[CTRL] US shuts down Yugoslav Internet

1999-05-13 Thread David Crockett Williams

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From: Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: US shuts down Yugoslav Internet
Date: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 8:31 PM

The following message is ominous for all who believe in the free
exchange of information and ideas. NATO has rationalized the murder of
journalists and the destruction of transmitting facilities by claiming
they were disseminating "official propaganda." Now they want to shut
down the only independent source of news and information between
Yugoslavia and the outside world.  As with the systematic destruction of
Yugoslavia's infrastructure, this is an attack not on the military but
on all the people.  Now only NATO's version of the war will be
available. How nice. --MC
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US shuts down Yugoslav Internet

Dear sirs,

We have reliable information that the US Government ordered
Loral Orion company to shut down its satellite feeds for
Internet customers in Yugoslavia.

This action might be taken as soon as later tonight or tomorrow
(May 12 or 13, 1999).

This is a flagrant violation of commercial contracts with
Yugoslav ISPs, as well as an attack on freedom of the Internet.

A Web site in protest of these actions should be up shortly. We
will supply you with the URL. In the meantime, please be so kind
to inform as many people as possible about this tragic event for
the Internet community in Yugoslavia and Europe.

Kind regards,
BeoNET
Belgrade, Yugoslavia

http://www.beonet.yu
.yuP

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[CTRL] NATO to Target Nuclear Reactor, US orders Yugo Internet crashed [2 fwd posts]

1999-05-13 Thread David Crockett Williams

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Subject: URGENT!  VINCA Institute of Nuclear Sciences to be BOMBED?!
Date: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 2:41 PM

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Fwd From: Maria-Raimonda USAI [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 17:20:56 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Real disaster threat(fwd)

Hello, I have been forwarded this, apparently sent by P.R. Adzic, Belgrade.
I replied to both email addresses ( the one from CERN in Switzerland and
the one from Belgrade) and didn't get a reply. They ask to send this to as
many people as possible to avoid the disaster. Perheaps it  would  be
useful to inform the press, anybody knows how/who?

Raimonda Usai

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 Real disaster threat

 Dear friends,

 Something which we feared that might happen, seems very likely.
 I can confirm now we expect that NATO planes will bomb VINCA
 Institute. In the passed several days we received this warning,
 but today we got this information as serious threat from the
 highest authorities.

 Our reactor is not working for more than 15 years, but the
 significant amount of 235-U enriched and unused fuel is still
 in its interior. Highly radioactive material for everyday
 activities is also located in several research laboratories.
 I fear that a big disaster may occur. In the worst case, no
 Balkan and even European country would be safe. Not to mention
 ecological catastrophe. I still hope that this disaster could
 be avoided, unless we are already late.

 I would appreciate if you succeed in informing as many people
 as possible on the eventual tragedy. God bless you.

 P.R. Adzic
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 P.R. Adzic   Tel:(381 11)
 444-7965/455-041
 VINCA Institute of Nuclear Sciences  Fax:(381 11)
 455-041
 Laboratory of Physics (010)
 P.O. Box 522, 11001 Belgrade
 E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Yugoslavia
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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  RELATED AREAS
Thessaloniki 8-12 July 1997
 E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 tel: +30-31-998031
 fax: +30-31-998128
 

From: Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: US shuts down Yugoslav Internet
Date: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 8:31 PM

The following message is ominous for all who believe in the free
exchange of information and ideas. NATO has rationalized the murder of
journalists and the destruction of transmitting facilities by claiming
they were disseminating "official propaganda." Now they want to shut
down the only independent source of news and information between
Yugoslavia and the outside world.  As with the systematic destruction of
Yugoslavia's infrastructure, this is an attack not on the military but
on all the people.  Now only NATO's version of the war will be
available. How nice. --MC
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US shuts down Yugoslav Internet

Dear sirs,

We have reliable information that the US Government ordered
Loral Orion company to shut down its satellite feeds for
Internet customers in Yugoslavia.

This action might be taken as soon as later tonight or tomorrow
(May 12 or 13, 1999).

This is a flagrant violation of commercial contracts with
Yugoslav ISPs, as well as an attack on freedom of the Internet.

A Web site in protest of these actions should be up shortly. We
will supply you with the URL. In the meantime, please be so kind
to inform as many people as possible about this tragic event for
the Internet community in Yugoslavia and Europe.

Kind regards,
BeoNET
Belgrade, Yugoslavia

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[CTRL] Yeltsin's Impeachment

1999-05-13 Thread Das GOAT

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Yeltsin Impeachment Hearings Begin

By BARRY RENFREW
.c The Associated Press

MOSCOW (AP) -- Russian lawmakers began impeachment hearings today to remove
Boris Yeltsin, with political leaders saying the odds against the president
had soared after his surprise decision to fire Russia's popular prime
minister.

Some party leaders predicted a vote on impeachment could come as early as
Friday as the lower chamber of parliament, the State Duma, began hearing
reports on five impeachment charges against Yeltsin. Lawmakers, including
many centrists who had backed Yeltsin in the past, were furious over his
dismissal of Prime Minister Yevgeny Primakov and the Cabinet on Wednesday.

``There is no doubt that after yesterday's decision by the president the
chance of getting 300 votes in favor of at least one impeachment article is
high,'' said Alexander Shokhin, a deputy of the centrist Our Home is Russia
party.

The political maneuvering comes at a critical time for Russia. The government
has been engaged in difficult talks with international lenders about debt
restructuring, and it has been playing a pivotal role in attempting to
mediate a settlement between NATO and Yugoslavia.

About 500 Communists waving red flags demanded Yeltsin's removal today as
they demonstrated outside the parliament building in central Moscow. A
smaller group of pro-Yeltsin supporters rallied across the street.

The Communists, who mounted the impeachment proceedings, predicted easy
success. To impeach Yeltsin, 300 deputies or two-thirds of the chamber must
vote for one or more of the five impeachment charges.

``I think the impeachment motion shall pass,'' Communist leader Gennady
Zyuganov said today. ``I've spoken to faction leaders and even those who were
wavering are now saying that Yeltsin must go.''

If the Duma votes for impeachment, it will just be the first step. To remove
Yeltsin from office, the Duma motion must be supported by two-third
majorities of the Supreme and Constitutional courts and the upper chamber of
parliament -- which is still considered unlikely.

Lawmakers across the political spectrum said they did not expect the Duma to
approve Yeltsin's choice of Sergei Stepashin, the interior minister, to
replace Primakov. Stepashin was named acting prime minister while the Duma
considers his confirmation.

But two faction leaders called for the dissolution of the Duma and early
elections. The leader of Our Home is Russia, ex-premier Viktor Chernomyrdin,
said new elections should be held without political parties -- a strategy
that would hurt the Communists, who now dominate the chamber.

Nationalist leader Vladimir Zhirinovsky backed the call for early elections.

Duma elections, scheduled for December, could be held early, but the Russian
constitution is confusing on the issue. The constitution says the Duma can't
be dissolved if it votes for impeachment, but also mandates dissolution if it
rejects the president's choice for prime minister three times.

The president faces five counts of impeachment: instigating the 1991 Soviet
collapse, improperly using force against hard-line lawmakers in 1993,
launching the botched 1994-96 war in Chechnya, ruining Russia's military, and
waging genocide against Russians with economic policies that impoverished the
country.

The Chechnya charge is the one most likely to attract enough votes for
impeachment. In addition to the Communists and their allies, the Yabloko
faction of liberal economist Grigory Yavlinsky has said it would back the
impeachment charge accusing Yeltsin of initiating the disastrous war.

The 68-year-old Yeltsin has spent much of the last year out of the spotlight
with health problems. He also has a long history of firing aides, often
because they appear to be overshadowing him. Primakov's removal was the third
time in little more than a year that the president had ousted the government,
plunging the country into crisis.

However, this time Yeltsin seemed to have stepped closer to the brink than
ever before. By firing a prime minister who was widely credited with
returning stability to Russia -- and who had such good relations with the
Duma -- Yeltsin seemed to be provoking even fence-sitters to vote for
impeachment.

Primakov's popularity has soared in the past nine months, even as Yeltsin's
has sunk.

His action also stoked speculation that he would soon dissolve the Duma, as
he did in 1993. Then, the move led to a full-fledged crisis that ended with
Russian army tanks shelling the parliament building.

U.S. officials were cautious about commenting on Russia's turbulent political
landscape.

``On Kosovo, the Russians have played a constructive role, we expect that to
continue,'' White House spokesman Joe Lockhart said in Washington. ``We also
expect that Russia will continue on the path of economic reform.''

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[CTRL] Kathleen Willey Passes Polygraph Test

1999-05-13 Thread Das GOAT

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Clinton Accuser Passed Lie Detector

By PETE YOST
.c The Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Kathleen Willey says she's prepared to testify again if
her one-time friend Julie Hiatt Steele is retried for obstructing the
investigation of President Clinton.

Newly unsealed results of two FBI polygraph examinations of Mrs. Willey show
she failed a question on the first test regarding whether she provided
details of an alleged sexual advance by Clinton to her friend Ms. Steele. She
passed a later test in which she alleged that advance took place.

Mrs. Willey explained to the polygraph examiner last year that at first she
couldn't recall when she told Ms. Steele of the alleged 1993 incident with
Clinton, but was reminded of it later by Ms. Steele.

In a second lie detector test six days after the first one, Mrs. Willey was
found to be truthful after answering ``yes'' to two questions: ``Before 1997
did you tell Julie Steele that the president came on to you?'' and ``In 1993
did you tell Julie Steele about an encounter with the president in his
office?''

Ms. Steele says the first time she'd heard of an alleged Clinton-Willey
encounter was when Mrs. Willey asked her to lie about it to Newsweek magazine
in 1997.

Mrs. Willey was the chief prosecution witness for Independent Counsel Kenneth
Starr's office in last week's obstruction trial of Ms. Steele for allegedly
lying to two grand juries and the FBI in Starr's investigation of Clinton,
who denies any sexual encounter with Mrs. Willey. The jury deadlocked in Ms.
Steele's trial in Alexandria, Va.

Starr is considering whether to seek a new trial and has filed a court motion
asking for permission to approach jurors who are willing to be interviewed by
prosecutors about how they reached their views on Ms. Steele's guilt or
innocence.

``I'd like to see (the case) retried,'' Mrs. Willey said Wednesday night on
CNN's ``Larry King Live.'' Of her testimony last week, Mrs. Willey said,
``I've done it once. I guess I could do it again.''

Regarding Ms. Steele, Mrs. Willey said, ``I think she did try to obstruct
justice'' by telling Starr's investigators a story that contradicted part of
Mrs. Willey's account.

U.S. District Judge Claude Hilton unsealed the 1998 lie detector results this
week after a federal appeals court directed him to reconsider an earlier
denial. News organizations, including The Associated Press, went to court to
challenge the secrecy surrounding the documents.

On another part of the polygraph examinations in which she said Clinton made
a sexual advance, Mrs. Willey initially tested ``inconclusive'' but in the
second test was found to be truthful.

In the second test last Sept. 15 in the FBI's Washington field office, Mrs.
Willey was asked, ``In November 1993 did the president place his hand on your
breast?'' and ``Did President Clinton place your hand on his groin?'' Both
times, Mrs. Willey answered ``yes,'' a three-page FBI summary of the test
results stated.

``It is the opinion of this examiner that Ms. Willey was truthful'' when
responding to those two questions, the summary added.

The polygraph questions did not address whether Clinton's alleged advance
against Mrs. Willey was unwanted. Mrs. Willey says she rebuffed him.

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[CTRL] NATO Paralyzed by Chinese Embassy Bombing

1999-05-13 Thread Das GOAT

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No New Bombing in Belgrade

By ANNE GEARAN
.c The Associated Press


WASHINGTON (AP) -- NATO has not returned to bomb any targets in downtown
Belgrade since Friday night's mistaken hit on the Chinese Embassy, but a U.S.
military planner said the alliance has not sworn off the area.

``There's not a moratorium on any target that I know of,'' Maj. Gen. Charles
Wald said at a briefing Wednesday.

Wald, a strategic planner at the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said NATO hit a few
targets outlying Belgrade in recent days, and took advantage of the clear sky
to concentrate on hitting airfields, bridges and other targets in the
disputed Serbian province of Kosovo.

``I don't know of any order whatsoever from any place that I've heard of to
stop,'' Wald said.

Privately, U.S. officials say military planners are double- and
triple-checking maps and target lists in Belgrade, the Serbian capital and
base of Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic.

The attack on the Chinese Embassy killed three, strained U.S.-China relations
and embarrassed NATO and the United States. Defense Secretary William Cohen
and other officials blamed faulty maps and communications miscues for the
error.

At the time, NATO said the bombing came during the heaviest onslaught on
downtown Belgrade to date -- including bombing runs on government buildings
and a hotel NATO identified as the headquarters of the alleged war criminal
nicknamed Arkan.

NATO planes have flown close to 20,000 missions since the bombing began seven
weeks ago, of which more than 5,000 were ``strike,'' or actual bombing
sorties, Wald said. The alliance has dropped or fired about 10,000 bombs or
missiles, taken out 11 of Milosevic's 14 MiG-29s and dozens of tanks, Wald
said.

About two-thirds of allied air strikes are carried out by U.S. planes and
pilots.

Tuesday represented NATO's most successful day yet, Defense Secretary William
Cohen said at the same briefing, noting the allies flew more than 600
missions and struck nearly 70 targets.

Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Henry Shelton also was upbeat, but predicted
Serb military and police forces could withstand NATO bombing for ``quite some
time.''

Shelton noted that bombing has little effect on the sidearms and rifles
carried by individual Serb troops. Those weapons are the main instruments
used to evict Kosovo's ethnic Albanians from their homes in a two-month
campaign of ethnic terror, U.S. officials say.

NATO began bombing in March to force Milosevic to accept a peace deal for
Kosovo and allow refugees to return home.

Some 750,000 refugees crowd camps in bordering nations, while others are on
the move inside Kosovo.

``It is possible that a force like the one Milosevic is using for ethnic
cleansing and terror in Kosovo could hold out for quite some time,'' Shelton
said.

He would not be more specific, and insisted the alliance is prepared to
continue its intensified bombing for as long as necessary.

Also Wednesday, the Air Force and Navy activated another 2,173 reservists and
35 more aircraft for the Kosovo conflict. That brought to 4,409 the number of
reservists ordered to active duty so far.

Cohen said last week that a total of 5,035 reservists would be activated in
the current round, but the services have yet to pick some of the units to be
included, officials said.

Clinton has authorized the Pentagon to activate as many as 33,102 reservists.

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[CTRL] Will the Vatican Control Britain's State Religion ?

1999-05-13 Thread Das GOAT

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Anglican-Roman Panel Nears Agreement

LONDON (AP) -- Roman Catholics and Anglicans are closer to agreement on the
sensitive issue of authority in the church following the release of a new
statement from a joint commission, Archbishop of Canterbury George Carey said
Wednesday.

The report, called ``The Gift of Authority,'' was prepared by the
Anglican-Roman Catholic International Commission, which was created to study
issues dividing the Church of England and the Roman Catholic Church,
including the role of the papacy.

``No doubt there will be several issues ... which will be questioned,
critically evaluated and examined closely by both communions. This is how it
should be,'' Carey said.

``We are on a journey together and are close enough now to make further
progress based on significant theological agreements over the last 30
years.''

The Church of England broke away from Rome in the 16th-century Reformation,
and the monarch was made supreme governor of the church.

Dialogue on healing the breach began 30 years ago, but differences in some
cases have widened -- notably in the decision by the Church of England and
about half of the affiliated national churches to ordain women as priests.
Three Anglican bodies, in the United States, New Zealand and Canada, have
consecrated women bishops.

The Roman Catholic doctrine of papal infallibility, proclaimed in the 19th
century, also has posed difficulties.

On the question of the authority of the pope, the report says that the
``specific ministry of the universal primate ... is a gift to be received by
all the churches.''

The report said that authority does not reside only in the figure of the
universal primate.

``Since it is the faithfulness of the whole people of God which is at stake,
reception of teaching is integral to the process,'' the report said.

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[CTRL] Wall Street's Man in Washington

1999-05-13 Thread Das GOAT

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Rubin: A Wall Street Man

By SALLY BUZBEE
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WASHINGTON (AP) -- Robert Rubin spent much of his life speculating what the
stock market would do. He was good at it and made $100 million.

When he came to Washington, Rubin did essentially the same thing, speculating
that if President Clinton would balance the budget, he would be rewarded with
a booming economy.

To the surprise of many, that argument caught Clinton's ear.

And in the six years since, first as a top economic adviser and since 1995 as
the Treasury secretary, Rubin has gained much credit -- in a close
partnership with Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan -- for the policies
of spending restraint that kept interest rates low, Wall Street booming and
many Americans raking in money. That prosperity, in turn, helped smooth
Clinton's presidency.

Most Americans wouldn't recognize the slight, silver-haired man in his
investment banker pinstripes. But Clinton, many Republicans and especially
Wall Street have always given Rubin considerable credit.

``He generally did his best to keep the more liberal elements of the
Clinton-Gore administration in check,'' said House Speaker Dennis Hastert,
R-Ill.

Or, as Clinton put it as he announced Rubin's departure Wednesday,
``Everybody always believed that as long as he was secretary of the Treasury,
nothing bad could happen.''

Indeed, for years reporters and Wall Street brokers joked how the market
might sink the day Rubin finally left. He had long ``pined for private
life,'' Clinton noted. The secretary's wife, Judith, never moved to
Washington, and Rubin, 60, stayed in a hotel near the White House, flying
home to New York City every weekend.

The market did indeed drop more than 200 points on Wednesday morning but
quickly recovered, largely perhaps because Greenspan, 73, still has another
year as Federal Reserve chairman and may seek another four-year term after
that.

In addition, Rubin has spent much of the past year grooming his deputy,
former Harvard economist Lawrence Summers, sending him to Capitol Hill and
around the world when Asia's economy crashed.

But it was Rubin's close relationship with Greenspan that mattered most.
Rubin set an early and ironclad rule that no one in the Clinton
administration could publicly criticize the Fed chairman. As Greenspan and
the Fed pursued policies that led to low inflation, even Republicans were
pleased.

``Leaving Greenspan alone -- they do get credit for that,'' said GOP
presidential hopeful Steve Forbes, who otherwise bitterly criticized Rubin
and Summers' handling of the Asian crisis.

Republicans did fight with Rubin over the 1997 government shutdown and his
handling of the Asian crisis. But most considered him ``a strong and
sometimes solitary voice within the Clinton administration for open markets
and fiscal discipline,'' said House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Bill
Archer, R-Texas.

Rubin also frustrated some Democrats, especially early on, when Labor
Secretary Robert Reich and others complained the administration too heavily
favored business.

But Rep. Charles Rangel of New York, the top Democrat on the House Ways and
Means Committee, said Rubin often repaired frayed ties on Capitol Hill when
Clinton appeared to bypass Democrats and negotiate directly with the GOP on
taxes or welfare reform.

``Thank God during all these times we knew we had someone we could depend
on,'' Rangel said.

Rubin also pushed often for more private investment in inner city
neighborhoods, another position Clinton embraced. Yet that work never gained
him the attention that the economy's boom did.

It's unclear what he will do when he returns to private life. He is viewed as
a possible candidate for the Fed chairmanship if Greenspan should retire.

Rubin, who has two grown sons, put his own millions in a blind trust and
became a retired partner at Goldman, Sachs during his government years. He
entered an arrangement where he could neither profit nor suffer from the
firm's performance, Treasury officials say.

Last week, Goldman went public, selling millions of shares in an initial
public offering that gained $3.66 billion, the second-largest in history.
Some senior and retired partners made millions. Rubin, under his arrangement,
missed out.

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Angola

1999-05-13 Thread Taylor, John (JH)

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The USA (CIA) supported the FNLA not UNITA during the war of liberation.
The FNLA was also a marxist anti western group.

John

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[CTRL] More Luciferian hoofprints in Oklahoma

1999-05-13 Thread Kris Millegan

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Subject: More Luciferian hoofprints in Oklahoma
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kansan1225)
Date: Wed, May 12, 1999 1:32 PM
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  A friend from Oklahoma referred me to the Masonic
Temple in Guthrie, OK.  He meant the Masonic Scottish
Rite Temple there.

  I have driven by this building and it is quite large and
impressive, although a bit gloomy.  It probably is the largest
building in Guthrie.  Guthrie was the first capital of
Oklahoma and is the seat of the state headquarters of many
secret societies, such as the Masonic Grand Lodge of OK (a
different building), the International Order of Foresters (an
American, domesticated, garden-variety version of
Mazzini's formidable Carbonari), the Order of Odd Fellows,
etc.

  As I have written previously, the number 77 has marked
the Oklahoma City bombing.  This number is the mark of
the seventy-seven-fold revenge of Lamech, the father of
Tubal-Cain, a clandestine Luciferian Masonic (CLuM) hero.
Guthrie, OK, is situated along U.S. Highway 77, a north-
south road.  The main east-west road through Guthrie is
State Highway 33.  The 33rd degree, of course, is the
highest Masonic Scottish Rite degree.

  Another intersection of the numbers 77 and 33 occurs at
Dallas, TX, the site of the JFK human sacrifice.  Dallas is
just south of the northern 33rd geographic latitude degree
and U.S. Highway 77 passes right by Dealey Plaza.

  Washington, D.C., the capital of New Atlantis, a.k.a.
the U.S.A., is officially located along the geographic
meridian W 77 degrees, 00 minutes, and 33 seconds,
another incidence of these CLuM coordinates, 77 and 33.

  For those who doubt the involvement of CLuMs in
highway number designations, etc., consider this:
Charleston, SC, the first site of the Masonic Scottish
Rite in the U.S., is ringed by U.S. Interstate Highway
I-526.  Of course, 5 + 2 + 6 = 13, the most Masonically
correct number.





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[CTRL] BritisUK Spy Site Terminated

1999-05-13 Thread Kris Millegan

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Britain Shuts Down Spy Sites
by Polly Sprenger

3:00 a.m.  12.May.99.PDT
GeoCities has yanked the Web site of a former spy who has repeatedly
threatened to expose the underbelly of British espionage.
Richard Tomlinson has had a rocky couple of years. He was sacked by a
British intelligence agency in 1995 and jailed in 1997 for breaking
England's Official Secrecy Act. After his release, Tomlinson jetted around
the globe, staying out of reach of the British government until he landed in
Geneva.





See also: Spying on the Spies




There, Tomlinson used the Internet to launch a personal crusade against what
he considers to be the gross inadequacies and illegal activities of MI6,
England's international intelligence arm. Now, the British government has
again silenced the ex-spy with an injunction to keep him from publishing
sensitive information on the Internet.

Tomlinson had maintained a Web site hosted by IP worldcom in Lausanne,
Switzerland. On 30 April, the Treasury Solicitor's office obtained an order
against Tomlinson, who removed the site rather than risk a violation,
according to officials in the Treasury Solicitor's office.

"The injunction was granted following threats from Tomlinson to publish
information on the Internet," said a representative of the Treasury
Solicitor's office. "The injunction prevents Tomlinson from presenting
information on the Internet or any other means."

IP worldcom did not respond to interview requests in time for this article.

A week later, Tomlinson launched another site, this time at California-based
GeoCities, where he promised to post a map of all the MI6 offices worldwide.

Again, the British government was hot on his heels.

Last week, attorneys for the Crown showed GeoCities the Swiss injunction.
And GeoCities' legal department brought down the curtain on Tomlinson's
site.

"We had a notification from the [British government] attorney that we had a
Web site that appeared to violate our content guidelines," said Ed Pierce,
vice president of legal affairs at GeoCities.

Pierce and his investigative teams determined that Tomlinson was in
violation of the user agreement, which contains three broad principles -- no
pornography, no hate speech, and no illegal activities -- and terminated the
site.

Pierce was unsure what, if any, notification GeoCities sent to Tomlinson,
but he said that the former spy would be able to defend the right to publish
his site if he chose. Most users found to be in violation of the user
agreement never come forward to defend themselves, Pierce added.

"What I don't understand is how it was possible for this to take place in
the US without there being a court order," said John Wadham, director of the
London civil rights group Liberty, and Tomlinson's solicitor. "There is the
issue of due process. Without this due process I can't understand how he can
be banned from using that Web site."

But the British government has long been wary of Tomlinson, who has tried
several times in the past few years to draw attention to himself and the
alleged crimes of MI6.

In November 1997, Tomlinson was charged with violating the Official Secrecy
Act as he shopped his memoirs around in the publishing world.

Tomlinson tried to stay an arrest by allegedly telling officials that he had
placed an encoded manuscript on two computers somewhere in the world. If
Tomlinson didn't signal each machine once a week, the manuscript would
automatically be published online. But the manuscript never appeared, and
Tomlinson was jailed for four months.

He reappeared in the media in 1998. Nearly a year after the crash of the car
carrying Princess Diana and Dodi Fayed, Tomlinson told the French judge
investigating the case that driver Henri Paul had worked for British
intelligence.

The French government later told the media that Tomlinson's claims were
unfounded, and that the ex-spy had approached the judge on his own.

On 11 September 1998, Tomlinson notified his solicitor that he had evidence
that MI6 had tried to assassinate Slobodan Milosevic. He claimed that in the
summer of 1992, a colleague had showed him an MI6 proposal to kill
Milosevic.

