[CTRL] Out of the Armey Now

2002-10-18 Thread Euphorian
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From http://www.dfw.com/mld/startelegram/news/columnists/dave_lieber/4288050.htm

Posted on Tue, Oct. 15, 2002

Nothing fond about farewell to Armey

Dave Lieber commentary


A congressman from our area, House Majority Leader Dick Armey, R-Flower Mound, is a
tacky
man. In less than three months, he will be out of office, and we will no longer have 
to listen
to his stupid comments.

His son, Scott Armey, who could not win the House seat even though he shares his 
daddy's
name, will still be a federal employee, thanks to political patronage. But neither 
father nor
son will be an elected official, and for that, we should say a small prayer of thanks.

What motivates my call for prayer? Dick Armey's latest stunt. Still fuming over a 
series that
The Dallas Morning News published on the eve of his son's loss in the Republican 
primary in
April, Armey tried to pull an unbelievable power play this month. He attempted to 
insert
language into a military appropriations bill that would have forced the Morning News' 
parent
company, Belo, to sell one of its three media properties in the region. His 
Belo-related
amendment alluded to, but did not name, these Belo properties: WFAA/Channel 8, the
Morning News and the Denton Record- Chronicle. Armey's amendment stated that any
media company that owns a network-affiliated TV station; a newspaper with a Sunday
circulation of at least 750,000 that doesn't have a competitor with a Sunday 
circulation
exceeding 350,000; and a second daily newspaper with a Sunday circulation of 25,000 or
less -- all in the same market -- would have to divest the smallest property.

That type of vague language is how lawmakers have historically inserted last-minute
amendments that aid cronies or target enemies. Therefore, in celebration of Armey's
pending retirement, I suggest that the following amendments -- based on incidents 
culled
from his career -- be inserted into bills:

• The Mispronounced Name Amendment: Applies to any congressional leader who in 1995
referred to an openly gay congressman with a term that rhymes with rag. The leader 
shall
be forced to wear, for an entire year, a rainbow-colored tie with the words Ask me 
what
my first name is.

• The Fool-Me-Twice-Shame-on-You Amendment: Applies to any congressional leader who
apologized for the above incident and then in 2000 made another derogatory joke about 
the
same congressman. The leader shall be forced to do aerobics exercises with Richard
Simmons on live television.

• The Failed Coup Amendment: Pertains to any top House leader who tried to orchestrate
the ouster in 1997 of his boss, then-House Speaker Newt Gingrich, and, when asked about
it later, did not tell the truth about his role. The leader shall be forced to tell 
the story of
George Washington and the cherry tree to every first-grader in Flower Mound.

• The Thanks for the Memories Amendment: Applies to any congressional leader who
spread a false report on the House floor that comedian Bob Hope had died. The leader 
shall
be forced to serve as an unpaid intern for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., for no 
less
than one year.

• The False Pretenses Fund-raiser: Relates to any congressional leader who had a fund-
raiser for his re-election campaign on Dec. 6 with Vice President Dick Cheney in 
Dallas, then
announced six days later that he had no intention of running again. The leader shall 
repay,
with interest, the more than $400,000 his campaign received from contributors.

• The Misleading Signs Amendment: Pertains to any congressional leader whose son has
lost a primary to replace him in Congress. If supporters put up signs stating Support 
the
Armey Flat Tax to confuse voters into thinking that the father was running for 
re-election,
the congressional leader shall remove the nails from each wood stake using his front 
teeth.

• The Father-Son Nepotism Amendment: Relates to any congressman who helped get his
son a job as the regional administrator for the General Services Administration in a 
city
whose name is Fort Worth. If the father and son said afterward that the son got the 
plum
patronage job on his own merits, then the congressional leader shall be forced to tell 
the
story of George Washington and the cherry tree to every second-grader in Flower Mound.

You get the idea. Dick Armey's career has been one long comic routine of cheap tricks, 
half-
truths and foolish remarks. In a few months, the area will start fresh with a new
congressman who can restore dignity to the office as the people's representative.

Good riddance.



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[CTRL] Sharon Doctrine for Iraq?

2002-10-18 Thread Euphorian
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From
http://www.iht.com/articles/73960.html


Copyright © 2002 The International Herald Tribune | www.iht.com

American policymakers awash in fantasy

William Pfaff IHT


Thursday, October 17, 2002


Re-educate the Iraqis?

PARIS Even before the newspaper reports of a plan for lasting military occupation of 
Iraq,
on the model of the post-World War II occupation of Japan, the debate over war with 
Iraq
was awash with unchecked fantasies about the future.

The debate has mostly consisted of unproved assertions about Iraq's weapons or lack of
them; about the threat that it does, or does not, pose to its neighborhood or Israel 
or the
United States; and about its connection, or lack of connection, with international 
terrorism.

It is a highly emotional argument untroubled by much fact. The outcome will apparently 
be
decided by whoever last has the president's ear. The Senate, constitutional custodian 
of the
power to go to war, has abdicated to George W. Bush, conceding to him greater 
discretion
than to any president in history. This is not the conduct of a serious government or a
serious nation.

War is a grave matter even for a country that fancies itself invincible. One does not 
attack
another society, inflict destruction upon it, kill its soldiers and people and send 
one's own
soldiers to death on the basis of speculation, hypothesis and partisan theories about 
the
future.

The United States has never before gone to war without a clear and factually
uncontroversial casus belli.

In the Gulf War it was Iraq's aggression against Kuwait. In Vietnam it was Communist
insurrection against a recognized government. The merits of America's intervention in 
these
wars were certainly controversial, but the facts of aggression, and the facts of 
insurrection,
were there.

Today there is as yet no incontrovertible fact that justifies war against Iraq. That 
is why
there is such a controversy. Sending the United Nations inspectors back might produce
some facts to replace speculation.

Bush supporters now have offered a new theory about American-led peaceful revolution in
the region, its democratization and peaceful economic transformation, with reform of
Islamic religious thought so as to reconcile Islam with modern Western culture. The 
newly
disclosed plan for military occupation of a defeated Iraq makes up part of this 
theory. The
occupation will reform and re-educate Iraq, supposedly in the way imperial Japan and
Nazi Germany were remade after 1945.

Only people who know little about Japan and Germany in the 1940s could make such an
assumption.

Historical ignorance, however deplorable, is not considered an impediment to 
policy-making
in today's Washington. But the people putting these ideas forward cannot pretend to be
ignorant of political Washington, the nature and preoccupations of the U.S. Congress 
today
and the temper of American public opinion.

The numbers offered in Washington concerning such a military occupation are between
75,000 and 100,000 troops. This is roughly one-fifth of the total personnel of the 
existing
regular army of the United States. And The cost of an occupation is estimated at some 
$16
billion per year. That is more than 4 percent of the total U.S. military budget for 
fiscal 2003,
including the post-Sept. 11 Bush administration's military budget increase.

There is no possibility whatever that the American government and public would make 
such
a commitment of men and money to Iraq.

Would other countries pay? Not if there had been no United Nations mandate for the war.

Europe after 1945 simply needed to have its economy rebuilt. That is what Marshall Plan
money accomplished. The Marshall Plan did not reform or transform European society, nor
was it expected to do so.

Japan, like Europe, had an advanced industry in 1941. It would not otherwise have been
able to put up a ferocious three-and-a-half-year defense against American offensives 
in the
Central and Southwestern Pacific and against the British/Indian advance in South Asia.

Japan in 1945 was also an intensely corporate, authoritarian and hierarchical society. 
By
leaving the emperor in place, and acting with his consent and authority, the MacArthur
occupation was able to conduct a peaceful reform of the Japanese government, economy
and educational system. The Japanese authorities policed the country, not the American
occupation.

There was no resistance. Would there be resistance to American occupation of Iraq? It 
is
another agreeable fantasy to think that American soldiers would be cheered as they
arrived, and be encouraged by the Iraqis to take over their country.

What would George W. Bush do, though, if the Iraqi army put up a serious fight, and if 
the
Iraqi public resisted an American occupation? What Ariel Sharon is doing? International
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[CTRL] [www.washtimes.com] Historical Hyperbole Hollowed

2002-10-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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PAINTED IN COLORS TOO STARK

Patrick J. Buchanan
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As two . . . sitting senators who served in World War II,
we see the next Hitler in Saddam Hussein. So write Ted
Stevens and John Warner in a column titled, Hitler's
Disciple in Baghdad, in The Washington Times. And they
recall for us the history of the run-up to that war:

Hitler ignored the surrender agreements after World War I.
He flaunted [sic] the Versailles peace treaty and the League
of Nations, which was formed to maintain world peace.

A modest dissent: Germany did not surrender in World War I.
It agreed to an armistice on Wilson's 14 Points, laid down
its arms, and sent its High Seas Fleet to the British base
at Scapa Flow.

And Versailles was no agreement. It was a Carthaginian
peace, a dictat, imposed on a disarmed Germany at the point
of a million bayonets, during a starvation blockade. Germany
was told if it did not sign the treaty that stripped it of a
tenth of its land and 8 million people, Marshal Foch would
march on Berlin.

Any law student will tell you a contract signed at the point
of a gun is invalid. Indeed, Hitler first won power
democratically on a pledge to overthrow the Versailles
regime, which, as America and Britain had come to recognize
by 1933, had been as unwise as it was unjust.

Hitler did walk out of the League of Nations. But leaving
was no more a crime than America's refusal to join in 1919.
Not a few Senate Republicans in 1919 believed the League of
Nations had been set up to preserve, not world peace, but a
British empire that had gobbled up the lion's share of
Germany's colonies after a war America had fought to make
the world safe for democracy.

Hitler's decision to rearm Germany was a breach of
Versailles, but his decision to build a navy one-third the
size of the Royal Navy was happily assented to by the
British government in negotiations.

[Hitler] occupied the Rhineland and invaded Austria. No one
tried to stop him, write Messrs. Stevens and Warner.

True, Hitler's remilitarization of the Rhineland was a
breach of Versailles and the Locarno Pact he had agreed to
honor. But if France did not think German soldiers on German
soil west of the Rhine was worth a war, why should America,
which had rejected Versailles and was never a party to
Locarno?

As for the Anschluss with Austria, no one tried to stop
Hitler in 1938. But in 1934, when Nazi thugs murdered
Chancellor Dollfuss and attempted a coup, someone did.
Mussolini sent troops to the Brenner Pass, flew to Vienna in
a show of solidarity with Austria, and invited the British
and French to Stresa, Italy, to join in a united front to
force Hitler to abide by Versailles and Locarno.

Mussolini, however, thought he had gotten Allied approval to
avenge Italy's 1896 defeat at Adowa in Abyssinia, modern-day
Ethiopia. But when he invaded Haile Selassie's slave empire,
London and Paris put League of Nations morality and moral
clarity ahead of vital interests and led the League of
Nations in imposing sanctions on their Stresa partner.

