Re: Minor sysupgrade issue

2024-06-01 Thread David Brownlee
On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 at 00:06, Brad Spencer wrote: > > Chavdar Ivanov writes: > > [snip] > > > But then wouldn't be > > there a chance that the old userland disagrees with the new kernel? > > > > > As a general statement, that should not be a problem as

Re: amdgpu laptops with 10 & current?

2024-05-14 Thread David Brownlee
On Tue, 14 May 2024 at 08:14, nia wrote: > > The ThinkPad A485 looks pretty interesting for use with NetBSD. > > - 1st Gen AMD Ryzen Mobile > - 32 GiB DDR4 2400 MHz > - AMD Radeon Vega 6, 8 or 10 > > Usually I prefer the smaller X series, but they've made them > non-upgradable and harder to

Re: Disk sizes

2023-12-28 Thread David Brownlee
On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 at 18:47, xuser wrote: > > Does NetBSD support 3TB ATA drive? Some very old (decade plus) controllers are not able to support drives of that size, but any hardware that supports a 3TB ATA drive, NetBSD should also support it. If you're using somewhat older 3TB drives be aware

Re: Upgrading a 90s laptop from 5.1 to 10 -- no FD or CDROM

2023-12-22 Thread David Brownlee
As another test you could "boot -a" the netbsd10 kernel and then point it to a netbsd-10 installed USB or PCMCIA drive as a root filesystem. While you probably already have everything after the boot pretty much covered, it's always nice to see it come up and run completely from a netbsd-10

Re: urndis and tethering on a Google Pixel 6 phone (or not)

2023-10-03 Thread David Brownlee
On Tue, 3 Oct 2023 at 00:45, Ryo ONODERA wrote: > > I have Google Pixel 7a and it does not offer > urndis(4) device anymore. It provides USB NCM > device for USB tethering. > It seems that FreeBSD's cdce(4) device driver > has NCM support. However I have not tested it yet. > > I suspect that

urndis and tethering on a Google Pixel 6 phone (or not)

2023-10-02 Thread David Brownlee
Has anyone been able to tether using urndis on a Google Pixel 6? It's not picked up automatically, and just as a test I added it(*) to urndis_devs in sys/dev/usb/if_urndis.c, but it doesn't complete autoconfig - I suspect it might need to be poked in some special way to actually be an urndis, or

Re: modesetting vs intel in 10.0

2023-08-27 Thread David Brownlee
On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 at 18:48, Brian Stuart wrote: > > Am I correct that even with all the improvements, there are still > Intel video systems that aren't supported? On a Dell Latitude 7420, > dmesg shows: > > [ 1.051227] pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0: Intel Tiger Lake (UP3 > 4Core) Host

Re: modesetting vs intel in 10.0

2023-08-27 Thread David Brownlee
On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 at 22:00, nia wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 08:55:13PM +0100, David Brownlee wrote: > > Picking up on this, particularly with netbsd-10 looming, I think we > > should at least whitelist some known good-with-modesetting Intel GPUs, > > with

Re: modesetting vs intel in 10.0

2023-08-25 Thread David Brownlee
On Fri, 7 Jul 2023 at 21:39, nia wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 08:18:18PM +0100, David Brownlee wrote: > > On Fri, 7 Jul 2023 at 19:43, nia wrote: > > > > > > After some testing on a Skylake machine, I've concluded > > > that xf86-video-modesett

Re: possible NFS trouble

2023-08-24 Thread David Brownlee
On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 at 15:27, Greg Troxel wrote: > > I did not try this build with the new computer under 9. > > It occurred to me that I need to find a parallel filesystem exerciser > and try that, as simpler than the thunderbird build process. Might also be worth a single pass at building

Re: fdisk and alignment

2023-07-25 Thread David Brownlee
On Mon, 10 Jul 2023 at 10:06, Martin Husemann wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 09, 2023 at 08:54:56PM +0100, David Brownlee wrote: > > In practice I think it would be better not to penalise current use of > > "small" (120GB SSD or 64GB or or CF/USB devices) for an edge case of

Re: fdisk and alignment

2023-07-09 Thread David Brownlee
On Sun, 9 Jul 2023 at 17:41, Izumi Tsutsui wrote: > > > I was using fdisk to setup a USB key on NetBSD-10 and noticed its > > still defaulting to 63 sector offset, including when "1m" is entered: > > fdisk(8) man says: > > -A ptn_alignment[/ptn_0_offset] > [..] > >

fdisk and alignment

2023-07-09 Thread David Brownlee
I was using fdisk to setup a USB key on NetBSD-10 and noticed its still defaulting to 63 sector offset, including when "1m" is entered: I can understand wanting to align to real cylinders on ancient fixed track-per cylinder disks, but it makes no sense on even modern spinning rust, let alone

