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nessie wrote:
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There is no freedom of the press. The press is a corporate tool and so is
the government.
And they're the ones telling us guns are bad. Hmmmn.
There are actually many people who come to their conclusions on their
own.
J2
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[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
There are actually many people who come to their conclusions on their
own.
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just like josh here
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Joshua and EMael:
Remember the promise to Teo.Be good boys and maintain the dignity
and decorum of the CTRL.
Meanwhile, Moo Moo is going to the War Protest.
Moo Moo Jones
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Joshua2 Wrote:
Your a liar.
And an idiot.
Only to an idiot.
A hard working idiot.
Well J2..your argument has just blown me out of the water.
Such eloquence
OK. So you are saying that the choice should be for gun owners to
either
get rid of their guns, or commit
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There is no freedom of the press. The press is a corporate tool and so is
the government.
And they're the ones telling us guns are bad. Hmmmn.
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Sorry Joshua2 but your blowing smoke.
People with guns don't kill people.
I see people everyday who are in posession of guns and I
haven't been killed once.
With regard to the hypothetical prison mentioned below...
There are so few murders probably because of the fact that the
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From: Amelia Edgeman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Ric Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Gary Amedee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lets get rid of the people! Most of us are arseholes anyway
and wouldn't it be a lovely planet without people everywhere.
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Nope, not in America. Of course we can't say for sure, but that's where my
bet is.
Yep, people with guns of course occasionally kill people. I'm excluding from
the equation all forms of government -- in which you seem to have so much
inherent faith -- whose guns have always
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Gary Amedee wrote:
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Sorry Joshua2 but your blowing smoke.
People with guns don't kill people.
Your a liar.
I see people everyday who are in posession of guns and I
haven't been killed once.
And an idiot.
With regard to the hypothetical prison
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"Stopforth, Jamie" wrote:
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I've heard from numerous people that shootings and crime is becoming a
trend due to the media it gets. Therefore it's done to gain attention...
How about removing the 1st amendment thus taking away the freedom of the
press so
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Teo One Thousand wrote:
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In a message dated 6/2/99 6:26:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well let's assume that we are looking
at an
high security prison for the worst possible offenders. Where are the
gun
deaths? Where
3, 1999 11:43 PM
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Gary Amedee wrote:
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Sorry Joshua2 but your blowing smoke.
People with guns don't kill people.
Your a liar.
I see people everyday who are in posession of guns and I
have
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In a message dated 6/2/99 6:26:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well let's assume that we are looking
at an
high security prison for the worst possible offenders. Where are the
gun
deaths? Where are the accidental shootings? Prisoners who want to
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In fact, a number of books, one by a professor at Florida State
University, has proven your
statement incorrect. There is more than ample proof that the death rate
goes up when gun ownership
Read More Guns, Less Crime by John R. Lott Jr. ISBN 0-226-49363-6. It'll
open your
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In a message dated 6/1/99 7:03:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
We have. The majority of American prisoners are nonviolent offenders (i.e.
drug users).
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From: nurev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Look at a prison.
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nessie wrote:
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The fact is that people with guns kill, and when you take them away, the
death rate drops like a rock.
You SAY it's a fact, but you cite no proof.
Look at a prison.
J2
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nessie wrote:
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Before we ban guns all together
It is physically impossible to ban guns. The genii is out of the bottle.
All the laws in the world can't put it back in.
Not a problem at all.
What we must do is create a world in which the use of guns,
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The fact is that people with guns kill, and when you take them away, the
death rate drops like a rock.
You SAY it's a fact, but you cite no proof.
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nessie wrote:
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The fact is that people with guns kill, and when you take them away, the
death rate drops like a rock.
You SAY it's a fact, but you cite no proof.
In fact, a number of books, one by a professor at Florida State University, has
proven your
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remember the "Luby's" massacre a few years ago?? one of the women survivors
had been carrying till THAT DAY--she watched her mom and dad get shot in the
head. if she had been carrying, that WOULD NOT have happened
liz
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Gavin Phillips wrote:
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According to the future that you seem to relish Nurev is a total gun ban
Yes that's right. And voluntary compliance from law abiding citizens.
It
doesn't need to be permanent either. But I want to see what happens
when
guns are out of
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Not at all. Violence is failure. The only justification for violence
iself defense. Real self defense not your paranoid fantasies of a
future that may or may not happen.
Gavin;
That's right. Violene is failure. Unfortunately it will never be
erradicated,
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The highest percentage of shootings are drug related.
Actually, the highest percentage of shootings are drug MONEY related. End
drug prohabition and the profit motive ceases to be a factor in drug use,
the drug user's prime reason to recruit evaporates, as does the vast
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In a message dated 5/25/99 12:59:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
The highest percentage of shootings are drug related.
Actually, the highest percentage of shootings are drug MONEY related. End
drug prohabition and the profit motive ceases to be a
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Before we ban guns all together
It is physically impossible to ban guns. The genii is out of the bottle.
All the laws in the world can't put it back in.
What we must do is create a world in which the use of guns, or of any
other tool, to oppress others in any way is
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