Thus, when Hitler sent troops into the Rhineland in 1936,
and Paris and London sought Italy's support, Mussolini,
sanctioned and insulted by his old friends, had found a new
one — in Berlin.

In September of 1939, the world watched him invade Poland,
the senators write. Not so. Stalin joined Hitler in the
invasion and brutally occupied eastern Poland. Britain and
France declared war. Why? Because they had rashly and
insanely given war guarantees to the Warsaw regime of the
dissolute Col. Beck, who had collaborated with Hitler in the
rape of Czechoslovakia.

The forgotten truths of 1919-1939? Munich was not the only,
nor even the worst blunder. Versailles had made another war
inevitable. Britain should have put moral clarity on the
shelf and looked out for its vital interests first. Its war
guarantee to Poland did not save Poland, it only turned
Hitler to the west. Thus, Western Europe was overrun, 50
million people perished, and Stalin emerged triumphant with
10 more Christian countries enslaved.

We see the next Hitler in Saddam, write Messrs. Stevens
and Warner. Well, let's see. Hitler conquered all of Europe
from the Arctic to the Aegean and from the Atlantic to
Stalingrad. And Saddam? He invaded Kuwait, a sandbox half
the size of Denmark, and got tossed out after a 100-hour
ground war. His country has been overflown 40,000 times by
U.S. and British planes and he has not been able to shoot a
single plane down. He has no navy, a fourth-rate air force,
a shrunken, demoralized army. His economy is not 1 percent
of ours.

No, senators, this is not the Fuhrer and the Republican
Guard is not the Wehrmacht. As Marx said, history repeats
itself, first as tragedy, then as farce.



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[CTRL] U.S. softens Iraq draft

2002-10-18 Thread Euphorian
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From
http://www.iht.com/articles/74143.html


Copyright © 2002 The International Herald Tribune | www.iht.com

U.S. softens Iraq draft

Brian Knowlton International Herald Tribune


Friday, October 18, 2002


New wording calls for greater UN role

WASHINGTON Seeking to end an impasse with France over Iraq and to ease widespread
opposition at the UN to its threats of war, the United States on Thursday offered a 
revised
resolution giving more weight to arms inspectors' findings and calling for further 
Security
Council consultations before any decision to attack Baghdad, diplomats said.

The new draft moves the Bush administration nearer to the majority stance on the 
Security
Council, which wants a UN role in any decision to attack Iraq over its biological, 
chemical
and nuclear weapons programs and its defiance of past UN demands.

It fell short, however, of the French insistence on a second resolution to authorize 
war if,
and only if, the Security Council decided that Iraq had unacceptably impeded returning 
UN
arms inspectors.

It now all depends on Washington and Paris, said a Security Council diplomat.

France was studying the new draft, but a Foreign Ministry spokesman, Francois 
Rivasseau,
said that the two-day debate on Iraq before the Security Council, concluding Thursday,
showed broad international support for the French position.

Nation after nation at the United Nations has advocated an early return of weapons
inspectors to Iraq and urged the council to warn Washington against military action.

Several U.S. allies - the European Union, Canada, Australia and New Zealand - backed 
the
U.S. stance that Iraq, which has flouted UN resolutions for years, should be told in 
clear and
tough terms that it must grant inspectors unrestricted access to all sites. None of 
the allies,
however, called for a resolution authorizing military action.

The new U.S. draft foresees a return to the Security Council after UN arms inspectors
report on their progress - which could take many months. Unlike in the original U.S. 
draft,
the United States would not be given presumptive UN clearance to determine if Iraq was
cooperating sufficiently.

Nothing in the draft, however, would prevent the United States from deciding to attack 
Iraq
after the Security Council began its consultations.

The United States has increased pressure in public venues and in diplomatic corridors 
to
persuade France to join in its approach. France is pondering the new U.S. approach,
diplomats said.

It's a matter of whether the French can swallow this or whether they keep pushing 
until
the U.S. goes over the brink and decides to walk away, a diplomat close to the 
Security
Council said.

A U.S. spokesman denied earlier news reports that the United States had dropped its
demand for a single resolution authorizing use of force.

We have not and will not back away from one resolution, said the spokesman by
telephone from the United Nations. We want a resolution with full authority in the 
first and
final resolution.

The United States continued to press France, one of the five permanent Security Council
members, to drop its insistence on a two-resolution approach. One Bush administration
official was quoted as saying that Washington was giving Paris one last shot. Another
cautioned that Washington's patience was not going to last forever.

France's position enjoys backing from two other permanent members, Russia and China.

Britain, the fifth permanent member, supports U.S. calls for a tough line on Iraq, 
even while
remaining open to a Security Council compromise. Ambassador Jeremy Greenstock said
that intense efforts were under way to reach an accord acceptable to all. We're 
looking for
unity in the council, he said.

But President Jacques Chirac of France, speaking Wednesday, indicated no softening of 
the
French stance. In a statement seen by some as a veto threat, Chirac said that France
wanted a resolution in line with the interests of the region as we see them. If that 
failed,
he added, France, as a member of the Security Council and a permanent member, will
assume its responsibilities.

And in Lebanon on Thursday, Chirac told the Parliament in Beirut: Military action, 
the last
option, is not a foregone conclusion.

The U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, John Negroponte, briefed Bush and his senior
advisers Wednesday that a majority of the 15-member Security Council appeared to
disagree with the U.S. position.

But Bush's feeling, sources told The Washington Post, was that he had made good on his
pledge to consult the United Nations; it would not be his fault if agreement were not
reached. If war came without a resolution, a source was quoted as saying, The French 
will
be responsible for it.

A senior State Department official played down the U.S.-$ French divide, however.

The French really do want to be with us, he told The New York Times. The French are
worried that if the first resolution authorizes all 

[CTRL] Rebuilding Iraq: Japan Is No Model

2002-10-18 Thread Alamaine Ratliff
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From: Euphorian




Rebuilding Iraq: Japan Is No Model


By Chalmers Johnson
Chalmers Johnson is president of the Japan Policy Research Institute. His latest book 
is Blowback: The Costs and Consequences of American Empire (Owl Books, 2001).

October 17 2002

According to press reports, the White House is developing a plan, modeled on the 
postwar occupation of Japan, to install an American-led military government in Iraq. 
Administration officials said Iraq would be governed by a senior American military 
officer, who would assume the role that Gen. Douglas MacArthur played in Japan after 
its surrender. The plan calls for war-crimes trials of Iraqi leaders and a transition 
to an elected civilian government after a few years of American occupation.

The complete article can be viewed at:
http://www.latimes.com/la-oe-chalmers17oct17,0,7814543.story

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[CTRL] Posse Comitatus law

2002-10-18 Thread Euphorian
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WSWS : News  Analysis : North America

Bush seizes on Washington-area sniper attacks to deploy military for domestic policing

Deployment of Army planes breaches Posse Comitatus law

By Bill Vann
18 October 2002

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The Pentagon has deployed sophisticated military spy planes in the Washington
metropolitan area as part of the manhunt for the sniper who has fatally shot nine 
people in
a killing spree in suburban Virginia and Maryland.

The decision to use the military in an ongoing criminal investigation is virtually
unprecedented and constitutes a clear breach of the Posse Comitatus Act, a 125-year-old
law barring the armed forces from participating in law enforcement.

Pentagon and Justice Department lawyers huddled on the issue and came up with a set of
protocols aimed at circumventing the law. While the US Army will operate the planes, 
each
will carry an FBI agent aboard who will serve as an intermediary between soldiers in 
the
plane and police forces on the ground.

The RC-7 aircraft are equipped with electro-optical and infrared sensors and are able 
to
conduct surveillance over large areas during both day and night. The planes are also 
able
to instantly transmit high-resolution imagery to the ground.

The latest victim in the sniper killings was a 47-year-old woman who worked as an
intelligence analyst for the FBI, one of the agencies that requested military 
intervention in
the case. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld signed an order deploying the aircraft 
on
Tuesday night.

Involvement in the manhunt for the sniper may not be the military’s only connection to 
the
case. According to law-enforcement officials, the FBI has also asked the Pentagon for 
a list
of recently discharged soldiers who went through one of the military’s sniper training
schools.

The military deployment in the search is only part of a massive mobilization of federal
resources. Hundreds of FBI, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, and even Secret
Service agents have been assigned to the case.

The timing as well as the scope of this response suggests that the Bush administration 
is
once again exploiting a tragedy and public fears to press an anti-democratic political
agenda: to accustom the population to the militarization of American society, 
strengthen
federal police powers, and implement sweeping governmental changes.

The first of the shootings took place October 2, just one day after the newly created
Northern Command began its operations. The command for the first time places a general
in charge of military personnel whose theater of operations is the US itself.

Air Force General Ralph E. Eberhart, the chief of the Northern Command, called last 
July for
the military to be granted greater power to operate within the US as part of the Bush
administration’s “war on terrorism.”

“My view has been that Posse Comitatus will constantly be under review as we mature 
this
command,” the General told the New York Times in an interview. “... There are some
situations where there’s no other alternatives, and federal forces have to be used to 
secure
the safety and security of our people.”

The general’s comments echoed the views expressed by the right-wing civilian leadership
of the Pentagon, which is pressing for an expanded role for the military in domestic
policing. Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, for example, told a congressional 
panel
last year that he “strongly agreed” with those advocating a sweeping reexamination of 
the
Posse Comitatus doctrine.

The act, passed in 1878 to end military occupation of the Reconstruction-era South,
prohibits the armed forces from enforcing civil laws “except in cases and under
circumstances authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress.”

In recent years, successive administrations have whittled away at the restriction,
particularly in relation to the “war on drugs,” allowing the use of military equipment,
training and facilities to aid police agencies. Anything more than that, however, is 
supposed
to require the president’s declaration of a national emergency.

Bush administration measures have already made significant inroads into the Posse
Comitatus restrictions. The deployment of armed National Guardsmen at airports
nationwide was undertaken under a federal initiative, but the White House requested 
that
state governors order the deployment to provide a legal fig leaf for the de facto 
violation of
the Posse Comitatus law.

While providing little in the way of added safety for air passengers, the deployment 
had the
effect of accustoming the population to the daily stationing of armed troops in public 
places.

Meanwhile, there have been persistent reports of the use of military intelligence for
domestic spying, both against Arab and Muslim communities in the US, as well as at
demonstrations, such as the protest that accompanied last 

[CTRL] God's Court Jester

2002-10-18 Thread Euphorian
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Oct 16, 2002

Heaven Help Us: The Utterances Of God's Court Jester

DANIEL RUTH


Y ou really have to wonder whether Jerry Falwell gets up every morning and sticks his 
head
in a microwave oven at full power for about 20 minutes - just to make sure he's really 
good
and stupid for the rest of the day.