"I ask you to investigate this matter fully," Tomlinson wrote. "I believe
that legal action should be taken ... to show other MI6 officers that they
should not assume that they can murder and carry out other illegal acts with
impunity."

Tomlinson was reportedly on the passenger list but missed being on SwissAir
flight 111 that plunged into icy waters off Nova Scotia on 2 

Re: [CTRL] [Re: [SC] Skeptic News - Wednesday #3]

1999-05-13 Thread Robert Tatman

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Cathy Laughlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  # GM pollen warning to organic farmers. (BBC) A UK gov't report will say
  that pollen from genetically-modified crops can spread much further than
  thought, that some contamination of organic crops by GM plants is inevi-
  table. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_341000/341818.stm

 Chevy workers are notorious for their "pollination" behaviors!  Particularly
the
 three to eleven shift.  You do NOT want to be in a bar within a three-block
 radius of a GM plant anytime between the hours of 11:15 pm and 4:15 a.m.
 Pollination and subsequent contamination of ovum are an inevitable
consequence.


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[CTRL] Britain suppresses Kurdish TV station

1999-05-13 Thread Kris Millegan

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A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:522271"Britain suppresses Kurdish TV
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Britain suppresses Kurdish TV station


Via NY Transfer News Collective * All the News that Doesn't Fit

source: Green Left Weekly #359 5/5/99


Britain suppresses Kurdish TV station
By Norm Dixon

Britain's Independent Television Commission (ITC) on April 23 revoked the
licence of Med TV, the satellite television station watched by millions of
Kurds in Kurdistan, Turkey, the Middle East and Europe. ``The decision is
undoubtedly political and is ins pired by the UK government's relationship
with Turkey, its NATO ally'', Med TV said.

Med TV operates out of Britain and produces programs in Belgium. Since 1995,
its Kurdish- and Turkish-language programs (and weekly English and Arabic
programs) have been beamed to an estimated 10-15 million people. The station
is funded by contributions from the Kurdish exile community in Europe.

Turkish and European governments have attempted to shut down or restrict the
station on many occasions because of the key role it plays in informing and
organising Kurds. Kurds face heavy penalties in Turkey if they are
discovered watching Med TV.

The ITC suspended Med TV's licence for 21 days on March 22 following the
station's screening of live interviews in which Kurdish leaders urged people
to take action against the Turkish government's abduction of Kurdistan
Workers Party (PKK) leader Abdulla h Ocalan. The ITC's decision was based on
a transcript supplied by the Turkish government in which a Kurdish rebel
allegedly stated: ``Our patriotic masses in Europe should not cross the
boundaries of democratic measures ... The Kurdish people in Turkey, however,
should adopt all kinds of fighting methods without losing any time.''

In a breathtaking example of double standards, the ITC claimed on April 23
that the station's broadcasts contained ``biased reporting ... incitement to
crime and a lack of impartiality''. Yet, Britain's state and privately owned
TV networks churn out dail y US/NATO propaganda to justify the bombardment
of Serbia (and Iraq). News broadcasts are laden with the bellicose threats
of violence from Blair and Clinton.

While the British government cynically manipulates popular concern over the
plight of the oppressed people of Kosova in order to wage war, the British
media are silent about Ankara's vicious war against the Kurds. For the
British government's media regula tory body to demand that the Kurdish
people's only media outlet be ``unbiased'' is not only unjust but
contributes to the Turkish government's murderous campaign by ``ethnically
cleansing'' the air waves.

Turkey's Prime Minister Bulent Ecevit welcomed Med TV's closure and said it
 was the result of diplomatic pressure. Turkey's President Suleyman Demirel,
 in Washington for the NATO summit, said on April 26 that Turkey is ``trying
 to cut off the foreign ties of the PKK''.

Demirel said that Ankara is also pressing the German government to close
down the Germany-based Kurdish newspaper, Ozgur Politika, which has a large
readership in Europe and on the internet. ``Med TV was inciting murder, and
that newspaper is doing the sa me thing'', Demirel told the Anatolian News
Agency.

Letters protesting against the censorship of Med TV should be sent to the
ITC, 33 Foley St, London, W1P 7LP UK, or faxed to 0011 44 171 396 7800.

Meanwhile, the PKK has vowed to intensify its struggle for national
self-determination following the gains made by the far-right Nationalist
Action Party (MHP) in Turkey's April 18 general election. On April 21, MHP
spokesperson Ata Turkoglu vowed that hi s party's 129 MPs would vote for
Ocalan's execution if he is convicted by Turkey's juryless security court.
``We want this to happen as soon as possible after the verdict'', he said.

``It is much easier for the death penalty to be approved now'', warned one
of Ocalan's defence lawyers, Ahmet Zeki Ockoglu.


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Re: [CTRL] Will the Vatican Control Britain's State Religion ?

1999-05-13 Thread drbongo

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very bizare John.  now, where is the bob dylan connection again?


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Re: [CTRL] Why the Chinese embassy was bombed

1999-05-13 Thread Mike Menarry

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New to the list (environmental scientist)

Think along these lines for a moment.

Chinese Embassy, located in a european country which has close ties
(political  geographical) with former states of the USSR.

It moves.

The CIA are not aware that it has moved?

Call me cynical, but I highly doubt it!

Mike

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Re: [CTRL] Will the Vatican Control Britain's State Religion ?

1999-05-13 Thread John Wright

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Re:  Vatican/Church of England Rapproachment:
Go to my wonderful
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WHO DESTROYED THE BRITISH ROYAL FAMILY website

and
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for some scandalous TRUTH about
BOTH THE FILTHY VATICAN and the
most Filthy British Royal Family!

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Re: [CTRL] Urantia

1999-05-13 Thread Stopforth, Jamie

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Dear drbongo,

  I haven't spoken of the antichrist or "antichrists" for that matter.  Yes,
the NWO elitists do view us as "useless eaters" and probably not any more
important than animals.  I don't know who the antichrist is and don't
believe I ever will know ;).  From things I've seen, chemtrails, weather
modification, genetically engineered viruses etc... It's only obvious they
want to kill us off, a large number at least.  The mark will control us as
far as buying and selling according to a source I read rather often :), and
from some other sources I've read it appears it will also control our
travels, pretty much everything...  Has it begun?  It began a long time ago.
Since the fall of Alexander the Great, and even before then. Are they in
government?  Is that a serious question?   Now, off to do some useless
eating...

Jamie

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dear Jamie,
so the antichrists view us as "useless eaters"? is that like "cattle"?  is
what your saying is that the antichrists view us as no better than animals?
 who are the antichrists?  and do the antichrists want to kill all of us
and what world events indicate this?  will the biochip be used to control
us, and our numbers, and control our travel.  has it begun,  are they in
government today?  shall we know them by their works?


drbongo

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[CTRL] Bombing Error Explained

1999-05-13 Thread Kris Millegan

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A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:522538"Bombing Error Explained/A
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Subject: Bombing Error Explained
From: Ralph McGehee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, May 13, 1999 3:20 AM
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 China Embassy Bombing Error Explained

   Thinking they were picking a Yugoslav arms agency for attack,
intel analysts not only relied on outdated maps but also misread
them and, in a series of blunders, ended up mistakenly supplying
the coordinates of the Chinese embassy that was hit by American
bombs. Senior intel officials, said mistake began with "educated
guesses" by the CIA about the location of the target. The error
was compounded when the mis-identification went undetected because
government maps and electronic databases showed the Chinese Embassy
in another part of Belgrade, miles from the address it moved to
in 1996.

   To guard against similar failures, Defense Secretary Cohen announced
a tightening of procedures for updating U.S. defense maps and intel
records to account for changes in the location of foreign embassies
and other facilities of critical interest in a military op. Among the
new measures, will be a requirement to cross-check the location of
proposed targets with analysts who have firsthand knowledge of the sites.
[Comment: What a drastic innovation -- check targets with those
that know.]

   Cohen also said intel agencies will take unspecified measures to
"strengthen the internal mechanisms and the procedures for developing
target information," including "new procedures for updating maps."
Washington Post 5/11/99 A17.

   Further comment: What is needed is a reform of the procedures and
personnel of CIA -- its intelligence has failed for most of its 50
plus years -- so do not count on any significant or determinant
changes. The CIA is and always will be a covert action agency that
uses its intelligence to support policy. Its intelligence in cases
relating to policy merely provides cover for, and propagandizes its
operations. Unfortunately the CIA also thinks it is an intelligence
agency. The leadership of the House Permanent Select Committee on
Intelligence -- some who are ex-CIA operations officers -- revealed
the CIA must continue to have strong paramilitary and increased media
[disinformation] capabilities. Getting accurate intelligence
from this organization is like getting blood from a turnip.


Ralph McGehee
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[CTRL] Tomlinson's Geocities site disappeared at about 5:00PM

1999-05-13 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://jya.com/rfurl-dc.htm
A HREF="http://jya.com/rfurl-dc.htm"Request for URL of US MI5 Web Site/A
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12 May 1999. Tomlinson's Geocities site disappeared at about 5:00PM
US-CST, May 12, 1999; see mirror of one page of the site.

12 May 1999. Richard Tomlinson's still-active (at 13:30 US-EST)
Geocities Web site (without UKOSA stuff):
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Jardin/8767/MI6dir.htm

12 May 1999

We'd appreciate this notice being passed to Richard Tomlinson with our
offer to host his material. See JYA public keys.




Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 16:07:23 +0100
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Duncan Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: NEWSFLASH - can you put this up???

British government tries to censor Internet information about secret agents

On Wednesday afternoon, the British government's press censorship
organisation distributed a warning to British media outlets not to tell
their audiences about a new US web site that lists British secret agents.

Here is the government order sent to media outlets in the UK at about 0700
EDT, Wednesday 12 May.

What is the secret URL that they are trying to censor news from.  Does
anyone know?

If you do, please tell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [and to [EMAIL PROTECTED]]  This is the
notice. Duncan Campbell



ADVISORY, not for publication:

We have been asked by the secretary of the Defence, Press and Broadcasting
Advisory Committee to publish the following:

FOR THE ATTENTION OF ALL EDITORS FROM SECRETARY DEFENCE, PRESS 
BROADCASTING ADVISORY COMMITTEE

I understand that a US-based website has today published on the internet a
list which identifies a large number of SIS (MI6) officers.

Defence Advisory Notice No 6 asks editors and programme makers to seek
advice before publishing such details unless they have been widely
disclosed or discussed as such action could put lives at risk.

Departmental officers are examining how the damage of this disclosure can
be minimised. While this is in progress, I would ask that editors do not
interpret the information in the website as being widely disclosed and do
not, therefore, publish the address or the content of the website without
first contacting the D Notice Secretary, Rear Admiral David Pulvertaft







[Added by JYA]  Thanks to MD.

See Wired story today:
http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/19620.html

Thanks to Sunder.

Source: http://www.theregister.co.uk/990510-18.html

Posted 10/05/99 1:05pm by Linda Harrison
Secret service eliminates ex-spy’s Web site


A former James Bond wannabe had his Web site shut down by MI6 last week
after threatening to expose some of Britain's top secrets.

Richard Tomlinson's site aimed to shake up and stir MI6 by identifying
its officers and site locations around the world, according to a report
in The Mail on Sunday. Tomlinson also warned that he would publish a
book synopsis of his own MI6 career –- an act he was jailed for last
year.

Top government law officer Anthony Hammond, got the injunction banning
the site, which is based in Switzerland, where Tomlinson now lives.

The site, run by Lausanne ISP IPWorldcom, stated: "The objective of MI6
is to steal the secrets of other countries. Most of the secrets are
stolen by MI6 officers working abroad under cover as British diplomats."


The map of MI6 office sites was said to be "coming soon".

Another page showed Tomlinson wearing a silly hat and grinning in front
of the MI6 headquarters at Vauxhall Cross in London.

When the site was opened up it played the theme tune to Monty Python's
Flying Circus.

Last week, Tomlinson said he would appeal against the injunction.

Meanwhile, the cheeky Web wizard had switched the pages to a site run by
California-based Geocities.com. Again he was closed down after the Swiss
injunction was pointed out to Geocities.

According to Tomlinson, MI6 was breaking the law around the globe by its
activities, as well as playing with his liberty.

"They are trying to obstruct my freedom to travel and I have already
been banned from entering France, the USA and Australia," he told the
MoS.

"There would be no need to put up this Web site if they stopped messing
me about. I have already lost one job by being prevented from entering
France." ®






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Evolved from the British Secret Intelligence Service (SIS), which was
established in 1911 under its first director, Mansfield Cumming whose
initial "C" became the pseudonym for the head of the service (and later
satirized by Ian Fleming in his James Bond novels.) It operates much the
same way America's CIA functions, as an organization responsible for
gathering intelligence on a worldwide basis, conduction all manner of
espionage against enemies or potential enemies.

Also like the CIA, MI6 has no jurisdiction within Great Britain, the
responsibility of handling counterintelligence belongs to MI5. In
reality, MI6 of SIS dates back to Elizabethan times when Sir Francis
Walsingham became the first British spymaster, ferreting out plots,
conspiracies, and intrigues against his sovereign, Elizabeth.

Oddly, there is a polite pretense that MI6 does not really exist,
although this ultra-secret organization is supported by enormous
government funds, as much as 70 million pounds sterling a year. MI6 came
into its own under Cumming, a shrewd spymaster of the old school who
stopped at nothing in obtaining secrets vital to British security.
Cumming, who had a wooden leg, enjoyed startling his agents. On
occasion, to get the attention of an agent or aide, he would suddenly
drive a knife into his wooden leg to emphasize a point. Those not
knowing of his disability were dumbfounded at the sight of seeing the
knife protruding from Cumming's leg while he went on blithely talking.

The efficiency of MI6 is not easily evaluated because of the
super-secret operations it conducts. During World War I, MI6 or SIS
 proved to be very effective, uncovering and exposing a vast German spy
ring headed by Gustav Steinhauer and, for the most part, outwitting the
military spies throughout the world that were directed by German
spymaster Walther Nicolai. The organization's image was tarnished in
World War II when two of its agents were abducted at Venlo in the
Netherlands in 1939 through a clever Abwehr ruse conducted by SD
spymaster Walter Schellenberg.

So embarrassing was the Venlo Incident, as it came to be called, that
MI6's covert operations in Nazi-held European countries during World War
II were turned over to the newly-created SOE (Special Operations
Executive.) MI6 fared better during the Cold War but it saw many
setbacks when the KGB outwitted its schemes. One of its finest Cold War
coups was the way in which MI6 was able to obtain top secret documents
from Oleg Penkovsky, a colonel of Russian military intelligence at the
Center in Moscow.

MI6, however, bore the strain of compromise when, in 1963, one of its
much-valued agents, Kim Philby, defected to Russia before he was
publicly revealed to have been a double agent for the KGB, one who had,
with fellow traitors Donald Maclean and Guy Burgess, been stealing
British secrets for decades. Because of Philby's success in turning over
MI6 secrets to the Russians, the organization was thoroughly revamped.

As late as the 1980's, MI6 was under severe criticism, chiefly because
it was an old boys' club of uppercrust gentlemen who were recruited from
elitist colleges that had proven suspect as to their political
affiliations and patriotic fidelity. Labor politician Roy Hattersley
stated at that time: "The failure of the security services' present
organization stems largely from inbreeding, limited field of recruitment
and its traditional attitudes, and the complacency that comes from the
feeling that since its entire administration is cloaked in secrecy, its
organizational failures can always be swept under the carpet."

Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, however, did not yield to special
"outside controls" of MI6, such as the watchdog committees that oversee
CIA operations. Her policy was unbending: MI6 would answer only to the
Cabinet in order to preserve the services' integrity. MI6 did, however,
adopt a more liberal attitude in its recruitment, selecting young
applicants from a broader academic spectrum, emphasizing the need for
those fluent in foreign languages.

[ALSO SEE: Abwehr; Guy Burgess; Wilhelm Canaris; CIA; Mansfield Cumming;
William J. Donovan; Ian Fleming; Donald Maclean; MI5; Walther Nicolai;
OSS; Oleg Penkovsky; Kim Philby; Walter Schellenberg; SIS; SOE; Venlo
 Incident; Francis Walsingham ]

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[CTRL] FW: Release: war pork

1999-05-13 Thread Peter L. Sroufe

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"Thou Shall Not Steal!"
   because the Feds Don't Like the Competition!
--- Anonymous

"No blood for blow jobs"
   --a placard



Crooked politicians, illegal aliens, a country in moral decay . . . all of
that and more made Steve Vaus mad. So mad that he decided to write a song.

The song has become a rallying cry for "patriots" from coast to coast. It is
probably the most popular recording on talk radio. Listen and you'll
understand why.

The music video which was prominently featured on The Nashville Network and
Country Music Television is available at Steve Vaus' web site.  Crooked
politicians, illegal aliens, a country in moral decay . . . all of that and
more made Steve Vaus mad. So mad that he decided to write a song.

http://www.stevevaus.com/

Bard

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Senate's Kosovo budget bill is turned
into despicable pork-barrel bonanza

WASHINGTON, DC -- Quiz question: Which of the following items
are included in the U.S. Senate's "emergency spending legislation,"
designed to pay for the U.S. military action in Yugoslavia?

(a) Up to $1 billion in loan guarantees for steel companies,
and another $500 million in loans for oil and gas corporations.

(b) Foreign aid for hurricane victims in Latin America.

(c) A measure to remove a certain fish from the Endangered
Species list.

(d) A plan to let states spend $246 billion in tobacco funds on
programs totally unrelated to smoking.

(e) All of the above.

"If you guessed 'all of the above,' you're correct," said Steve
Dasbach, national director of the Libertarian Party. "Under the guise
of helping the military, opportunistic politicians are helping
themselves by funneling money to their favorite special interest
groups. As this bill proves, war isn't just another government program
to Senate Republicans and Democrats -- it's just another pork-barrel
government program."

The everything-but-the-kitchen-sink spending was grafted onto a
mammoth appropriations bill which was supposed to pay for continued
U.S.-led air strikes on Yugoslavia. The final details of the bill are
currently being hashed out by a House/Senate conference committee,
before being sent to the White House.

Among the items piled onto the Senate bill:

* Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV) is promoting $1 billion in
guaranteed loans that will benefit just three steel companies in the
USA -- one of which happens to be the Weirton Steel Company in West
Virginia.

* Senator Pete Domenici (R-NM), chairman of the Senate Budget
Committee, is trying to funnel $500 million to oil and gas interests in
the Southwest.

* Senator Richard Shelby (R-AL) is currying favor with the
fishing interests in his state by trying to remove the Alabama sturgeon
from the Endangered Species list.

* Senators Kent Conrad (D-ND) and Tom Harkin (D-IA) are pushing
for $4.3 billion for Midwestern farmers in the form of crop subsidies
and loan guarantees.

* President Clinton is demanding up to $1 billion in aid for
Central American victims of Hurricane Mitch, and another $100 million
in foreign aid for Jordan.

And, finally, "To show that partisanship really does stop at
the water's edge during wartime, Democrats and Republicans are working
overtime to use the war in Yugoslavia to promote another bipartisan
war: The war on tobacco," said Dasbach. Evidence:

* Senators Bob Graham (D-FL) and Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX)
are trying to ensure that states can spend the $246 billion extorted
from tobacco companies last fall on whatever they want -- instead of on
anti-smoking campaigns for young people, as originally promised.

"Whether or not you support the war in Yugoslavia -- and
Libertarians most certainly do not -- the way that politicians are
rushing to squeeze pork-spending projects into this appropriations bill
isn't just pathetic, it's contemptible," said Dasbach.

"In fact, it's difficult to decide which is more despicable:
Bill Clinton's military attack on innocent Yugoslavian civilians, or
the U.S. 

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[CTRL] Fwd: Fw: OAS 1962 Gen Salan and Gen Jouhaud

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Date: Thursday, May 13, 1999 6:32 AM
Subject: Re: OAS 1962 Gen Salan and Gen Jouhaud


The key to discovering the answer to who killed John and Robert Kennedy is
history.  Since I became interested in this research in 1993, I started by
reading the assassination books, the most revealing of which I believe was
Dick Russell's The Man Who Knew Too Much.  It was a footnote on page 792 of
his tome which motivated me to go further back into history to find the
roots of the conspiracy.  Footnote 14 to chapter 27 of his book:

"Crichton background:  The 1963 Dallas City telephone directory lists
Crichton as president of Nafco Oil  Gas, Inc.  A short article on Page 26A
of the Dallas Morning News (February 16, 1975) identifies him as a
'millionaire oilman.'  Researcher Peter Dale Scott's unpublished 1971 'The
Dallas Conspiracy,' pp. III-16-17, notes that Crichton until 1962 'was also
a Vice-President of the Empire Trust Company, a firm whose leading
shareholders, the inter-related families of Loeb, Lehman and Bronfman, are
said by Stephen Birmingham to have maintained "something very like a
private
CIA...around the world" to protect their other investments such as in Cuba,
in Guatemala, and in General Dynamics.'  One of Empire Trust's directors
was, Scott notes, Lewis W. MacNaughton--the employer of George Bouhe, one
of
the first members of Dallas's Russian community to meet Oswald."

Since reading that, I have learned that Empire Trust was associated in many
real estate investments with Old Colony Trust of Boston, and that both of
them were investors in the old United Fruit Company that owned hundreds of
thousands of acres of land in Guatemala.  It also owned a great deal of
land
in Cuba which was expropriated by Castro.
These investments date back to at least the turn of the 20th century and
probably before.  Long before the CIA and NATO were dreamt of.  The
government intelligence agencies merely became an extension of an
intelligence machine that had already been created, and the loyalties of
the
agents never changed.

Linda Minor
Linda Minor wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]...
I believe the Texas oilmen, bankers and other businessmen referred to in
the
Torbitt Document as being the financiers of the assassination were acting
on
behalf of Scottish land barons and distillers who had, many years before,
invested their capital in Texas in the hope of creating an empire before
Texas became a state.  I believe tha H.L. Hunt's family of bankers in East
Texas, Clint Murchison's family, Sid Richardson's, as well as George and
Herman Brown's father and uncles and their mother's family as well, were
connected to these wealthy European investors.

One clue to who these investors were, and the other assets they owned
comes
from the fact that, shortly after the Kennedy assassination, a Houston
bank
headed by a man who was then chairman of Conoco merged with a Swiss bank
headed by a man named J.F. Paravicini.  Other investors included Boeing,
Seagrams, a London subsidiary of Brown  Root and the Schlesinger
Organization of London and Johannesburg.  One of the directors was W.S.
Farish III and another was J. Hugh Liedtke (both of whom were closely tied
to George Bush who was also living in Houston at the time).  Not long
after
the merger, Paravacini was caught helping Billy Mellon Hitchcock launder
the
proceeds from the sale of LSD [see Martin A. Lee and Bruce Shlain's Acid
Dreams:  The CIA, LSD and the Sixties Rebellion; Pete Brewton, The Mafia,
the CIA and George Bush].

Linda Minor



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Linda Minor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 I check Dope, Inc.'s source on the information you are referring to.
They
 cited the Torbitt Document.

Linda: In your opinion, who was directly involved in plots to kill
DeGaulle,
(DIA, NATO, FBI, CIA, Mossad, etc), and was also connected to the plot
in
the killing of JFK.

Thanks...jko



Just in case Linda doesn't answer I'll add my opinion.  I have quite a
bit of research on this although it probably includes factoids.
However,
there is no link to the DIA.  NATO is mentioned in that one of the plots
against DeGaulle included having a French NATO officer serving in West
Germany use his armored brigade to surround Paris.  There is no evidence
of actual NATO involvement.
The "FBI" allegation is a sham.
The CIA was contacted by the OAS in the spring of 1963 in Madrid and
offered to help arrange for DeGaulle to meet an accident.  The CIA
conveyed a refusal to the offer.  I checked to see if the refusal wasn't
just made for plausible deniability and that CIA actually did give help.
I reached a mixed conclusion on that one.  The CIA's refusal to accept
the offer was genuine.  However, I noted the 

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LATEST UPDATE: Clinton is now in VIOLATION OF WAR POWERS RESOLUTION!
This MAJOR CRIME is an IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE.
http://www.conservativenews.org/Opinion/archive/OPI19990513b.html


So far, the U.S. nightly PROPAGANDA BULLETINS (broadcast TV)
has been SILENT about this.  The biggest disasterous loss of nuclear
secrets in HISTORY is being ignored, in favor of the terror-bombing
of Yugoslavia and the now the Communist Chinese EMBASSY !!!

Of course, once they DO start mentioning this disaster, which jeopardizes
every U.S. nuclear weapon, CLINTONS TREASONOUS
ACTIONS ALLOWING CHINA TO STEAL THE SECRETS
WILL BECOME PUBLIC.  Then his position as president will
become untenable.



Congress moves to cut off Chinese access to U.S. nuclear labs

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/April1999/042899/nuclearlabs042899.htm

Capital Hill Blue article - exerpt:

   The CIA also found the Clinton White House assisted the Chinese
   efforts by approving transfer of sensitive technology to the country over
   the objections of intelligence experts. Those transfers often benefitted
   campaign contributors to Clinton's Presidential campaign funds.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_smith/19990511_xcsof_china_and_.shtml

 The PLA purchase of U.S. computer power was
  the perfect cap to Chinese nuclear espionage
  operations against America. The computers
  that power U.S. atomic weapon labs have evil
  twins inside Red China. The PLA
  super-computers can run American nuclear
  bomb design software and codes with little or
  no modification. They are identical to the
  computers at U.S. weapons labs right down to
  the vendor support.


