Re: Remove fortune quotes attributed to or providing admiration of Adolf Hitler [pr bin/52735]

2017-11-18 Thread Chavdar Ivanov
It is strange indeed to find them here, although not unexplainable, the laws are different, one can buy "Mein Kampf" from any book shop in the UK (this startled me when I came here some 28 years ago - it was surrounded by "The Capital" and "The Communist Manifesto"...). Anyway - in the proposed

Re: Remove fortune quotes attributed to or providing admiration of Adolf Hitler [pr bin/52735]

2017-11-18 Thread Hauke Fath
On Sat, 18 Nov 2017 13:21:25 +0100, Rhialto wrote: > It has come to my attention that FreeBSD has removed fortunes quoted > from Adolf Hitler a few days ago. I was very surprised that there > actually were such quotes! Nihil novae...

Re: Remove fortune quotes attributed to or providing admiration of Adolf Hitler [pr bin/52735]

2017-11-18 Thread Andy Ruhl
On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 5:41 AM, Chavdar Ivanov wrote: > even if it is perhaps a proper quote, but is worth remembering and > reminding people. At the risk of not being politically correct, I agree. The world seems intent on not remembering all history and even changing parts

Remove fortune quotes attributed to or providing admiration of Adolf Hitler [pr bin/52735]

2017-11-18 Thread Rhialto
It has come to my attention that FreeBSD has removed fortunes quoted from Adolf Hitler a few days ago. I was very surprised that there actually were such quotes! https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revision=325781 or

Re: Remove fortune quotes attributed to or providing admiration of Adolf Hitler [pr bin/52735]

2017-11-18 Thread Kamil Rytarowski
On 18.11.2017 13:21, Rhialto wrote: > Apart from those quotes being > wholly inappropriate in a list of funny quotes, they are probably > illegal in Germany (where I now happen to live). I don't know whether quotes are 'admiration', there are more controversial people like Stalin or Luther and

Re: Remove fortune quotes attributed to or providing admiration of Adolf Hitler [pr bin/52735]

2017-11-18 Thread Rhialto
On Sat 18 Nov 2017 at 15:02:01 +0100, Hauke Fath wrote: > And note the following excerpt from fortune(6): > > -oChoose only from potentially offensive aphorisms. Please, > please, >please request a potentially offensive fortune if and only > if you >believe,

Re: Remove fortune quotes attributed to or providing admiration of Adolf Hitler [pr bin/52735]

2017-11-18 Thread David Holland
On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 01:21:25PM +0100, Rhialto wrote: > I checked our fortune cookies database, and I was appalled to notice > that we do have the same quotes there. Apart from those quotes being > wholly inappropriate in a list of funny quotes, they are probably > illegal in Germany (where

Automated report: NetBSD-current/i386 build success

2017-11-18 Thread NetBSD Test Fixture
The NetBSD-current/i386 build is working again. The following commits were made between the last failed build and the successful build: 2017.11.19.01.31.53 christos src/games/fortune/datfiles/fortunes2,v 1.61 2017.11.19.01.31.53 christos src/games/fortune/datfiles/fortunes2-o.real,v

Re: Remove fortune quotes attributed to or providing admiration of Adolf Hitler [pr bin/52735]

2017-11-18 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 09:24:18PM +0100, Rhialto wrote: > I agree that bad history should be remembered in context and not > forgotten. However, that is not what these quotes do. They give no > context, and they make A.H. seem like a relatively normal person. Now if > he was quoted at his worst,

iwn failure on -current (XEN3_DOM0)

2017-11-18 Thread Chavdar Ivanov
Hi, This may belong to port-xen@ or elsewhere, but as it is ran on -current from today and the behaviour was different than a month or so ago, I am here. I used to run DOM0 on xen4.8, the wireless interface worked for the DOM0, although I could never make the bridge work (it worked with the

daily CVS update output

2017-11-18 Thread NetBSD source update
Updating src tree: P src/external/cddl/osnet/sys/sys/kmem.h P src/games/fortune/datfiles/fortunes P src/games/fortune/datfiles/fortunes2 P src/games/fortune/datfiles/fortunes2-o.real P src/share/dict/web2 P src/share/misc/acronyms-o.real P src/sys/conf/files P

Re: Remove fortune quotes attributed to or providing admiration of Adolf Hitler [pr bin/52735]

2017-11-18 Thread Harry Waddell
On Sat, 18 Nov 2017 21:24:18 +0100 Rhialto wrote: > I agree that bad history should be remembered in context and not > forgotten. However, that is not what these quotes do. They give no > context, and they make A.H. seem like a relatively normal person. These "normalizing"

Re: Remove fortune quotes attributed to or providing admiration of Adolf Hitler [pr bin/52735]

2017-11-18 Thread maya
Hi, I thought a bit about this after seeing FreeBSD remove the database. I do agree there are offensive things, but it would be nice not to have a daily debate for all of eternity about whether every single quote is offensive enough to be removed. The FreeBSD method is tempting, but I know a lot

Automated report: NetBSD-current/i386 build failure

2017-11-18 Thread NetBSD Test Fixture
This is an automatically generated notice of a NetBSD-current/i386 build failure. The failure occurred on babylon5.netbsd.org, a NetBSD/amd64 host, using sources from CVS date 2017.11.18.13.51.56. An extract from the build.sh output follows: # compile dm/dm_table.o

Re: Remove fortune quotes attributed to or providing admiration of Adolf Hitler [pr bin/52735]

2017-11-18 Thread Tom Ivar Helbekkmo
m...@netbsd.org writes: > For any fortune quote you add, you may remove another, no questions > asked. > > For you, that means you can get rid of things you find even slightly > offensive without needing to convince another person of it being > "offensive enough". I assume this was intended as

Re: Remove fortune quotes attributed to or providing admiration of Adolf Hitler [pr bin/52735]

2017-11-18 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 01:21:25PM +0100, Rhialto wrote: > I checked our fortune cookies database, and I was appalled to notice > that we do have the same quotes there. Apart from those quotes being > wholly inappropriate in a list of funny quotes, they are probably > illegal in Germany (where I

Re: Remove fortune quotes attributed to or providing admiration of Adolf Hitler [pr bin/52735]

2017-11-18 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Rhialto wrote: |It has come to my attention that FreeBSD has removed fortunes quoted |from Adolf Hitler a few days ago. I was very surprised that there I found this a terribly ridiculous change and myself up the wall. How useful is it cleaning up the room until it looks super