Theology's answer to India's bus system was at it again recently when he was 
interviewed
on ``60 Minutes.''

It's merely a guess, but you have to suspect the producers selected Falwell not 
because he
represents any sort of religious expertise but because they were reasonably assured the
Moral Moron would say something deliciously dense.

And, of course, they were absolutely right.

When it comes to running true to form, Jerry Falwell is the Vernal Equinox of 
vacuousness.

During his televised interview, in which he deftly managed to expose himself once 
again as
dumber than a sack of hairspray, Falwell opined that he thought Mohammed was a
terrorist.

``I read enough of the history of his life by both Muslim and, and, non- Muslims, that 
he
was a violent man, a man of war,'' Jerry Clueless said. ``Jesus set the example for 
love, as
did Moses. And I think Mohammed set an opposite example.''

In the course of a few moments, Falwell, a theological anthrax spore, had managed to
offend the adherents of a faith held dear by more than a billion people around the 
world.

They were not amused.

Loaded Question?

Where did this twerp go to divinity school? Our Lady of Perpetual Perniciousness?

After a global cacophony of protest during the weekend, Minister Malaprop apologized. 
Sort
of.

``I sincerely apologize that certain statements of mine made during an interview for 
the
September 30 edition of CBS's `60 Minutes' were harmful to the feelings of many
Muslims,'' he said in a statement.

But this is a chap who adheres to his own twisted interpretation of a persecution 
complex.
He attempted to blame reporter Bob Simon for being the dark hand of fate that led to 
his
portrayal as God's court jester.

``Unfortunately,'' whined the Vicar of Vituperation, ``I answered one controversial and
loaded question at the conclusion of an hourlong interview, which I should not have
answered.''

Is that so? A loaded question?

Here is the question Simon asked the Elmer Gantry of Disingenuousness: ``You wrote an
approving piece recently about a book called `Unveiling Islam.' And you, the authors 
of the
book, wrote, `The Muslim who commits acts of violence in jihad does so with the 
approval
of Mohammed.' Do you believe that?''

``I do,'' the man of the froth responded.

What was so loaded about the question?

Falwell, a man abundantly experienced in dealing with interviews, either agreed with 
the
assertions made in the book, or he didn't. It wasn't as if the reporter had asked the 
used-
shark salesman of Scripture his opinions about the human genome project.

Sorry Excuse

Responsible people in this country, including President Bush, have made every effort 
since
the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks to include the Muslim faith in all manner of
interdenominational services to help forge a greater unity among diverse cultures and
religious beliefs.

But not the likes of Falwell, who, hiding behind the charade of their calling, have 
continued
to offer their unctuous bigotry, followed by wink- and-nod apologies.

It was the Andrew Dice Clay of the New Testament who, shortly after the murders of 
3,000
people, suggested it was somehow the fault of ``pagans, and the abortionists, and the
feminists, and the gays, and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an 
alternative
lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way - all of them who have tried to 
secularize
America - I point the finger in their face and say, `You helped this happen.' ''

Good grief, the Barnacle Bill of the Bible had to know after the dust-up that followed 
those
remarks that calling Mohammed a violent terrorist on national television would not help
elevate his reputation for tolerance.

Over the course of his career as a holy huckster, Falwell has spent as much time
apologizing as he has proselytizing. Little wonder the bully of the pulpit is such a 
sorry
excuse for a minister.

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[CTRL] Falwell's follies

2002-10-18 Thread Euphorian
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From URL @ bottom

Falwell's follies

Bill Berkowitz - WorkingForChange

10.16.02 - What do civil libertarians, gays, feminists, pro-choice advocates, pagans 
and
Muhammad have in common? Within the past year or so, they've all felt the verbal wrath 
of
the Rev. Jerry Falwell. For years, the Rev. Falwell's message of hate has been mostly a
domestic matter. His recent remarks on CBS' 60 Minutes calling Muhammad a 
terrorist,
however, caused an immediate international commotion.

Last year, shortly after the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the 
Pentagon,
the Rev. Falwell told Pat Robertson's 700 Club audience that … I really believe 
that the
pagans and the abortionists and the feminists and the gays and the lesbians who are
actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle... all of them who have tried to 
secularize
America. I point the finger in their face and say, 'You helped this happen.'

Besieged by critics and perceived as being pretty damned nasty, the Rev. Falwell became
apologetic. Well… sort of. A few days after teeing off on the laundry list of his 
life-long
enemies, Falwell claimed that his comments were made during a theological discussion 
on
a Christian television program [and they] were taken out of their context and 
reported, and
that my thoughts -- reduced to sound bites -- have detracted from the spirit of this 
time of
mourning. Like the politician who tells a racist joke and then claims he didn't know 
he was
being recorded, Falwell claimed his words were meant only for Christian true 
believers, and
not for the public at large. That excuse doesn't change the nature of his comments.

Falwell: 'Muhammad was a terrorist'

Flash forward nearly 13 months: On the October 6th edition of 60 Minutes, the Rev.
Falwell told CBS' Bob Simon: I think Mohammed was a terrorist. I read enough by both
Muslims and non-Muslims, [to decide] that he was a violent man, a man of war. In my
opinion, Jesus set the example for love, as did Moses, and I think Mohammed set an
opposite example.

In short order, with critical comments against him mounting both at home and abroad,
Falwell claimed that he was a victim of sound bite journalism - the real culprit was 
that
Satanesque excuse for a journalist, Bob Simon.

The Rev. Falwell is no victim. His situation is in no way comparable for example to 
the time
Connie Chung ambushed Newt Gingrich's unsuspecting mother and got her to say some
nasty stuff on network television about Hillary Clinton. The Rev. Falwell is 
television-savvy;
he's been a guest on more television programs in a year than most all other religious
figures will appear on in a lifetime. On his website, the Rev. frequently informs the 
faithful
of his upcoming talking-head schedule.

Playing the I was tricked card, the Rev. Falwell told WORLD, the weekly evangelical 
news
magazine, that he should have known that CBS would use the comments to stir up
conflict and animosity. It wasn't that his comments were hateful, the Rev. seemed to 
be
was saying. It was the fact that CBS would use them that was the problem.

According to Marvin Olasky, World's editor-in-chief, Falwell said that Simon had 
called him
back once the uproar began, fishing for more, and that he had complained about CBS
extracting from 1 1/2 hours of interview tape that divisive side remark. 'I believe you
exploited me and took advantage of me as a person,' he told Mr. Simon, who quickly got 
off
the phone, Olasky reported.

Olasky rushed to Falwell's defense, and in his World column he declared Simon to be a
bigot. Olasky claims that the segment on 60 Minutes was meant to focus on Christians
and Israel, not Islam, but Mr. Simon in passing asked Jerry Falwell if he thought
Muhammad approved of violence, and Mr. Falwell fell into the trap. CBS then promoted 60
Minutes with the 'terrorist' sound bite, in full knowledge that it was incidental to 
the thrust
of the piece. The evident goal: Hype the program, build the audience, and never mind 
the
lack of context.

Shooting off his mouth

The Rev. Falwell has made a career out of shooting off his mouth. It is only during 
these
past few years that his remarks have become part of the greater public discourse. 
Claiming
as he did that the television figure Tinky Winky was gay was one thing -- laughable 
for its
utter absurdity -- but branding the head of a religion a terrorist is a much more 
serious
matter.

On October 11, Canadian Press reported that at least five people were killed in Hindu-
Muslim rioting and police gunfire in western India. According to Canadian Press, The
violence erupted during a general strike to protest remarks by the Rev. Falwell. In 
Iran to
get that country's support for a tough UN resolution against Iraq, British Foreign 
Secretary
Jack Straw said he regarded Falwell's comments as much an insult to me as a Christian 
as
they are to Muslims.

Finally, on Saturday, October 12, the Rev. Falwell issued an apology. According to 

[CTRL] Career Opportunities - WHITEHOUSE.ORG

2002-10-18 Thread Euphorian
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[CTRL] Cheney: Dove

2002-10-18 Thread Euphorian
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From http://slate.msn.com/?id=2072609

Hot linques @ site

chatterbox
Gossip, speculation, and scuttlebutt about politics.



Dick Cheney, Dove
More on why Bush père's defense secretary didn't want to go to Baghdad.
By Timothy Noah
Posted Wednesday, October 16, 2002, at 4:53 PM PT

Violating a core precept of journalism, Chatterbox put the most

interesting part of yesterday's item at the bottom. It was a Dick Cheney quote that 
Patrick
Tyler included in a New York Times story published April 13, 1991, a little more than a
month after the shooting stopped in the Gulf war. The quote was interesting because it
examined hard questions about overthrowing Saddam Hussein that James Fallows
http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2002/11/fallows.htm
addresses in the November Atlantic Monthly—questions that Cheney (then defense
secretary, now vice president) no longer shows the slightest interest in as the nation
prepares to go to war with Iraq once again. Violating another core precept of 
journalism,
Chatterbox will repeat the Cheney quote in full:

If you're going to go in and try to topple Saddam Hussein, you have to go to Baghdad. 
Once
you've got Baghdad, it's not clear what you do with it. It's not clear what kind of
government you would put in place of the one that's currently there now. Is it going 
to be a
Shia regime, a Sunni regime or a Kurdish regime? Or one that tilts toward the 
Baathists, or
one that tilts toward the Islamic fundamentalists? How much credibility is that 
government
going to have if it's set up by the United States military when it's there? How long 
does the
United States military have to stay to protect the people that sign on for that 
government,
and what happens to it once we leave?

Now, you might argue that Cheney was just being a loyal Cabinet member, advancing
arguments of his commander in chief that he didn't particularly agree with. The 
trouble with
this interpretation is that Cheney expressed similar sentiments five years later in a 
Gulf War
documentary produced for PBS's Frontline. Describing the decision to end the war on 
Feb.
27, 1991—a cease-fire took effect the next day, and for the most part the United States
stuck with it —Cheney said:

A: [T]here was no sense, I don't believe on the part of any of us who were there that 
day
that there was any disagreement with this approach. There might have been some 
different
views down further in the ranks—General McCaffrey and the guys in the 24th fought a
major engagement the day after the cease- fire obviously against a brigade of Iraqi
Republican Guard. But there was no sense at that time that there was any different 
point of
view that we ought to keep the conflict going much longer. …

Q: You were comfortable personally with this?

A: I was.

[…]

[A few weeks later, when the uprisings occurred among the Shi'a in the South and the
Kurds in the North,] I was not an enthusiast about getting U.S. forces and going into 
Iraq.
We were there in the southern part of Iraq to the extent we needed to be there to 
defeat
his forces and to get him out of Kuwait, but the idea of going into Baghdad, for 
example, or
trying to topple the regime wasn't anything I was enthusiastic about. I felt there was 
a real
danger here that you would get bogged down in a long drawn-out conflict, that this was 
a
dangerous, difficult part of the world; if you recall we were all worried about the 
possibility
of Iraq coming apart, the Iranians restarting the conflict that they'd had in the 
eight-year
bloody war with the Iranians and the Iraqis over eastern Iraq. We had concerns about 
the
Kurds in the north, the Turks get very nervous every time we start to talk about an
independent Kurdistan.