THIS EXPLAINS THE BOMBING OF YUGOSLAVIA.

A DESPERATE ATTEMPT TO DIVERT ATTENTION FROM HIS
T  R  E  A  S  O  N,  NO MATTER HOW MUCH WORSE THE BOMBING
WOULD MAKE THE BALKAN SITUATION (which is EXACTLY what
military advisors said would happen).

The situation is worse than anything described in the book
YEAR OF THE RAT, which already indicates CLINTON TREASON.

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Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 4:03 AM
Subject: COX REPORT BOMBSHELL (DRUDGE)

COX REPORT BOMBSHELL: UNCLASSIFIED VERSION SAYS CHINA
STOLE 'CROWN JEWELS OF OUR NUCLEAR ARSENAL'

Coming in a few weeks, The Cox Report. Running about 700 pages, with 12
chapters and 38 recommendations, the findings of a high-profile
congressional committee's investigation into Chinese spying in America
concludes not only that China stole "the crown jewels of our nuclear
arsenal" during the last 20 years but that the espionage "continues to this
very day."

NY TIMES reporter Jeff Gerth has been fed and moves an exclusive in
Wednesday editions:

"A scientist suspected of spying for China improperly transferred huge
amounts of secret data from a computer system at a government laboratory,
compromising virtually every nuclear weapon in the United States arsenal."

Gerth breaks: "The data -- millions of lines of computer code that
approximate how this country's atomic warheads work -- were downloaded from
a computer system at the Los Alamos, N.M., weapons lab that is open only to
those with top-level security clearances... Lee then transferred the files
to a widely accessible computer network at the lab, where they were stored
under other file names."

President Clinton was first told of the development on March 31... MORE

Cox tells Wednesday's LOS ANGELES TIMES that theft of secrets from America's
nuclear weapons laboratories relied on a network of Chinese agents
specifically tasked to help China's military modernization efforts.

"It involves many people, many of whom we have yet to meet," Cox tells the
paper.

Cox says that visits "by hundreds of Chinese scientists and other officials
to the Los Alamos National Laboratory and other nuclear weapons facilities
each year provided a cover for Chinese spy handlers."

But in addition to gathering sensitive information at Los Alamos, spies
working for the People's Republic of China obtained classified U.S. nuclear
weapons information at four other American laboratories, reports Rebecca
Carr in fresh editions of the ATLANTA JOURNAL-CONSTITUTION. Cox declined to
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May 13, 1999

Angolan War Intensifies -- Backed by Whom?

Summary:

After the Angolan government's attempt last December to finally
eradicate the rebel UNITA army went horribly awry, UNITA this
month launched its own, somewhat more effective offensive.  In
the absence of foreign intervention, it is likely that UNITA's
campaign would eventually peter out as well.  Yet as foreign
powers publicly stand back and condemn UNITA and the Angolan
conflict in general, there is reason to believe that, behind the
scenes, they are playing an active role in the battle -- one not
necessarily in line with their declarations.

Analysis:

Angola's UNITA rebels, who launched a broad offensive on May 4,
claimed on May 12 that they were closing in on the capital,
Luanda, and key oil installations at Soyo to the north -- claims
apparently validated by flows of refugees from the areas in
question.  Earlier this month UNITA cut power to the capital.
UNITA Secretary General Paulo Lukamba Gato claimed that the
rebels now hold some 70 percent of the country, and control the
entire border with the Democratic Republic of the Congo and
Zambia, as well as three quarters of the border with Namibia.
UNITA has called the 1994 Lusaka Protocol, which was to have
ended Angola's civil war, effectively dead, and has vowed to
carry on the fight until Luanda returns to the negotiating table.
The Angolan government steadfastly refuses to negotiate with the
rebels.

The UNITA offensive follows a failed Angolan Army (FAA) campaign
launched last December in hopes of capturing the two main UNITA
strongholds of Bailundo and Andulo and of eradicating the rebel
army.  UNITA decisively repelled four offensives against the
towns, reportedly capturing large amounts of FAA heavy equipment,
small arms, and ammunition in the process.  Since then, the FAA
has acknowledged the balance of forces stands in UNITA's favor,
and government forces have been limited to "active defense."
Angola has been forced to reinstate forced conscription and has
withdrawn forces from Congo Brazzaville and the Democratic
Government of the Congo (DRC), where they were backing both
governments against rebels allied with UNITA.

The FAA claims it is preparing for a dry season offensive later
this month, where it can put its combined arms tactics to good
use against the rebels.  But reports indicate that UNITA now has
a substantial number of surface to air missiles, which it has
already successfully used several times, and this should blunt
the government's air campaign.  Additionally, UNITA has obtained
a large number of tanks and armored fighting vehicles and, with
the help of South African mercenary instructors, has reportedly
developed some prowess in conventional maneuver warfare.  UNITA
has also acquired a substantial air force of its own, including
MiG-23 fighter bombers and Mi-24 attack helicopters, reportedly
from Ukraine through a European intermediary.  The aircraft
reportedly come with Ukrainian mercenary pilots.

In what is effectively the sum total of international action on
the war in Angola, the UN Security Council on May 7 called for
tightened sanctions on UNITA and created two special commissions
to study the war, particularly sanctions-busting by UNITA.  The
UN, the OAU, and other international organizations have blamed
UNITA for undermining the Lusaka Protocol and starting and
perpetuating the current conflict.  However, the UN pulled its
peacekeeping troops out of the country, and the regional South
African Development Community (SADC) has refrained from
intervening, due apparently to divisions over which side to
support.  Notably, the Angolan conflict appears to have deepened
the rift between SADC members Zimbabwe -- which openly supports
Luanda as well as the DRC government in that country's conflict,
and South Africa -- which appears to support UNITA and the DRC
rebel forces, though far less openly.

The civil war between UNITA and Angola's ruling MPLA began
shortly after the country was granted its independence by
Portugal in 1975.  During the Cold War, the U.S. and China
supported UNITA, while the Soviet Union and Cuba backed the MPLA.
Since the end of the Cold War, the war and its sponsorship has
evolved significantly.  This has been accelerated and exacerbated
as the conflicts in Angola and the DRC have become tightly
intertwined, and have linked to conflicts across the continent.

As it currently stands, Angola, Zimbabwe, Namibia, and the DRC
signed a mutual defense pact on April 8.  Angola also signed a
border security pact with Congo Brazzaville on May 12.  Angola,
Namibia, and Zimbabwe have all sent forces to help the Kabila
regime in the DRC, and those forces have reportedly 

[CTRL] Military Intelligence 6

1999-05-13 Thread Kris Millegan

 -Caveat Lector-

from:
http://www.cc.umist.ac.uk/sk/mi6.html
A HREF="http://www.cc.umist.ac.uk/sk/mi6.html"Military Intelligence 6/A
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Whilst MI5 is concerned with threats to national security in the UK
(internal), MI6 is concerned with such threats from foreign countries
and organisations (external). This is the role we perhaps more
traditionally associate with intelligence gathering. More towards
"spying", away from the detective work that MI5 engages in more these
days. MI6 recruits agents, and attempts to infiltrate foreign groups and
governments who it perceives may be a threat to UK national security.
For MI6 the end of the Cold War has posed a different problem than the
one MI5 faces. MI6 now has more targets, with the world’s focus less
concentrated on Moscow. Terrorist groups, and states, are now high
profile targets. Networks of new agents are required, as the requirement
for intelligence shifts. Industrial espionage, furthering British trade
interests has also moved into the national interest. Gathering
intelligence on friendly governments, obtaining advanced knowledge of
their negotiating positions is also a new target for MI6. These are
changing times for this organisation...



It should be remembered that the UK has two intelligence / security
agencies (MI5 and MI6) whilst most countries only have one. So the
following organisations are only partially equivalent.

Central Intelligence Agency (CIA): US Intelligence Organisation
CESID: Spanish Intelligence Organisation
MOSSAD: Israel's Intelligence Organisation
Russian SVR



MI6 is based in London, in a new purpose built set of offices at 64
Vauxhall Cross, on the South Bank of the Thames. The building is said to
be architecturally "interesting". It would be nice to get hold of a
picture of this building.
I believe that Mr David Spedding is in charge at MI6.
I have no idea how many people work for them, but the numbers are not
great. The Sunday Times (14/04/96) reveals that currently fewer than 10
people are involved in counter-proliferation (tackling the spread of
nuclear, biological and chemical weapons around the globe) in MI6.



There a number of books on the UK Intelligence agencies:
Secret ServiceBy Christopher Andrew. A clear history of the Secret
Services in Britain. Includes the special relationship with Special
Branch.SpycatcherBy Peter Wright. This book is famous because of the UK
Governments attempts to get it banned.Wright wrote the book when MI5
failed to pay him the pension which he felt entitled to. It gives a
valuable insight into MI5.Next Stop ExecutionBy Oleg Gordievsky.
Publisher Macmillan (ISBN 0-333-62086-0). This is an autobiography of
Gordievsky, a KGB officer who was recruited by the SIS in the early 70s
amd finally defected to Britain in the mid eighties after he was blown
by Aldrich Ames, a KGB spy in the CIA.Perfect English Spy: Sir Dick
White and the Secret WarThis is an account of the life of Dick White,
head of MI5 and later the SIS.Foreign Intelligence OrganizationsBy
Jeffrey T. Richelson (Ballinger Publishing Co., Cambridge,
Massachusetts, 1988). Lots of good information on both MI5 and MI6, as
well as GCHQ and Special Branch. Also covers intelligence organisations
of every other country except the US. Contains the current
organisational charts for MI5 and MI6.MI6By Nigel West. Rather
plodding(?)The Second Oldest ProfessionBy Phillip Knightley. Very
cynical about the 'alleged' capabilities and successes of the
intelligence agencies. Believe he is a British writer for the Times.
MI5: The Security ServiceFrom the horse's mouth! A 34 page booklet on
MI5, published by the goverment. ISBN 0-11-341087-5, (4.95 UK pounds).
This publication was the first time the UK government publicaly admitted
the existence of MI5.
This section is undergoing some changes - if you have a better review of
any of the above books, to a book which is missing, please contact me...



In the recent controversy over the Ordtech and Matrix Churchill
arms-to-Iraq deals it was alleged that several of the business men
nearly convicted (they were found innocent on direction of the judge)
were recruited by MI6 agents to spy on Iraqi arms installations and
report their findings to MI6 operatives. We await the findings of the
Scott inquiry which is investigating Ministers signing of public
interest immunity orders (such orders attempt to suppress information
from being used at a trial for reasons of national security) relating to
these cases. Reported in The Telegraph (30/10/95).
UPDATE: Scott has reported but it remains to be seen what everyone will
make of it all yet. I shall write some more here when it becomes clear
what the implications, if any, of the Scott report are. One thing is
clear Scott's enquiries have cleared the intelligence agencies and
government of any accusations of conspiracy. 22/02/96
UPDATE: It appears that following the vote in Parliment, narrowly won by
the Government, the Scott report has been burried. 02/04/96

[CTRL] One page from Mirror site of censored site

1999-05-13 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://jya.com/MI6dir.htm
A HREF="http://jya.com/MI6dir.htm"MI6 Directory/A
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13 May 1999. Birdie says that it is another, yet unidentified, US Web
site which published 100+ names of MI6 officers. The site is said to be
now inactive. A press report on it should be appearing in Europe later
today. That's all we know until birdie dumps more.
12 May 1999
Source: http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Jardin/8767/MI6dir.htm

The source URL disappeared on May 12, 1999, at about 5:00 PM US-CST. A.
has provided a TAR.Z compressed file of the complete site:
http://jya.com/mi6-rt.gz (79K).

Richard Tomlinson has written us today that there was never any names or
information on his site that was not public information, and that HMG is
overreacting for public effect to stigmatize his efforts. The names
of MI6 officers cited in his affidavit on MI6 and Princess Diana below:
Nicholas John Andrew LANGMAN

Richard David SPEARMAN

Chief of MI6 David SPEDDING

Nicholas Bernard Frank FISHWICK

Maurice KENDWRICK-PIERCEY

John RIDDE

Richard FLETCHER

Alan PETTY

Chief of MI6 Colin McCOLL

These names, and another, Andrew Fulton, were previously publicized:
http://www.inside-news.ch/Shayler/!milosev.htm (mirrored here)





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Directory of MI6 Officers

The first step to bringing accountability to MI6 is to publish the names
of their officers. Every other branch of British public service
publishes an annual directory of their officers. The Army has the Army
list, the Police the Constabulary list etc. But MI6 publishes no such
list. Why? Because they do not want their officers to be held
accountable for their actions.

MI6 whine that the publication of such a list would "endanger the lives
of agents". This is a smokescreen. Any member of the UK armed forces or
the police faces far greater physical danger in the course of his normal
duty than an MI6 officer, yet their names are published because they are
legally accountable. So why not MI6 too?

Below is a partial list. It is not yet complete, but further names will
be added as they are researched.

INJUNCTED!! - MI6 obtain another injunction - read below!

[Two images of injunction were not accessible]

 [No names provided]





For More Information Contact:
Richard Tomlinson
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Last modified: May 11, 1999






MI6 and the Princess of Wales

Attached below is a sworn and testified statement that I have made on
12th May 1999 to the enquiry into the deaths of the Princess of Wales,
Dodi Al Fayed, and Henri Paul. I firmly believe that MI6 have
information in their files that would assist Judge Stephan's enquiry.
Why don't they yield up this information? They should not be entitled to
use the Official Secrets Act to protect themselves from investigation
into the deaths of three people, particularly in the case of an incident
of this magnitude and historical importance.





I, Richard John Charles Tomlinson, former MI6 officer, of Geneva,
Switzerland hereby declare:
1.I firmly believe that there exist documents held by the British Secret
Intelligence Service (MI6) that would yield important new evidence into
the cause and circumstances leading to the deaths of the Princess of
Wales, Mr Dodi Al Fayed, and M. Henri Paul in Paris in August 1997.
2.I was employed by MI6 between September 1991 and April 1995. During
that time, I saw various documents that I believe would provide new
evidence and new leads into the investigation into these deaths. I also
heard various rumours – which though I was not able to see supporting
documents – I am confident were based on solid fact.
3.In 1992, I was working in the Eastern European Controllerate of MI6
and I was peripherally involved in a large and complicated operation to
smuggle advanced Soviet weaponry out of the then disintegrating and
disorganised remnants of the Soviet Union. During 1992, I spent several
days reading the substantial files on this operation. These files
contain a wide miscellany of contact notes, telegrams, intelligence
reports, photographs etc, from which it was possible to build up a
detailed understanding of the operation. The operation involved a large
cast of officers and agents of MI6. One more than one occasion, meetings
between various figures in the operation took place at the Ritz Hotel,
Place de Vendome, Paris. There were in the file several intelligence
reports on these meetings, which had been written by one of the MI6
officers based in Paris at the time (identified in the file only by a
coded designation). The source of the information was an informant in
the Ritz Hotel, who again was identified in the files only by a code
number. The MI6 officer paid the informant in cash for his information.
I became curious to learn more about 

[CTRL] OEN 5/13/99

1999-05-13 Thread Kris Millegan

 -Caveat Lector-

from:
http://www.aci.net/kalliste/
A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A
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Spy vs. Spy

'Rogue' Spy Publishes MI6 Names on the Internet

Ex-spies are not supposed to fight back. Jeez.

A RENEGADE MI6 agent was believed last night to have posted the
identities of a large number of serving British intelligence officers on
the Internet in one of the worst security breaches for years.
Richard Tomlinson, a former officer with the Secret Intelligence Service
who was jailed on secrecy charges two years ago, is thought to have used
an American web site to gain his revenge on his former bosses.

As the Government strove to have the web site closed down, appeals were
issued to British newspaper and media outlets not to divulge its address
or contents. Publishing such details "could put lives at risk", said
Rear Adml David Pulvertaft, the secretary of the defence, press and
broadcasting advisory committee that advises the media on national
security.

The affair has shown the difficulties that governments face in
preventing publication of highly sensitive material in the Internet age.
Web sites can be set up in a matter of minutes and can then be read
anywhere in the world.

The Government has managed to close two other sites operated by
Tomlinson - in Switzerland and California - on which he threatened to
publish information he had gathered while at MI6. Last month the
Treasury solicitor obtained an injunction against him and he closed down
his site in Lausanne rather than risk a violation.

A week later he launched a California-based site, on GeoCities, on which
he promised to post a map of all the MI6 offices worldwide. Again, it
was closed after an appeal from the Government. At the time of his
trial, part of which was held in camera, newspapers were asked not to
use photographs of Tomlinson for fear of jeopardising undercover
intelligence operations.

Intelligence sources said that the new site contained information that
could prove "very damaging". One insider said that it was not all
accurate or up to date and nor was it explicitly the work of Tomlinson.
"But the suspicions are very strong," he said.

David Shayler, the former MI5 officer whom Britain tried in vain to
extradite from France last year, told Channel 4 News: "I know from
seeing the site myself that he has been threatening to do this. I think
the Government is running a great deal of risk because it has in some
ways persecuted Richard Tomlinson."

The investigative journalist Duncan Campbell said that he had been in
e-mail contact with Tomlinson, a 37-year-old New Zealander, for three
months. A fortnight ago "he said he was going to do this - he wouldn't
say where".

Mr Campbell said: "He was getting very angry and he also believed that
MI6 had somehow or other planted viruses in his computer to try to
destroy it first. I think he is out to do damage because of the way he
feels."

Mr Campbell said Tomlinson believed that MI6 was acting to ensure he was
thrown out of every country he tried to settle in. He said: "By making
an international pariah of him they perhaps have driven him to the
wall." Mr Campbell said that other Internet users in the United States
were already offering to display Mr Tomlinson's information on their web
sites in an attempt to beat what they saw as censorship.

Tomlinson's solicitor, John Wadham, said that he had no direct knowledge
about whether his client was involved. But he said that last weekend
Tomlinson had claimed: "I will eventually find a web site that will
accept me, even if it has to be China."

Some time ago Tomlinson began setting up web pages in which he
threatened to publish the synopsis of a book on his MI6 career. It was
that synopsis, which he sent to an Australian publisher, that led to his
being jailed for a year in 1997, two years after he was sacked by the
Secret Service.

He was charged under Section 1 of the Official Secrets Act, which
forbids any unauthorised disclosure by a serving or former officer of
the security and intelligence services. Tomlinson was freed on probation
after six months and has been pursued around the world since by a series
of Government injunctions.

He joined MI6 in 1991 and served in Bosnia, Russia and the Middle East.
He has nursed a grievance since being sacked. He tried to take his case
to an industrial tribunal, but was prevented from doing so.

Tomlinson has made a number of unsubstantiated claims, including
allegations that MI6 tried to assassinate the Yugoslav leader, Slobodan
Milosevic, seven years ago. He has also used the Internet to taunt his
former employers.

One web page carried a picture of a man - presumably himself - wearing a
Viking-style hat, with the top of his face blotted out. The photograph
was superimposed on a picture of the Secret Intelligence Service's
headquarters at Vauxhall Cross, London. As the site switched on, the
theme to Monty Python's Flying Circus was played, an allusion to the

Re: [CTRL] Urantia

1999-05-13 Thread drbongo

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yeah right

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Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Urantia]

1999-05-13 Thread Robert Tatman

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Colleen Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 As they say, different strokes for different folks; must read it, and
 find a copy.

 Thank you again; it took a lot of knowledge to compile this into one
 book...four sections, as you said.

 I am looking forward to reading; library did not have copy here.

 Colleen

 Am trying around.

Colleen, try http://www.spiritweb.org/Urantia/ubcover.html for an online
version of the Urantia Book. I'm not going to pass judgment on it, but do
always keep the motto of CTRL in mind: Caveat Lector, "Let the reader beware."

Bob

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Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Urantia]

1999-05-13 Thread Colleen Jones

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Bob:

Thank you - will proceed with caution.

My attention span is so short these days, it will take a lot of doing to
brainwash me.

There is a difference between propaganda and prophecywhat it is, I
do not know; guess it depends on whose side you are on.

If I end up in a monastery with a lot of Monks - you will know they got
me.

Colleen

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[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: The sound of fighter planes

1999-05-13 Thread Mack White

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From: "Sasa Rakezic" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: The sound of fighter plane
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 00:48:40 +0200
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Sasa Rakezic
P.F. 163
26000 Pancevo
Yugoslavia (Serbia)
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May 12th 1999

Hello folks

It turned out that yesterday, around 2 PM,  during the NATO bombings of the
antiaitcraft defenses placed near the villages around Pancevo, the bus was
passing just about 30-40  meters from the place where the bombs fell... It
is the same bus that Gordana takes every day when she goes to work, and
today she  spoke to the bus conducter who witnessed the whole event...The
conducter said that people in the bus have heard the sound of the planes,
and the next thing that they saw were the bombs exploding near the house on
the side of the road, while the military vechicles were passing there (they
are forced to constantly move their anti-aircraft weaponry), heading to the
near-by forest. Not only that the house was crushed and set to fire, but
the explosion as well launched  parts of the construction all around. One
of the bricks hit and broke the window of the bus, but, by  a wonder, none
of the passengers were hurt... Everybody was appalled! The bus stopped, and
haven't continued its ride before some time, as all needed to collect their
mind ... Three of the villagers were injured, including the poor older
couple
from the house that was completely demolished. I was thinking that one of
the most terrorizing aspects of this bombing campaign is that it is
actually so wide, that noone knows if the house on the end of the road is
going to be torn to pieces, or weather some peaceful neighbor is in danger
to be targeted, or what is going to happen next. And still, the whole
action is presented as "selective" and as if projected to be human and
civilized. War, any war,  is built on the idea of destruction, which mostly
means just prosaic killing.To the innocent people who died or were injured
or left homeless, it hardly metters if the executors were the Milosevic's
brutal special forces, or fanatics from KLA, or NATO's sophisticated
machinery. The final result is always the same: innocent people that are
bleeding. If this is covered with the facade of "civilized behaviour" and
"progress" embodied in the shiny machines of modern technology, it makes it
only more frightening.
As for the sound of NATO  aircrafts, which is everybody's
nightmare here, I received a letter by a friend from San Francisco, a
cartoonist Chris Lanier."Here in San Francisco", said Chris, "every year
they have an event called "Fleet Week." It
has something to do with the Navy, I don't know what. A lot of gunboats
shore up in the harbor, and various fighter planes put on a spectacle of
formation flying above the bay. The "Blue Angels" always fly, doing loops,
leaving vapor trails in the sky...
The week before the performance is terrible. The fighters fly their test
runs, zooming over the neighborhoods, rattling the windows, shaking the
ground, thrumming the eardrums with the roar of their engines. The news
always does something about the Blue Angels, showing footage of them arcing
through the air, the sun photogenically glinting from their steel blue
wings.
I think it never occurs to the majority of the spectators at Fleet Week
that what they are watching are not machines built to entertain them -
machines built to do loop-de-loops and make vapor-trail geometric designs -
but rather machines that were built for the sole purpose of slaughtering
people.
I don't think that most people here realize that the sound of fighter plane
engines, for most people in the world, is a sound that causes terror, that
announces the proximity of the bombs. They just hear it as the sound of
Fleet Week".
Bye
Sasa

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Re: [CTRL] Urantia

1999-05-13 Thread drbongo

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are you talking of the antichrist and who are the antichrists?

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Re: [CTRL] Urantia

1999-05-13 Thread drbongo

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dear Jamie,
so the antichrists view us as "useless eaters"? is that like "cattle"?  is
what your saying is that the antichrists view us as no better than animals?
 who are the antichrists?  and do the antichrists want to kill all of us
and what world events indicate this?  will the biochip be used to control
us, and our numbers, and control our travel.  has it begun,  are they in
government today?  shall we know them by their works?


drbongo

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[CTRL] Fwd: Book Note: The Murder of Brian Jones

1999-05-13 Thread Kris Millegan





 "The Murder of Brian Jones," by Anna Wohlin, Christine Lindsjoo
(Contributor); Hardcover; @ $18.20 each  (Not yet released by publisher,
but Amazon is
taking orders and will ship in August, when the book is scheduled be released).






[CTRL] Elint : News with Intelligence

1999-05-13 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://elint.server101.com/
A HREF="http://elint.server101.com/"Elint : News with Intelligence /A
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anywhere else.

  Find out what is happening behind the news in Elint's Intelligence
 resources. Go directly to national Security and Intelligence agencies,
as well as independent sources, to make your own evaluation of the
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  Gain the facts for yourself. Check out the databases of world
information in Elint's Net Resources. You may use an array of tools to
get the facts and unearth the truth.

  Discover what the experts know and think. Read the series of in-depth
reports. Find the unvarnished truths that others do not want you to
know. Here are five contributors to Elint:
Shane Allen is an MBA graduate student at the Stephen F. Austin
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[CTRL] U.S. secret agenda for the Balkans and Europe

1999-05-13 Thread Kris Millegan

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U.S. secret agenda for the Balkans and Europe

Yugoslavia enjoyed peace and growing prosperity since 1945. 1n 1967, when
Yugoslavia was threatened by the Soviet Union, the US 6th Fleet cruised its
coast as a protective force. In WW2, Tito was a staunch ally of the US and
UK, as had been the Serbs in the previous world war. Since the days of
Byzantium, the Christian Balkans have stood as a bulwark against invaders of
Europe even when faced with overwhelming odds, such as invasion by the
Ottoman Empire. How did these people recently become pariahs and their
strategic position so unimportant that we would bomb them into evacuating
their homeland?  What agenda is at work that required the dismemberment of
Yugoslavia?