Re: modesetting vs intel in 10.0

2023-07-09 Thread David Brownlee
On Sun, 9 Jul 2023 at 11:14, Mike Pumford wrote: > > On 08/07/2023 23:06, David Brownlee wrote: > > > Would it be worth trying to collect some data on users running NetBSD > > on intel display hardware, to see if there are any cases where > > intel_drv wor

Re: modesetting vs intel in 10.0

2023-07-08 Thread David Brownlee
On Fri, 7 Jul 2023 at 21:39, nia wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 08:18:18PM +0100, David Brownlee wrote: > > On Fri, 7 Jul 2023 at 19:43, nia wrote: > > > > > > After some testing on a Skylake machine, I've concluded > > > that xf86-video-modesett

Re: modesetting vs intel in 10.0

2023-07-07 Thread David Brownlee
On Fri, 7 Jul 2023 at 19:43, nia wrote: > > After some testing on a Skylake machine, I've concluded > that xf86-video-modesetting is far superior to xf86-video-intel > on that generation of Intel hardware - the most obvious thing > is that modesetting has functional VSync and superior 3D

Re: nvmm users - experience

2023-05-24 Thread David Brownlee
On Sun, 21 May 2023 at 15:01, Mathew, Cherry G.* wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm wondering if there are any nvmm(4) users out there - I'd like to > understand what your user experience is - expecially for multiple VMs > running simultaneously. > > Specifically, I'd like to understand if nvmm based qemu

Re: open-vm-tools

2023-04-21 Thread David Brownlee
On Thu, 20 Apr 2023 at 23:21, Mark Davies wrote: > > On 20/04/23 11:48, Mark Davies wrote: > > Is this a bug in open-vm-tools or 10.0_BETA or something else? > > > > suggestions please. > > And the answer appears to be bug in 10.0_BETA's fuse.h > > following patch fixes. > > ---

Re: Building old systems

2023-04-20 Thread David Brownlee
On Thu, 20 Apr 2023 at 06:10, Lloyd Parkes wrote: > > On 20/04/23 10:34, Brook Milligan wrote: > > I am trying to build an old kernel with build.sh on a recent (9.99.108) > > amd64 system. However, compiling nbmake fails immediately with errors like > > > > /usr/bin/ld: buf.o:(.bss+0x0):

Re: IntelliJ IDEA for java development on NetBSD

2023-03-29 Thread David Brownlee
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 at 18:48, Ron Georgia wrote: > > I am using PyCharm Pro (2021.3.3) with a modified pycharm.sh file. I use > Pycharm for Python development (shock) and Rust. I am running into the > same slowness issue. I see the sluggishness with 9.3, 10_Beta and > Current (NetBSD 10.99.2).

Re: IntelliJ IDEA for java development on NetBSD

2023-03-29 Thread David Brownlee
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 at 17:47, David Brownlee wrote: > > On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 at 14:36, Ron Georgia wrote: > > > > I cannot get the early access edition to work. In fact to get the > > Intellij from pkgin to work I have to change the idea.sh file to use > > jdk11

Re: IntelliJ IDEA for java development on NetBSD

2023-03-26 Thread David Brownlee
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 at 14:36, Ron Georgia wrote: > > I cannot get the early access edition to work. In fact to get the > Intellij from pkgin to work I have to change the idea.sh file to use > jdk11. Any hints on getting the EAP version to work? Hi Ron, What version of NetBSD are you running?

IntelliJ IDEA for java development on NetBSD

2023-03-25 Thread David Brownlee
Just a quick note that if anyone else is using IntelliJ IDEA to develop Java or other related languages on NetBSD, it might a good idea to download the EAP version from - https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/nextversion/ have a play with it, and then complete the feedback form -

Re: Usable Notebook for NetBSD-current wanted

2022-09-09 Thread David Brownlee
On Fri, 9 Sept 2022 at 14:33, Frank Kardel wrote: > > I am still looking for a notebook that can be used with NetBSD-current. > I need to replace a 10+ year old W510 that is dying a slow agonizing > thermal death. I'm running 9.99.99 -current (with packages including openjdk11, postgres &

Re: the entropy bug, and device timeouts (was: Note: two files changed and hashes/signatures updated for NetBSD 8.1)

2022-02-02 Thread David Brownlee
On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 at 23:31, Greg A. Woods wrote: > > At Thu, 27 Jan 2022 10:40:20 +0100, Martin Husemann > wrote: > Subject: Re: the entropy bug, and device timeouts (was: Note: two files > changed and hashes/signatures updated for NetBSD 8.1) > > > > On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 10:56:53PM -0800,