Plus there was the notion that you were going to set yourself a new war aim that we 
hadn't
talked to anybody about. That you hadn't gotten Congress to approve, hadn't talked to 
the
American people about. You're going to find yourself in a situation where you've 
redefined
your war aims and now set up a new war aim that in effect would detract from the
enormous success you just had. What we set out to do was to liberate Kuwait and to
destroy his offensive capability, that's what I said repeatedly in my public 
statements. That
was the mission I was given by the President. That's what we did. Now you can say, 
well,
you should have gone to Baghdad and gotten Saddam. I don't think so. [Italics
Chatterbox's.] I think if we had done that we would have been bogged down there for a
very long period of time with the real possibility we might not have succeeded.

In the 1996 interview, Cheney actually managed to out-dove today's liberals who oppose
going to war (by now, you should remember, Cheney was chairman of Halliburton, an oil-
drilling company that did extensive business in the Islamic world) by suggesting that
Saddam's ouster would have little beneficial effect:

[I]f Saddam wasn't there, his successor probably wouldn't be notably friendlier 

Re: [CTRL] Falwell's follies

2002-10-18 Thread Lloyd Miller
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===
Rev. Falwell told CBS' Bob Simon: I think Mohammed was a terrorist. I
read enough by both Muslims and non-Muslims, [to decide] that he was a
violent man, a man of war. In my opinion, Jesus set the example for
love, as did Moses, and I think Mohammed set an opposite example.

How about trying to deal with the substance of the above. . .?  Islam
was founded as a tool of Arab tribal warfare and then later served as a
tool of Arab Imperialism!

That kind of thing does not appear in the New Testament though the Old
Testament is rank with it!  As did Moses is an idiot add-in to pacify
the Jewish community!

Lloyd Miller, Research Director, A-albionic
Research


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From URL @ bottom

Falwell's follies

Bill Berkowitz - WorkingForChange

10.16.02 - What do civil libertarians, gays, feminists, pro-choice
advocates, pagans and Muhammad have in common? Within the past year or
so, they've all felt the verbal wrath of the Rev. Jerry Falwell. For
years, the Rev. Falwell's message of hate has been mostly a domestic
matter. His recent remarks on CBS' 60 Minutes calling Muhammad a
terrorist, however, caused an immediate international commotion.

Last year, shortly after the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center
and the Pentagon, the Rev. Falwell told Pat Robertson's 700 Club
audience that . I really believe that the pagans and the abortionists
and the feminists and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying
to make that an alternative lifestyle... all of them who have tried to
secularize America. I point the finger in their face and say, 'You
helped this happen.'

Besieged by critics and perceived as being pretty damned nasty, the Rev.
Falwell became apologetic. Well. sort of. A few days after teeing off on
the laundry list of his life-long enemies, Falwell claimed that his
comments were made during a theological discussion on a Christian
television program [and they] were taken out of their context and
reported, and that my thoughts -- reduced to sound bites -- have
detracted from the spirit of this time of mourning. Like the politician
who tells a racist joke and then claims he didn't know he was being
recorded, Falwell claimed his words were meant only for Christian true
believers, and not for the public at large. That excuse doesn't change
the nature of his comments.

Falwell: 'Muhammad was a terrorist'

Flash forward nearly 13 months: On the October 6th edition of 60
Minutes, the Rev. Falwell told CBS' Bob Simon: I think Mohammed was a
terrorist. I read enough by both Muslims and non-Muslims, [to decide]
that he was a violent man, a man of war. In my opinion, Jesus set the
example for love, as did Moses, and I think Mohammed set an opposite
example.

In short order, with critical comments against him mounting both at home
and abroad, Falwell claimed that he was a victim of sound bite
journalism - the real culprit was that Satanesque excuse for a
journalist, Bob Simon.

The Rev. Falwell is no victim. His situation is in no way comparable for
example to the time Connie Chung ambushed Newt Gingrich's unsuspecting
mother and got her to say some nasty stuff on network television about
Hillary Clinton. The Rev. Falwell is television-savvy; he's been a guest
on more television programs in a year than most all other religious
figures will appear on in a lifetime. On his website, the Rev.
frequently informs the faithful of his upcoming talking-head schedule.

Playing the I was tricked card, the Rev. Falwell told WORLD, the
weekly evangelical news magazine, that he should have known that CBS
would use the comments to stir up conflict and animosity. It wasn't
that his comments were hateful, the Rev. seemed to be was saying. It was
the fact that CBS would use them that was the problem.

According to Marvin Olasky, World's editor-in-chief, Falwell said that
Simon had called him back once the uproar began, fishing for more, and
that he had complained about CBS extracting from 1 1/2 hours of
interview tape that divisive side remark. 'I believe you exploited me
and took advantage of me as a person,' he told Mr. Simon, who quickly
got off the phone, Olasky reported.

Olasky rushed to Falwell's defense, and in his World column he declared
Simon to be a bigot. Olasky claims that the segment on 60 Minutes
was meant to focus on Christians and Israel, not Islam, but Mr. Simon
in passing asked Jerry Falwell if he thought Muhammad approved of
violence, and Mr. Falwell fell into the trap. CBS then promoted 60
Minutes with the 'terrorist' sound bite, in full knowledge that it was
incidental to the thrust of the piece. The evident goal: Hype the
program, build the audience, and never mind the lack of context.

Shooting off his mouth

The 

[CTRL] Libertarian International Conference, London, 9-10 November

2002-10-18 Thread Dr Chris R. Tame
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LIBERTY 2002: THE EUROPEAN CONFERENCE OF
THE LIBERTARIAN INTERNATIONAL AND THE LIBERTARIAN ALLIANCE

A CONFERENCE ON INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM, THE FREE MARKET AND CIVIL LIBERTIES

***



Saturday 9 November - Sunday 10 November, 2002

Saturday:10.00am-6.00pm
Sunday:  10.00am-11.00pm

The National Liberal Club
Whitehall Place
London
SW1A 2HE
England


Speakers:


*Professor Antony Flew - A Critique of Welfare Rights
*Alan Forester - Why Libertarians Should Take Children Seriously
*Professor John Burton - Economic Liberalism Revisited
*Dr Eamon Butler - Third Way Interventionism in the UK and Its Lessons
*Professor Terence Kealey - Science Is Not a Public Good - And Requires
No Public Support
*Stefan Blankertz - Nature or Nurture: A Libertarian Perspective on the
Debate on Intelligence
*Francois-Rene Rideau - Government is the Rule of Black Magic: On
Human Sacrifice and Other Modern Superstitions
*Sarah Lawrence - The Semblance of Consent: How Tyrants Use the Illusion
of Freedom
*Professor Norman Barry - Business Ethics and Regulation: A Libertarian
View
*Robin Ramsay - In Defence of Paranoia: Myths and Realities of
Conspiracy Theory
*Professor Tibor Machan - Are Political Principles Stable?
*Richard Miniter - The Reality of the Middle East and Libertarian Policy
Dilemmas
*Dr. Ken Minogue - The Chameleon Servility and Its Contemporary
Camouflage
*Panel Discussion: LI and LA Representatives - Liberty and Strategy in
International Context
Chaired by Hubert Jongen, Chairman of the Libertarian International.
*Panel Discussion: Mark Littlewood, Dr. Sean Gabb  Dr. Chris R. Tame -
The Destruction of Civil Liberties in the UK and Its Lessons

Other Features:

*Special Banquet: Including distinguished Guest Speakers and the
presentation of the Libertarian Alliance's Liberty Awards for 2002

*The Think Tank Room: Displays and sale of publications by major
British think tanks and political journals: Adam Smith Institute;
Institute of Economic Affairs; CIVITAS; FOREST; Social Affairs Unit;
Independent Healthcare Association; Social Market Foundation;
Spiked; Demos; The Fabian Society; The European Foundation; LIBERTY;
Salisbury Review; Lobster and others.


About The Speakers:

*Professor Norman Barry is Professor of Politics at the University of
Buckingham. His many books and monographs include 'Hayek's Social and
Economic Philosophy', 'An Introduction to Modern Political Theory', 'The
Morality of Business Enterprise', 'Classical Liberalism in an Age of
Post-Communism', 'Business Ethics', 'On Classical Liberalism and
Libertarianism', 'Welfare', 'The New Right', 'The Invisible Hand in
Economics and Politics: A Study in Two Conflicting Explanations of
Society, End-States and Processes', and, for the LA, 'An Individualist's
View of Marriage and the Family'. The University of Buckingham website
is: http://www.buckingham.ac.uk

*Dr. Stefan Blankwertz is one of Germany's leading libertarian thinkers
and activists. The German representative of the Libertarian
International, he is the author of many books, pamphlets and papers (in
German and English), including 'Courts, Judges and the Law in the Free
City', 'Has the State Always Been There?', 'Gestalt Therapy: A
Libertarian Approach to the Social Psychology of Unhappiness' and (for
the LA) 'Towards A Libertarian Theory of Fascism'.

*Professor John Burton is currently Professor of Economics at the
University of Westminster. He has published extensively in such journals
as 'Economic Journal', 'International Journal of Social Economics',
'Scottish Journal of Political Economy', 'Journal of Industrial
Affairs', 'Journal of Labour Research', 'Economic Affairs', 'Research in
Labour Economics', 'British Journal of Industrial Relations',
'Manchester School', 'Three Banks Review', and 'Government Union
Review'.   His books and monographs include 'Wage Inflation', 'The
Consequences of Mr. Keynes', 'The Job-Support Machine', 'Employment
Policy, Trade Unions and Society', and 'Picking Losers: The Political
Economy of Industrial Policy' and he has edited such works as 'Hayek's
'Serfdom' Revisited', 'Keynes's General Theory: Fifty Years On', and
'Industrial Policy'.  He is a member of the Academic Advisory Council of
the Institute of Economic Affairs, a member of the Editorial Board of a
number of academic journals, Executive Co-Editor of 'Business Studies',
and on the Advisory Council of the LA.