The change is recent: even as short a time ago as the late 1980s, when
Russia was emerging from the Soviet Union, a secret meeting between the
highest-ranking officers of the armed forces of Nato and Russia placed
maintaining the security of Yugoslavia at the top of their agenda. With the
objectives of the Nato and the Warsaw Pact redundant, these officers agreed
a mutual interest - the protection of Europe from aggression arising from
potentially hostile, Muslim states.

The term "Europe" may be interpreted in a number of ways and one is
"Christendom" - which may be seen as a shared religion, or set of values. It
is these commonalties that link Moscow to Madrid, Athens to London and Oslo
to Rome. When Islamic forces invaded Spain and France, it took some 600
years to liberate the region. Similarly, it took a combined European force
to defeat the Ottoman invasion and lift the siege of Vienna; only this
century were the Ottoman Turks in Europe pushed into the enclave around
Constantinople and in this the Serbs played a major role.

Christendom, or that area containing those who share the values of modern
Europe, now extends to include Washington and Ottawa. Though these nations
comprise peoples of many religions and races, they may be viewed as part of
one, broad culture which is variously described as "the West", or "Western
democracies." Whether or not it is proper to make this observation, there
are those in senior positions throughout European governments and armed
forces who do see themselves as part of this picture (the actions of Serbian
sympathisers within Nato bears this out).

One invasion route into Europe is from Asia Minor (modern-day Turkey),
through the Balkans and into Eastern Europe. The Mongols considered this
option and rejected it (choosing instead to invade Eastern Europe via
Russia), whereas later, the Ottoman Turks succeeded in entering Europe
through the Balkans. Geography dictates that it is in the strategic interest
of Europe to safeguard the three invasion routes (via Spain and Russia being
the two others). The disintegration of the Soviet Union and the collapse of
the Warsaw Pact raised once again the potential threat to Europe along its
south-eastern frontier.

Various causes may be surmised for the rise of Fundamentalist Islam in
recent decades and it may be coincidental that this period also saw the
independence from the Soviet Union of its southern republics, some of which
are Islamic. Taking advantage of this situation, Iran has struggled to
achieve hegemony in the region and its main competitor is Turkey. The
initial reaction of Russia and Nato was to see these turbulent and
expansionist forces as a threat, though to Russia, the danger was more
immediate. The governments of George Bush, Margaret Thatcher and Mikhail
Gorbachev - and in particular senior officers within their armed forces -
shared this concern and agreed that if any threat could exist now, or in the
near future - it lay within the Islamic nations.

There are various means by which this threat could manifest itself-
terrorism, insurgency, rebellious immigrant groups, and missile attack from
North Africa included - and land invasion is both traditional and the most
dangererous. The USA, UK and Nato countries in general invested heavily in
Russia, including retraining elements of the Russian armed forces in an
attempt to shore up their south-eastern defences. One means by which I know
this was effective is that during this period of the early 1990s I had
meetings with a number of military officers from nations either bordering
Russia, or nearby, who expressed considerable alarm at the new-found prowess
of Russia's military machine.

This state of unanimity of purpose was not to last. First, the leaderships
of the USA, UK and Russia changed, as Bill Clinton, John Major and Boris
Yelstin were elected. In the USA, the Democrats in general and Clinton's
administration in particular, had a different set of concerns from both the
Republicans and George Bush, Russia and Europe. Second, as the European
Union grew bigger and stronger, the possibility of a European-based 

Re: [CTRL] Urantia

1999-05-13 Thread G Kuric

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The Urantia Book on line:

http://www.ubook.org/index1.html

gek

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Re: [CTRL] Urantia

1999-05-13 Thread Stopforth, Jamie

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drbongowhy would they want to control us by use of a biochip?

He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to
receive a mark of his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could
buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the
number of his name. - Revelation 13:16-17

So they can control the resources, after all according to them, we're
"useless eaters."

   As for this book... Like "kinda" said, most Christians won't go near it
and they don't need to... I have no desire to read something that goes into
the life of Jesus and eternal life when I've got THE source already... The
Bible.  Whatever this book is, whatever insights it may claim to have, I'm
sure the Bible covers it ALL already.

Jamie

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Re: [CTRL] [IWAR] MIL Military satellite declared dead (fwd)

1999-05-13 Thread Colleen Jones

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I am happy this was another flopnik; why?

Because the weather her in Ohio has normalized somewhatand I hope it
stays that way.

Why all these "military" satelliteswhat is the great need.cui
bono - well, look how the taxpayers are ripped off daily, and remember
these corrupt individuals want your social security to continue a war
that is not a war, that is an illegal war, and is strictly a war with a
kiss of death on each bomb, for "humanitarian" reasons.

What great power is behind Clinton that he thinks, and I say he thinks
and believes, he can do as he would like.

You know, if a vintage plane can engineer itself through the President's
bedroom window, through all that security and without a road map, and
they hit the sacred ground of the Chinese Embassy...well we know now
what diversionary tactics are do we not.

Truck Drivers Unite

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[CTRL] Fwd: Abdulla Bulbul Ameer / The sons of the prophet were hardy and bold

1999-05-13 Thread Colleen Jones


This old song was taken from I Kings 20and if you read between the
lines you might find it quite revealing..you can see Sirhan Bishara
Sirhan (Sirhan means wanderer, like the Perigrine)this is also a
chapter which reveals a secret masonic signal being given (vs. 32-33),
but what the signal was, nobody knowsalwys remember, though, all
kings are brothers.

When I think of Yeltsin, I think of this song; when I think of Sirhan, I
think of this song; and when I think of Bobby Kennedy and Jimmy Hoffa, I
think of this song.

When I sink of the stanza of a body being dumped in a river, I think of
Bill Colby and a lot of other unexplained deaths, all linked to a bible
calendar..

Well, for those who might be interestedsome say it with music before
the fact

Colleen




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Re: [CTRL] Urantia

1999-05-13 Thread Kinda Ford

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In a message dated 5/12/99 11:23:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 so tell me what you got out of it


God consciousness, eternal life, and a renewed respect for our Creator Son,
Jesus of Nazareth.

K.

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Re: [CTRL] Urantia

1999-05-13 Thread Kinda Ford

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In a message dated 5/12/99 11:27:31 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 why would they want to control us by use of a biochip?

The evil empire wants to control us with biochips in an effort to cancel out
the "still small voice"..the indwelling spirit of God.

Kinda

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[CTRL] Brits at War

1999-05-13 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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From wsws.org

WSWS : News  Analysis : Europe : The Balkan Crisis

Chinese embassy bombing escalates political tensions in Britain

Conservatives tell Blair to mount ground war or prepare for defeat

By Chris Marsden
13 May 1999

The aftershock from NATO's bombing of the Chinese embassy in Belgrade
has split cross-party unity in Britain for the air war against
Serbia. The Conservative Party, sensing a disaster in the making,
have launched a campaign to make sure that everyone knows that this
is "Blair's war" and that any blame for failure must be laid to rest
at his door. They have coupled this with demands for ground war as
the only realistic option for success.

Shadow Foreign Secretary Michael Howard first launched an attack on
the government in Parliament, calling the bombing of the Chinese
embassy an example of "gross incompetence". The following day he
upped the ante by writing an article in the Daily Telegraph, in which
he noted that the air war had worsened a "humanitarian disaster" and
that there were "diplomatic failures leading up to the crisis."

"Two things have been lacking," he added, "clarity in NATO's
objectives, and a consistency in the means employed to carry them
out. The impression is given that the action is being made up as we
go along, and has not been properly thought through." Pointing to
Blair's contradictory statements regarding the use of ground troops,
he asked, "We want to know whether such a decision has been
taken—and, if not, if and when it will be."

Howard concluded by calling for the convening of an inquiry into the
conduct of the war after it ended. His line was echoed by Sir Malcolm
Rifkind, former Secretary of State for Defence, who said, "I am still
puzzled why Mr. Blair did not take the advice of our military. I was
at the Ministry of Defence during the Bosnia conflict where the
limits of air power were impressed on me. I cannot imagine that the
assessment would be any different now."

Heavyweights within the civil service and the military were quoted in
sympathy with these views. Sir John Weston, former British Ambassador
to both NATO and the UN, said, "The continued credibility of both is
an overriding long-term Western interest, and requires a surer touch
by political leaders. Meanwhile, persevere; and be ready to put
forces on the ground in Kosovo."

Former Chief of Defence Staff Lord Craig asked, "Are we now after
military victory? Will we use ground forces? What are our military
objectives? Where is the consistency in all of this?"

The reaction in the Conservative Press has been even more forthright.
In an article in the Telegraph entitled "It's time for Plan B—always
assuming NATO has got one", columnist Boris Johnson wrote, "With the
distinguished exception of Sion Simon, I can't think of a single
general, armchair supremo, or indeed anyone, who thinks this war is
anything but a complete and utter shambles The point is that
Milosevic has at no point been confronted by the kind of offensive
that might have made sense of the war."

The Times said of the embassy bombing, "A single crass mistake has
compounded the already growing public unease that the conduct of this
war is fundamentally unserious Both politically and militarily,
time is running out if disaster is to be avoided. The war of public
opinion is being lost."

Calling for a ground war, its editorial continued, "War on the cheap
is an oxymoron. The Kosovans have already suffered disastrously from
this half-war. For NATO, for European peace and for Britain, the
true, high reckoning beckons: it is called failure."

Blair has become increasingly desperate regarding the mounting
opposition to the war against Serbia and the crisis faced by his
government. This week he even made a scathing attack on the media for
its supposed underplaying of the plight of Kosovar Albanians—the
central justification for the NATO offensive. He berated the
assembled journalists with the remark, "Once you've reported one mass
rape, the next one's not so newsworthy. Seen one mass grave, you've
seen the lot."

The government response to Howard's statements was to accuse the
Tories of “undermining the morale” of the British forces. Blair's
main spokesman, Alistair Campbell, said, “Michael Howard won't cut
much ice with the government or the British people, who acknowledge
that in conflict situation things can get tough from time to time and
people have to show some determination and resolve, not flake off at
the first sign of trouble.”

The situation is an explosive one. Faced with the failure of their
air-war strategy, growing antagonisms with Russia and China, and a
vociferous campaign by the Conservative right, the Labour government
is being pushed into a no-win situation. Blair has linked his future
firmly to that of Clinton in the US. Only the US can decide whether a
ground war will be called. If it is not, then Blair will be savaged
by the Tories and the media for his Balkan escapade. If it is, 

[CTRL] 5/13 Possible MI6 Connections to Princess Diana's Death

1999-05-13 Thread Lloyd Miller

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http://members.home.net/tcocp/

5/13 Possible MI6 Connections to Princess Diana's Death

Nine hours ago, I posted the URL for a former MI6 officer's Geocities web
page. This page was shut down later that evening. Not to worry, John at the
Cryptome is on the job! The above link is to a section of the now closed
page that dealt with the death of Princess Diana and possible MI6
connections. Click here to download a compressed version of Richard
Tomlinson's entire web site.

The British press is pathetic. Do they think their readers won't look
outside the country for information on this? Sorry lads, Defense Advisory
Notice No. 6 doesn't apply to me, or millions of other people outside the UK
police state:

"During one meeting with Dr Fishwick, he casually showed to me a three-page
document that on closer inspection turned out to be an outline plan to
assassinate the Serbian leader President Slobodan Milosevic. This plan
contained a political justification for the assassination of Milosevic,
followed by three outline proposals on how to achieve this objective. I
firmly believe that the third of these scenarios contained information that
could be useful in establishing the causes of death of Henri Paul, the
Princess of Wales, and Dodi Al Fayed. This third scenario suggested that
Milosevic could be assassinated by causing his personal limousine to crash.
Dr Fishwick proposed to arrange the crash in a tunnel, because the proximity
of concrete close to the road would ensure that the crash would be
sufficiently violent to cause death or serious injury, and would also reduce
the possibility that there might be independent, casual witnesses. Dr
Fishwick suggested that one way to cause the crash might be to disorientate
the chauffeur using a strobe flash gun, a device which is occasionally
deployed by special forces to, for example, disorientate helicopter pilots
or terrorists, and about which MI6 officers are briefed about during their
training. In short, this scenario bore remarkable similarities to the
circumstances and witness accounts of the crash that killed the Princess of
Wales, Dodi Al Fayed, and Henri Paul."



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Re: [CTRL] Memetic Fields: Basis of Social Organism

1999-05-13 Thread Lloyd Miller

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Lloyd Said:  No, F. Mann, you are missing the point entirely in an
ultra-reductionist, nominalist manner.

Mann Responded:  You made certain points which set me thinking, resulting
in my making different points, because I don't agree with
your points. To jump to the conclusion that I "missed
your point" because I made different points is fallacious
thinking.

Lloyd Sez:  No, I challenged your ideas and instead of
arguing effectively, you simply restated your opions which
I already read and understood.

Mann Said:  To achieve level-3 freedom it's imperative that you develop
the thinking skills and virtues of ultra-reductionism and
nominalism.

Lloyd Sez:  No, ultra-reductionism considers personal
identity and consciousness to be illusions.  Nominalism
is a dead end that ultimately denies approaching truth
through the scientific method.

Mann Said:  (I'm not suggesting that you even attempt to
advance to level-3 freedom. That may not be appropriate
for you. But this discussion may assist others to advance
to level-3 freedom.)

Lloyd Sez:  The above is a silly, gratuitous insult.  The argument
from intimidation.

Mann Said:  From a level-3 perspective the "Vatican social organism"
notion is a negative peme (and "reme" = religious meme)
in your head. The basic mental mechanism which gives
rise to such pemes/remes is anthropomorphism --
'#TL05AB: ANTHROPOMORPHISM AND RELATED PHENOMENA'
http://www.buildfreedom.com/tl/tl05ab.htm.


Lloyd Responds:  The Vatican Social Organism is a meme complex in the
mind of its members, those individuals subsumed and controlled
by the Vatican meme broadcasters.  In my mind it is a theory about
a possible external existent.  Recognizing that a macrobe or social
organism exists is not the same as being captured in its meme field.

Lloyd Goes On to Say:  Anthropomorphism can be a useful heuristic method in
developing and
clarifying hypotheses and theories.  I agree that it does not prove the
truth of any particular theory.  Only the scientific method can increase
or decrease an individual's confidence that a theory approaches external
truth.

"Lloyd Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Mr. Mann, I wrote all this to counteract your
assumption that collectives are delusional. Contrary
to what you have written, the individualist need not
deny the reality of collectives in order to refuse to
be part of them. Because the collective's pemes and
memes are real in the minds of others the collectives
are also real. The individualist need not join in.
However, this is not easy and requires a lifelong struggle
as one can unconsciously accept many memes and pemes.
People are born in collectives and rapidly become
infested with the memes propagated by the collective's
memetic field. Only after decades of stuggle a la
Gurdjieff can anyone hope to be an individual in direct
contact with the evidence of reality, unfiltered by the
social organism.

  Denial of the objective existence of collectives is
denial of reality, often a vain positing of one's own
individualityjust as the individual has a reality
beyond the reality of electro-chemically manipulated
cells and organs, collectives have an existence beyond
the actions of individuals human beings, including
"Masters" or the "Ruling Class."

  By the way, it is nearly universal that individualists
have considered collectives delusional a la Stirner
though without being as thorough going. I say unto you:
Pretending collectives don't exist doesn't work.

Mr. Mann, I wrote all this to counteract your
assumption that collectives are delusional.

Mann Responds:  The above isn't my assumption. That which I contend is
illusional occurs in people's heads. In other words, it's
not "collectives" which are illusional. It's the *notions*
in people's heads about certain "collectives existing" --
or even being volitional entities -- that are illusions.

Lloyd Responds:  I never said that the mere presence of an
idea of a collective in a person's head means the collective exists.
By the scientific method we can test which social collectives actually
exist by virture of a functioning memetic complex in an operating
set of individual minds.

Lloyd Said Earlier:  Contrary to what you have written, the individualist
need
not deny the reality of collectives in order to refuse to
be part of them.

Mann Responded:  Actually, a distinction needs to be made. I believe that
my body exists as a collective. There are real collectives
and there are illusions in people's heads.

The individual at level-3 freedom realizes that the fact
that millions of people think and behave as if certain
"collectives" are real doesn't make "them" so. From the
level-3 perspective, in these cases, there's nothing to
be part of or not part of. It's an issue of ceasing to
think, communicate, and behave like the ontological
collectivists (but pretending to do so, when that's
deemed appropriate).

Lloyd Responds:As I stated before, if a set of individuals
are 

[CTRL] The Ibogaine Story - Cure for addiction suppressed?

1999-05-13 Thread Kris Millegan

 -Caveat Lector-

An excerpt from:
The Ibogaine Story - Report on The Staten Island Project
Paul DeRienzo
Dana Beal
Autonmedia@1997
POB 568 Williamsburgh Station
Brooklyn, New York 11211-0568
718-963-2603
-
CHAPTER 1.

The War With The Junkies

It never would have happened if Tom Forcade hadn't shot himself in the head.

Forcade, who'd built High Times up to four million readers by being six
months ahead on new trends, was the only one who could keep the functions of
his sprawling Empire reconciled. But by October 1978, hounded by the DEA and
acutely depressed by scheming, ambitious underlings as well as the death of
his best friend Jack Coombs in a plane crash in Florida, the King was at the
end of his tether.

He was also wired on coke, and dependent on valium. Which is a funny thing,
since he had attended the opening of Howard Lotsof's film Smoke-In, and
Howard always told important people about Ibogaine.[1] But Lotsof's odd
factoid about Ibogaine interrupting his heroin/coke addiction in the early
'60s had no tangible application for Tom. Lost in the din, Forcade could no
longer pick out the one distant trend that could have saved him from his own
bad habits. Tom Forcade had run out of time.

In one weekend, Tom committed suicide; Jim Jones snuffed himself out with a
thousand followers; Dan White assassinated Harvey Milk and Mayor George
Moscone in San Francisco. And the pendulum started to swing back. It was as
if the CIA engineered a coup in a Third World country called the
Counterculture.

High Times' motivating spark was extinguished. It began to drift. And there
was this problem with the junkies in the art department.

A few years later John Lombardi would write in Esquire of his wife, Wendy, a
talented photographer, strung out on smack. Down on Grand Street around the
corner from the Soho Weekly News, Marcia Resnick and Johnny Thunders were
living on the couch at Sunset Studios, doing up incredible quantities of
smack, which they could afford because she was dealing it out of the back
door of the Soho to a celebrity scene that included John Belushi. Both Marcia
and Wendy were often employed by High Times art director Toni Brown, who was
to end up in 1981 on Pat Robertson's Christian Broadcasting Network,
denouncing her former employer and thanking Jesus for getting her off drugs.

With High Times, Forcade pioneered the true marijuana mass market. Before he
died he tried to create the same acceptability for his other favorite drug,
cocaine. But he always drew the line at heroin. He and Dana Beal had done the
first YIPPIE march against CIA heroin on July 4, 1971. He knew, even though
the William Burroughs groupies were dogging him the year before his suicide
to do it, that this was one frontier the magazine should not cross.

It wasn't intolerance of drugs. After all, High Times stood for exuberant
promotion of marijuana versus alcohol and cigarettes. And the '60s survivors
clustered around Tom would have been horrified by the idea of turning in a
friend just because they did problem drugs. But the deal was that junkies
didn't proselytize. What '60s survivors all knew was that heroin equalled ODs
and hepatitis. Except for coke, High Times editorial policy foreshadowed the
Dutch "harm reduction" model of market separation of pot and hard drugs.

The trouble, as heroin began to come back at the end of the '70s and the Art
Set got strung out, was that they only had two ways to pay for it on salaries
that were minute compared to their prestige. Sell it, which meant turning on
new people. Or — because the DEA would not seriously impede the flow of
reefer for another five years — they could always set up a pot dealer for a
rip off.

It worked like this: pot dealers had more marijuana and cash than they knew
what to do with. But like all newly rich, they were starved for recognition.
So some behind-the-scenes entrepreneur would be drawn to the minor glitterati
at the Village Voice, Soho or High Times, and find they could gain entry to
the scene, if they came bearing gifts. They would waive their usual built-in
scruples when they discovered their new celebrity friends were dabbling in
heroin. Soon their new friends would reveal that they also knew someone in
need of a pot connection. After a couple of times, the artist would take a
big front and "lose' it. Or report they had been "tied up and ripped off "

Scenario 2 came when credit was eventually cut off, and the celeb's bill with
their junk connection got too high. Then that nice harmless photog or writer
(now slightly tarnished) would do a Jekyll and Hyde, and "finger" their pot
connection to some junkie stickup artists. For enough of the take to erase
their bill and maybe keep themselves in smack for a month, they would send
the gunman around to tie you up for real, pistol-whip you, and take
everything you owned.

Wendy Lombardi had long since blown her credit when, on the night of
Forcade's wake at the Windows on the World, her third old man 

[CTRL] [7] Revelations of an International Spy

1999-05-13 Thread Kris Millegan

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an excerpt from:
Revelations of an International Spy
I. T. T. Lincoln
Robert M. McBride  Company©1916
New York
--[7]--

CHAPTER VII

THE DANGEROUS RUSE WHICH WON THE CONFIDENCE OF THE BRITISH FOREIGN OFFICE

WHEN Legationsrath Gneist, the German Consul at Rotterdam, reads these words
he will understand the dangerous game I was playing and the necessity for
deception that I had to practise even upon him. When it finally became clear,
that life in England for me, and every other naturalized foreigner, had
become impossible, the cumulative effect of the spy hunting epidemic, the
impending ruin of my business and the personal insult to which I was
subjected under the roof of my own club (the National Liberal) filled me with
a bitter desire for revenge. I made up my mind to shake England's 'dust from
my feet but not without "getting even."

The plan I mapped out to achieve this will seem to many rather startling. It
was certainly original. It was nothing less than a decision to find out
important naval and military secrets and to betray them to Germany, and,
having achieved that, to quit England forever, if still alive.

This is no mere figure of speech. I knew that what I was going to do—was
technically high treason, but my blood was boiling in me at all the
calculated barbarities inflicted by a haughty, perfidious race upon innocent
people.

My aim as stated was simplicity itself, but to carry it out meant clever
acting. Indeed, to effectively carry out my scheme it was essential that my
plan of campaign should be known only to me.

To obtain the secret information required in my hazardous undertaking
necessitated a confidential berth in the War Office. This was not so easily
accomplished. I offered my services in turn to the Home Secretary, to Sir
Edward Grey and to Mr. Churchill, all of —whom I knew personally, but they
were not accepted. Next I attempted to get into the Counter-Espionage
Department (M. 0. 5 J.) at the War Office. Just what happened I will set out
in some detail.

On December 10, I called on Lieutenant-Colonel Bellamy at the War Office and
asked him to introduce me to the Secret Service officers. Fortunately for my
plans I had for several weeks at the outbreak of hostilities served under
this officer as censor of all Hungarian and Rumanian correspondence and
cables at the War Office and at the Mount Pleasant Post Office.

My old chief at once presented me to Major Anderson in room 225 of the War
Office, who next day presented me to Capt. P. W. Kenny, who is the acting
chief of the Secret Service at the War Office, or rather of the military
CounterEspionage service. Captain Kenny is an officer of rare intelligence
and ability and is one of the best linguists I had met in England. But then
he is an Irishman. As an ex-M. P. I was cordially received.

Now my aim really was nothing less than to lure part of the British fleet
into a certain quarter of the North Sea on a certain day and to have the
German fleet within easy steaming distance. In order to procure this, I
proposed just the reverse to Captain Kenny and laid before him a carefully
prepared scheme, the ostensible purpose of which was to destroy part of the
German navy.

The plan I proposed to Captain Kenny was as follows:

"You lose, as a risk of war, vessels of all description. Battleships,
cruisers, destroyers, etc. Why not sacrifice one or two of these with a view
of destroying part of the German Navy?"

"Now what do you mean?" he queried.

"You will send two or three cruisers, or one dreadnought and two cruisers,
with attendant destroyers and torpedo boats, on some errand in the North Sea.
You will let me know three or four days beforehand. I will notify the Germans
and they will naturally send a more powerful squadron to the same vicinity on
the same day in order to destroy them. In order not to send your men to
certain death, you will tell them what is going to happen. They will be
prepared; they will fight. Surely, some of your vessels will be sunk, for the
Germans, knowing the type and number of your vessels, will be well prepared
to deal with you. Yet it is almost certain that some of your vessels, at any
rate, will escape and it is equally probable that in the fight you will
damage or sink a German vessel. The Germans will then see that my information
was correct. Now we will do this twice more; each time you must be ready to
sacrifice some war vessels of old types.