Re: one remaining mystery about the FreeBSD domU failure on NetBSD XEN3_DOM0

2021-04-16 Thread David Brownlee
On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 at 08:41, Greg A. Woods wrote: > What else is different? What am I missing? What could be different in > NetBSD current that could cause a FreeBSD domU to (mis)behave this way? > Could the fault still be in the FreeBSD drivers -- I don't see how as > the same root problem

usb panic 9.99.81 attaching/detaching Garmin watch

2021-03-18 Thread David Brownlee
From NetBSD forsaken.absd.org 9.99.81 NetBSD 9.99.81 (GENERIC) #0: Thu Mar 11 15:27:40 UTC 2021 mkre...@mkrepro.netbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC amd64 Reasonably reproducible (enough that I'm no longer attaching the cable to my work machine :) Tail end of dmesg from unplugging

Re: [HEADS UP] pkgsrc default database directory changed

2020-12-07 Thread David Brownlee
On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 13:18, Thomas Klausner wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 07, 2020 at 06:53:57PM +0700, Robert Elz wrote: > > Date:Mon, 7 Dec 2020 11:38:14 +0100 > > From:Thomas Klausner > > Message-ID: <20201207103814.xbnkdiwpzo6xl...@yt.nih.at> > > > > | > 2) requires

Re: [HEADS UP] pkgsrc default database directory changed

2020-12-05 Thread David Brownlee
On Sat, 5 Dec 2020 at 14:15, Thomas Klausner wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 02, 2020 at 11:28:41AM +0100, Thomas Klausner wrote: > > The new default for the pkgsrc database (which contains information > > about all installed packages) in pkgsrc-HEAD has changed from > > /var/db/pkg to ${PREFIX}/pkgdb (so

Re: [HEADS UP] pkgsrc default database directory changed

2020-12-04 Thread David Brownlee
On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 11:07, Mike Pumford wrote: > On 02/12/2020 23:41, Thomas Klausner wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 02, 2020 at 03:07:55PM -0800, Paul Goyette wrote: > >> This is just getting too complicated. Too many manual steps, and too > >> many changes to too many long-established procedures. >

Re: Best practice for setting up disks for ZFS on NetBSD

2020-12-03 Thread David Brownlee
On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 at 08:31, Tobias Nygren wrote: > > On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 00:30:17 + David Brownlee wrote: > > > > In the event of disk renumbering both are thrown out, needing a "zfs > > export foo;zfs import foo" to recover. Is there some way to avoid that

Best practice for setting up disks for ZFS on NetBSD

2020-12-02 Thread David Brownlee
What would be the best practice for setting up disks to use under ZFS on NetBSD, with particular reference to handling renumbered devices? The two obvious options seem to be: - Wedges, setup as a single large gpt partition of type zfs (eg /dev/dk7) - Entire disk (eg: /dev/wd0 or /dev/sd4) (I'm

Re: [HEADS UP] pkgsrc default database directory changed

2020-12-02 Thread David Brownlee
On Wed, 2 Dec 2020 at 10:28, Thomas Klausner wrote: > > The new default for the pkgsrc database (which contains information > about all installed packages) in pkgsrc-HEAD has changed from > /var/db/pkg to ${PREFIX}/pkgdb (so usually /usr/pkg/pkgdb). > > This matches the default the bootstrap

Re: sponsor NetBSD for 2020 https://github.com/sponsors/NetBSD

2020-11-10 Thread David Brownlee
On Tue, 10 Nov 2020 at 18:25, wrote: > The usual way that TNF funding of projects work is that a developer will > come to TNF with a proposal for the project to fund their work. > Actively seeking out developers when nobody has come forward is a > challenge, because the sums of money are usually

Re: if_percpuq_softint/pool_sysctl panics on ure0

2020-08-28 Thread David Brownlee
On Fri, 28 Aug 2020 at 13:59, David Brownlee wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Aug 2020 at 12:18, Martin Husemann wrote: > > > > On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 12:04:04PM +0100, David Brownlee wrote: > > > ure0: discarding oversize frame (len=1757) > > > ure0: discarding oversiz

Re: if_percpuq_softint/pool_sysctl panics on ure0

2020-08-28 Thread David Brownlee
On Fri, 28 Aug 2020 at 12:18, Martin Husemann wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 12:04:04PM +0100, David Brownlee wrote: > > ure0: discarding oversize frame (len=1757) > > ure0: discarding oversize frame (len=8136) > > Try newer -current, ure had a very recent change in

if_percpuq_softint/pool_sysctl panics on ure0

2020-08-28 Thread David Brownlee
I've started using a USB C hub with built in Ethernet and am seeing panics under network load from its ure on current (9.99.70 from mkrepro) Same system works without issue on built in wm0 ure0: discarding oversize frame (len=1757) ure0: discarding oversize frame (len=8136) panic:

Re: recent changes to pthread_fork.c:fork() cause static linking to fail if the app provides its own malloc()