*Dr Eamon Butler is Director of the Adam Smith Institute, the UK's
leading free market think tank. He is the author of many books including
'Hayek: His Contribution to the Economic and Political Thought of Our
Time', 'Milton Friedman: A Guide to His Thought', 'Ludwig Von Mises:
Fountainhead of the Modern Microeconomics Revolution' and 'Forty
Centuries of Wage and Price Controls'. He has also edited and
contributed to countless ASI reports on many policy issues, appears on
TV regularly, and contributes frequently to the press. The ASI website
is: 

[CTRL] THE CORPORATION AMERICA

2002-10-18 Thread Joshua Tinnin
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http://prorev.com/corpsandus.htm

THE CORPORATION  AMERICA


Rewriting history to justify 
greed


Sam Smith


THIS ORIGINALLY APPEARED IN 'SHADOWS OF 
HOPE,' PUBLISHED BY INDIANA UNIVERITY PRESS, 1994 




  Encomiums to the wonders of market forces 
  fill speeches and media reports. One National Public Radio reporter even went 
  so far as to describe a form of government called market democracy, apparently 
  a blend of the Bill of Rights and the Wall Street Journal editorial 
  page.
  In fact, most free workers in this country 
  were self-employed well into the 19th century. They were thus economic as well 
  as political citizens. Further, until the last decades of the 19th 
  century, Americans believed in a degree of fair distribution of wealth that 
  would shock many today. James L. Huston writes in the American Historical 
  Review:
  Americans believed that if property were 
  concentrated in the hands of a few in a republic, those few would use their 
  wealth to control other citizens, seize political power, and warp the republic 
  into an oligarchy. Thus to avoid descent into despotism or oligarchy, 
  republics had to possess an equitable distribution of wealth.
  Such a distribution, in theory at least, 
  came from enjoying the "fruits of one's labor" but no more. Businesses that 
  sprung up didn't flourish on competition because there generally wasn't any 
  and, besides, cooperation worked better. You didn't need two banks or two drug 
  stores in the average town. Prices and business ethics were not regulated by 
  the marketplace but by a complicated cultural code and the fact that the 
  banker went to church with his depositors. Although the practice was centuries 
  old, the term capitalism -- and thus the religion -- didn't even exist until 
  the middle of the 19th century.
  Americans were intensely commercial, but 
  this spirit was propelled not by Reaganesque fantasies about competition but 
  by the freedom that engaging in business provided from the hierarchical social 
  and economic system of the monarchy. Business, including the exchange as well 
  as the making of goods, was seen as a natural state allowing a community and 
  individuals to get ahead and to prosper without the blessing of 
  nobility.
  In the beginning, if you wanted to form a 
  corporation you needed a state charter and had to prove it was in the public 
  interest, convenience and necessity. During the entire colonial period only 
  about a half-dozen business corporations were chartered; between the end of 
  the Revolution and 1795 this rose to about a 150. Jefferson to the end opposed 
  liberal grants of corporate charters and argued that states should be allowed 
  to intervene in corporate matters or take back a charter if 
  necessary.
  With the pressure for more commerce and 
  indications that corporate grants were becoming a form of patronage, states 
  began passing free incorporation laws and before long Massachusetts had thirty 
  times as many corporations as there were in all of Europe.
  
  
  


  
How states once controlled 
corporations
The purposes for which every such corporation shall be established 
shall be distinctly and definitely specified in the articles of 
association, and it shall not be lawful for said corporation to 
appropriate its funds to any other purpose. -- State of Wisconsin, 
1864
The charter or acts of association of every corporation hereafter 
created may be amendable or repealed at the will of the general 
assembly. -- State of Rhode Island, 1857
[Legislators shall] alter, revoke or annul any charter of a corporate 
hereafter conferred . . . whenever in their opinion it may be injurious 
to citizens of the community. -- State of Pennsylvania, constitutional 
amendment, 1857.
  
  Still it wasn't until after the Civil War 
  that economic conditions turned sharply in favor of the large corporation. 
  These corporations, says Huston:
  . . . killed the republican theory of the 
  distribution of wealth and probably ended whatever was left of the political 
  theory of republicanism as well. . . .[The] corporation brought about a new 
  form of dependency. Instead of industry, frugality, and initiatives producing 
  fruits, underlings in the corporate hierarchy had to be aware of style, 
  manners, office politics, and choice of patrons -- very reminiscent of the Old 
  Whig corruption in England at the time of the revolution -- what is today 
  called "corporate culture."
  Concludes Huston:
  The rise of Big Business generated the 
  most important transformation of American life that North America has ever 
  experienced.
  By the end of the last century the Supreme 
  Court had declared corporations to be persons under the 14th Amendment, 
  entitled to the same protections as human beings. As Morton Mintz 

[CTRL] Please Do Not Lick Meat Mountain

2002-10-18 Thread Joshua Tinnin
-Caveat Lector-

from Mark Morford's Morning Fix email newsletter
http://sfgate.com/columnists/morford/archive/ :

**Please Do Not Lick Meat Mountain**
Poultry processor Pilgrim's Pride is recalling 27.4 million pounds of cooked
sandwich meat after warnings of possible contamination from the listeria
bacteria -- the largest meat recall in U.S. history, following the now
seemingly paltry recall of a mere 3 million pounds of meat by Empak Foods of
Milwaukee just last week due to E.coli, which makes for over 30 million
pounds of recalled meat in just a few days, and keeping in mind such recalls
happen all the time but that meat packers aren't legally required to report
such recalls to the media, and only do so when the meat is particularly
nasty or they could get their toxic parasitic asses sued, and let's not even
get started on what's actually in the meat or how a liquefied chemically
injected reconstituted chicken nugget thing gets made in the first place,
because it's just too early in the week, and you probably haven't even had
lunch yet, though you might want to avoid that processed turkey sandwich for
a while, just sayin'.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2002/10/14/financial0905EDT0013.DTL

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[CTRL] Should America Go to War? (fwd)

2002-10-18 Thread William Bacon
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I pledge Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to
the REPUBLIC for which it stands,  one Nation under God,indivisible,with
liberty and justice for all.

 visit my web site at
http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon My ICQ# is 79071904
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
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Subject: Should America Go to War?

http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/2002/10-21-2002/vo18no21_war.htm

Should America Go to War?
by William Norman Grigg

When our freedoms and sovereignty are threatened, we have to fight. But resuming the 
war on Iraq would actually empower a far greater threat - the United Nations.




When the Twin Towers collapsed on 9-11, the American public was told that everything 
changed, and an instant cliché was born. A year later, the Bush administration is 
striving to convince the public that its impending attack on Iraq is a vital part of 
the war on terrorism that began on Black Tuesday. But this is a deception.

If the Black Tuesday hijackers had been caught, if the Twin Towers still stood 
proudly, if the Pentagon remained unblemished, if the 3,000 innocent people slain that 
morning were still among the living, the Bush administration and the Power Elite 
behind it would still be pursuing, to the extent possible, the policies that have 
brought us to the brink of an unjustified, aggressive war on Iraq.

The impending war on Saddam Hussein's Iraqi regime will have nothing to do with the 
9-11 terrorist atrocity, or with protecting any rationally defined American national 
interest. These considerations were conspicuously absent from President Bush's 
September 12th address to the UN General Assembly. Indeed, apart from cursory 
references to the Black Tuesday attack, there was nothing in President Bush's speech 
that hadn't been said by Bill Clinton, or by Republican congressional leaders, during 
the last installment of the protracted Iraq crisis back in 1998.

Submitting to UN Power

The conduct of the Iraqi regime is a threat to the authority of the United Nations, 
and a threat to peace, stated Mr. Bush in his speech to the General Assembly. Iraq 
has answered a decade of U.N. demands with a decade of defiance. All the world now 
faces a test, and the United Nations a difficult and defining moment. Are Security 
Council resolutions to be honored and enforced, or cast aside without consequence? 
Will the United Nations serve the purpose of its founding, or will it be irrelevant?

The president reprised that theme in his September 14th national radio address. And he 
recited the same mantra in remarks for reporters at a Camp David press conference that 
same day: The U.N. will either be able to function as a peacekeeping body as we head 
into the 21st century, or it will be irrelevant. And that's what we're about to find 
out This is the chance for the United Nations to show some backbone and resolve as 
we confront the true challenges of the 21st century.

In this, as in so many other issues, Mr. Bush is following the same script as his 
predecessor. In a January 29, 1998 address to National Defense University, Bill 
Clinton urged Americans to prepare for military action against Iraq as part of an 
effort to write the international rules of the road for the 21st Century, protecting 
those who've joined the family of nations and isolating those who do not. Urging 
Americans to be strong and tough and mature enough to recognize that even the 
best-prepared, best-equipped force will suffer losses in action, Clinton predicted 
that a military strike would soon be launched against Iraq to force Saddam to comply 
with the . will of the United Nations and to advance the world body's arms control 
and nonproliferation agenda.

During a February 6, 1998 joint press conference with British Prime Minister Tony 
Blair, Clinton pointedly observed that the anticipated military strike on Iraq was 
intended to force the regime to fulfill all of the United Nations Security Council 
resolutions. Asked if the campaign would also seek Saddam's removal from power, 
Clinton replied: That is not what the United Nations has authorized us to do.

The only material difference between the Iraq policies of Bill Clinton and George W. 
Bush is this: Clinton adhered precisely to UN Security Council guidelines; Mr. Bush 
favors enforcement of UN Security Council dictates with the added objective of regime 
change. In fact, the president's enthusiasm to carry out the UN's decrees apparently 
exceeds that of the UN itself. But once again, Mr. Bush seems to be working from an 
updated version of an old script.

In a February 4, 1998 press conference, then-House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) 
insisted that Saddam will either agree to unlimited UN 

Re: [CTRL] Falwell's follies

2002-10-18 Thread thew
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Christianity wasn't used as a tool in European imperialism?






on 10/18/02 6:44 AM, Lloyd Miller at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How about trying to deal with the substance of the above. . .?  Islam
 was founded as a tool of Arab tribal warfare and then later served as a
 tool of Arab Imperialism!

That kind of thing does not appear in the New Testament though the Old
Testament is rank with it!  As did Moses is an idiot add-in to pacify
the Jewish community!


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Re: [CTRL] Sharon Doctrine for Iraq?

2002-10-18 Thread thew
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I'm no lover of Sharon - but he is really a red herring in this article.




on 10/18/02 3:20 AM, Euphorian at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 From
 http://www.iht.com/articles/73960.html


 Copyright © 2002 The International Herald Tribune | www.iht.com

 American policymakers awash in fantasy

 William Pfaff IHT


 Thursday, October 17, 2002


 Re-educate the Iraqis?

 PARIS Even before the newspaper reports of a plan for lasting military
 occupation of Iraq,
 on the model of the post-World War II occupation of Japan, the debate over war
 with Iraq
 was awash with unchecked fantasies about the future.

 The debate has mostly consisted of unproved assertions about Iraq's weapons or
 lack of
 them; about the threat that it does, or does not, pose to its neighborhood or
 Israel or the
 United States; and about its connection, or lack of connection, with
 international terrorism.

 It is a highly emotional argument untroubled by much fact. The outcome will
 apparently be
 decided by whoever last has the president's ear. The Senate, constitutional
 custodian of the
 power to go to war, has abdicated to George W. Bush, conceding to him greater
 discretion
 than to any president in history. This is not the conduct of a serious
 government or a
 serious nation.