"After we have done this, say, three times, you will send a bigger squadron
in order to lure out a large, or the largest, part of the German High Sea
Fleet. In addition to your 'bait' squadron, you will have a very powerful
squadron of dreadnoughts and battle cruisers within easy steaming distance,
but far enough that even with the most powerful glasses they cannot be
discerned on the horizon. You will give instructions to your 'bait' squadron
how to fight and in which direction to run during the fight, luring the
Germans into a trap; of 

[CTRL] Another Nostradamus Prophecy

1999-05-13 Thread Das GOAT

 -Caveat Lector-

"Twice high, twice lowered,
 The East will weaken the West as well.
 Its [=the East's] adversary will fail under pressure
 After several struggles, routed by sea."
 --Century VIII, 59


"Twice high, twice lowered" -- World War I and World War II, elsewhere called
by Nostradamus "the two 'eclipses' " (prior to the "1999, 7th month" climax
to events) ?

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[CTRL] China Enraged by Chinagate

1999-05-13 Thread Das GOAT

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 "China is demanding major concessions from the United States -- such as
public  retraction of the allegation that Chinese spies stole US nuclear
secrets."
Will they threaten us with war if the Senate RE-impeaches "their" Bill
Clinton?


China seeking major concessions from US

LONDON, May 12 (Reuters) - China wants significant U.S. concessions on
sensitive military, trade and diplomatic issues before normalising relations
after NATO's bombing of the Chinese embassy in Belgrade, the Financial Times
reported on Wednesday.

``It is up to the United States...to take the initiative to get the
relationship back to normal,'' an unidentified senior adviser to Chinese
President Jiang Zemin was quoted as saying by the newspaper.

China has demanded a formal apology for last Friday's bombing, a thorough
investigation, the publication of the findings and the punishment of those
responsible.

But the Financial Times quoted the adviser as saying China was seeking other
conciliatory measures from the United States.

These included:

abandoning the idea of including Taiwan in the proposed development of a
U.S.-backed missile defence umbrella in Asia;

approving China's bid to join the World Trade Organisation without demanding
any substantial further opening of Chinese markets;

and dismissing allegations that a Chinese spy stole U.S. nuclear secrets.

Russia's Balkans envoy Viktor Chernomyrdin returned to Moscow on Tuesday
after talks with the Chinese leadership in Beijing on the Yugoslav crisis and
said he had new peace proposals to make to Washington.

Chernomyrdin said Moscow and Beijing were united in their demand for an end
to NATO air strikes.

NATO's accidental strike against the Chinese embassy in Belgrade last Friday
has catapulted China -- like Russia, a veto-wielding permanent member of the
U.N. Security Council -- into the thick of efforts to find a settlement.

Three Chinese citizens were killed and more than 20 people were wounded in
the bombing, which triggered furious student protests outside the U.S. and
British embassies in Beijing.

Russia's Interfax news agency quoted Chernomyrdin as saying China might be
willing to take part in an eventual international peacekeeping force in
Kosovo, provided it had Belgrade's support and was organised by the United
Nations, not NATO.

One of NATO's key demands on Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic is that he
withdraw his security forces from Kosovo and allow the return of hundreds of
thousands of refugees to their homes under the protection of an armed
international force.

In a separate report on Wednesday, the Financial Times said major Western
powers were likely to pursue negotiations for a United Nations Kosovo
resolution with Russia in a Group of Eight meeting later this week, probably
Friday.

The newspaper, quoting an unidentified British official for its information,
said the thrust of Western policy now appeared to be a redoubling of efforts
to try to use Russia as a diplomatic bridge not only to Belgrade but also to
Beijing.

British officials could not be reached immediately for comment.

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[CTRL] Russia and China -- Together Again ...

1999-05-13 Thread Das GOAT

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 [Reuters]
 "Russian envoy Viktor Chernomyrdin returned to Moscow after talks with
the Chinese leadership in Beijing on dealing with NATO actions in the
Yugoslav crisis.
 "MOSCOW AND BEIJING ARE UNITED in their demands," he said.


World Reacts to Russian Shakeup

LONDON (AP) -- U.S. and European leaders said they expect Russia to continue
its efforts to end the Kosovo crisis, despite President Boris Yeltsin's
firing of his prime minister and other key officials Wednesday.

Markets dipped in response to the news that Yeltsin had fired Yevgeny
Primakov as prime minister. The euro fell more than half a cent, and key
stock indexes slipped 1 percent in Paris, 0.9 percent in Frankfurt and 0.5
percent in London at midmorning. But analysts said they expected the slips to
be short-lived.

Last week, Russia and the seven major industrialized powers recommended a
Security Council resolution on the withdrawal of Yugoslav forces from Kosovo
and the deployment of an international security force, but made no mention of
NATO halting its bombing campaign against Yugoslavia.

French Foreign Minister Hubert Vedrine said he was confident the Russian
government would not abandon its role in trying to bring an end to the
conflict.

``The important thing is for us to continue the work we have already started
on a resolution to be adopted by the Security Council that would outline
conditions for a solution to the Kosovo'' crisis, Vedrine said.

In Washington, White House spokesman Joe Lockhart declined to comment on
Primakov's dismissal, saying it was a ``matter of internal Russian
politics.'' But he said President Clinton expected Russia to continue its
diplomatic role in the Kosovo crisis.

He also said he did not expect the firing to affect Russia's efforts to pull
out of its economic crisis.

British Prime Minister Tony Blair's office said it expected Russian
diplomatic efforts in Yugoslavia to continue.

``We have been clear throughout that the Russians have been acting in good
faith and I have no doubt that they will continue to do so,'' said Blair's
spokesman, Alastair Campbell.

Spanish Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar's office said he planned to go ahead
with a visit to Russia next week, including a meeting with Yeltsin.

``The trip to Russia has not been changed,'' government spokesman Josep Pique
told reporters.

The European Commission, the executive body of the European Union, took the
news calmly, saying in a statement released in Brussels, Belgium, that it
hopes ``the constructive role Russia is playing in relation to the search for
a solution to the Kosovo conflict will be sustained.''

Dutch Prime Minister Wim Kok said he had ``full confidence in the wish of
President Yeltsin to continue the existing cooperation between the Russian
Federation and the European Union.''


Yugoslav Peace Talks Resume

By ANGELA CHARLTON
.c The Associated Press

MOSCOW (AP) -- Russian and Western envoys pushed ahead with mediation efforts
for Kosovo today, under new pressure for a breakthrough after Boris Yeltsin
threatened to pull Russia out of negotiations.

Yeltsin welcomed French President Jacques Chirac today for talks on the
conflict in Yugoslavia.

``In Kosovo, we are standing in the face of the most serious challenge to
Europe in recent times,'' Yeltsin said at the start of the meeting. ``I
consider your initiative (to visit Moscow) very timely and important.''

Yeltsin did not refer to his warning Wednesday that Russia might halt its
mediation efforts, an unexpected blow to the peace process just when the West
was hoping a solution was near.

``Some people obviously aren't understanding our repeated proposals'' for
solving the crisis around the Yugoslav province of Kosovo, Yeltsin said.

The threat was clearly tied to Yeltsin's fight with his hard-line foes in
parliament, who began impeachment proceedings today. They accuse him of
bowing to NATO by mediating in the crisis instead of arming Yugoslavia.

Still, the consequences of such a diplomatic withdrawal would resonate far
beyond Russia's borders, frustrating peace efforts and further eroding the
West's relations with Russia and its erratic president.

Russia has opposed NATO's airstrikes on Yugoslavia but has sought to broker a
political solution. Those efforts continued today.

Chirac's visit focused on the Kosovo crisis, and he was to meet later with
Russia's special envoy on Yugoslavia, former Prime Minister Viktor
Chernomyrdin.

Chernomyrdin, meanwhile, was to discuss the Kosovo conflict with U.S. Deputy
Secretary of State Strobe Talbott and fly to Finland later today to meet
Finnish President Martti Ahtisaari. Ahtisaari has been suggested as a U.N.
mediator on Yugoslavia.

The United States and NATO have welcomed Russia's diplomatic efforts, hoping
Moscow can use its ties to Yugoslavia to make any peace deal more palatable
to Belgrade. Western officials hailed Russia's decision to move closer to
NATO's position by signing on to a 

Re: [CTRL] Tomlinson's Geocities site disappeared at about 5:00PM

1999-05-13 Thread Colleen Jones

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First, all those names are phoneywanna bet; second, if they are so
secret, what are they doing all over the internet.all they do, is
change their names again.

Remember the game of Chess the assassins of JFK played...Mr. Bishop, Mr.
Knight, Mr. King.and never trust a pipe smoker either.

Colleen

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Re: [CTRL] 5/13 Possible MI6 Connections to Princess Diana's Death

1999-05-13 Thread Colleen Jones

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With regard to MI6 connections to Princess Diana - do you believe the
English government would permit the Princess of Wales, whose son would
someday be King of England, to flit around without being followed.

Consider - Bob Pope who headed up the National Enquirer years ago, was
CIA; and my old friend who was MI6 worked for him for a period of time -
I might add they had a falling out over her work with the assassination
of JFKnobody wanted her into that.

Now, the "paverotzi" or whatever they choose to call them, you can be
sure that some of them harassing the Princess had MI6 connections; why
do you think they followed her around like the hounds from hell?

Married to an Arab?  When she first became the Princess of Wales, they
dressed here like something out of WWII; now with the Versaci crowd, she
did over do it a bit, but as the one man said, it was obvious that this
beautiful young lady was not too bright, and "nuttier than a fruitcake".

Of course, she would be watched; she was most vulnerable and had placed
herself in a very dangerous position running loose from country to
country while her children, were fortuntely and hopefully - safe in
school?   Safe in schoolnow think about that onesafe in school?

MI6 would have no reason to cause the murder of the young Princess; he
strange behavior on television, with the rolling of her eyes as one on
drugs, would have been enough to put her away "privily" before she
became a real source of embarrassment.

Now - we have the Avengers of the Blood Royal.who got knocked off
lately, or who will be.because if it was the Mossad that caused her
downfall, well.if they can prove it, all hell would break loose.

A psychic - God Save the Queen - knew exactly where the young Princess
would be, knew the route..and this psychic no doubt like a Jeanne
Dixon, had warned the young Princess.Read Acts 16 and Acts19for
a little clueand remember that a virtual shrine has been built
around Diana, whom they all fell on all fours to worship.whom the
Queen the press said "despised"which without a doubt, was not true.

MI6 was there to protect the Princess; there was a doctor on the scene,
like a President has the black bag man with him at all times.she
felt safe.

But lurking in the background, were the same assassins - or rather the
same secret society who caused the murder of our President and I believe
sabotaged the Apollo, that Janury 27, 1967 some years before.

Let us say, Gideon's Spies - and his 300 - are running amuck, causing
all sorts of little disasters, unchecked.

So ends the story of the little 5.10 Princess, who married a Prince, had
two beautiful children.and a brothr name Champagne Charlie, who
would not let her return to her own home.

I hope she is buried on the island where they buried the animals.but
somehow I have a feeling that Cheapo Champagne Charlie buried her in the
terrible dungeon vault, beneath the estate...

They played Danny Boy at JFK's entourage to Arlington Cemetary, which I
have called the Valley of Hamon Gog.you will find th secrets to all
the murders, in the King James version of the Murderers Biblethe
first bible published for the Kings in the 1600 period where again, they
all played different roles, at different times.

Colleen

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[CTRL] [2] From Major Jordan's Diaries

1999-05-13 Thread Kris Millegan

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an excerpt from:
From Major Jordan's Diaries
George Racey Jordan©1952 All rights reserved
Western Islands
395 Concord Avenue
Belmont. Massachusetts 02178
PRINTING HISTORY
Harcourt, Brace edition published 1952
Free Enterprise edition published 1958
American Opinion edition published 1961
The Americanist Library edition published 1965
--[2]--

CHAPTER TWO
The "Bomb Powder" Folders

In my capacity as Liaison Officer, I began helping the Russians with
necessary paper work and assisted them in telephoning to the various
factories to expedite the movement of supplies to catch particular convoys. I
soon got to know Eugene Rodzevitch, the field man who visited the plants and
reported daily by phone as to possible expectations of deliveries.

As Colonel Kotikov communicated with the many different officials in the
Soviet Government Purchasing Commission, their names became more and more
familiar to me. For instance, Mr. I. A. Eremin, a member of the Commission,
was in charge of raw materials. Others were B. N. Fomin, in charge of powder
and explosives in the military division; N. S. Fomichev, assistant chief to
Mr. Eremin in the chemical division under raw materials; and A. D. Davyshev,
in charge of electric furnaces. These names appeared more and more
frequently, because we were destined to accumulate chemicals and chemical
plants in increasing intensity in the months ahead. Major General S. A.
Piskounov was chief of the aviation section, with his assistants, Colonel A.
P. Doronin, in charge of medium bombers; and Colonel G. E. Tsvetkov, in
charge of fighter pursuit planes. I got to know the latter two officers very
well.

Few of the American officers who came in casual contact with the Russians
ever got to see any of their records. But the more I helped Rodzevitch and
Colonel Kotikov, the more cordial they became. It became customary for me to
leaf through their papers to get shipping documents, and to prepare them in
folders for quick attention when they reported back to Washington.

At this time I knew nothing whatever about the atomic bomb. The words
"uranium" and "Manhattan Engineering District" were unknown to me. But I
became aware that certain folders were being held to one side on Colonel
Kotikov's desk for the accumulation of a very special chemical plant. In
fact, this chemical plant was referred to by Colonel Kotikov as a "bomb
powder" factory. By referring to my diary, and checking the items I now know
went into an atomic energy plant, I am able to show the following records
starting with the year 1942, while I was still at Newark. These materials,
which are necessary for the creation of an atomic pile, moved to Russia in
1942:

Graphite: natural, flake, lump or chip, costing American taxpayers $812,437.
Over thirteen million dollars' worth of aluminum tubes (used in the atomic
pile to "cook" or transmute the uranium into plutonium), the exact amount
being $13,041,152. We sent 834,989 pounds of cadmium metal for rods to
control the intensity of an atomic pile; the cost was $781,472. The really
secret material, thorium, finally showed up and started going through
immediately. The amount during 1942 was 13,440 pounds at a cost of $22,848.
[*] [* On Jan. 30, 1943 we shipped an additional 11,912 pounds of thorium
nitrate to Russia from Philadelphia on the S.S. John C. Fremont. It is
significant that there were no shipments in 1944 and 1945, due undoubtedly to
General Groves' vigilance. Regarding thorium. the Smyth Report (p. 5) says:
'The only natural elements which exhibit this property of emitting alpha or
beta particles are (with a few minor exceptions) those of very high atomic
numbers and mass-numbers, such as uranium, thorium, radium, and actinium
i.e., those known to have the most complicated nuclear structures."]

It was about this time that the Russians were anxious to secure more Diesel
marine engines which cost about $17,500 each. They had received around 25 on
previous shipments and were moving heaven and earth to get another 25 of the
big ones of over 200 horsepower variety. Major General John R. Deane, Chief
of our Military Mission in Moscow, had overruled the Russians' request for
any Diesel engines because General MacArthur needed them in the South
Pacific. Rut the Russians were undaunted and decided to make an issue of it
by going directly to Hopkins who overruled everyone in favor of Russia. In
the three-year period, 1942-44, a total-of 1,305 of these engines were sent
to Russia! They cost $30,745,947. The engines they had previously received
were reported by General Deane and our military observers to be rusting in
open storage. It is now perfectly obvious that these Diesels were post-war
items, not at all needed for Russia's immediate war activity.

Major General Deane, an expert on Russian Lend-Lease, has this to say in his
excellent book, The Strange Alliance, which bears the meaningful subtitle,
"The Story of Our Efforts at Wartime Cooperation with Russia":


[CTRL] [3] From Major Jordan's Diaries

1999-05-13 Thread Kris Millegan

 -Caveat Lector-

an excerpt from:
From Major Jordan's Diaries
George Racey Jordan©1952 All rights reserved
Western Islands
395 Concord Avenue
Belmont. Massachusetts 02178
PRINTING HISTORY
Harcourt, Brace edition published 1952
Free Enterprise edition published 1958
American Opinion edition published 1961
The Americanist Library edition published 1965
--[3]--

CHAPTER THREE

We Move to Montana

It was the coldest weather in 25 years when the route was mapped out. First
of all, Major General Follette Bradley flew experimentally by way of the old
gold-field airstrips of Canada. With the Russians he scratched out a route
from Great Falls through Fairbanks, Alaska and across Siberia to Kuibyshev
and Moscow. It is the coldest airway in the world across the Yukon to Alaska
and through the "Pole of Cold" in Siberia, but it worked.

Colonel (then Captain) Gardner, our trouble-shooter at Newark, was one of the
first to go ahead to Montana. Then Lieutenant Thomas J. Cockrell arrived at
Great Falls in charge of an advance cadre to make arrangements for the
housing and quartering of troops of the 7th Ferrying Group of the Air
Transport Command, which was moving from Seattle.

Gore Field was at that time known as the Municipal Airport of Great Falls.
Although it had been selected as the home of the 7th, actual construction of
barracks and other accommodations had not been started. The Great Falls Civic
Center was therefore selected as a temporary home, with headquarters,
barracks, mess-hall and other facilities combined under the roof of the huge
municipal structure. The Ice Arena was also used as a combination barracks
and messhall and temporary headquarters were established in the office of
Mayor Ed Shields and the offices of other city officials.

For nearly four months, the Civic Center remained the home of the 7th
Ferrying Group, while contractors rushed construction of the barracks,
hangars and other buildings which were to make up the post on Gore Field. The
group completed its move up to Gore Hill early in November, 1942. The 7th
Group continued to supervise all stations and operations along the Northwest
Route until November 17, 1942, when the Alaskan Wing of the Air Transport
Command was established to take over the operations of the route to the north
through Canada to Fairbanks, where hundreds of Russian pilots were waiting to
take over.

Major Alexander Cohn arrived from Spokane to establish the 34th Sub-Depot for
the Air Service Command. It was this depot that supervised the mountains of
air freight that originated from all over the United States and poured into
the funnel of this end of the Pipeline.

Colonel Gardner arranged for my transfer from Newark to Great Falls. My
orders designated me as "United Nations Representative." Few people realize
that although the United Nations Organization was not set up in San Francisco
until September, 1945, the name "United Nations" was being used in the
Lend-Lease organization as early as 1942, as in my original orders to Newark.

For the record, I want to quote my orders to Great Falls, with one phrase
italicized. One reason for this is that in 1949 the New York Times printed
the following statement of a "spokesman" for the United Nations: "Jordan
never worked for the United Nations." I thereupon took the original copy of
my orders in person to the Times, explained that this was an Army designation
as early as 1942, and asked them in fairness to run a correction (which they
did not do), since I never claimed to have "worked for the United Nations"
and their story left the impression that I was lying. Here are my orders,
with the original Army abbreviations:

Army Air Forces
Headquarters, 34th Sub Depot
Air Service Command
Office of the Commanding Officer

Capt GEORGE R. JORDAN, 0468248, AC, having re-
ported for duty this sta per Par 1, SO No. 50, AAF,
ASC, Hq New York Air Serv Port Area Comd, Newark
Airport, N.J., dated 2 January 43, is hereby asgd United
Nations Representative, 34th Sub Depot, Great Falls, Montana, effective this
date.

By order of

Lt. Colonel MEREDITH.

These official orders activating my post were preceded on January first by a
Presidential directive. This directive was addressed to the Commanding
Generals of the Air Transport, Material, and Air Service Commands, through
Colonel H. Ray Paige, Chief, International Section, Air Staff, who worked
directly under General Arnold. This directive *gave first priority for the
planes passing through our station, even over the planes of the United States
Air Force! It was extremely important in all my work. I quote the crucial
first paragraph:

HEADQUARTERS ARMY AIR
FORCES
WASHINGTON

January 1, 1943.

MEMORANDUM FOR THE COMMANDING GENERAL, AIR SERVICE COMMAND:

Subject: Movement of Russian
Airplanes.

I. The President has directed that "airplanes be delivered in accordance with
protocol schedules by the most expeditious means." To implement these
directives, the modification, equipment and movement 

[CTRL] [25] The Strange Death of FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT

1999-05-13 Thread Kris Millegan

 -Caveat Lector-

an excerpt from:
The Strange Death of FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT
A History of the Roosevelt-Delano Dynasty America's Royal Family
Emanuael M. Josephson©1948
CHEDNEY PRESS
127 East 69th Street
New York 21, N. Y.
--[25]--

CHAPTER XXV

PREDICTION OF COMING EVENTS

It is safe to predict that if any of the candidates now in the public eye, or
any prominent political figure in any of the parties, is nominated
presidential candidate, there will be no change in national policy. While lip
service will be given to democracy, and Communism berated, the Bismarxian
road to dictatorship and monarchy, will be followed steadily until every
vestige of freedom eventually is wiped out. The United States will continue
to be betrayed and sold out, and the Rockefeller Empire will be served to the
last draftee and the last American dollar.

This prediction is based on the fact that every can. didate thus far
mentioned is a hand picked agent of the Dynasty, or of the Rockefeller
Empire, or of both. Three of the Republican candidates, Robert A. Taft,
Thomas Dewey and Douglas MacArthur are derived from the Roosevelt-Delano
Dynasty, are more or less remotely related to Roosevelt, and are responsive
to the same Dynastic and Rockefeller influences. They are in ultimate
analysis, quite as completely, or more completely New Dealish, as Franklin
Delano Roosevelt himself.

Taft's relationship to Roosevelt and the Dynasty already has been related.
Like his father he is the product of the Rockefeller-dominated Ohio
Republican political machine which Mark Hanna built. Except in a few
instances, his record has revealed him to be a weak and ineffective
rubber-stamp of the New Deal who shammed an opposition that demanded nothing
more than slight modification for the record. His law firm has been attorney
and adviser, according to Danton Walker, to Jack Kroll, National Chairman of
the CIO-PAC; and apparently his record has been satisfactory to them. The
Taft-Hartley Act which bears his name, he did the best he could to emasculate
in favor of the left wing, CIO elements; and he rained a basically sound and
excellent bill drawn up by Hartley. As the Act stands, it accepts in
principle all the gross violations of the Constitution, the Bill of Rights,
justice and honesty that prevail in labor law and practice. He has served the
labor elements and apostles of class warfare well, and deserves their
gratitude and support instead of their opprobrium.

Further evidence of Taft's Marxist, New Deal mentality are to be found in his
bill to socialize medical care and in his housing bill, the
Taft-Ellender-Wagner Bill. In the latter his name is significantly coupled
with that of one of Rockefeller's principal legislative agents and the
staunchest friend of subversives, Senator Robert F. Wagner. No doubt Taft
fancies himself as a great compromiser. But principle can not be compromised.
Taft's nomination or election would bolster the Dynasty's pretensions to
hereditary rulership in the land and serve to affirm that practice so
dangerous to democracy.

Both Thomas Dewey and his wife are related to the Roosevelt-Delano clan. His
wife is reported to be a fifth cousin of President Roosevelt through
Jefferson Davis. The Rockefellers financed Dewey from the start of his career
as running mate of their agent, LaGuardia, on their left-wing Fusion ticket.
He served them well, as has been related, in diverting attention from really
important issues by his dramatic, pre-fabricated prosecution of the white
slave and "numbers" rackets. Dewey campaigned on LaGuardia's left-wing
platform and was completely in accord with his pose of radicalism and his
subserviency to the Rockefeller interests.

When he left the office of District Attorney of New York County and returned
to private practice, Dewey was retained by several labor unions including the
garment workers'. The platform on which he campaigned for the governorship of
New York was distinctly leftist and appealed to the radical and subversive
elements. He called to his side as advisers, the Labor Barons Dubinsky and
Hochman.

As Governor, Dewey had his eye on the White House. He showed a lack of
creative intelligence applied to the problems which confront the community
and the nation; and was satisfied to court both his masters, the Rockefellers
who largely financed his campaign, and the radical and labor elements who
employed him and whose vote he seeks. He is a political agent, and not of the
calibre of the statesman and leader that the nation and the world require.
His election would insure the steady advancement of the schemes of the
Dynasty and of the Rockefeller Empire for the establishment of dictatorship
and monarchy. In his presidential campaign in 1944 Dewey merely offered the
nation a more virtuous "New Deal" than that of Cousin Franklin Delano
Roosevelt. But the public were rightly sceptic when they saw the same
Rockefeller-Labor Baron sponsorship of his and Roosevelt's nominations.

General 

[CTRL] HAARP Project Background

1999-05-13 Thread David Crockett Williams

 -Caveat Lector-

 
 Background of the HAARP Project
 http://www.earthpulse.com/haarp/background.html

 Prepared by Rosalie Bertell, Ph.D., GNSH

 Military interest in space became intense during and
 after World War II because of the introduction of rocket
 science, the companion to nuclear technology. The early
 versions include the buzz bomb and guided missiles. They
 were thought of as potential carriers of both nuclear
 and conventional bombs.

 Rocket technology and nuclear weapon technology developed
 simultaneously between 1945 and 1963. During this time of
 intensive atmospheric nuclear testing, explosions at
 various levels above and below the surface of the earth
 were attempted. Some of the now familiar descriptions of
 the earth's protective atmosphere, such as the existence
 of the Van Allen belts, were based on information gained
 through stratospheric and ionospheric experimentation.

 The earth's atmosphere consists of the troposphere, from
 sea level to about 16 km above the earth's surface; the
 stratosphere (which contains the ozone level) which extends
 from about the 16 to 48 km above the earth; and the
 ionosphere which extends from 48 km to over 50,000 km above
 the surface of the earth.