2020-07-16 Thread David Brownlee
On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 at 15:40, Christos Zoulas wrote: > > In article <7171.1594774...@splode.eterna.com.au>, > matthew green wrote: > >Martin Husemann writes: > >> On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 02:49:00AM +0200, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: > >> > Replacing malloc is just as invalid from a strict

Re: openjdk11 and tomcat

2020-07-09 Thread David Brownlee
On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 at 21:26, Tobias Nygren wrote: > > On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 15:17:52 +0100 > David Brownlee wrote: > > > [... apache-tomcat & wildfly issues...] > > This is amd64 under netbsd-9, and netbsd-9 binaries running under a > > current kernel. > >

Re: postinstall removed yet another "obsolete" system library that was still used....

2020-06-30 Thread David Brownlee
On Sun, 28 Jun 2020 at 21:21, Christos Zoulas wrote: > > In article , > Greg A. Woods wrote: > >-=-=-=-=-=- > > > >So I just upgraded a system from an old 8.99 -current to a newer 9.99 > >current and "postinstall fix obsolete" removed my /usr/lib/libgomp.so.1* > > > >However this library was

openjdk11 and tomcat

2020-06-30 Thread David Brownlee
Can anyone run a listening webserver under openjdk11 (eg: apache-tomcat, wildfly)? Whenever I try it never seems to handle any connections, but everything works under openjdk8. Its easy to test with packages from pkgsrc: Install openjdk8 openjdk11 apache-tomcat9 # env

Re: radeon framebuffer console all dark

2020-05-28 Thread David Brownlee
On Thu, 28 May 2020 at 12:08, Riccardo Mottola wrote: > > Hello David, > > David Brownlee wrote: > >> Any suggestions? It is not a regression bug from 9.0: it is already > >> bugged. I am just testing current kernel and noticed the issue > >> continues. >

Re: radeon framebuffer console all dark

2020-05-26 Thread David Brownlee
On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 23:25, Riccardo Mottola wrote: > > Hi, > > my HP laptop with Turion CPU ad Radeon video is resisting efforts of > getting BSD-ized! Unacceptable! > First issue is that the auixp driver hangs the kernel boot - working > on that with Christos and Martin, but no progress. >

Re: -current panics while iwm(4) is in use

2020-04-01 Thread David Brownlee
On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 at 10:09, Sevan Janiyan wrote: > On 01/04/2020 10:04, nia wrote: > > Not reproducable in 9. > > Is that in something more recent than 202003281940Z? > I upgraded to 202003281940Z and iwm(4) on my x230 was ok (only brief > testing). I've been seeing this for a few days with

Adding xzcat to /rescue?

2020-03-01 Thread David Brownlee
Since some ports are distributing install sets in xz format would it make sense to add xzcat to /rescue (just hit a case where I wanted to reextract sets on a test machine) David

Re: Recent if_stat changes have broken sysutils/xosview

2020-02-09 Thread David Brownlee
Should we have a list of kernel grovelling pkgsrc packages we are interested in keeping working? lsof, xosview... Definitely not a "these must keep working they way they currently do", or even "these must remain able to extract every piece of information they currently do", but more of a "these

random "using zfs on NetBSD" comment

2020-02-04 Thread David Brownlee
I've setup a random 230GB disk as root with all important data on zfs. This is one of two remote replicas (via synthing) so not using mirroring or other in-machine redundancy. Picked zfs so I could rely on its data checksumming and trivial adding of additional disks into a pool. The other replica

Re:

2020-02-04 Thread David Brownlee
On Tue, 4 Feb 2020 at 02:05, MLH wrote: > > So does anyone know how to get rid of the kernel's idea of what > the wedges is? Every time I try, even after zeroing the drive over > a TB into it and rebooting multiple times after deleting the gpt > partitioning, etc. The kernel still says it is busy

Re: panic on zpool create

2020-01-08 Thread David Brownlee
On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 at 02:51, Brian Buhrow wrote: > > hello David. I wonder if you're running into another manifestation > of kern/54724, which shows zfs corrupting kernel memory in NetBSD-9. I > show the problem having to do with xen, but I now believe the problem is > entirely with zfs

Re: panic on zpool create

2020-01-07 Thread David Brownlee
On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 12:48, David Brownlee wrote: > > On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 10:07, J. Hannken-Illjes > wrote: > > > > For some reason locking the directory we want to mount on crashes. > > > > Anything special with the root on this machine? > > > &g

Re: panic on zpool create

2020-01-07 Thread David Brownlee
On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 10:07, J. Hannken-Illjes wrote: > > For some reason locking the directory we want to mount on crashes. > > Anything special with the root on this machine? > > Does the directory (/angus_media I suppose) exist? /angus_media was present after the initial panic, removing it