 War is a grave matter even for a country that fancies itself invincible. One
 does not attack
 another society, inflict destruction upon it, kill its soldiers and people and
 send one's own
 soldiers to death on the basis of speculation, hypothesis and partisan
 theories about the
 future.

 The United States has never before gone to war without a clear and factually
 uncontroversial casus belli.

 In the Gulf War it was Iraq's aggression against Kuwait. In Vietnam it was
 Communist
 insurrection against a recognized government. The merits of America's
 intervention in these
 wars were certainly controversial, but the facts of aggression, and the facts
 of insurrection,
 were there.

 Today there is as yet no incontrovertible fact that justifies war against
 Iraq. That is why
 there is such a controversy. Sending the United Nations inspectors back might
 produce
 some facts to replace speculation.

 Bush supporters now have offered a new theory about American-led peaceful
 revolution in
 the region, its democratization and peaceful economic transformation, with
 reform of
 Islamic religious thought so as to reconcile Islam with modern Western
 culture. The newly
 disclosed plan for military occupation of a defeated Iraq makes up part of
 this theory. The
 occupation will reform and re-educate Iraq, supposedly in the way imperial
 Japan and
 Nazi Germany were remade after 1945.

 Only people who know little about Japan and Germany in the 1940s could make
 such an
 assumption.

 Historical ignorance, however deplorable, is not considered an impediment to
 policy-making
 in today's Washington. But the people putting these ideas forward cannot
 pretend to be
 ignorant of political Washington, the nature and preoccupations of the U.S.
 Congress today
 and the temper of American public opinion.

 The numbers offered in Washington concerning such a military occupation are
 between
 75,000 and 100,000 troops. This is roughly one-fifth of the total personnel of
 the existing
 regular army of the United States. And The cost of an occupation is estimated
 at some $16
 billion per year. That is more than 4 percent of the total U.S. military
 budget for fiscal 2003,
 including the post-Sept. 11 Bush administration's military budget increase.

 There is no possibility whatever that the American government and public would
 make such
 a commitment of men and money to Iraq.

 Would other countries pay? Not if there had been no United Nations mandate for
 the war.

 Europe after 1945 simply needed to have its economy rebuilt. That is what
 Marshall Plan
 money accomplished. The Marshall Plan did not reform or transform European
 society, nor
 was it expected to do so.

 Japan, like Europe, had an advanced industry in 1941. It would not otherwise
 have been
 able to put up a ferocious three-and-a-half-year defense against American
 offensives in the
 Central and Southwestern Pacific and against the British/Indian advance in
 South Asia.

 Japan in 1945 was also an intensely corporate, authoritarian and hierarchical
 society. By
 leaving the emperor in place, and acting with his consent and authority, the
 MacArthur
 occupation was able to conduct a peaceful reform of the Japanese government,
 economy
 and educational system. The Japanese authorities policed the country, not the
 American
 occupation.

 There was no resistance. Would there be resistance to American occupation of
 Iraq? It is
 another agreeable fantasy to think that American soldiers would be cheered as
 they
 arrived, and be encouraged by the Iraqis to take over their country.

 What would George W. Bush do, though, if the Iraqi army put up a serious
 fight, and if the
 

[CTRL] North Korea 'has two nuclear bombs'

2002-10-18 Thread klewis
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/10/18/
wkor18.xmlsSheet=/portal/2002/10/18/ixport.htmlsecureRefresh=
true_requestid=148343

Friday 18 October 2002
telegraph.co.uk

North Korea 'has two nuclear bombs'
By David Rennie in Washington
(Filed: 18/10/2002)
North Korea possesses two plutonium-based nuclear bombs, a
senior Bush administration official said yesterday. It was the first
official confirmation that a member of President Bush's Axis of Evil
has obtained nuclear weapons.

It is our assessment that North Korea has reprocessed before 1994
sufficient plutonium for one or two nuclear weapons, the official
said, asking to remain anonymous. When pressed he said North
Korea had two bombs.

A satellite image of the Yongbyon nuclear facility that may produce
weapons-grade uranium

A senior US official suggested that North Korea, which is ruled by
Kim Jong-il, an unpredictable, despotic leader, may have had
foreign help in creating its uranium enrichment programme.
The official told reporters in Washington that, according to US
studies of other attempts to produce enriched uranium: This has
never been done indigenously. . . these programmes are dependent
on support from the outside.

Donald Rumsfeld, the US defence secretary, said that although no
western intelligence official had physically laid a hand on a North
Korean nuclear warhead: I believe they have a small number of
nuclear weapons.

Mr Rumsfeld's remarks were prompted by North Korea's own
admission that - separately from any plutonium stockpiles - it has
been running a secret programme to produce enriched weapons-
grade uranium.

North Korea's admission, which came during a tense meeting with a
senior US envoy, has angered and dismayed Western allies.
Britain, which only established diplomatic relations with North Korea
two years ago, abruptly postponed the despatch of the first full
British ambassador to Pyongyang, David Slinn, who had been due
to go this weekend.

A Foreign Office spokesman said: In the light of this news, we are
reflecting further on the best time for David Slinn to take up his
appointment.

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I'd like to teach the world we're nice,
And live in harmony, with terrorists and communists--one happy
family.
I'd like to give the world our nukes and start a peaceful song.
To have such might is just not right-- America is always wrong.
I'd like to give the world our nukes and furnish all their plans.
To Red Chinese and Iraqis and crazies in Iran.
I'd like to see the world as one, all havin' lots of fun,
nukes everywhere, but hey who cares?  at least they're not
handguns!
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Re: [CTRL] Unsubscribe

2002-10-18 Thread thew
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Bwahh haha
You cant get OFF this list

Your name has been inscribed on the the great stone of treasonous freethinkers.

Maybe you could get a mason to chip it off

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ROFLMAO!
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Re: [CTRL] Sharon Doctrine for Iraq?

2002-10-18 Thread Euphorian
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10/18/02 8:58:33 AM, thew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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I'm no lover of Sharon - but he is really a red herring in this article.

Yeah ... that's what became an interesting surpriae about the article ... how the 
conclusion
was not really supported by the rest of the text.  I originally found it interesting 
because of
the Iraq - Japan disconnect.

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Re: [CTRL] Falwell's follies

2002-10-18 Thread Euphorian
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10/18/02 8:55:09 AM, thew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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Christianity wasn't used as a tool in European imperialism?

Or American?

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Re: [CTRL] Falwell's follies

2002-10-18 Thread thew
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That too...


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 Christianity wasn't used as a tool in European imperialism?

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[CTRL] Judge Orders Release

2002-10-18 Thread Euphorian
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From http://www.thedailyenron.com/documents/20021018090236-48993.asp

Judge Orders Release of Documents
Hidden at Presidential Sites

Mind Your Business, Part 10
They continue to hide relevant documents. They snub their noses at legal mandates to
comply. They repeatedly obstruct attempts to verify their claims. Who? Iraq? No - the 
Bush
administration. Yesterday US District Judge Emmet G. Sullivan ran out of patience.

Judge Sullivan once again ordered the Bush White House to turn over documents that
chronicle Vice President Dick Cheney's energy task force meetings last year. The
administration has been sued several times over the documents - including one case
brought by its own General Accounting Office. Federal judges in those other cases have
ordered the Energy Department to turn over thousands of pages of many key documents
relating to Cheney's meetings with energy firms - including Enron - that were spirited 
off to
the White House for safekeeping.

Yesterday's hearing was especially contentious and was marked by several sharp
exchanges between Sullivan and Shannen W. Coffin, the Justice Department attorney
handling the case for the White House.

Coffin has refused to produce the documents being sought by plaintiffs, the Sierra 
Club and
Judicial Watch, stating that having to do so would impose upon the executive
unconstitutional burdens. But, Coffin did not specify precisely what would be
unconstitutional, and he specifically did not declare the documents were privileged.

A clearly infuriated Judge Sullivan told Coffin he could not have it both ways. You 
have to
produce the non-privileged documents and assert the [executive] privilege for those 
that
are, he told Coffin. You refuse to assert the privilege and won't respond to court 
orders.

Coffin countered by contending that the document request would place an undue
interference on executive branch operations, and that the consideration of undue
interference requires special treatment by this court in this context.

Sullivan wasn't buying it. He set a November 5 deadline for the White House to either 
cough
up the documents or return to the court with a formal declaration of executive 
privilege.

That's when things got really interesting.

As the judge was preparing to adjourn the hearing, Coffin asked for an extension. The
reason, he said, was that they could not determine what documents might or might not be
privileged since they had not inspected them yet. Judge Sullivan hit the roof.

That is a startling revelation! the judge said twice. How can you be asserting this 
is
privileged information if you haven't looked at it?

We haven't completed the review, Coffin said. We've done enough to know our
arguments are correct, he said.

How could you misspeak on something as significant as that? Sullivan shouted back.

Now Judge Sullivan knows what it's like to be a weapons inspector in Iraq.






First Energy, Now Food?
When a politician takes a lot of money from a special interest group it can sometimes
impair their reflexes. They move slowly, when they should move fast. That's exactly 
what
happened this week when thousands of consumers were exposed to potentially deadly food
poisoning.

On October 2, federal food inspectors were led to a New Jersey processing plant after 
six
people died and dozens were sickened after eating cold meats packed by the plant. Tests
turned up deadly listeria bacteria in meats processed at the plant - and food shipped
nationwide.

Pilgrim's Pride announced a voluntary recall of 27 million pounds of turkey and chicken
products after tests found listeria in drains at their plant.

But wait, where was the USDA? Moving slow. Real slow. You see, Pilgrim's Pride, as 
part of
the poultry and food processing industry, have been large GOP contributors (82% of
donations to the GOP, 18% to Dems) They like the regulation-lite policies of 
Republicans.
Candidate George W. Bush was provided with rides on Pilgrim's corporate jets at least 
five
times during his campaign for president.

Apparently not wanting to upset their friends in the meat processing business, the Bush
administration didn't make a big deal out of this little listeria outbreak. Since 
Pilgrim's Pride
had agreed to a voluntary recall, why make a federal case out it? Right?

Well, how about school kids? Might that be a good reason to make a big deal out of it?
Apparently not good enough for the Bush administration. It seems in trying hard to be
discreet about all this unpleasantness, the USDA failed to warn schools that it had
purchased and shipped to them nearly 2 million pounds of the ready-to-eat lunchmeats in
question under the federal lunch program.

That was not done until Sunday, October 13, eleven days after the outbreak was 
confirmed.