 The earth's protective atmosphere or "skin" extends beyond
 3,200 km above sea level to the large magnetic fields,
 called the Van Allen Belts, which can capture the charged
 particles sprayed through the cosmos by the solar and
 galactic winds. These belts were discovered in 1958 during
 the first weeks of the operation of America's first
 satellite, Explorer I. They appear to contain charged
 particles trapped in the earth's gravity and magnetic
 fields. Primary galactic cosmic rays enter the solar
 system from interstellar space, and are made up of
 protons with energies above 100 MeV, extending up to
 astronomically high energies. They make up about 100
 percent of the high energy rays. Solar rays are
 generally of lower energy, below 20 MeV (which is
 still high energy in earth terms). These high energy
 particles are affected by the earth's magnetic field
 and by geomagnetic latitude (distance above or below
 the geomagnetic equator). The flux density of low
 energy protons at the top of the atmosphere is
 normally greater at the poles than at the equator.
 The density also varies with solar activity, being
 at a minimum when solar flares are at a minimum.

 The Van Allen belts capture charged particles (protons,
 electrons and alpha particles) and these spiral along
 the magnetic force lines toward the polar regions
 where the force lines converge. They are reflected
 back and forth between the magnetic force lines near
 the poles. The lower Van Allen Belt is about 7700 km
 above the earth's surface, and the outer Van Allen Belt
 is about 51,500 km above the surface. According to the
 Encyclopedia Britannica, the Van Allen belts are most
 intense along the equator, and effectively absent over
 the poles. They dip to 400 km over the South Atlantic
 Ocean, and are about 1,000 km high over the Central
 Pacific Ocean. In the lower Van Allen Belt, the proton
 intensity is about 20,000 particles with energy above
 30 MeV per second per square centimeter. Electrons reach
 a maximum energy of 1 MeV, and their intensity has a
 maximum of 100 million per second per square centimeter.
 In the outer Belt, proton energy averages only 1 MeV.
 For compar-ison, most charged particles discharged in a
 nuclear explosion range between 0.3 and 3 MeV, while
 diagnostic medical X-ray has peak voltage around 0.5 MeV.

 Project Argus (1958)

 Between August and September 1958, the US Navy exploded
 three fission type nuclear bombs 480 km above the South
 Atlantic Ocean, in the part of the lower Van Allen Belt
 closest to the earth's surface. In addition, two
 hydrogen bombs were detonated 160 km over Johnston
 Island in the Pacific. The military called this "the
 biggest scientific experiment ever undertaken." It was
 designed by the US Department of Defense and the US
 Atomic Energy Commission, under the code name Project
 Argus. The purpose appears to be to assess the impact
 of high altitude nuclear explosions on radio
 transmission and radar operations because of the
 electromagnetic pulse (EMP), and to increase
 understanding of the geomagnetic field and the behavior
 of the charged particles in it.

 This gigantic experiment created new (inner) magnetic
 radiation belts encompassing almost the whole earth,
 and injected sufficient electrons and other energetic
 particles into the ionosphere to cause world wide
 effects. The electrons traveled back and forth along
 magnetic force lines, causing an artificial "aurora"
 when striking the atmosphere near the North Pole.

 The US Military planned to create a "telecommunications
 shield" in the ionosphere, reported in 13-20 August
 1961, Keesings Historisch Archief (K.H.A.). This shield
 would be created "in the ionosphere at 3,000 km height,

[CTRL] Fwd: S99-77, Day 51, Update 2 (May 13; 2:30PM EDT) - A Special TiM GW Bulletin on NATO's

1999-05-13 Thread Kris Millegan






FROM PHOENIX, ARIZONA

The Special Truth in Media Global Watch Bulletins on NATO's war on Serbia,
such as the one enclosed below, can also be accessed at our Web site:
www.truthinmedia.org which is being updated throughout the day.

Issue S99-77, Day 51, Update 2
--
May 13, 1999; 2:30PM EDT

HEADLINES

Bielefeld  1. German Greens Paint Leader Red

New York2. Holocaust Survivors to Protest NATO's War;
Clinton Pitches Holocaust Analogy to
Veterans

Vicenza   3. Bomb Central Belgrade Bridges, Urges an
American General

Belgrade  4. NATO Lost 70 Aircraft So Far Claims YU Army
Magazine ("Vojska")

Sydney5. Albanian Refugee Sexually Assaults Australian
Translator

Athens 6. Greece Denies NATO Use of Its Air Space

--

1. German Greens Paint Leader Red

BIELEFELD, May 13 - Angry delegates of the German Greens party pelted their
leader today with red paint at the start of a party congress in a protest
against Joschka Fischer's support of NATO's war on Serbia.  The Greens are
coalition partners in Gerhard Schroeder's government in which Fischer
serves as foreign minister.

The demonstrator who threw red paint at Fischer was expelled by the guards.
 But another one paraded in front of the head table stark naked. Stunned
and furious, Fischer wiped the paint from his face and neck with a paper
towel.

Outside the conference hall, peace protesters formed a human chain around
the building to prevent delegates from entering, chanting slogans and
waving pictures of Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder and Foreign Minister
Joschka Fischer with Hitler mustaches, the Associated Press reported today.

An angry and impassioned Fischer urged his party to support NATO, hinting
that he would quit if delegates backed the cease-fire. A German government
collapse would be a blow to NATO unity. Schroeder and Fischer have
staunchly supported the war since the start of the bombing on March 24.

But the German foreign minister's warmongering stance is particularly
puzzling, not only because he is a leader of a pacifist party, but also in
light of the revelation which TiM has just received from German source that
Fischer is actually a Jew who was born in Novi Sad, Serbia.  As you saw
from an earlier TiM Bulletin, Novi Sad is the place where NATO bombs have
just destroyed a Holocaust memorial (see S99-74, Day 49, Update 2, Item 5,
May 11).

But it was a leading pacifist, Annelie Buntenbach, who received big cheers
and a standing ovation after attacking the "spiral of escalation'' by NATO
and declaring: 'War is not an option'. Stopping the bombing is a
precondition for giving diplomacy a chance,'' she said. "After seven weeks,
I must ask what this war has achieved."
---
TiM Ed.: Cheers and a standing ovation for an anti-war speaker only go to
show us that alienation between party leaders and the party congress is not
only a U.S., but a global New World Order phenomenon.  Somewhere along
their climb to power, politicians manage to shed whatever morals, humanity
or ethnicity they had when they started the ascent.
---

2. Holocaust Survivors to Protest NATO's War; Clinton Pitches Holocaust
Analogy to Support War

NEW YORK, May 13 - We've just received word that the Jewish Holocaust
survivors are planning an anti-NATO war protest later on today in New York.
 The demonstration will be held at 6:00PM (EDT) at the Isaiah Wall, on E.43
Street and 1st Avenue, across from the United Nations.

The Jewish organizers say that every Jew has good reasons to oppose the
bloodshed in Serbia. "The Serbs in Kosovo were staunch allies to the Jews
against the Nazis in WWII, and the same unreasonable force being used by
NATO to force the Serbs to relinquish sovereignty over Kosovo could be used
against Jerusalem tomorrow," organizers said.

In light of the above protest, it is pathetically ironic that Bill Clinton
today tried to use the Holocaust analogy seeking support for his war on
Serbia.  He compared Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic's campaign of
ethnic cleansing with the Holocaust.

Speaking to about 200 Veterans of Foreign Wars members at the National
Defense University at Fort McNair, Clinton called the Serb campaign in
Kosovo"an attack ... on the dignity of all people," according to an
Associated Press report.  "Though his (Milosevic's) ethnic cleansing is not
the same as the ethnic extermination of the Holocaust, the two are related
- both vicious, premeditated, systematic oppression, fueled by religious
and ethnic hatred," Clinton said.

White House press secretary Joe Lockhart tried to put a pro-veterans spin
on Clinton's speech.  Lockhart said Clinton wanted to acknowledge that the
veterans "know something about standing up for the right thing" and assure
them that he intended to persevere against 

[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] FW: UNDERNEWS May 11

1999-05-13 Thread Kris Millegan





From: "Mike Ruppert" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

TWA 800 conspiracy, the Bilderberger's, CIA and drugs, a Maxine Waters,
Volume II sellout? All of this in The Progressive Review from two days ago.

I have underlined the part about Volume II.

The Progressive Review!?

The publisher of the Progressive Review - Sam Smith was at my lecture at the
home of Catherine Austin Fitts, the former Assistant Secretary of Housing
for George Bush, in Washington D.C. on May 3.

The government is imploding. Throw away your maps of left and right in this
country.

Catherine forwarded this to me with the following message.

Sam has picked up on the Volume II story and the Impeachmentreference
again today. Interesting coverage of TWA 800.
-Original Message-
From:   The Progressive Review [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Tuesday, May 11, 1999 10:30 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:UNDERNEWS May 11


UNDERNEWS
By Sam Smith
May 11, 1999

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WORD
They were careless people-they smashed up things and creatures and then
retreated into their money or their vast carelessness or whatever it was
that kept them together, and let other people clean up the mess they had
made.-F Scott Fitzgerald
Here's enough of fame and pillage,
Great commander Jane!
Now that we've been round the village,
Let's go home again.

* From a Child's Garden of Verses by Robert Lewis Stevenson, retrieved by
Anne Heutte
People invented money as a medium of exchange to simplify trade. Now private
banks issue notes, created from nothing, as money. Governments impose taxes
to pay the interest on the notes. This public debt-money is then subject to
unequal distribution, scarcity, exchange costs, devaluation, inflation,
deflation and speculation. Included as security for the debt is the value of
Gross National Product that exploits labor and destroys the natural
environment. These conditions to the utility of money complicate trade.
Moreover they mandate the usury, consumerism, ecocide and wars that destroy
the quality and diversity of life."-John Pozzi
DEMOCRATS IN TROUBLE
George Bush has moved into comfortable territory in California,
Massachusetts, and Michigan polls and has a 3 to 1 lead in electoral votes
based on our survey data. While Dubya is riding heavily on his unknownness,
the surveys still show a striking weakness for Gore. In the Senate, the GOP
could have two new seats with two races too close to call. And contrary to
his media-based boomlet, Bradley continues to run far behind Gore. In New
Hampshire for example, a survey found almost twice as many Democrats having
a favorable impression of Gore as they did of Bradley. One bright spot for
the Dems in the Senate: a late poll puts Spencer Abraham only 2 points ahead
of Debbie Stabenow. This in a state where Bush outpolls Gore by 12 points.
TPR'S MORNING LINE http://prorev.com/amline.htm
TWA 800 CRASH
The latest developments in the TWA 800 indicate that for some period of
time, the FBI, CIA and BATF had dramatically different views of what
happened in the crash. The FBI is now being blamed for not having quickly
accepted the view prescribed by the CIA, BATF, NTSB and much of the media,
namely that the crash was due to structural faults, pursuing instead the
still highly likely possibility that the plane was brought down by a
missile.
The current extraordinary public attack on the FBI for having considered the
missile theory is another sign of growing institutional anarchy in
Washington. As generals take swipes at the White House for its Kosovo
disaster and the military blames the CIA for bad targeting information, one
gets the sense of being in the middle of the most dangerous game of office
politics ever played.
There are new rules. Consider, for example, that one hour after the House of
Representatives voted to conduct the impeachment inquiry, the CIA released
the declassified version of Volume II of the investigation into agency
dealings with drug traffickers, a report that seriously implicated the
Republican predecessors of Clinton. There are few if any parallels for such
a direct, high-level CIA interference in domestic politics.
Regarding the TWA 800 mystery, are some key points to keep in mind:
The open controversy is a sign of highly unstable leadership not 

[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] The Guilty Flee Where No One Pursueth

1999-05-13 Thread Kris Millegan





From: "Mike Ruppert" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 May 13th, 1999 11:30 A.M.

I just hung up  from talking to one of my loyal subscribers to From The
Wilderness. It seems that after reading my stories on the Impeachment and
how Bill Clinton traded Vol. II of the CIA Inspector general's Drug Report
to save his rear end he decided that it made more sense than anything else
he had read all year. It fit.

So he drafted about six strong letters and sent them out, on April 13th, to
various politicians including Maxine Waters. April 13th  was one month ago.
On May 1st I spoke on the South Lawn of the White House to a bunch of very
conservative Clinton haters and explained exactly why Clinton survived the
impeachment and won the crowd and the day.

It's about maps. I am offering a road map that gives the people a match with
what they see when they look up and compare it to the terrain around them.

How right was I? Well, just about thirty minutes ago, Mike Murase, Maxine
Waters' LA Office Director called up my subscriber and said that the story I
wrote was not true, Maxine Waters hadn't sold out and that "Mike Ruppert was
not the guru of conspiracy theories!"

What was odd is that the guy who wrote the letter lives more than sixty
miles outside of Maxine's Congressional District, is white and not involved
in local politics. Why are they trying so hard to kill the story?

Wait until they start reading what we are finding out about HUD in Los
Angeles and the drug money generated by CIA's trafficking in the May issue
of my newsletter, From The Wilderness, which comes out (for subscribers
only) the end of next week.


Shameless self promotion? Sure. But when you see the story you'll say it was
OK and worth it. I don't do this very often.

Mike Ruppert
www.copvcia.com




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[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: Sherman Skolnick Sounds Off!!

1999-05-13 Thread Kris Millegan





Please send as far and wide as possible.

Thanks,

Robert Sterling
Editor, The Konformist
http://www.konformist.com
http://www.konformist.com/skolnick/skolnick.htm
http://www.konformist.com/skolnick/1999/ss042799.htm
http://www.konformist.com/skolnick/1999/ss042999.htm
http://www.konformist.com/skolnick/1999/ss050999.htm

Sherman Skolnick Sounds Off!!

FeedBack: Sherman Skolnick- paranoid schizophrenic
Date:   Sunday, May 02, 1999 03:21:59 AM

Surely Sherman Skolnick is a paranoid schizophrenic. His rants are the
ravings of a lunatic psychotic. All things to him revolve around Chicago and
his little bizrre world. Skolnick v. Hillary Clinton--come-on.
I doubt that you will have the balls to post this.

no I don't think it will be because of a conspiracy between paranoid
schizophrenic Sherman Skolnick and the Rockefellers.

Jethro


Sherman H. Skolnick
Recorded phone message: (773) 731-1100
Office, 8 A.M. to midnight, 7 days: (773) 375-5741
9800 So. Oglesby Ave., Chicago IL 60617-4870

04-27-1999
Plot to Assassinate Slobodan Milosevic
By Sherman H. Skolnick
Producer/Moderator, Public Access Cable TV Program "Broadsides"
Since 1963, Founder/Chairman, Citizen's Committee to Clean Up the Courts
To help a proposed ground war. Or, to make a ground war unnecessary. In
either case, the secret forces of the West are plotting to assassinate
Slobodan Milosevic.
Background: in the late 1980s, the American CIA created Milosevic. Like other
Frankenstein's Monsters, he turned on his creator. Others did the same:
Saddam Hussein, the Iraqi strongman; Fidel Castro of Cuba; Panama's Manuel
Noriega.
Milosevic became an outspoken nationalist, appealing to the masses in a
country long over-run by huge foreign powers. Serbia for the Serbians! was
the substance of his slogans. Some fail to adequately explain how World War
One started.  The royals of the then powerful Austro-Hungarian Empire had the
bad sense and timing to visit Sarajevo on a local national patriotic holiday.
The royal bigwig and his wife were assassinated. The Austro-Hungarian moguls
insisted on intervening in Serbia's internal affairs to supposedly
investigate the murders. The rest is the blood-stained history, 1914 to 1918.
Has the example of 1914 been lost on the United States, intervening on the
internal affairs of Serbia? Now, by way of intervening in Serbia, the
American CIA has a scheme both simple and diabolical. A journalist known for
being both outspoken and independent is to finally get an exclusive interview
with Milosevic in the presence of a Peace Delegation from the U.S.
Unknowingly, the journalist and the Peace Delegation are to be the pilot
laser fish, guiding U.S. missiles right to and at Milosevic.  The journalist,
not an establishment type at al, is to be thrown away --- blown away,
actually --- in the process of the political assassination of the Serb leader.
Some suspect a somewhat similar bloody trick was involved when CIA-darling
Larry King, of the spy agency's creations Ted Turner and CNN, lured the
Minister of Information of Serbia to do a live satellite hook up with Larry
King through the Radio Television Serbia facility in Belgrade. The Serb
official arrived near the RTS Building and was horrified, just as the U.S.
missiles struck. If he arrived a few moments earlier Larry King would have
his world exclusive --- a Serb official and a Serb Radio-TV facility both
blasted to bits for the entertainment of war-mongers and apathetic viewers.
Those planning to take me, a known independent journalist, in my wheelchair,
to meet Slobodan Milosevic, are well-meaning and innocent. Note to CIA
bastards:  I uncovered your dirty trick just in time. I am not going to be
the patsy and pilot fish, to be thrown away, in your bloody scheme to
intervene in the sovereign state affairs of Serbia, or any nation, by
political assassinations. All, to further the New World Disorder. Stay tuned.


Sherman H. Skolnick
Recorded phone message: (773) 731-1100
Office, 8 A.M. to midnight, 7 days: (773) 375-5741
9800 So. Oglesby Ave., Chicago IL 60617-4870

04-29-1999
Establishment Swipes Our Exclusive Story About Serbs Having ICBMs
By Sherman H. Skolnick
Producer/Moderator, Public Access Cable TV Program "Broadsides"
Since 1963, Founder/Chairman, Citizen's Committee to Clean Up the Courts

Several weeks ago we did our exclusive story: that their former patrons, the
former Soviet Union, secretly and in highly concealed places in Serbia, left
the Serbs missiles capable of reaching the U.S. such as the U.S. capitol,
Washington. Now notice the following report by Joseph Farah, distributed
through WorldNetDaily, with crosslinks to The Drudge Report, about matters in
the Balkans. Farah's story was on or about 4/29/99, some 2 weeks after OUR
exclusive story --- which they claim is NOW THEIR EXCLUSIVE STORY.

"In fact, recently placed sources tell me members of Congress received
classified briefing strongly suggesting the Serbs have inter-continental
ballistic missiles 

[CTRL] National ID Card Is Now Federal Law

1999-05-13 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://www.jubilee-newspaper.com/id_card_95.htm
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National ID Card Is Now Federal Law


Cyndee Parker


n September of 1996, President Clinton signed into law, the Illegal
Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996. Buried at
approximately page 650 of the new national Defense Bill, also known as
Public Law 104-208, Part B, Title IV, the American public was given a
national ID card. With no fanfare, no publicity and no scrutiny, the
bill easily avoided the watchful eyes of even its most aggressive
opponents.

The Coalition to Repeal the Fingerprints Law, a Georgia grassroots
movement trying to rid the state of the new requirement to give digital
fingerprints in order to obtain a state ID or driver's license, recently
discovered the national ID tie. The group found that the national law
not only mandates a national ID card, but found how it is to be used.

In Section 401-403, pilot programs have been initiated by the U.S.
Attorney General, one of which is the “Machine Readable Document Pilot
Program.” In this particular program, employers would have to “procure”
a document reader linked to the federal government's Social Security
Administration in order to have the potential employee swipe their new
driver's license/national ID card through the reader. Then, it would be
up to the federal government to either approve or disapprove the
applicant for employment.

Section 326 and 327 provide $5,000,000 per year grants to each state
participating in any of the three pilot programs. The money has been
allocated through the Criminal Alien Tracking Center and is called the
Criminal Alien Identification System. The “automated identification
system,” which is to be used by “Federal, State, and local law
enforcement” and will “provide for recording of fingerprints of aliens
previously arrested and removed.” The grants run from “fiscal years 1997
through 2001.”

Additionally, Section 656 of the new law states that “after October 1,
2000, Federal agencies may only accept as proof of identity driver's
licenses that conform to standards developed by the Secretary of the
Treasury,” after consultation with state motor vehicle officials and the
American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators. The AAMVA sees
digital fingerprinting as the best way to go in driver's license
identifiers.

Fearing that all Americans were about to be digitally tattooed under the
government's paranoiac guise of catching everything from aliens to dead
beat dads, Congressman Dick Armey (R-TX) was one of the first to voice
his opinion. Armey called the move, “an abomination and wholly at odds
with the American tradition of individual freedom.” Senator Spencer
Abraham (R-MI) joined Armey in signing a letter denouncing the computer
registry and tracking system and Jack Kemp announced in the New York
Times that this was, “an anti-privacy, anti-business and anti-American
approach” and that “it was no way to run immigration policy.” Of course,
all this was said before the bills were snuck through in the last
defense bill. There is a possibility at this time, they don't even know
the proposed legislation became law.

For the first time in American history and reminiscent of Communist
countries, our government would have the ability to grant approval
before a private company enters into private employment contracts with
private citizens. Because of the nature of the employment system alone,
personal information would be accessible to local agencies and anyone
who even claims to be an employer. The government would have
comprehensive files of all American citizen's names, dates of birth,
place of birth, mother's maiden names, Social Security numbers, gender,
race, driving records, child support payments, divorce status, hair
color, eye color, height, weight, and anything else they may dream up in
the future.

On May 10, 1995, a hearing was held by the Senate Subcommittee on
Immigration entitled, “Verification of Applicant Identity for the
Purposes of Employment and Public Assistance.” The hearing was chaired
by Senator Alan Simpson (R-WY) and attended by Senators Ted Kennedy
(D-MA), Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), and John Kyl (R-AZ). Robert Razor of
the Secret Service Financial Crimes Division gave the Subcommittee an
explanation of the emerging biometric technological role in personal
identification. He said, “The use of biometrics is the means by which an
individual may be conclusively identified. There are two types of
biometric 

Re: [CTRL] CIA Screws Up Again (And Again, And Again--)

1999-05-13 Thread Theodor Parada, MD

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A map of Belgrade from 1997 shows that the spot where the new Chinese
embassy is(was)located was an empty lot. They're lieing and if you haven't
figured that out, you deserve what you have. Check it out!!!

http://www.stratfor.com/crisis/kosovo/specialreports/special67.htm?section=3

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Re: [CTRL] Aspartame Causes

1999-05-13 Thread DIG Jeremy Combs

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I read an email about the dangers of aspartame awhile age, and what
interested me was this exert:

(note: author was Nancy Markle)
 Aspartame Disease is partially the cause to what is behind some of the
mystery of the Desert Storm health problems. The burning tongue and other
problems discussed in over 60 cases can be directly related to the
consumption of an aspartame product. Several thousand pallets of diet drinks
were shipped to the Desert Storm troops (remember heat can liberate the
methanol from the aspartame at 86 degrees F). Diet drinks satin the 120
degree F Arabian sun for weeks at a time on pallets. The service men and
women drank them all day long. All of their symptoms are identical to
aspartame poisoning. Dr. Roberts says "Consuming aspartame at the time of
conception can cause birth defects." The phenylalanine concentrates in the
placenta, causing mental retardation, according to Dr. Louis Elsas,
Pediatrician Professor - Genetics, at Emory University in his testimony
before Congress.

This interested me because i was studying GWS (gulf war syndrome) but i don't
think that aspartame is the cause.

Odysseus
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In a message dated 05/10/1999 11:21:29 AM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

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 Exert from
 http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/chem.htm
 These are from a data base that I am doing for my web site.
 I have seen this post shot down as a hoax, so I offer this
 links in rebuttal of some that would say Aspartame is not
 hazardous and support of this post. Nancy Markel was
 NOT the original author, but overall the post is on track.
 Another point is that Aspartame is suppose to Mimic MS
 ect., I personally am not interested in something that even
Mimics diseases such as this post describes! Please
 remember that much of the research that is out there
 (and that some sites cite - FDA included) saying that
  Aspartame is NOT hazardous comes from the very
 company that makes Aspartame.  From these links
 you wonder how anyone is capable of having nutritious
 food, and think of the developing bodies and brains of
 children. These will allow you to
 research on your own.


 Lloyd Miller wrote:

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  -Original Message-
  From: Sean Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Sunday, February 07, 1999 11:48 PM
  Subject: [afs] HEAL: Aspartame
 
  -
  Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 19:43:51 -0800
  From: darryl avec une d [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Sean Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: re: aspartame
  
   ubject: FYI
  
   Subject: URGENT: World Conference Warned about
   Aspartame
   Date:  Fri, 11 Dec 1998 22:39:00 EST
  
   WORLD ENVIRONMENTAL CONFERENCE and the MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS
   FOUNDATION
   FDA ISSUING FOR COLLUSION WITH MONSANTO
  
   Article written by Nancy Markle (1120197)
  
   I have spent several days lecturing at the WORLD
   ENVIRONMENTAL CONFERENCE on "ASPARTAME marketed as 'NutraSweet',
  'Equal',
   and
   'Spoonful"'. In  the keynote address by the EPA, they announced
   that there was an epidemic of multiple sclerosis and systemic lupus,
  and
   they did not understand what toxin was causing this to be rampant
  across the
   United States. I explained that I was there to lecture on exactly
  that
   subject.
  
   When the temperature of Aspartame exceeds 86 degrees F, the wood
   alcohol in ASPARTAME coverts to formaldehyde and then to formic
   acid, which in turn causes metabolic acidosis. (Formic acid is the
  poison
   found in the sting of fire ants). The methanol toxicity mimics
  multiple
   sclerosis; thus people were being diagnosed with having multiple
  sclerosis
   in
   error. The multiple sclerosis is not a death sentence, where methanol
   toxicity is.
  