Re: panic on zpool create

2020-01-06 Thread David Brownlee
Given I was able to create the pool without issue on another machine (running the same OS release), it will come as no surprise that a zpool export on that machine and a zpool import on the original triggers the same panic inside zfs_mount()... :/ David On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 14:04, David

panic on zpool create

2020-01-06 Thread David Brownlee
I've just tried to create a zfs pool and had a panic (tried twice, was gifted a kernel core each time). This is on latest NetBSD-9.0_RC1 from nyftp (Thu Jan 2 10:02:26 UTC 2020) The command were "zpool create angus_media wd0" and "zpool create -f angus_media wd0 wd1" Moved disks to another

Re: Current wisdom on printing from Firefox

2019-12-29 Thread David Brownlee
On Sun, 29 Dec 2019 at 21:04, Chavdar Ivanov wrote: > > On Sun, 29 Dec 2019 at 20:43, David Brownlee wrote: > > > > What is the current wisdom on printing from Firefox? > > > > It appears that from firefox-60 the ability to generale ps was > > removed,

Current wisdom on printing from Firefox

2019-12-29 Thread David Brownlee
What is the current wisdom on printing from Firefox? It appears that from firefox-60 the ability to generale ps was removed, so the lpd backend was also removed. There is a reference and a patch to add back print to lpd (but not generate ps) for FreeBSD at:

8 port HBA recommendations for ZFS on NetBSD

2019-12-05 Thread David Brownlee
After having a play with ZFS on a couple of HP microservers I'm now looking at switching my main Dell T320 across. It has 8 SATA bays with the Dell H710P (effectively a LSI MegaRAID SAS 9266-8i) supported by the mfii driver. Its a nice RAID controller with battery backed cache and all the other

Re: tar extract changed since netbsd-8? (extracting sets over running system)

2019-11-12 Thread David Brownlee
On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 at 11:33, Jaromír Doleček wrote: > > Le mar. 12 nov. 2019 à 12:05, Martin Husemann a écrit : >> >> Not seen this locally, but that would be the switch to bsd/libarchive tar. >> Maybe it does not unlink files before extraction and replaces them in-space? >> >> I do the same

tar extract changed since netbsd-8? (extracting sets over running system)

2019-11-12 Thread David Brownlee
Prior to NetBSD-9 I extracted sets (bar etc) over running systems without any issues Now with NetBSD-9 I frequently get bus errors from running code when base is extracted [1] Bus error /bin/ln -sf "${src}" "${dest}" *** Error code 138 This would be while "tar xzpf

Re: heads-up: planned changes in nvmm

2019-11-01 Thread David Brownlee
On Mon, 28 Oct 2019 at 14:58, Maxime Villard wrote: > > Le 22/10/2019 à 22:34, Maxime Villard a écrit : > > I will soon commit a set of changes in NVMM, which will require a full > > rebuild and reinstallation of: the kernel NVMM driver, the libnvmm API, > > the libnvmm ATF tests, and the

Re: firefox dumping core after NetBSD upgrade

2019-10-12 Thread David Brownlee
On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 at 10:50, Robert Swindells wrote: > m...@netbsd.org wrote: > >Firefox works great. The discussion here isn't about firefox being > >broken on netbsd, it's being broken across an update. That usually > >happens due to some kind of binary incompatibility being introduced. > >

Firefox stability on NetBSD-9 ( \o/ )

2019-09-23 Thread David Brownlee
Just tried a native firefox-69.0.1 binary on NetBSD/amd64 9.0_BETA, and so far the stability issues I had with the firefox NetBSD/amd64 8 binaries (on 8 & 9) seem to have completely gone. I can consistently load maps.google.com, I no longer sometimes see odd delays when fetching pages (including

Re: Stability issues with recent NetBSD 9.0_BETA amd64

2019-09-18 Thread David Brownlee
On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 at 18:18, David Brownlee wrote: > > On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 at 17:02, David Brownlee wrote: > > > > On Mon, 16 Sep 2019 at 18:38, matthew green wrote: > > > > > > > I've been playing with NetBSD 9.0_BETA amd64 from nyftp on a lap

Re: Stability issues with recent NetBSD 9.0_BETA amd64

2019-09-18 Thread David Brownlee
On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 at 10:05, wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 09:02:33PM +0100, David Brownlee wrote: > > The symptoms include > > - netbsd-8 firefox binary segfault every time on startup. Doesn't always > > happen, but once it starts, they always seem to seg

Re: Stability issues with recent NetBSD 9.0_BETA amd64

2019-09-17 Thread David Brownlee
On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 at 17:02, David Brownlee wrote: > > On Mon, 16 Sep 2019 at 18:38, matthew green wrote: > > > > > I've been playing with NetBSD 9.0_BETA amd64 from nyftp on a laptop for a > > > little while and noticed a significant drop in stability sometim

