldsbc_id=26art_id =6031496uid=969325436280 Peru Gripped by Reports of Arrest of Spy Chief LIMA (Reuters) - Peru was gripped Monday by conflicting reports about whether its shadowy spy chief and most-feared man had been

Re: [CTRL] Look for the Union Label

2000-09-18 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Joshua 1) Unlike the pre-WWII unions, they did not want to do away with Capitalism. MJ Learn the difference between PRIVATE and government. Joshua 2) They served as buffers between corporations and their workers. Just as the FDA, FCC, NLRB, and

Re: [CTRL] NM: Debate Moderator Jim Lehrer is Our Guy, saidStephanopoulos

2000-09-18 Thread Nurev Ind Research
-Caveat Lector- All CFR. J2 === MICHAEL SPITZER wrote: With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff Monday September 18, 2000; 10:03 AM EDT Stephanopoulos: Debate Moderator Jim Lehrer is Our Guy Jim Lehrer, the PBS News Hour anchorman tapped by the so-called "bi-partisan" Presidential

[CTRL] (Fwd) [consider.net] www.fantasyworldorder.com launches

2000-09-18 Thread Alamaine
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- News release - September 18, 2000 = www.fantasyworldorder.com launches to ask: where do you stand in the globalisation debate? Globalisation is in the news again. As the IMF/World Bank annual summit

[CTRL] Spying on politics

2000-09-18 Thread K
-Caveat Lector- http://www.vny.com/cf/news/upidetail.cfm?QID=119088 Monday, 18 September 2000 21:34 (ET) Spying on politics By MARTIN WALKER WASHINGTON, Sept. 18 (UPI) -- The sudden eruption in Britain of a Cold War-era spy scandal, with an alleged East German 'mole' inside the top London

[CTRL] Back in the saddle again. And not a minute too soon.

2000-09-18 Thread Nurev Ind Research
-Caveat Lector- == Protest generation vows to grab reins of power as they prepare for battle of Prague Anti-globalisation campaigners attend training camp as bankers and ministers gather for IMF meeting By Justin Huggler in Dolni Slivno The

[CTRL] Corporations ubber alles: War good. Markets bad.

2000-09-18 Thread Nurev Ind Research
-Caveat Lector- Network members: Boeing sees less emphasis on commercial jet sales, and more emphasis on military production and serves in its future. Boeing is already the world's largest builder of military aircraft (and civillian aircraft), but is second to Lockheed Martin in over-all

[CTRL] [Fwd: Nader: Not Just Another Campaign Speech]

2000-09-18 Thread Nurev Ind Research
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Subject: Nader: Not Just Another Campaign Speech Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 23:47:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Michael Eisenscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: ? To: undisclosed-recipients:; From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [IPPN]

[CTRL] FBI still working on Bono / Kennedy skiing accidents.

2000-09-18 Thread Nurev Ind Research
-Caveat Lector- EXCLUSIVE: From the Nurev Wire Service After the deaths of Rep Sonny Bono and a member of the Kennedy family the FBI received the following cryptic message form an heretofore unknown terrorist group.

[CTRL] Need info on New York online archives

2000-09-18 Thread Yardbird
-Caveat Lector- Does anyone know of a site which would allow an archival search of New York City and area newspaper articles from the 1920's? None of the online archives I've found go back much beyond the '70's and I'm interested in articles on NYC crime/criminals between the years 1923-1933

[CTRL] Conjurella: Stranger than fiction

2000-09-18 Thread lloyd
-Caveat Lector- .. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed] Note: We store 100's of related "conspiracy posts" at: http://www.msen.com/~lloyd/oldprojects/recentmail.html From: "Doretta Wildes" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [CTRL] Keep the Homophobes Out of Our Discussion

2000-09-18 Thread Damian B. Cooper
-Caveat Lector- At 11:21 AM 9/17/00 -0700, nessie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a list devoted to conspiracy. Homosexuality is off topic and diversionary. Oh brother! If you don't understand that homosexuals and homosexuality are being manipulated by others with an agenda that has damn

Re: [CTRL] Abortion and the English Language

2000-09-18 Thread Damian B. Cooper
-Caveat Lector- At 10:56 AM 9/17/00 -0700, nessie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: Question: What, if any, crime has been committed? That depends on the wording of the local laws, and NOT on anyone's religious beliefs, particularly those of somebody else, not

[CTRL] Scientists I.D. Christ's fingerprint - Nonsense of Icke - the Christ Conspiracy

2000-09-18 Thread NSA
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "William Shannon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 5:18 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] (CTRL) OT: Scientists conclusively I.D. Christ'sfingerprint(fwd) In a message dated 9/16/00 1:23:35 PM Central Daylight

Re: [CTRL] Keep the Homophobes Out of Our Discussion

2000-09-18 Thread NSA
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "Damian B. Cooper" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Keep the Homophobes Out of Our Discussion -Caveat Lector- At 11:21 AM 9/17/00 -0700, nessie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[CTRL] WSJ: The Wen Ho Lee Diversion

2000-09-18 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
-Caveat Lector- Wall Street Journal REVIEW OUTLOOK The Wen Ho Lee Diversion The one thing the Clinton administration has shown the energy and skill to protect is itself. Tuesday, September 19, 2000 12:01 a.m. EDT The Wen Ho Lee case ended last week with the former weapons scientist

Re: [CTRL] The Gay Youth Suicide Myth

2000-09-18 Thread Amelia
-Caveat Lector- Yes, June, I am reading this and once again you are reading more into the post than is actually there. Aleisha is asking a question and then stating her preference. She stops sort of stating her reasons for this. It could be a number of things from the example set to concern

[CTRL] Who Reads The Major News Papers?

2000-09-18 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
-Caveat Lector- Who reads the news papers? By Anonymous The Wall Street Journalis read by the people who run the country. New York Times who think they run the country. Washington Postwho think they ought to run the

Re: [CTRL] The Jesuit Oath

2000-09-18 Thread nessie
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: In a few instances, Jesuit agents assassinated kings who had come to regard them as their most trustworthy advisers. Which kings?