   In the case of systemic lupus, we are finding it has become almost as
   rampant as multiple sclerosis, especially Diet Coke and Diet
   Pepsi drinkers. Also, with methanol toxicity, the victims usually
   drink three to four 12 oz. Cans of them per day, some even more. In
  the
   cases
   of systemic lupus, which is triggered by ASPARTAME, the victim
  usually does
   not know that the aspartame is the culprit.  The victim continues its
  use
   aggravating the lupus to such a degree, that sometimes it becomes
  life
   threatening.
  
   When we get people off the aspartame, those with systemic
   lupus usually become asymptomatic. Unfortunately, we can not reverse
   this disease.  On the other hand, in the case of those diagnosed with
   Multiple Sclerosis, (when in reality, the disease is methanol
  toxicity),
   most of the symptoms disappear. We have seen cases where their vision
  has
   returned and even their hearing has returned. This also applies to
  cases of
   tinnitus.
  
   During a lecture I said "If you are using ASPARTAME
   (NutraSweet, Equal, Spoonful, etc.), and you suffer from fibromyalgia
   symptoms, spasms, shooting pains, numbness 

[CTRL] U.S.'s plan??

1999-05-13 Thread DIG Jeremy Combs

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I was wondering, when some of our (as in the US) supplies from other nations
that aren't Y2K compliant stop coming in, what is the US Government's plan to
do then??

Odysseus
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Re: [CTRL] Will the Vatican Control Britain's State Religion ?

1999-05-13 Thread John Wright

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Bizarre but truthful

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[CTRL] Champaign Warehouse Fire Was Arson? (fwd)

1999-05-13 Thread Brian Redman

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CHAMPAIGN WAREHOUSE FIRE WAS ARSON?
===

(CNNS: Champaign, Illinois; 05/13/99) -- A  late  afternoon  fire
which  destroyed a lumber supply warehouse in this small city may
have been due to arson.

Authorities  and local news media in this heartland community are
guardedly allowing that "arson has not been ruled out."

Local fire department spokesperson  Eddie Bain, after being asked
whether arson possibly caused the blaze, reportedly replied, "Any
time you have a fire that burns that fast, and fully involves the
building, that's always a concern."

Further raising suspicions that  the  conflagration was due to an
underworld "torch job" are the facts,  as  stated  in  the  local
newspaper,  that the building was leased to a local lumber supply
company which had already  pretty  well vacated the premises.  At
the time of  the  suspicious  fire,  only  a  few  truckloads  of
supplies yet remained in the building.

According to one witness,  "the  building  was  pretty much of an
eyesore... pretty dilapidated."

Thus there is a clear motive on why disreputable  characters  may
have  been  hired  to torch the crumbling warehouse.  Why pay big
bucks for a demolition crew,  when  a  sudden fire will save such
costs and even possibly garner a profit, due  to  fire  insurance
benefits?

But  this  possibility  is only whispered in this small city, and
local news media are unlikely to disrupt the bovine consciousness
of Champaign, Illinois.

--
CNNS  (Conspiracy  Nation  News  Service)  is an INDEPENDENT news
outlet, not owned by anyone.  (But  of course, we would say that,
wouldn't we?) BEWARE THE CFR! BEWARE THE CIA! BEWARE THE KNIGHTS!
http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html
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Re: [CTRL] National ID Card Is Now Federal Law

1999-05-13 Thread Colleen Jones

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Well, well.Madeline Albright would have to give this information out
too and then we would all know of her jewish background which she has
denied.

We would know who all the bastards are, and who did not have a father;
we would now who might have some, well, black blood.you know to this
day, the KKK puts out propaganda that J. Edgar Hoover and Eleanor
Roosevelt were blackwell, not that that matters.

Now what do we label nexthomosexuals and pervertswho the hell do
these people think they are.

Does Bill Clinton now who his father was; what would be on his birth
certificate?  What about Gerald Ford, whose real name was Leslie King
supposedly, and then he had a brother named Leslie King - what were they
- two of them perhap.

Next we will have doctor's records; now, I do think we should all know
if someone had some VD; you know that is what the one secret society
said Clinton had and was trying to conceal - andn is it true he had some
plastic surgery recently - just before going to Court Paul Jonesor
was that just a hamstring accident as they said.

Yes, I want to know all about these people; their IQ, their bank
account, who has a jewish background, or a black background, mixed
blood..maybe we all have a little secret we do not want anyone to
know.after all, who really cares?

No - come out of the closet all you homosexuals - they say the coast is
clear; but just try it, Barney Frank and see how you are made to look
more perverted than our lying, cowardly President.

Oh yes, we should have draft dodgers names on thise ID's.go all the
way, and put on the criminal records in particular, say about the
Franklin County Clerk of Court who stole $400,000.mostly from poor
people, but tht is still small time compared - oh yes, let us not forget
the genocide being performed.

Lets do a job on the ID cardsbut not me.never, will I carry an
ID card that maybe holds a little secret, I would not want anyone to
know.

Did HIlliary have an affair with Vince Foster; make her take a lie
detector test; tht is adultery, and brand her card with a big red
Was - or is tht big red Aand Clinton, well a big SS for him -
sodomist and Storm Trooper would be ok with me.

Lets get them all on the public record - not just the poor worker who
has to pay for all this crapby the way, who is going to print ll
those ID's an check out all this information.

Colleen

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[CTRL] Int'l Views

1999-05-13 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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From Slate.CoM

international papers

Let's Blame Bill

By Alexander Chancellor


The frustration of the bellicose British press at the half-hearted
pursuit of the war in Kosovo vented itself Wednesday in an
editorial in the Times attacking President Clinton, who, it said,
has "proved his absolute inadequacy as a Commander-in-Chief,
stumbling on a stage that is bigger than his talents can match and
performing with hesitancy, frailty and fear." It added, "[T]his war
will not be serious until Mr Clinton listens to the Pentagon,
rather than the latest opinion poll. He has never countenanced a
campaign plan; and in the absence of one, even air power has been
misapplied. ... Mr Clinton has retreated into the semantic
ambiguities for which his presidency has become infamous." The
editorial concluded that "[f]or Nato, for European peace and for
Britain, the true, high reckoning begins: it is called failure."

The Daily Telegraph led its front page Wednesday with a report that
both Clinton and British Prime Minister Tony Blair were struggling
"to hold back a growing tide of criticism of their leadership of
the Kosovo conflict." Along with other papers, the Telegraph
reported cracks in British bipartisan support for the NATO
offensive. In an article in the Telegraph, the Conservative Party
spokesman on foreign affairs, Michael Howard, called for the
establishment of a committee of inquiry into the war and the
"diplomatic failures" that preceded it. Howard described the
bombing of the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade as "an act of gross
incompetence." He said, "To use outdated street maps for an
operation of this kind beggars belief."

The liberal Guardian led Wednesday on "gloom" in NATO as China and
Russia hardened their demands for a halt to airstrikes before they
will agree to support peace moves in the United Nations. Having
consistently urged the use of ground forces, the paper finally
recognized in an editorial that "the possibility of a ground attack
has dwindled." It said that the British and the French have been
willing to do their bit but that Clinton "could not muster the
will, or lacks the necessary political weight, to commit the United
States to ground action." The central issue now, it said, is that
"NATO forces, acting for the Kosovo Albanians, must have
preponderant physical power on the ground, whatever the formalities
of status may be." The liberal Independent's front-page lead spoke
of "an unmistakable whiff of panic and confusion in the West's
councils of war."

There was gloom on the continent as well. Le Monde of Paris led its
front page Wednesday with the headline "Kosovo emptied of half its
population" and said in an editorial that President Slobodan
Milosevic knows--"because we have been at pains to tell him"--that
he need not fear a land offensive, and he knows the limits of the
air bombardments. "He can, at his leisure, test the unity and
determination of the allies," it added. "One way or another, it is
always he who holds the cards." On Tuesday, the Greek daily Ta Nea
published a leaked NATO document warning that Albania, Montenegro,
and Macedonia are in imminent danger of economic and political
collapse because of the Kosovo crisis. The displacement of nearly
600,000 Kosovar refugees threatens to destabilize the entire
region, it said. The "restricted" memo, dated April 29, was
reported to have been sent by NATO Secretary-General Javier Solana
to the alliance's 19 member states last week.

With only five days to go before voting in the Israeli general
election, the government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is
reported to be reconciled to defeat. The main headline Wednesday in
the daily Maariv quoted Netanyahu as saying, "I'll apparently
lose." One senior Likud Party official told Yediot Aharanot, "We
don't have many good reasons to be optimistic." Meanwhile, two more
public opinion polls showed that Labor Party and One Israel leader
Ehud Barak is moving inexorably ahead. The Jerusalem Post led
Wednesday on Netanyahu deciding, because of the polls, to take
personal charge of Likud's TV advertising campaign.

Ha'aretz led on Defense Minister Moshe Arens accepting the
possibility of a Palestinian state. He reportedly said that recent
developments have made territorial compromise inevitable. The
Jerusalem correspondent of the Independent of London described the
hatred among different religious and ethnic communities that has
surfaced during the Israeli election campaign. In one TV debate,
Yusef Lapid, a Holocaust survivor and founder of the Shinui Party
which seeks to reduce the influence of ultra-Orthodox Jews,
challenged Eli Suissa, the ultra-Orthodox interior minister, with
the words: "Maybe you'd like to put me in a concentration camp?" To
this Suissa replied, "You've already been in a concentration camp
and you didn't learn your lesson."

The firing of Russian Prime Minister Yevgeny Primakov by Boris
Yeltsin two days before impeachment proceedings against the

[CTRL] Logistics, Policy, Purpose

1999-05-13 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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From www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/133/oped

How to mount a ground war in the Balkans

By Bernard E. Trainor, 05/13/99



Pictureespite the G-7 and Russian proposal to solve the Kosovo
crisis, Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic is not willing to
consider it without a halt to the bombing. This would allow him to
string out negotiations while he finishes his dirty work free of air
attacks. Moreover, there is no indication that the air campaign is
bringing him to heel. If he remains obdurate and turns a deaf ear to
a negotiated settlement on other than his own terms, NATO must
consider the use of ground forces.

White House denials to the contrary, the failure of NATO strategy
thus far keeps the topic alive. If, in the long run, NATO does decide
to look for a solution on the ground, there are basically two
choices. One makes the clearest military sense, if success is defined
as a quick and clear victory, but it has daunting political
implications. The other achieves a more limited goal, but is
militarily complicated.

The option most frequently discussed publicly would see NATO ground
troops come into Kosovo from either Macedonia or Albania or both.
This option has the advantage of dealing directly with the problem at
hand and conforms with the current limited NATO goals of returning
displaced Kosovar Albanians to their homes and protecting them from
further attacks.

To mount such an operation into Kosovo, NATO needs a far larger and
more heavily equipped force than the 12,000 troops currently in
Macedonia, who were to be peacekeepers under the Rambouillet
agreement. Half measures in Kosovo, such as carving out a ''safe
haven'' for the Kosovar Albanians with the small NATO forces at hand
in Macedonia could be foolhardy as it would make the enclave an easy
target for Serb artillery and ground attacks despite allied air
supremacy. However, wars are not won or lost solely with numbers.

There is an old military saying that applies: ''Amateurs talk
strategy, professionals talk logistics.'' The logistics in this case
are particularly demanding and it could take months to prepare an
attack from the south. Because of the mountain remoteness and lack of
infrastructure in the region, military engineers would have to build
and improve roads and bridges before NATO forces were capable of more
than token intervention into Kosovo. Even if Macedonia agreed to
allow heavy NATO reinforcements to stage on its territory and the
Greeks permitted their transit (not a certain thing), there is only
one decent road running from the port of entry in Salonika in Greece
to Skopje in Macedonia.

Albania presents even greater geographical and logistic obstacles.
Its border with Kosovo consists of rugged mountains, with only one
primitive road at Kukes passing through them to Kosovo. Albania's
capital, Tirana, has the largest airfield in the country, but it is
inadequate for heavy military traffic. Its two ports at Durres and
Shengjin cannot be used to move large amounts supplies and equipment
quickly.

A long, slow buildup of forces for an offensive out of either Albania
or Macedonia could lead to a winter campaign, which NATO certainly
does not want as it would sorely degrade allied air support. While
the lengthy buildup proceeded, the Yugoslavian army would have ample
time to reinforce its 43,000 soldiers and paramilitaries already in
Kosovo and to build defenses. They would also be secure in the
knowledge that when their defenses were breached they always had the
option of retreating into Serbia and dragging the war out.

While the Macedonia military option fails to challenge Milosevic's
power directly, political leaders may find it acceptable because it
is limited in scope and nature, but military logic runs against it.

When it comes to military planning, the quickest way to victory is
not always a straight line. Yugoslavia's geography offers NATO
planners another military option, but at a much higher political
risk. It would require NATO to abandon limiting its goal of returning
and protecting the Kosovar Albanians for one that would destroy the
Yugoslavian army and remove Milsosevic and his ruling clique from
power.

From a military perspective, a powerful NATO army could be set in
motion much more quickly and effectively from the north out of
Hungary. The troops are at hand for such an offensive. Taking
advantage of Europe's superior transportation systems, armored and
mechanized infantry forces of the United States, France, Britain,
Germany and the Netherlands, currently stationed in northern Europe,
could move by rail and road to the borders of Yugoslavia through the
Czech Republic and Hungary far more quickly than transporting them to
Macedonia or Albania.

NATO, of course, would have to persuade two of its new members to
allow their territory to be used as transit and staging areas for the
attack, no simple matter.

Several hundred thousand ethnic Hungarians live in Vojvodina, the
region of Serbia near 

[CTRL] Fwd: 05.13.99 RMNews: IS CHINA BLACKMAILING PRESIDENT CLINTON?

1999-05-13 Thread Kris Millegan





=
==RUMOR MILL NEWS  AGENCY ==
=
Dateline05.13.99

IS PRESIDENT CLINTON BEING BLACKMAILED BY THE
CHINESE?

RMNews Today on FOXNEWS, former Clinton advisor Dick Morris
raised the possibility that President Clinton is covering up and delaying
the investigation of  the Chinese nuclear espionage scandal because China
is blackmailing him.

Over a year ago, RMNews issued an article titled: Blackmail, Treason,
Impeachment, Assassination. Here is the link:
A HREF="http://www.anaserve.com/~wethepeople/rumills2.htm"Blackmail,
Treason, Impeachment, Assasination
/A

Dick Morris said today that if Clinton retaliates in any way over the
Chinese theft of our nuclear secrets that the Chinese may strike back
against Clinton by providing the missing witnesses in the Democratic
campaign fund scandal. This not only will take Clinton our, but it will also
take out vice President Gore.

In the article  RMNews published on blackmail, we pointed out that we
have a president who has left himself open for blackmail on many
different levels by many different people, agencies and government.

From his sexual escapades, to the many mysterious deaths,  illegal
banking transactions, bribes, extortion, threats, rape, and lying, this
President has left himself wide open to blackmail from the highest bidder.

What do we mean "highest bidder?" We mean the people who can
threaten him with death and deliver it, if he does not do what they tell him
to do.

Clinton  lives in a constant state of trying to keep one blackmailer happy
in order to keep himself alive long enough to try to "neutralize" the
blackmailer. In the case of people like Mary Caitrin Mahoney, the ex-
intern who was slain gangland style in the Georgetown Starbucks, she was
not powerful enough to protect herself. In the case of China, Bill Clinton
must dance to their tune because HE is not powerful enough to protect
himself.

All China has to do is give their U.S. based agents the okay to take down
Air Force One, and that is the end of Bill Clinton. So, what does Bill
Clinton do in order to stay alive long enough to figure out a plan to keep
the Chinese from killing him?

Our President does what the Chinese wants him to do. The first thing is
stall the investigation into the theft of our nuclear secrets in order for the
Chinese to get ALL the nuclear secrets. To do this, President Clinton had
to employ blackmail himself. In this case, he blackmailed Janet Reno with
sordid sexual material from her past. If this wasn't enough to turn our
Attorney General into an accomplice in treason, he used his trump card,
which is, "How is your family these days? I'm glad to see that they are all
ALIVE and well."

When you play the game at this level, you know what an inquiry like this
means, especially if it comes directly after you are asked to commit
treason by the President of the United States.

I do not want to believe that Attorney General Reno would sell out our
country to protect herself from having her sordid sexual secrets revealed.
Everyone has something in their past that they don't want revealed, but
would they place the lives of 250 million U.S. citizens in danger just to
cover up their shame?

I don't want to believe that anyone is capable of  sacrificing America to
save themselves. (Others will sacrifice America because that is part of
their agenda, but this is another story.)

I do believe  every one of our elected and appointed officials are capable
of selling out our country to protect the people they love, like their
mothers, fathers, grandparents,  husbands, wives, girlfriends, brothers,
sisters, nieces, nephews, grandchildren.

There is only one way to prevent being blackmailed in this way. It is to
immediately call a press conference with every member of your family
present, and inform the public, not only of the threat by the President to
kill your loved ones, but of the information that you have which the
President does not want known. This won't guarantee that you life will be
saved, but it will guarantee that people will know why you were killed.

It is clear that the President and his minions have silenced people like
Alphonse D'Amato, the first Senator to look into the Whitewater scandal.
It is also evident that Senator Fred Thompson is being blackmailed or
threatened. In the case of Senator Thompson, he had a career in
Hollywood before becoming a Senator. What did he do in his Hollywood
days that has been documented on videotape?

There are no doubt hundreds of others on Capitol Hill who are being
crushed beneath the jackboot of the Clinton presidency with the threat of
blackmail or worse.

But with the recent bombing of the Chinese Embassy, the stakes have
risen. If this President is allowed to stay in power, with the Chinese
blackmailing him at every turn, not only will China take over Taiwan, but
they will expand into the 

[CTRL] The Armageddon Bra boasts an early warning system

1999-05-13 Thread Hilary A. Thomas

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From: "Hilary A. Thomas" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

May 13 1999
FAR EAST


©
The Armageddon Bra boasts an  early warning system
Apocalyptic bra lifts Tokyo pessimists
FROM ROBERT WHYMANT IN TOKYO

EVERY Japanese has heard of Nostradamus, and millions lend credence to his
prophecy that a terrible calamity will strike in July this year - a war
destroying a third of the world's population.  Now the lingerie firm,
Triumph International Japan, is cashing in on the nation's doomsday boom
with a hi-tech bra that alerts its wearer to incoming missiles.  Presented
at a fashion show yesterday, the "Armageddon Bra" includes a sensor on the
shoulder strap, and a control box to warn of objects falling from the
skies. Ideally it should be worn without outer garments to work
efficiently.  Triumph says that it hopes to utilise the technology in a new
generation of bras designed for a world where catastrophes can strike at
any moment.  Natural born pessimists, the Japanese have seized on the
doom-laden predictions of the 16th-century French astrologer as if there
were no tomorrow. One poll showed that about 20 per cent of people believe
that Nostradamus's quatrains are a reliable guide to the future.  One large
Tokyo bookshop carries some 185 titles on Nostradamus, and many are
bestsellers. The majority advise readers to take the doomsday predictions
to heart and prepare for the worst.  Triumph's choice of the Nostradamus
theme for the bra - which will not be in the shops for some time - chimes
with the collective pessimism of a nation that can see no end to the
deepest recession in more than a decade that has lead to the worst
unemployment in recent memory.

http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/tim/99/05/13/timfgnfar03001.html?11240

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[CTRL] [Fwd: Fwd: A warning on US intentions re Yugoslavia]

1999-05-13 Thread nurev

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5/13/99

I don't know how to take this post. I know that troops are being
prepared
for invasion. 16,000 marines, the shock troops of Transnational
business
interests are going in according to MSNBC.

Normally I wouldn't distribute something like this as fact, but if
true
we can bear witness to a crime against humanity. Please distribute
with
this disclaimer. Let's hope it's wrong.

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Subject: Fwd: A warning on US intentions re Yugoslavia
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 01:54:36 +0200 (MET DST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rolf Martens)
snip
Fwd: A warning on US intentions re Yugoslavia
[Posted: 13.05.99 (GMT)]

I'm forwarding to newsgroups and to some mail addresses the fol-
lowing, which I've received just now. - RM.


Date:   Thu, 13 May 1999 21:34:00 +0200
From:   democrite [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Organization:   Editions =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E9mocrite?=
X-Accept-Language:  fr,el,ru,es,af
Subject: Warning



Date:  Thu, 13 May 1999 15:30:01 +0200
From:  Marijana Glisic [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This is a warning. There is a possibility that NATO is preparing
a staged massacre of Albanian refugees to get the excuse to at-
tack Yugoslavia from all sides and in that way defy the decisions
made by the US Congress. We could witness new Markale.

There are indications that NATO is preparing the ground offensive
on Yugoslavia as a whole and not only on Kosovo. According to the
information received from Macedonia and Albania all the Albanian
refugees are evacuating from the border areas and are being re-
placed with NATO troops.

Romania, Croatia, Hungary, Bulgaria Bosnia, Macedonia and Albania
were all forced to sign the documents allowing the NATO troops to
launch the ground attack from their territories. CNN has sent
three full crews to Albania equipped with satellite broadcasting
equipment. Knowing their reputation they always get sent to the
crisis area "before" anything starts so that they can prepare for
the coverage of the "unexpected" event. There are also indica-
tions that NATO is preparing to arrange a false "massacre of the
innocent Albanian refugees" that will be used as a excuse for the
attack.

Our sources say that it will be probably done as a bombing of a
refugee camp in Albania or Macedonia.


[So far the forwarded message]

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Re: [CTRL] Will the Vatican Control Britain's State Religion ?

1999-05-13 Thread drbongo

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tell me more

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Re: [CTRL] Brits at War

1999-05-13 Thread Andrew Hennessey

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escalatpolitical tensions in Britain

Conservatives tell Blair to mount ground war or prepare for defeat

By Chris Marsden
13 May 1999

I would not put any store in anything the 'Conservative Party' says as
it is extinct as a party in British politics.
It has no credible opposition - and in fact Supremo Conservative
baroness Thatcher is actually briefing Tony Blair on his moves.
She still carries more weight from the House of Lords than all of
Hagues rag tag non-entities.
The entire weight of British capitalism, then, is totally behind any
fiasco now brewing - and I'm sure that evryone smells the Baltic Gold
or the Oil pipeline or whatever.
When Alex Salmond, Scottish National party leader suggested that NATO were
wrong to bomb - the entire weight of the BBC and all Rupert Murdochs media
turned the man into a Demon - [which he may be] - but make no mistake,
the media mass news will create unity - and as far as I can see,
there is no division in the UK - simply because people don't know the truth.

Andrew Hennessey
Transformation Studies Group
Edinburgh   Scotland


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Re: [CTRL] Military Intelligence 6

1999-05-13 Thread Andrew Hennessey

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I believe that Mr David Spedding is in charge at MI6.

no its Dr Strangelove - I mean Richard Dearlove

I have no idea how many people work for them, but the numbers are not
great. -   says who ???

I know one MI6 agent in Edinburgh that shags his dog -
[name and address supplied]


Lifelong confidentiality is imposed on former members of MI5, MI6 and
GCHQ. This became a contractual obligation in 1987, and was enshirined
in the Intelligence Services Act in 1994. (reported in The Times
20/04/96)
No shit - they use their James Bond routine to get you to buy them a drink
field expenses have been cutback etc.

A book by former MI5 man called 'Dead man Running' tells how he was sacrificed
for termination as a pawn at a terrorist gathering - set up by his own people,
then hounded and persecuted in every town he went to when in hiding.
He saved himself by throwing himself out of a 2 storey building -
his survival was not in the 'national interest' ??

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[CTRL] Fwd: SNET: NATO may be targeting nuclear reactor-Report

1999-05-13 Thread Kris Millegan






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--- Forwarded Message Follows ---
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Date sent:  Thu, 13 May 1999 17:47:48 -0400 (EDT)
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Subject:IUFO: NATO may be targeting nuclear reactor-Report
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We have been forwarded an as yet unconfirmed report (below) that NATO
may be targetting the VINCA nuclear reactor as part of its mega-strikes
now in preparation in Turkey.  At least one UK nuclear safety expert has
stated that such a strike could release radiation to create "a second
Chernobyl." NWO targetting could well include this deliberate, horrendous
type of act, and we should monitor the conduct of the war as coordinated
with the Bilderberger meeting in June.

Geri  Alfred

==
 Fwd From: Maria-Raimonda USAI [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 17:20:56 +0100 (BST)
 Subject: Real disaster threat(fwd)

 Hello, I have been forwarded this, apparently sent by P.R. Adzic,
 Belgrade. I replied to both email addresses ( the one from CERN in
 Switzerland and the one from Belgrade) and didn't get a reply. They ask
 to send this to as many people as possible to avoid the disaster.
 Perheaps it  would  be useful to inform the press, anybody knows
 how/who?

 Raimonda Usai

 -
 Real disaster threat

 Dear friends,

 Something which we feared that might happen, seems very likely.
 I can confirm now we expect that NATO planes will bomb VINCA
 Institute. In the passed several days we received this warning,
 but today we got this information as serious threat from the
 highest authorities.

 Our reactor is not working for more than 15 years, but the
 significant amount of 235-U enriched and unused fuel is still
 in its interior. Highly radioactive material for everyday
 activities is also located in several research laboratories.
 I fear that a big disaster may occur. In the worst case, no
 Balkan and even European country would be safe. Not to mention
 ecological catastrophe. I still hope that this disaster could
 be avoided, unless we are already late.