Re: Stability issues with recent NetBSD 9.0_BETA amd64

2019-09-17 Thread David Brownlee
On Mon, 16 Sep 2019 at 18:38, matthew green wrote: > > > I've been playing with NetBSD 9.0_BETA amd64 from nyftp on a laptop for a > > little while and noticed a significant drop in stability sometime after Aug > > 18 (I have an Aug 18 kernel which seems solid, but Sep 2, 7 and 10 also > > panic)

Stability issues with recent NetBSD 9.0_BETA amd64

2019-09-16 Thread David Brownlee
I've been playing with NetBSD 9.0_BETA amd64 from nyftp on a laptop for a little while and noticed a significant drop in stability sometime after Aug 18 (I have an Aug 18 kernel which seems solid, but Sep 2, 7 and 10 also panic) The symptoms include - netbsd-8 firefox binary segfault every time

USB C hub with Ethernet & display port?

2019-09-09 Thread David Brownlee
Does anyone know of a USB C hub which can be used to delivery power and includes an Ethernet and some form of HDMI or other display port with a NetBSD driver (maybe DisplayLink DL-1x0/1x5 compatible for use with the udl driver) I'm looking for something that I can leave on the desk with USB C

Re: Trackpad disabled in BIOS but activated in NetBSD

2019-08-28 Thread David Brownlee
On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 at 23:20, Brett Lymn wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 10:51:09AM +0100, David Brownlee wrote: > > > > Is there a way to have NetBSD honour the same BIOS setting as Windows? - > > this is under NetBSD-8 and latest -9 > > > > use sysctl

Re: Trackpad disabled in BIOS but activated in NetBSD

2019-08-27 Thread David Brownlee
On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 at 16:52, Michael van Elst wrote: > > a...@absd.org (David Brownlee) writes: > > >Is there a way to have NetBSD honour the same BIOS setting as Windows? - > >this is under NetBSD-8 and latest -9 > > > >[ 1.0131298] pms0 at pckbc1 (aux slot)

Trackpad disabled in BIOS but activated in NetBSD

2019-08-27 Thread David Brownlee
I've just switched from a Thinkpad T430 to a T480 I use the trackpoint and disable the trackpad in the BIOS, which works fine in Windows, but NetBSD seems to pickup and re-enable the trackpad, which is quite frustrating as I have endless phantom click and drags :) Is there a way to have NetBSD

Re: Switching ttys to /dev/constty by default (Was: Enabling xdm in sysinst breaks console login?)

2019-07-17 Thread David Brownlee
On Wed, 17 Jul 2019 at 01:25, Brian Buhrow wrote: > > hello. What happens with xen consoles or serial consoles? Last I checked it "Just Worked". I don't have a NetBSD DOMU to hand, but will retest DOM0 and serial console today and a DOMU as soon as I can get one setup (unless someone

Re: Switching ttys to /dev/constty by default (Was: Enabling xdm in sysinst breaks console login?)

2019-07-16 Thread David Brownlee
On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 22:40, David Brownlee wrote: > [...history of /dev/constty introduction 16 years ago...] Final call - any objections to switching /dev/ttys entries from /dev/console to /dev/constty? It specifically fixes the use case of - user enables xdm via sysinst, or adds 'xdm=

Re: USB tethering setup

2019-06-26 Thread David Brownlee
On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 at 09:56, Thomas Mueller wrote: > > I couldn't find any documentation for USB tethering; I looked in the NetBSD > Guide online. > > USB tethering would enable a smartphone to share its internet connection with > a laptop or desktop computer via USB connection. > > There is

Switching ttys to /dev/constty by default (Was: Enabling xdm in sysinst breaks console login?)

2019-06-25 Thread David Brownlee
On Sun, 9 Jun 2019 at 15:30, Valery Ushakov wrote: > [... some clipped ...] > > revision 1.19 > date: 2008-10-07 14:00:01 +0400; author: abs; state: Exp; lines: +2 -1; > branches: 1.19.18; 1.19.20; > Add a constty entry, marked 'off', with otherwise the same

Re: usb device modifying state of another driver on plug/unplug event

2019-06-13 Thread David Brownlee
On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 at 05:27, Brett Lymn wrote: > I was wondering if anyone has an opinion on the best way to have a usb > device modify the state of another device driver on plug and unplug. > > The reason I was thinking about this is that I have noticed on Windows > 10 they have a checkbox on

Re: sysinst garbled screen on i386 - curses issue?

2019-06-09 Thread David Brownlee
On Sun, 9 Jun 2019 at 09:00, Brett Lymn wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 08, 2019 at 01:25:24AM +0300, Valery Ushakov wrote: > > > > lib/54263? > > I have just committed a fix to libcurses that resolves the issue in the > test case that Martin gave (it also fixes the previous PR too) > > Please re-test

Re: Enabling xdm in sysinst breaks console login?

