Re: [CTRL] UFO should not necessarily imply ET ?

2000-06-04 Thread tenebroust
Most definitely Samantha, the rules apply to me as well. Since interpretation is the factor, my interpretation of Alfred's remarks was such that he implied that I did not know all the stuff he knew and thus my arguments carried no weight. His implication, in my interpretation of them, was

Re: [CTRL] UFO should not necessarily imply ET ?

2000-06-04 Thread tenebroust
Why take anyone's word for what someone else believes when you can read their works for yourself. In my reading of Vallee he has stated that informants in the French military admit to engineering at least one abduction for the purposes of studying psychological phenomena and religious

Re: [CTRL] UFO should not necessarily imply ET ?

2000-06-03 Thread tenebroust
Well, it certainly is good to have Alfred here. Since he has read and knows about every aspect of UFOlogy, I strongly encourage all people who doubt the ET hypothesis of UFO origins to just hang up your hats and drop it in the face of his insurmountable knowledge on the matter. I know that I

Re: [CTRL] UFO should not necessarily imply ET ?

2000-06-03 Thread Samantha L.
It is perfectly appropriate for someone to bring their qualifications and experience to the table during a discussion. June and Mr. Webre interpret Vallee differently. That Mr. Webre knew him and worked with him adds weight to his interpretation. "Let us please be civil and as always,

Re: [CTRL] UFO should not necessarily imply ET ?

2000-06-03 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "tenebroust" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, it certainly is good to have Alfred here. Since he has read and knows about every aspect of UFOlogy, I strongly encourage all people who doubt the ET hypothesis of UFO origins to just hang up your hats and drop it in the face of his insurmountable

Re: [CTRL] UFO should not necessarily imply ET ?

2000-06-03 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Samantha L." [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is perfectly appropriate for someone to bring their qualifications and experience to the table during a discussion. June and Mr. Webre interpret Vallee differently. That Mr. Webre knew him and worked with him adds weight to his interpretation. Mr.

Re: [CTRL] UFO should not necessarily imply ET ?

2000-06-03 Thread DIG alfred webre
In a message dated 00-06-03 22:13:57 EDT, you write: Mr. Webre CLAIMS to have known and 'worked' with Jacques Vallee. I don't hear Monsieur Vallee weighing in here with his agreement. I'd like Mr. Webre to tell us which of Monsieur Vallee' books we should look in to find Monsieur Vallee

Re: [CTRL] UFO should not necessarily imply ET ?

2000-06-02 Thread DIG alfred webre
In a message dated 00-06-01 23:35:03 EDT, you write: I agree with Vallee's conclusions in "Messengers of Deception". Dear June - Oh I guess I better go a read again the book that I AM IN. You are so stuck in yourself, June, you don;t even notice that Jacques Vallee was writing about people

Re: [CTRL] UFO should not necessarily imply ET ?

2000-06-01 Thread DIG alfred webre
Oh June - you know about Vallee. Well, what does the eminent Jacques Vallee have to say about UFOs? What do you think Jacque thinks about UFOs. Please enlighten us. Jacques says in interview UFOs might be the manifestation of Universe mega-intelligence (Gods). That's extraterrestrial, June.

Re: [CTRL] UFO should not necessarily imply ET ?

2000-06-01 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "DIG alfred webre" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh June - you know about Vallee. Well, what does the eminent Jacques Vallee have to say about UFOs? What do you think Jacque thinks about UFOs. Please enlighten us. Jacques says in interview UFOs might be the manifestation of Universe mega-intelligence

Re: [CTRL] UFO should not necessarily imply ET ?

2000-05-31 Thread tenebroust
On Tue, 30 May 2000, Nurev Ind Research wrote: DIG alfred webre wrote: In a message dated 00-05-28 14:15:44 EDT, you write: No denial going on here. Just a request for the 'evidence' that is claimed to exist, and which I notice YOU fail to provide, resorting instead to personal

Re: [CTRL] UFO should not necessarily imply ET ?

2000-05-30 Thread Nurev Ind Research
DIG alfred webre wrote: In a message dated 00-05-28 14:15:44 EDT, you write: No denial going on here. Just a request for the 'evidence' that is claimed to exist, and which I notice YOU fail to provide, resorting instead to personal attack. June June, please read the evidence

Re: [CTRL] UFO should not necessarily imply ET ?

2000-05-29 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: The hard evidence in these French reports now is formally stated to most strongly support an extraterrestrial hypothesis. What hard evidence? ETs are here and have been proven so, How? What's the proof? A French military report!?! That's a report,

Re: [CTRL] UFO should not necessarily imply ET ?

2000-05-29 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "DIG alfred webre" [EMAIL PROTECTED] June, please read the evidence summarized in May 27, 2000 article: http://www.alienzoo.com/news/u/25280005.cfm The hard evidence in these French reports now is formally stated to most strongly support an extraterrestrial hypothesis. ETs are

Re: [CTRL] UFO should not necessarily imply ET ?

2000-05-28 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Andrew Hennessey" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Um... I think some of them are flown by extra-dimensional or extra-terrestrial life, yes. There is evidence for it. What 'evidence'? The best evidence I have ever seen for the existence of non-human life is the agenda of denial currently

Re: [CTRL] UFO should not necessarily imply ET ?

2000-05-28 Thread DIG alfred webre
In a message dated 00-05-28 14:15:44 EDT, you write: No denial going on here. Just a request for the 'evidence' that is claimed to exist, and which I notice YOU fail to provide, resorting instead to personal attack. June June, please read the evidence summarized in May 27, 2000 article:

Re: [CTRL] UFO should not necessarily imply ET ?

2000-05-27 Thread Samantha L.
In a message dated 5/26/00 6:07:09 PM Central Daylight Time Samantha, there have been "sightings" of all kinds throughout history, it is you, and others of similar mindset (those who are inclined to believe in alien visitation, not that there is anything wrong with that) who classify

Re: [CTRL] UFO should not necessarily imply ET ?

2000-05-27 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Samantha L." [EMAIL PROTECTED] Um... I think some of them are flown by extra-dimensional or extra-terrestrial life, yes. There is evidence for it. What 'evidence'? June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion

Re: [CTRL] UFO should not necessarily imply ET ?

2000-05-27 Thread Andrew Hennessey
At 06:32 AM 27, 05, , 2000 -0400, you wrote: From: "Samantha L." [EMAIL PROTECTED] Um... I think some of them are flown by extra-dimensional or extra-terrestrial life, yes. There is evidence for it. What 'evidence'? June The best evidence I have ever seen for the existence of non-human

[CTRL] UFO should not necessarily imply ET ?

2000-05-26 Thread Tony Dickinson
How's about some new nomenclature to help dissambiguate one's position re any given Unidentified Flying Object (UFO). I would like to propose the following for example: UFOpo (UFO probably ours) A terrestrial craft of type unknown to observer UFOpa (UFO putative alien) An aerial phenomenon

Re: [CTRL] UFO should not necessarily imply ET ?

2000-05-26 Thread Nurev Ind Research
Tony Dickinson wrote: How's about some new nomenclature to help dissambiguate one's position re any given Unidentified Flying Object (UFO). I would like to propose the following for example: UFOpo (UFO probably ours) A terrestrial craft of type unknown to observer UFOpa (UFO putative