 I would appreciate if you succeed in informing as many people
 as possible on the eventual tragedy. God bless you.

 P.R. Adzic
 --
 P.R. Adzic   Tel:(381 11)
 444-7965/455-041
 VINCA Institute of Nuclear Sciences  Fax:(381 11)
 455-041
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 From: Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: US shuts down Yugoslav Internet
 Date: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 8:31 PM

 The following message is ominous for all who believe in the free
 exchange of information and ideas. NATO has rationalized the murder of
 journalists and the destruction of transmitting facilities by claiming
 they were disseminating "official propaganda." Now they want to shut
 down the only independent source of news and information between
 Yugoslavia and the outside world.  As with the systematic destruction of
 Yugoslavia's infrastructure, this is an attack not on the military but
 on all the people.  Now only NATO's version of the war will be
 available. How nice. --MC
 +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +

 PLEASE POST AND DISTRIBUTE WIDELY
 US shuts down Yugoslav Internet

 Dear sirs,

 We have reliable information that the US Government ordered
 Loral Orion company to shut down its satellite feeds for
 Internet customers in Yugoslavia.

 This action might be taken as soon as later tonight or tomorrow
 (May 12 or 13, 1999).

 This is a flagrant violation of commercial contracts with
 Yugoslav ISPs, as well as an attack on freedom of the Internet.

 A Web site in protest of these actions should be up shortly. We
 will supply you with the URL. In the meantime, please be so kind
 to inform as many people as possible about this tragic event for
 the Internet community in Yugoslavia and Europe.

 Kind regards,
 BeoNET
 Belgrade, Yugoslavia

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Re: [CTRL] The Armageddon Bra boasts an early warning system

1999-05-13 Thread Colleen Jones

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Don't the Japanese, who lost World War II, know that Hitler said they
would also win the war based on the "prophesies" of Nostradamus - and

that Nostradamus said the world would end in 1666 per the
bible.however, when it did not end in 1666, to save face and
probably his life, he turned the numbers upside downif we get into
the calendar stuff, what year is it in China, and what year is it,
anywaynobody knows I guess for sure.

But, the Japanese surely must be getting like Yankee Doodle
Dandy.anything for the good old Japanese yen.

Colleen

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Re: [CTRL] Will the Vatican Control Britain's State Religion ?

1999-05-13 Thread John Wright

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Maybe you should check out the links
at the end of the website you thought was bizarre

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[CTRL] Fwd: May 16 column -- Killer Cops

1999-05-13 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn






FROM MOUNTAIN MEDIA
FOR EMBARGOED RELEASE DATED MAY 16, 1999
THE LIBERTARIAN, By Vin Suprynowicz
A different set of laws for our Killer Cops


Last Oct. 25 was the day Nevada shifted from Daylight Savings to
Pacific Standard Time. Tom Gaule, a 42-year-old electronics repairman,
figures that's why the burglars were still in his house when he came home.
"It was an hour later, and that's what goofed 'em up."

  Opening the door to his home, near Rainbow and Charleston in west Las
Vegas, Gaule says he was set upon by two men he did not recognize, each
wielding a 100,000-volt electric shock device "bought in a police supply
center under false names. That's twice the voltage of a Tazer, it's some
new type device. It cauterizes and carbonizes. I've got a two-inch long
thing like a glass branch in my neck; at first I thought something
shattered and stuck in me. Then I realized it was between the two contacts
of the electrodes."

  Needless to say, this treatment further disoriented the already surprised
Mr. Gaule, as did the beating he says he received "with a golf club and a
crowbar or something, they'd hit me just below the nose and in the lungs.
Most people would have a heart attack. Alls I was trying to do was stop
this guy, and I couldn't understand why I couldn't run. Normally I would
have been able to run after the guy. They sealed their own deaths: had they
not shocked me they would have been captured."

  Inside the house, Mr. Gaule managed to break away, retrieve his 12-gauge
pump shotgun, and open fire. "There were several blasts around the house,
there was quite a struggle for the weapon," he recalls. Jason Lamb died on
the premises. Ricky Tripp, though already hit, was shot again and killed as
he fled the house. Presumably as a result of this last shot at a fleeing
attacker, Mr. Gaule will be put on trial in September by Las Vegas
prosecutors on a charge of "voluntary homicide." He will be defended by a
court-appointed attorney who currently "has 147 other cases." Gaule denies
rumors he knew one of the men, or owed either of them money.

  Less than six months later, late in the evening of April 12, 1999, Metro
Police Officer Bruce Gentner pulled his cruiser to the side of the street
at Rainbow and Tropicana, about four miles south of Tom Gaule's house, and
ordered John Perrin, 32, who was armed only with a basketball, to stop and
raise his hands. At a coroner's inquest May 7, Officer Gentner testified
that Mr. Perrin failed to follow his orders, instead reaching into his
waistband. Officer Gentner testified he thought he saw Mr. Perrin's hands
close around a weapon -- he turned out to be in possession of a glass
bottle containing iodine crystals, sometimes used in methamphetamine
manufacture -- a bottle on which investigators (curiously) could find no
fingerprints.

  So, Officer Gentner shot the unarmed Mr. Perrin. Officer Gentner fired
until his magazine was empty, discharging 14 rounds of caliber .40 Smith 
Wesson -- hitting with six, one of them in the chest. But the coroner's
jury voted 6-1 that Officer Gentner's killing of the unarmed Mr. Perrin was
justified; there will be no criminal charges.

  At the coroner's inquest, Officer Gentner -- who expressed no remorse at
his actions -- told a tale in which the suspect Perrin made eye contact
with him, and then ran across the street. Meeting another man, Mr. Perrin
-- still in view of the police cruiser, mind you -- then supposedly engaged
in some furtive transfer of property which officer Gentner interpreted as a
drug deal. Et cetera.

  Anyone who has read the novels of Joseph Wambaugh is familiar with the
carefully scripted little fairy stories police officers sometimes concoct
when called to account for accosting citizens who are doing no harm. Former
police officer Wambaugh shows how officers who have simply busted in a
motel room door carefully explain on the stand how they first checked the
guest registry, then went to the room in question and found a marijuana
seed on the carpet outside the door, which in turn gave them "reasonable
cause" to search the suspect room, et cetera.

  The frequent police attitude in such cases is that if the courts want to
impose requirements which make no sense in the real world, we'll just get
the job done, and then tell them whatever fairy story they want to hear,
later on.

  Several in the courtroom last Friday found Officer Gentner's testimony
similarly convenient and unconvincing. Brent Bryson, the attorney for the
Perrin family who filed a $25 million civil suit against Metro and Officer
Gentner on Wednesday, called Gentner's testimony "well-rehearsed," pointing
out that three civilian witnesses within earshot failed to hear him shout
any commands at Perrin until after he fired.

  The "second man" involved in the alleged drug deal has never been
located. Until Friday, police spokesmen had never mentioned his presence in
explaining details of the case. Since third parties -- 

[CTRL] Drug War is Cynical, Truth can Solve the Problem

1999-05-13 Thread David Crockett Williams

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The Drug War is Cynical but Truth can Solve the Problem
http://www.angelfire.com/on/GEAR2000/drugwar.html

The Mirriam Webster's Deluxe Dictionary (10th Collegiate Edition, 1998)
defines cynical as "contemptuously distrustful of human nature and motives"

This describes a fundamental problem at the root of the Drug War.  This
attitude means that there is no room for drug laws based on fact and reason
while there is the cynical attitude that drugs make people behave in
criminal ways.

People do not take drugs because they want to get into violent or dishonest
states of mind.  They take them "to feel good".  The government policies
that make them criminals for doing so are based on the cynical belief that
these substances produce negative behavior.  But the negative behavior is
really due to the enforcement of bad legal policies that make criminals out
of folks who are doing something to their own bodies that they think makes
them "feel good", doing something which they are not going to stop doing
until they find something that works better for them.

The health problems associated with illegal drugs, the addictions and the
crimes are all results of the stigma and attitude of secrecy that results
from these bad policies and laws, and the enormous economic costs that this
illegality produces.  This high cost factor is at the root of the real
criminal activities associated with illegal drugs and it is what makes
illegal drugs the funding source that it is for the covert weaponization of
populations both foreign and domestic.

The present drug policy laws are very close to laws that simply outlaw a
person's freedom to choose what makes them "feel good".   If they are not
reformed then crime will continue to increase.

But the real crime is being committed by the lawmakers and enforcers of
these laws themselves which cause the suffering of innocent people due to
the "outcast stigma" in daily life, the arrests, property seizures,
imprisonment, deaths from hard drug overdoses, health problems, the
oppression of the poor people who grow the plants from which the illegal
drugs come and their domination by drug lords, and by the worldwide military
actions largely supported by the CIA as evidenced by copious documentation
including its own admissions regarding the Iran-Contra drugs for gun
smuggling detailed in the Inspector General's Report volume 2 but still not
widely known to the public. (see http://www.copvcia.com )

Yes, The Drug War is a cynical war on innocent people and it has reached the
proportions in these times of warranting its understanding as a "low
intensity" Third World War.  With these mechanations behind the scenes, the
latest front of this hidden battle may grow into a full-fledged WWIII from
the current Balkan War where the US is supporting the KLA drug dealing
allies of the CIA in its ongoing orchestrated program of destabilizations to
take over the land everywhere possible from its indigenous inhabitants for
transnational corporate exploitation of energy, human, and mineral
resources.

If ignorance was classified as a drug, the American people and their leaders
might be called its greatest addicts.

Yes, I definitely think the Drug War can be accurately described as cynical.

By definition, the only antidote to the cynicism of the drug war is to be
understanding and trustful of human nature and motives.   Since most people
are poisoned by and addicted to distrust, this antidote is not so easy to
find or to swallow.  This is where it becomes a spiritual issue and to get
the antidote one must learn to trust in truth itself as each person's path
leads one to it.

Truth itself is the antidote and weapon to end the drug war and all wars.
When truth itself makes everyone feel good, only then will all the drug,
war, and violence problems be solvable.  Only then may peace, prosperity,
and mutual respect prevail on Earth.

Truth itself is the best "drug" and it is the only known antidote for
addiction to ignorance.

Take it all the time and you will really feel good.

David Crockett Williams 13May99
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Re: [IWAR] ECON Europe looks enviously at U.S. economy (fwd)

1999-05-13 Thread fogstorm

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 Employment in the United States has risen 32 percent since 1980, while
   it has not risen at all in the 11 countries that have adopted the euro.
   
   But the corollary is a harsh welfare regime and a degree of income
   inequality that European voters want no truck with.

These two paragraphs effectively sum up the article.

In the long run; the more centralized the economic decision making, the 
worse off an economy.

FogStorm

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He gives it to." 
 -- Old Irish Saying 



Re: [CTRL] Golden Capstone Gorillas

1999-05-13 Thread Andrew Hennessey

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According to reports George Bush, Sr. among other world leaders will be at
the
Great Pyramid in Egypt on Dec. 31 for a special millenium ceremony, at
which a
GOLDEN CAPSTONE will be placed upon the pyramid.  Would anyone hazard a guess
as to whom the initiate/ initiates might be who will be within the
capstone to
harvest the occult forces gathered therein?  Looks like somebody is walking
out
of that pyramid with the vision and power to lead the masses straight to
hell.

All Hail King Kong, glorious leader of the Planet of the Apes ...
'... I'm the king of the swings yeah,
 the jungle VIP,
 I got to the top,
 and I had to stop,
 and that's what's troublin' me ...'

Andrew Hennessey
Transformation Studies Group
Edinburgh   Scotland



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Om, Shalom, Salaam.
Em Hotep, Peace Be,
Omnia Bona Bonis,
All My Relations.
Adieu, Adios, Aloha.
Amen.
Roads End
Kris

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Re: [CTRL] Golden Capstone Gorillas

1999-05-13 Thread Colleen Jones

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Remember the Mummy's Curseand the Titanic.that also had a mummy
aboard from the Temple of Aye, a High Priestessnow, these grave
robbers of the past looted the tombs of the pharoahs of old, who had all
their gold - who said you can't take it with you..buried with
them..and remember too, most of the wealthy people on the Titanic
were returning from Upper Egypt.the playground of the oh so social,
of the day.
I bet that ship was so loaded with gold, that it hit rock bottom in 10
minutes flat.
Besides, in our hearts, we know a German sub got it.

Can't you see the headlines.Return of the Mummy...Mummy
1999.and believe me the last place I would want to be on Decemer 31,
1999, is in the pyramid of the Pharohs gravethe sign of the skull
and bones.the valley of the kings.and yet on th bottom of the
ocean, the High Priestess of the Temple Aye who went down on the
Titanic, lies in a cold grave while these ROBBERS return to the scense
of their crimes.

Well, there is no business like show business is there..George Bush
Sr. will be okay, but I wouldn't stand too near any Rockefeller, Morgan
descendent, or even anyone remotely connected to tht old group of grave
robbers.

And above all - don't get anywhere near these Bilderbergers, because I
do believe the Curse of the Mummy is about to drop a building on them
all.

Besides, its only the year 2,000..we got another 1000 years to go.
And who wants to go to that old valley of the Kings anyway.who
knows, if those dry bones are going to walk around, forget Egypt.

Colleen

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[CTRL] Aspartame Causes

1999-05-13 Thread 1lls0081

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I am throwing this in first because this is what I am working on
http://www.cspinet.org/new/antibiotics.htm
If we replicate, and go into space this junk will be with us
or
are there a lot of seeds in space, a monopoly?
but what about the culture dish that is Earth,
and the diversity of DNA source codes,
do they have all the source codes or will the Earth
be one of the poorest planets going into a possible
intelgalactic stock market of DNA source code futures?
http://www.organics.org/features/god_garden.htm


this is basic information about Aspartame
http://www.annapolis.net/members/holland/food.txt

this link is to the No MSG site
refers to spraying aspartame on plants
http://www.nomsg.com


this link is basic information on Aspartame
A link from the American Dietetic Association
http://www.eatright.org/adap0598.html


This article says that Aspartame is a part of MSG
---
 Source:  Journal of the American Dietetic Association, July 1997 v97n7
  p793(2).

Title:  'We think your son has Lennox-Gastaut syndrome'- a case study of
monosodium glutamate's effect on a child.
Author:  Anne Shovic, Robert D. Bart and Apryll M. Stalcup

   Abstract:  A two-year-old boy presented with signs and symptoms of
  uncontrollable seizures of multiple types mimicking that of   Lennox-Gestaut
  syndrome. It was later diagnosed as monosodium glutamate (MSG) related
  seizures following a comparison with a similarly related case wherein
  withdrawal from monosodium glutamate intake resulted to resumption of
  normal  functions. A component of MSG known as aspartame acting as
  proconvulsant was   believed to be the etiologic factor. Control of dietary
MSG is the
  effective prevention of a more drastic intervention.


   Subjects:  Glutamates - Health aspects
  Monosodium glutamate - Health aspects
  Chemicals - Adverse and side effects


  Electronic Collection:  A19792007
 RN:  A19792007

  Full Text COPYRIGHT 1997 American Dietetic Association

  Glutamate is a naturally occurring nonessential amino acid that serves as one
  of the body's excitatory neurotransmitters (1). It occurs in food as
  either a free amino acid or bound as a constituent in proteins. Although foods

  high in protein (eg, meat and dairy products) may have fairly high levels of
  bound glutamate, free glutamate in foods is thought to be more closely
  associated with adverse effects (1). Monosodium glutamate (MSG), which is used

  extensively as a flavor enhancer, can be a major source of free glutamate (2).

  A US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) panel has declared MSG safe,
  Stating that MSG poses little health risk (3). However, Daniel Raitin, PhD,
who
  prepared the MSG report for the FDA stated, "Individual sensitivity to
  food is just beginning to be explored and there is no reason to believe people

  exquisitely sensitive to MSG are not out there" (4). In a report
  prepared by the Life Sciences Research Office, Federation of American
Societies for
  Experimental Biology (1), the ad hoc expert panel acknowledged that
  preexisting conditions (eg, genetic predisposition, endogenous
  anomalies in glutamate metabolism, impaired vitamin B-6 metabolism or
deficiency)
  might predispose persons to reactions from MSG. They concluded that it
  appeared that oral ingestion of MSG had the potential to provoke a response in
some
  persons with severe unstable asthma. In addition, the panel validated some of
  the work by Olney (5) that implicates MSG in the formation of lesions in
certain
  regions of the brain that are not protected by the blood-brain barrier.
  The Institute of Food Technologists has also declared MSG to be safe for
  human consumption (6). Any concern that is mentioned appears to apply only to
  a small number of adult subjects who consumed large amounts of MSG. Very
  little information is available on the effects of MSG in
sensitivity-heightened
children. The following case study illustrates these effects and the unique
process that was taken by a mother and health professionals to deal
with the situation.

CASE STUDY

In the fall of 1991, the mother of D.S., a 2.5-year-old boy, noticed
that her normally healthy son was experiencing "head dropping" incidents. She
later recalled that D.S.'s head would drop suddenly, as if he had sneezed but
without the exhalation of air. Although D.S. did not seem to be affected by
the episodes, his mother noted that he began stuttering and having unexplained
tantrums. By the end of February 1992, the head-dropping episodes were
occurring almost every night and with greater intensity. D.S. was brought
to a pediatrician after head-dropping episodes 

[CTRL] Channel from SpiritLife Newsletter

1999-05-13 Thread Don Allen

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From a friend...


Hi everyone -
I received a note from the editor of SpiritLife Newsletter.
He sent in a channel as part of it - to be shared to all :

Here is an excerpt from the most recent channeling from Archangel Ariel,
dated May 4th, 1999.

Archangel Ariel Channeling
through Isaac George, Sedona, AZ May 4th, 1999

There is a hundred day window that began on May 2 and that continues
through August 11th, 1999.  This window is an opportunity for many of the
starseeds and lightworkers to finish many of their personal issues, to
complete the karmic effects of some of the choices they have made in this
lifetime and in others.  It is also a time frame during which the planet and
the mass-consciousness of humanity is cleaning up their act.

It is very important to be most aware of one's thoughts and emotional
responses during this time frame, as it will have an outward effect, an
outward response in the environment very quickly.  You are reaching a time
within this  hundred day cycle when the planet herself will no longer be
present within the photon belt directly.  However, your sun's activity
within that realm of energy is going to be significant and increase
exponentially between now and the August 11th Solar Eclipse and beyond.

What you will also see is corresponding response within the weather patterns
and also within the political and social arenas that will look very much in
the way of chaos.  There is also going to be a corresponding chaotic
fluctuation within the financial markets and also within the various hot
spots around the planet.  You have a situation that is brewing in the Middle
East that has not yet been understand by most of your media and analysts.
This is a delicate time coming up between now and August 11th.

To look at the immediate future we will look at May 11th through the end of
May: This is a download of new energies that will be coming in, some of it
traveling with your solar winds, some of it coming in from the galactic
solar center Alcyone (the Central Sun).  Also on this rise of energy will be
carried many of the encodements necessary to awaken the next level of
humanity.  This awakening will create a ground swell of people seeking
assistance between the period of July and December.  That is why  most of
you will be very busy attending to the confusion and attending to the
release of emotional trauma and patterns that have been held in the
physical, mental and emotional bodies of individuals.

There will also be those who will be seeking to become more awake and more
aware of their function.  Now how does this translate in terms of the
process of lightbody?  Between now and the end of May you will be seeing a
new quotient of the lightbody process activated.  There is going to be some
of the beings that were raised in the first group from 1987 to 1997 who will
begin to translate into tenth level lightbody.  This has happened to some
degree but not consistently nor with stability for some individuals.
When this occurs it will be a quantum shift on some level for the beings
that are awake and have been in the awareness that they are starseeds, that
they are also highly evolved souls that have come to assist the planetary
birthing process.  This will be come more and more evident through the
months of June and July.

In the month of June, particularly near the end of June there will be the
beginning of a solar cycle initiated.  From the time that the planet
actually exits the photon belt, the 15th, 16th or 17th of June, and then at
the end of the month there will be a major solar eruption, solar storm, that
will impact the planet by the 1st, 2nd and 3rd of July.  This could be of
such severity that it may incapacitate for a temporary time most of the
planetary communications on one side of the globe.  It could also trigger
severe tornado and thunderstorm activity. It could also bring hurricane
season into being much sooner than its regular cycle of  late August through
early October.  Therefore,  it is most important to be in awareness that
these things are part of natural evolution, natural forces.

Some of the galactic forces that are in attendance in your world will do
what they can to modify the effects of the solar storm before it actually
depresses the magnetosphere of your planet and creates the atmospheric
disturbances mentioned.  There is to be a step-up of this activity as you
have seen through the news reports of massive tornado destruction in
Oklahoma and Kansas.  This is the tip of the iceberg.  These have been the
result of the coronal mass injections that have been occurring since May 1st
and 2nd.

There will be more of an interrelatedness observed by your scientists and
meteorologists between the solar activity and the weather patterns on the
planet.  It is not all because of the manmade greenhouse effect; it is not
all because of the emissions from fossil fuels and the effects on the
ionosphere and the ozone layer.   What is 

[CTRL] Trade War

1999-05-13 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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From Int'l Herald Tribune

Paris, Friday, May 14, 1999


WTO Fight Raises Risk Of Further Trade Wars

Deadlock on Chief Stymies Trade Body


--
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By Alan Friedman International Herald Tribune
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ROME - With the World Trade Organization increasingly paralyzed by a
bitter dispute over who will be its next leader, the risk of a series
of regional and global trade wars is mounting, according to senior
trade officials and economists.

In Tokyo, a two-day meeting of senior trade officials from the United
States, the European Union, Japan and Canada ended Thursday without
agreement or even any apparent progress on who should be the next
director-general of the WTO, the leading arbiter of international
commercial disputes and embodiment of global trade rules and
regulations.

In Brussels meanwhile, the EU on Thursday ignored a deadline set by
the WTO to lift its 10-year ban on U.S. and Canadian beef produced
with genetically engineered hormones. This move is likely to trigger
retaliation from Washington and could lead to a new trans-Atlantic
trade war. (Page 17)

The WTO leadership vacuum, and divisions among member states, could
also delay efforts to negotiate terms for China's long-sought
membership in the Geneva-based organization. Experts also note that
preparations for an important fresh round of global trade talks,
scheduled to begin in Seattle this year, remain stalled, a
disagreement exacerbated by the WTO impasse.

''The big risk,'' said Robert Hormats, a vice president of Goldman,
Sachs International and a former U.S. financial official, ''is that
this situation will weaken the WTO at a time when it really needs all
the cohesion and unity it can muster.''

Mr. Hormats warned that in the absence of strong leadership, trade
tensions between the United States and its partners in Europe and
Japan could fester. ''I think the great danger to the system now is
that having survived the worst financial crisis of the postwar
period, we could soon find ourselves embroiled in an escalating
series of trade conflicts which would be very harmful to the world
economy,'' he said.

The leadership struggle - which pits a former prime minister of New
Zealand, Mike Moore, against the deputy prime minister and commerce
minister of Thailand, Supachai Panitchpakdi - is seen by both U.S.
and European officials as highly divisive, especially as it has begun
to polarize blocks of developing countries against some of the
leading industrialized powers.

White House officials refrain from criticizing Mr. Supachai in
public. But some officials make clear privately why they are refusing
to back him by accusing him of improper campaign tactics. In
Washington, a U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said
the Clinton administration ''began with a fairly agnostic position at
first, but then swung behind Moore when we began hearing reports
about Supachai being divisive, campaigning against the idea of
discussing trade and labor issues, and even making promises of WTO
jobs to some member countries in exchange for their support.''

Speaking from Tokyo on Thursday, Charlene Barshefsky, the U.S. trade
representative, did not criticize Mr. Supachai, but gave strong
support to Mr. Moore, a free-trade advocate who is credited with
having helped to transform New Zealand from a bastion of
protectionist regulations into a model free-market economy.

''We believe that Mr. Moore would be the most effective consensus-
builder within the WTO, and on that basis support his candidacy,''
Ms. Barshefsky said. She added that the WTO needs ''leadership across
a wide spectrum of issues of concern to developing and developed
countries alike.''

While Mr. Moore has the backing of the United States, plus France,
Germany, Italy and many countries in Africa, the Caribbean and Latin
America, Mr. Supachai has won the support of Japan, most Asian
nations, many in the Middle East and almost half of the European
Union.

Britain has voiced support for Mr. Supachai, arguing that it is time
for a WTO chief who hails from the developing world, while the
Netherlands supports him because of his ties to Amsterdam.

Mr. Supachai, who could not be reached for comment Thursday, has
denied claims of vote-buying and of opposing trade talks related to
labor issues. In a recent interview with the International Herald
Tribune, he complained of a campaign of rumor and innuendo against
his candidacy.

On Wednesday, Thailand claimed Mr. Supachai had majority support.
''In our latest survey, dated May 7, we have 77 countries supporting
Supachai and 41 supporting Moore,'' a Foreign Ministry spokesman
said.

Those figures contrast sharply with those of Ali Mchumo, the
Tanzanian trade ambassador who is chairman of the WTO selection
committee. Mr. Mchumo has said that 62 countries support Mr. Moore
and 59 back Mr. Supachai.