2019-06-09 Thread David Brownlee
On Sun, 9 Jun 2019 at 09:21, Martin Husemann wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 08, 2019 at 10:00:16PM +0100, David Brownlee wrote: > > So the next question is - what should the default be - as shipping a > > system which has an option to enable xdm when then breaks console > >

Re: Enabling xdm in sysinst breaks console login?

2019-06-08 Thread David Brownlee
On Sat, 8 Jun 2019 at 21:47, John D. Baker wrote: > > Possibly "/etc/ttys" has "console" marked "on" so 'init' starts 'getty' > on it. > > Then, 'xdm's 'Xsetup_0' script launches 'xconsole' and the two get into > a fight. > > I always make sure "/etc/ttys" has "console" marked "off" and mark >

Enabling xdm in sysinst breaks console login?

2019-06-08 Thread David Brownlee
Just installed NetBSD 8.99.42/i386 on a ThinkPad T41 and enabled xdm in the sysinst menu. After xdm started I hit Ctrl+Alt+F1 to switch vty but was unable to login - at first no characters were shown. Evenutally I was able to type root and have it shown, but it just moved the display down and did

sysinst garbled screen on i386 - curses issue?

2019-06-07 Thread David Brownlee
Just pulled the latest install image for 8.99.42 from nycdn, and tested on a ThinkPad T41 (Unrelated - I noticed was an acpi battery update appearing over the middle of the screen, which was a little jarring, but not the end of the world) There seems to be something off with the cursor

Suspend/resume on a Thinkpad T420s (success!)

2019-06-05 Thread David Brownlee
Just tried the latest amd64 8.99.42 on top of a NetBSD-8 install on a Thinkpad T420s and it survived multiple suspend/resume cycles, both from the console and X11. (When suspended from X11 it resumed to a blank screen with a cursor and needed a Ctrl+Alt+F1 / Ctrl+Alt+F5 to reset the display).

Re: (too) big font on console?

2019-04-23 Thread David Brownlee
On Sun, 21 Apr 2019 at 07:38, Martin Husemann wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 08:31:29PM +, m...@netbsd.org wrote: > > I understand it's meant to aim for 80x25, which is what we used to have. > > There were some complaint threads about how much smaller DRM/KMS made > > things, but perhaps

Re: Java & NetBSD (JNA or Linux emulation)

2019-04-02 Thread David Brownlee
On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 04:27, Kimihiro Nonaka wrote: > > Hi, > > On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 11:34 AM David Brownlee wrote: > > > The two obvious options would be to build the native libraries for NetBSD > > (which in turn needs JNA) or to run under the oracle-8 JDK using

Re: Java & NetBSD (JNA or Linux emulation)

2019-04-01 Thread David Brownlee
On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 15:43, Jared McNeill wrote: > > On Fri, 29 Mar 2019, David Brownlee wrote: > > > Trying to fire up wildfly under the Linux oracle-8 JDK instead of native > > OpenJDK8 seems to start up OK (bar an inotify error), and the dl4j > > processing works

Java & NetBSD (JNA or Linux emulation)

2019-03-31 Thread David Brownlee
I have a java project which needs to run some dl4j (Deep Learning for Java) code. Unfortunately dl4j requires some native libraries The two obvious options would be to build the native libraries for NetBSD (which in turn needs JNA) or to run under the oracle-8 JDK using Linux emulation. Trying

wifi SIOCS80211 error in 8.99.32 and iwn0

2019-01-30 Thread David Brownlee
I'm running a netbsd-8 userland with the latest nyftp current kernel on amd64 and just saw this on boot: iwn0: starting wpa_supplicant iwn0: failed to start wpa_supplicant iwn0: Sucessfully initialized wpa_supplicant ioctl[SIOCS80211, op=16, arg_len=0]: Inappropriate ioctl for device iwn0: Failed

Re: ThinkPad - suspend-to-RAM intel-x86 issues and tests

2018-12-05 Thread David Brownlee
On Sat, 1 Dec 2018 at 01:27, SAITOH Masanobu wrote: > > Committed. > Hi - is this worth pulling up into netbsd-8? I ran a quick test and my T420s suspends/resumes fine with a netbsd-8 kernel and no X11 running. x11 looks to have issues which seem resolved in current, but it feels like a

Re: ThinkPad - suspend-to-RAM intel-x86 issues and tests

2018-11-30 Thread David Brownlee
On Thu, 29 Nov 2018 at 06:15, Masanobu SAITOH wrote: > > On 2018/11/28 22:12, SAITOH Masanobu wrote: > >>> http://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/misc/abs/acpi-suspend-resume/pcidump.pre > >>> http://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/misc/abs/acpi-suspend-resume/pcidump.post > >> > >> The diff says we should