Isn't it amazing that they didn't look for that (in schools) before now? said Donna
Rosenbaum, spokeswoman for the advocacy group, Safe Tables Our Priority (S.T.O.P.). I
find it unconscionable that they 

[CTRL] Sniper Team

2002-10-18 Thread Euphorian
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From http://www.rense.com/general30/sdnip.htm

Rense.com



DC Killings Done By A
Government Sniper Team
CounterPunch List



From Ken McCarthy at Brasscheck



October 14, 2002

The probable make up of the Washington sniper team.



First of all, we are most likely looking at a TEAM of people.

I've glanced at the moronic news coverage which seems designed solely to baffle and
terrorize the public.

Some of the things that were obvious immediately to anyone with a lick of sense and
knowledge, but have somehow not been mentioned in the press:

1. Snipers work in teams (that's finally dawning on them) 2. Leaving death cards is an 
old
Vietnam trick (intended to add to the terror of the situation) 3. In spite of their 
seemingly
unsophisticated weapons, these guys are military-level practitioners

This is NOT simply a lone marksman and is quite possibly is more than just two people.

Why?

Being a sniper requires: 1) getting into position undetected, 2) maintaining cover 
while
waiting for the shot, 3) taking the shot, and 4) getting away undetected.

You don't learn that at a rifle range and even law enforcement trained snipers (of 
which
there are many) don't learn and practice the last, vital, trick and are not well 
trained in
skills #1 and #2.

A standard sniper team includes a shooter and a spotter. The latter helps the shooter 
find
the target and assists in the getaway. He's a second mind and pair of eyes in a very
stressful and challenging situation.

Why do I think this is a team of more than two?

Common sense. One person to find the shot. One person to take it - and at least one
person to be sitting behind the wheel ready to drive away at a second's notice. 
Neither the
spotter nor the shooter are in a mental state to be able to do that last thing as 
effectively as
these guys are doing. Can you imagine them running to the car, fumbling with keys 
(can't
leave them in the ignition, can you?) etc?

There may be another team member - or three - to monitor police radio, plan and 
navigate
escape routes (which probably change depending on conditions), and provide lookouts and
diversions.

If the team is as big as I think it might be, it will have to have a leader, someone 
to be in
charge of overall management and security for the group. They will also need some
mundane things: food, places to stay - and they need to be controlled.

Speaking of providing diversions... the white panel truck. This team could also include
additional vehicles, including a white panel truck, which would be noisily and 
conspicuously
present at every shooting as a red herring.

So who is doing this?

A government. You need a lot of resources and a good sized pool of highly trained and 
well
disciplined people to pull this off.

What government? Either our own or someone else's. There sure is a lot of motivation
floating around right now, particularly after the Bush administration's announced 'one
bullet' diplomacy initiative in Iraq.

Domestic motivations:

1. Casts further negative light on private ownership of guns, essential for moving the 
coup
to the next level

2. Maintains the atmosphere of tension and terror Bush  Co. need to continue the 
ongoing
coup at a relatively low cost

3. Blocks the headline space so that there is room for no news of substance to be 
reported

4. Conducts an experiment in social control

The fact that this operation is taking place in the United States and so near to the 
largest
concentration of supposedly sophisticated law enforcement and intelligence 
practitioners in
the country - and that this team has not been even close to getting caught - leads me 
to
favor the hypothesis that this is a domestic operation, or a foreign operation that is 
being
permitted to take place to serve the interests of the ongoing coup.

I sure wish this wasn't the case. It would be more comforting to think this is another 
lone
'gun nut,' but it doesn't add up. Even if such a person is 'apprehended,' I will have 
to doubt
the veracity of the report.

Logistics, it all boils down to logistics, and this looks like big league stuff.




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From Charles Tait
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Dear Jeff,

My thanks to Ken Mccarthy at CounterPunch/Brasscheck, and to you for posting his 
analysis.

I'd like to add my two cents. I understand that indeed there is a 'coup' going on, and 
the
preparations started sometime ago. The object is to turn the United States into a 
Banana
Republic. It's happening on two levels - economically, and now politically. At this 
critical
point in time, it only makes a kind of twisted sense to realize that our next national 
election
may well be transformed by the kind of violence which is common in Banana Republics at
election time.

The most flagrant example of this kind of 'campaign' was seen recently when Mugabe was
re-elected as President of Zimbabwe. In fact, he's been using these same methods since
1980, while the rest of the world looks the other way. But 

[CTRL] A washingtonpost.com article from: alamaine@uffdaonline.net

2002-10-18 Thread Alamaine Ratliff
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 Wis. Senate Leader Faces Charges

 By Jenny PriceMADISON, Wis. #150;#150;  The state Assembly's two most power 
Republican leaders were charged with felony misconduct in office Friday, one day after 
the Senate majority leader was charged with 20 felony counts.PProsecutors 
investigating illegal campaigning in the state capitol also filed charges against 
another Republican Assembly member and a former employee Friday.PThe three felony 
counts against Assembly Speaker Scott Jensen stem from his supervision of the Assembly 
Republican Caucus, hiring of the former employee, Sherry Schultz, to work as a 
full-time fund-raiser on state time, and using his legislative staff to work on his 
political campaigns.PHe also is charged with a misdemeanor of using his public 
position to obtain financial gain for the Republican Assembly Campaign Committee, the 
same charge Assistant Majority Leader Bonnie Ladwig faces.PSingle charges against 
Assembly Majority Leader Steve Foti and Schultz stem from her employment as 
well.PJensen issued a statement Friday morning denying the charges.PI intend to 
prove my innocence and fight for our honor, he said.PFriday's charges bring the 
total of lawmakers charged in the investigation to five.PSenate Majority Leader 
Chuck Chvala, a Democrat, was charged with 20 felony counts Thursday, and fellow 
Democratic Sen. Brian Burke was charged with 18 felonies over the summer.PChvala, 
accused of demanding campaign contributions for himself and other Democrats and 
threatening to block legislation if lobbyists failed to deliver, said Thursday he 
would resign his position once Democrats select a majority leader.PHe denounced the 
charges as an attempt to influence the Nov. 5 elections by politically motivated 
special interest lobbyists and a district attorney bent on political revenge 
PI will fight these allegations because they are not true, Chvala said.PHe 
could face up to 90 years in prison and $200,000 in fines if convicted on the charges, 
which include extortion, misconduct in public office, making unlawfu
with the Elections Board.PThe investigations by Milwaukee County District Attorney 
E. Michael McCann and Dane County District Attorney Brian Blanchard began last year 
after the Wisconsin State Journal reported that legislative caucus employees were 
coordinating campaign activities from their state offices using state resources, in 
violation of the law.PThe caucuses #150; one for each party in each chamber #150; 
were created in the 1960s to do research for lawmakers. The partisan bodies were 
eliminated last year in a deal legislative leaders reached that was meant to end a 
state investigation into the allegations.PChvala, 47, was elected to the Senate in 
1984 and has been Democratic leader since 1995. He ran for governor in 1994, losing to 
then-Gov. Tommy Thompson, who is now secretary of the U.S. Department of Health and 
Human Services.PBurke was charged over the summer with using his Capitol office to 
collect campaign contributions in his now-defunct bid for attorney general.

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[CTRL] National Debt Increases Chart

2002-10-18 Thread Euphorian
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http://www.lafn.org/politics/gvdc/Natl_Debt_Chart.html

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Re: [CTRL] NYTimes.com Article: Increase in Autism Baffles Scientists

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[CTRL] Ruppert: The Unseen Conflict

2002-10-18 Thread William Shannon
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http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/101802_the_unseen.html



The Unseen Conflict

War Plans, Backroom Deals, Leverage and Strategy -- Securing What's Left of the Planet's Oil Is and Has Always Been the Bottom Line

by Michael C. Ruppert

© COPYRIGHT 2002, Michael C. Ruppert and FTW Publications, www.copvcia.com all rights reserved. May be reprinted or distributed for non-profit purposes only.]

Oct. 18, 2002, 17:00 PDT (FTW) -- What started out as a blitzkrieg, the Bush agenda for the invasion of Iraq is now producing a world picture that can only be described with one word -- confusing. It is becoming apparent that outraged world opinion, guided by shrewd public relations efforts of foreign governments (including Iraq), has thrown a curve ball to the Bush military plan for a pre-election invasion and occupation . 

But one curve ball is not a strikeout. The continuing military build up, more frequent air strikes, and the risky covert deployment of combat troops in supposedly neutral regions shows the degree of Washington's commitment to war. These troops are going to be used. 

Russia, France and China are only stalling for time, hoping to cut the best backroom deals possible. They're perhaps also hoping that the American Empire will make a fatal mistake or a delay will break Bush's political, popular, and economic support.

Wall Street's 500-plus point rally on the two days of shameless congressional votes authorizing the use of force last week clearly signaled what world leaders have known for some time, and what the American public is seriously beginning to grasp -- the whole thing is about Iraqi oil.

The Associated Press ran a story yesterday indicating that the U.S. had been overwhelmed by global opposition to the invasion of a country second only to Saudi Arabia for its known oil reserves. Iraq is capable of quick production increases even if Saddam tries to destroy his oil fields, as former CIA director James Woolsey recently acknowledged. The story's lead sentence read, "Facing strong opposition from dozens of nations, the United States has backed down from its demand that a new U.N. resolution must authorize military force if Baghdad fails to cooperate with weapons inspectors, diplomats told The Associated Press on Thursday."

However, a Reuters story released hours later clearly indicated that the U.S. was playing hardball behind the scenes. "Iraq's main opposition group says a post-Saddam government would review existing oilfield development deals with French and Russian companies and could favour U.S. firms instead. 

"Sharif Ali Bin Al Hussein, spokesman for the main Iraqi opposition group the Iraqi National Congress (INC), told Reuters in an interview that his group would open the oil sector to all companies, including the U.S. majors. 

"'We would have to review all contracts which have been signed by this regime to make sure it is in the interest of the Iraqi people and not just for Saddam Hussein,' Hussein said."

Nobody is asking who controls the INC. It's a given.

The stakes are incredibly high for Russia. Major press organizations are now acknowledging what FTW has been saying for months. The Bush objective is to drive the price of oil down and simultaneously drive a stake through OPEC, forestalling a further and perhaps catastrophic crash in the U.S. economy. News analyses from Pravda to Fox News have foreseen that a successful U.S. invasion will result in crude oil prices of between $12 and $16 per barrel. Oil currently consts $30 per barrel. 

That would destroy Russia's economic recovery as it sells hand over fist its own diminishing reserves -- oil that is more expensive to produce and of a lesser quality than Mideast crude, while prices are at $30. Iraq owes Russia $7 billion in debt from the Soviet era. 

And on Aug. 19, Russia and Iraq signed a $40 billion infrastructure development deal, which, as reported in the Tehran Times, saw a team of Russian engineers on their way to what may soon be targets of U.S. bombing raids.