Re: ThinkPad - suspend-to-RAM intel-x86 issues and tests

2018-11-28 Thread David Brownlee
On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 02:20, David H. Gutteridge wrote: > > On Sat, 2018-11-24 at 22:47 +, David Brownlee wrote: > > On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 at 18:52, David H. Gutteridge > > wrote: > > > On Fri, 2018-11-23 at 21:42 +, David Brownlee wrote: > > > >

Re: ThinkPad - suspend-to-RAM intel-x86 issues and tests

2018-11-27 Thread David Brownlee
On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 at 18:10, David Brownlee wrote: > > On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 at 08:27, Masanobu SAITOH wrote: > > > > Hi, David. > > > > On 2018/11/26 6:11, David Brownlee wrote: > > > I've bisected the changes against the github src copy, and it loo

Re: ThinkPad - suspend-to-RAM intel-x86 issues and tests

2018-11-27 Thread David Brownlee
On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 at 08:27, Masanobu SAITOH wrote: > > Hi, David. > > On 2018/11/26 6:11, David Brownlee wrote: > > I've bisected the changes against the github src copy, and it looks like > > the suspend/resume issue is related to the followin

Re: ThinkPad - suspend-to-RAM intel-x86 issues and tests

2018-11-27 Thread David Brownlee
On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 at 21:11, David Brownlee wrote: > > I've bisected the changes against the github src copy, and it looks like the > suspend/resume issue is related to the following commit: > > commit 0fe469276f49bf0dc003300e0b8a35a80b7b246d (HEAD) > Author: jdolecek >

Re: ThinkPad - suspend-to-RAM intel-x86 issues and tests

2018-11-25 Thread David Brownlee
copied from jmcneill's msk(4) I tried building from HEAD with just that one commit reverted, and my T420s suspends and resumes again! iwn0 is still non responsive after resume and wm0 will not pick up an IP via dhcpcd, but the disk responds :-p David On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 at 22:47, David Brownlee

Re: ThinkPad - suspend-to-RAM intel-x86 issues and tests

2018-11-24 Thread David Brownlee
On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 at 18:52, David H. Gutteridge wrote: > > On Fri, 2018-11-23 at 21:42 +, David Brownlee wrote: > > Another couple of data points in case it helps > > > > Tested on Thinkpad T420s and T530 with NetBSD/amd64 - both have > > similar behavio

Re: ThinkPad - suspend-to-RAM intel-x86 issues and tests

2018-11-23 Thread David Brownlee
Another couple of data points in case it helps Tested on Thinkpad T420s and T530 with NetBSD/amd64 - both have similar behaviour 8.99.25 Single user: - Suspends and seems to resume but hangs on first disk access "wd0a: device timeout reading fsbn ..." netbsd-8 Single user: - Suspend

Re: Local {amd,sparc}64 builds revert to *.tgz sets?

2018-11-21 Thread David Brownlee
On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 at 15:55, Martin Husemann wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 03:52:29PM +, David Brownlee wrote: > > Why would I as a user expect USE_PIGZGZIP to break USE_XZ_SETS, or > > conversely > > USE_XZ_SETS to silently ignore USE_PIGZGZIP. That reeks of h

Re: Local {amd,sparc}64 builds revert to *.tgz sets?

2018-11-21 Thread David Brownlee
On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 at 15:28, Martin Husemann wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 03:24:28PM +, David Brownlee wrote: > > Maybe abort the build with an error - its asking for an unresolvable > > combination. Anything else violates the POLS. > > I disagree - it just wor

Re: Local {amd,sparc}64 builds revert to *.tgz sets?

2018-11-21 Thread David Brownlee
On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 at 14:12, Michael van Elst wrote: > mar...@duskware.de (Martin Husemann) writes: > > >Pigz can not create .xz files, so if you force USE_PIGZ_GZIP=yes > >it will override the USE_XZ_SETS and you will get .tgz again. > > I'd rather reverse that logic. Chose the output format

Running NetBSD at vultr.com (Was: Running NetBSD in Google Cloud?)

2017-11-07 Thread David Brownlee
On 7 November 2017 at 08:14, Fekete Zoltán wrote: > > It's not strictly on topic, just as an additional info. > > I've tried vultr.com for NetBSD, and has been using for a year. It's nearly > perfectly compatible, so I could recommend. Could I ask what you did to install

Re: file corruption

2017-04-29 Thread David Brownlee
On 29 April 2017 at 08:45, Thomas Mueller <mueller6...@twc.com> wrote: > from Patrick Welche and David Brownlee: > >> > Netbooting 7.1, a cvs co through re(4) appears to be clean. >> > Unfortunately I can't run 7.1, as it's a new computer which only >> >

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