Both Russia and France have development interests in major Iraqi oil fields. The Reuters story reported, "Although [France's] TotalFinaElf has no contract, it has been earmarked by Saddam's government to develop the Majnoon and Bin Umar fields with reserves totaling 26 billion barrels. [Russia's] Lukoil has signed a contract for the 15 billion-barrel West Qurna field."

The back room deals and implied threats are getting hot and heavy. On Sept. 5, the Asia Times reported that Russia was considering an expensive trans-Siberian pipeline to service China. This would compete with post-9-11 pipeline deals that have been negotiated to send Caspian and Central Asian oil through Afghanistan for the Chinese market under U.S. control. 

As FTW noted last month, the World Bank has opened offices in Kabul to facilitate the financing of the U.S.-backed projects. Russia's move may not be much of a threat because Russian oil is inferior to Caspian 

[CTRL] NYTimes.com Article: Increase in Autism Baffles Scientists

2002-10-18 Thread Tenor Love
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Increase in Autism Baffles Scientists

October 18, 2002
By SANDRA BLAKESLEE






Trying to account for a drastic rise in childhood autism in
recent years, a California study has found that it cannot
be explained away by statistical anomalies or by a growing
public awareness that might have led more parents to report
the disorder.

But the study's authors, who reported their findings
yesterday to the California Legislature, said they were at
a loss to explain the reasons for what they called an
epidemic of autism, the mysterious brain disorder that
affects a person's ability to form relationships and to
behave normally in everyday life.

Autism is on the rise in the state, and we still do not
know why, said the lead author, Dr. Robert S. Byrd, an
epidemiologist and pediatrician at the University of
California at Davis. The results are, without a doubt,
sobering.

As diagnoses of autism have increased throughout the
nation, experts and parents have cast about for possible
explanations, including genetics, birth injuries and
childhood immunizations. The California study found that
none of these factors could explain an increase of the
magnitude reported there - more than triple from 1987 to
1998.

Dr. Catherine Lord, a professor of psychology and
psychiatry at the University of Michigan who is a leading
authority on autism, said it was unclear whether the
California findings applied to other states.

The federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is
working in 13 states to look at the apparent increase in
autism cases, said Dr. Frank DeStefano, an epidemiologist
at the agency. So far, there is no reliable count of autism
cases nationwide, since criteria and reporting practices
vary from state to state.

The California study was prompted by a 1999 report from the
state's Department of Developmental Services, which
reported that the number of children with full spectrum,
or profound, autism had increased by 273 percent, to 10,360
in 1998 from 2,778 in 1987. The study did not deal with
milder forms of the disorder, like Asperger syndrome.

The numbers were surprising, Dr. Byrd said. The traditional
estimate was that 4 or 5 children out of 10,000 might
develop autism. Instead, it appeared that 10 children in
every 10,000 were seriously autistic, meaning they suffered
from a brain disorder that left them unable to speak or
compulsively performing repetitive motions like flapping
their arms or rocking.

After the period studied, the number of autistic children
continued to rise, to 18,460 cases as of July 2002,
according to the California Department of Developmental
Services.

In response to the study, the legislature directed the MIND
Institute, an autism research center at the University of
California at Davis, to investigate.

We wondered if the increase was real, Dr. Byrd said.
Maybe we were doing a better job of finding cases. Maybe
there was an increase in awareness of autism. The movie
`Rain Man' was very popular.

California has a system of 21 regional centers that
diagnose developmental disorders and provide services to
children with them. Dr. Byrd and his team mined these
centers for data.

Researchers sent questionnaires to the parents of 684
children with full-spectrum autism or mental retardation.
About half were teenagers, born from 1983 to 1985; the
others were ages 7 to 9, born a decade later.

If the criteria for diagnosing autism had changed in those
10 years or if the definition had broadened, the mystery
would be solved, Dr. Byrd said. But the standards used to
diagnose full-spectrum autism were the same in both age
groups, he said.

Some people suggested that the centers might diagnose
autism so families would receive more generous state
assistance. But the centers have no incentive to do so, Dr.
Byrd said, since they do not receive more state financing
for identifying more children with disabilities.

The study also considered whether children in the older
group were incorrectly classified as mentally retarded,
when they were in fact autistic. But the rate of
misdiagnosis was about the same in both groups, Dr. Byrd
said.

Still another possibility - that large numbers of families
with autistic children had moved into California - was
discarded when it turned out that most children in both
groups were born in California. A general increase in
population accounted for about 10 percent of the rise in
autism, Dr. Byrd said. The rest remains a mystery.

There also were no significant differences over time in
sex, race or parental education. Parents of the older
children were more likely to report mental retardation
along with autism, but the finding did not explain the
rising incidence.

About a third of parents in both groups reported that their
children began to regress around the age of 18 months, Dr.
Byrd said. They suddenly lost the ability to say words and
stopped making eye contact. Many 

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October 18, 2002
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS






PHILADELPHIA, Oct. 17 (AP) - Ira Einhorn, a former
counterculture leader who preached peace and love while
battering his lovers, was convicted today of first-degree
murder for killing a former girlfriend in 1977 and stuffing
her body into his closet.

Mr. Einhorn, who fled the country and spent nearly 17 years
in Europe after being arrested in the death of Holly
Maddux, was sentenced to life in prison without parole.

After the verdict, Judge William J. Mazzola called Mr.
Einhorn, 62, an intellectual dilettante who preyed on the
uninitiated, uninformed, unsuspecting and inexperienced.

Mr. Einhorn's lawyer, William T. Cannon, said he planned an
appeal.

In the 1970's, Mr. Einhorn counted Jerry Rubin and the rock
star Peter Gabriel among his acquaintances and later
consulted with large companies on New Age trends. He
vanished on the eve of his 1981 trial and lived in England,
Ireland and Sweden before the authorities caught him in
1997 at a converted windmill in the south of France, where
he lived with his Swedish-born wife.

After his capture, Mr. Einhorn thumbed his nose at American
authorities by appearing on television shows to discuss his
plight and sipping wine while posing naked for
photographers in his garden.

For the first time in his spoiled, selfish, egotistical
life, he pays the price, the victim's brother, John
Maddux, said.

Mr. Einhorn insisted he was innocent, saying he last saw
Ms. Maddux, 30, as she left to make a phone call. He said
he had no idea how her body had turned up in a steamer
trunk inside his closet.

Prosecutors described Mr. Einhorn as a loutish womanizer
and serial abuser who turned violent whenever a woman
wanted to leave him. When he testified, they had him read
poems and diary entries in which he wrote: to kill what
you love when you can't have it seems so natural and
violence always marks the end of a relationship.

Mr. Einhorn, who had described himself as a planetary
enzyme and a catalyst for change, told jurors he had a
Virgo moon.

Lynne Abraham, the Philadelphia district attorney, whose
office pursued Mr. Einhorn for years, said, Metaphorically
speaking, Ira Einhorn and his Virgo moon are toast.

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Sniper Case Renews Debate Over Firearm Fingerprinting

October 18, 2002
By FOX BUTTERFIELD






WASHINGTON, Oct. 17 - The sniper shootings in the suburbs
of Washington have produced an intense debate over whether
the government should create a nationwide database of
ballistic fingerprints, electronic images of the unique
markings that every gun makes on the bullet it fires and
the shell ejected from it.

While the debate, like many gun issues, is clouded by
ideology, much of the argument is over how well such a
system would work.

Firearms experts say a national database of ballistic
fingerprints would be practical, accurate and a major help
to law enforcement.

What a fabulous opportunity it would be to have a system
that gave you the make, model and possibly the purchaser of
a gun, just from a shell casing ejected at the crime
scene, said Randy Rossi, the director of the firearms
division of the California Department of Justice. It would
be just like a criminal leaving his license plate at the
crime scene.

You can't question the technology, Mr. Rossi said. It is
already being used to solve hundreds or thousands of
cases.

But questioning the technology was exactly what President
Bush's press secretary, Ari Fleischer, did on Monday when
he repeated the doubts that the National Rifle Association
has long expressed about such a system.

The more a gun is used, Mr. Fleischer said, the less
accurate the tracing can become.

In addition, he said, A simple nail file put down the
barrel of a gun can alter the amount of tracing that's on a
bullet, and therefore change the accuracy of
fingerprinting, very unlike any fingerprinting of human
beings.

What is needed is not new gun laws, Mr. Fleischer said.
Certainly, in the case of the sniper, the issue is
values.

Despite the skepticism, Mr. Fleischer said later that Mr.
Bush favored studying such a system, as the N.R.A. has also
proposed.

Part of the technology is already in place, known as the
National Integrated Ballistic Identification Network. It
has allowed the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms to
say with certainty that the 11 people shot by the
Washington-area sniper were shot with the same gun, using
.223-caliber ammunition.

In some cities, including New York, law enforcement
officials have already made more than 700 matches of
bullets or shell casings recovered in crimes to guns since
the system was put into place in 1996, said Joe Vince, the
former head of the crime gun analysis branch at the agency.
Mr. Vince helped develop the system.

In Houston, the police recently solved the killing of a
security guard and the separate killings of two store
clerks in an armed robbery by matching the shell casings in
the three killings to a .40-caliber gun. The weapon was
eventually found in the apartment of a suspect.

With the ballistics evidence, the suspect was convicted and
sentenced to death.

But the National Rifle Association has many arguments
against such a system. In a statement released today, Wayne
LaPierre, the executive vice president of the group, said
gun fingerprinting would not work if a criminal deformed
the barrel of a gun or its firing pin. Nor would it work if
a gun was stolen, Mr. LaPierre said, because gun tracing by
the firearms bureau can track a gun only to the buyer. The
rifle association says that most guns used by criminals are
stolen.

The proposed system would also fail unless the 200 million
guns already owned by Americans were test fired and had
their bullets and shell casings entered into the database,
Mr. LaPierre said. If that happened, the system would be
tantamount to national gun registration, which the rifle
association considers a first step toward government
confiscation of firearms, he said.

Mr. Vince said of Mr. Fleischer's doubts: All I can say
is, the White House must have been misinformed. Every study
ever done on this has shown that it is an extremely
effective system.

The technology, developed by a Canadian company, Forensic
Technology Inc., is used in 27 countries, including
Germany, Sweden, Spain, Italy, Israel, Thailand and
Australia, said Pete Gagliardi, a vice president of the
company and a former high-ranking firearms bureau agent.

All these countries use the technology as the United States
does, just to match bullets or shell casings to a crime
gun. None have created a national database.

As for Mr. Fleischer's claim that the rifling marks on a
bullet degrade when a gun is fired often, Mr. Vince said,
We test-fired a gun 5,000 times, and the technology was
able to match the first round with the last round.

He added: But no one shoots a gun that many times anyway.
A criminal might fire 10 or 20 times with the same gun.

If a criminal put a nail file down the barrel of a gun, as
Mr. Fleischer suggested, the technology would pick this
up, Mr. Vince said. Moreover, he said, the firearms bureau
has found that