Sorry, that last one from me was out of line. I'm just tired of being
accused of sending my messages as attachments by people with broken MUAs,
and then their claiming that their MUA must handle MIME fine because they
can click on the pretty little icon and have attachments magically open for
At 12:30 AM -0800 12/9/00, Ray Dillinger wrote:
On Fri, 8 Dec 2000, Anonymous wrote:
update HONG KONG--Siemens has a solution for people who constantly
forget computer passwords: a mouse that recognizes fingerprints.
By lightly tapping the fingertip sensor located at the top of the
mouse,
"Trei, Peter" wrote:
Unless there is a specific loophole for Muslim women's veils, I suppose
they are technically in violation, but as I said, these laws are hardly
ever invoked. If say, there were a rash of terrorist attacks involving
veiled persons occured, there'd be crackdown.
One of the
So this is interesting, but you do understand that from a strictly logical
perspective it's completely inconsistent and makes no sense whatsoever??
Mr. Murphy complains that Gaza does not meet this "requirements" for being
an anarchy - I would then respectully ask "what does???".. If Gaza is
On Sat, Dec 09, 2000 at 03:00:47AM -0800, Jonathan Wienke wrote:
Hasn't any seen the movie 6th Day? Who needs a password when you can borrow
the necessary biometric token from its owner if you have a hatchet or decent
knife?
I taped a CSPAN show about two years ago before a bunch of high
Ond 12/09/2000, Ray Dillinger wrote:
It is illegal in Georgia, and a number of other Southern states of the
US, to appear in public wearing a mask.
Not that it's usually enforced on anybody but the Ku Klux Klan.
Dunno about other countries and other states.
In "Church of the American
The debate about "fractal dimensions" and "geodesic networks" and
what characterizes them is part of a much larger analysis of systems
in general.
Minsky once said that most of AI is about people applying their own
names to previously studied concepts and phenomena. This applies to
On Sat, Dec 09, 2000 at 10:06:03PM +0100, Anonymous wrote:
I was unable to locate any other states with statutes addressing "mask
wearing" in public (without intent to commit burglary). No doubt the rest
of the offending rules are ordinances instead.
Also see 18 USC 242 and 42 USC 1985
Hot dayum, we got the ATF on that one!!!
-p
"Those who would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve
neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin, 1759
Greg Broiles [EMAIL PROTECTED]@cyberpass.net on 12/09/2000 05:34:17 PM
Please respond to Greg Broiles [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Anonymous [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oklahoma has a state statute prohibiting mask wearing (note the
exceptions):
§ 1301. Masks and hoods--Unlawful to wear--Exceptions
It shall be unlawful for any person in this state to wear a mask, hood
or covering, which conceals the identity of the
Hi
Just a short notice on the Echelon-discussion in Denmark
The danish parliament Folketinget has declined to aid the EU committee
which is investigating Echelon. The EU committee formally contacted the
head of the parliaments permanent select committee for controlling the
intelligence-services
Nomen Nescio wrote:
I guess an equivalent ID will do. in germany, you need your ID card to
open a bank account (um, for those not in the know: we have state-issue
ID cards in addition to passports. the passport is a travel document,
used to visit non-EU countries. the ID card is used
Petro wrote:
R. A. Hettinga wrote:
[...]
As I've written, the FBI should run quality house cleaning services
in large cities.
How do you know they don't?
In every office or factory I've ever been in, including government ones
where we kept paper copies of tax returns (yes folks,
At 8:30 AM -0500 on 12/8/00, BNA Highlights wrote:
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A meeting of business leaders in Redmond, Washington led to
a frank debate over the insufficiency of North American
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to play a key role in
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On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, petro wrote:
Mr. Brown (in the library with a candlestick) said:
(RAH might have called it a geodesic political culture if he hadn't got
this strange Marxist idea that politics is just an emergent property of
economics :-)
Just by the way, how widespread is this use of
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
At 8:46 AM -0800 on 12/8/00, Ray Dillinger wrote:
Just by the way, how widespread is this use of the word 'geodesic'?
Not especially. :-).
Offhand, I'd refer to many of the things I've seen it used for here
as 'distributed' or 'fractal'. Is 'geodesic'
On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 09:07:38AM -0500, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
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| At 8:30 AM -0500 on 12/8/00, BNA Highlights wrote:
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|
| THOUGH TECHNOLOGY MIGHT HELP PRIVACY
| A meeting of business leaders in Redmond, Washington led to
| a frank debate over the insufficiency of North American
| action
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not to want any politics discussion, and they are a closed list, so
why is political discussion going to it?]
At 11:50 AM -0500 12/8/00, Adam Shostack wrote:
On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 09:07:38AM -0500, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
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At 08:46 AM 12/8/00 -0800, Ray Dillinger wrote:
On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, petro wrote:
Mr. Brown (in the library with a candlestick) said:
(RAH might have called it a geodesic political culture if he hadn't got
this strange Marxist idea that politics is just an emergent property of
economics :-)
At 3:57 PM -0800 12/8/00, Ray Dillinger wrote:
On Fri, 8 Dec 2000, Jim Choate wrote:
Fractal simply means non-integer dimension.
Yeah, that's where it started. But I'm using it more in the
sense of meaning the properties that fractal structures have;
self-similarity across scales, for one,
At 5:49 PM -0800 on 12/8/00, Bill Stewart wrote:
At 02:47 PM 12/8/00 -0600, Jim Choate emetted:
'fractal geodesic network' is spin doctor bullshit.
Well, buzzword bingo output anyway.
:-). "Neological" is so much more... euphemisitic...
And the Internet is most certainly NOT(!) geodesic
perhaps the scale larger than the highest layer nodes is no longer
recognisable as being part of the fractal.
Likewise the nodes at each ppp have some organization as to how they handle
data internaly.
The shape of a shoreline is often used to illustrate fractal self
similarity, but you quickly
update HONG KONG--Siemens has a solution for people who constantly forget computer
passwords: a mouse that recognizes fingerprints.
Called the ID Mouse, the device uses biometrics to take advantage of the unique
features of people's fingerprints. German electronics maker Siemens, which showed
By Stephen Shankland
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
December 8, 2000, 1:05 p.m. PT
URL: http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-4062758.html
The administrator of a popular computer security mailing list banned postings from
Microsoft on Thursday after the company stripped detailed information out of
By JOHN SCHWARTZ
EDMOND, Wash., Dec. 7 Ñ Trust us. Please?
That is the message from leaders of high-technology businesses and advocacy groups at
SafeNet 2000, a Microsoft-sponsored conference on computer security and privacy.
The stated purpose of the conference, which opened here today, is
By Brian McWilliams
In an attempt to show that personal firewalls may afford their users little protection
against serious threats, a respected PC security expert has released a new software
tool that pokes holes in many of the leading desktop security packages.
Security-conscious Internet
At 10:14 AM -0500 12/8/00, Trei, Peter wrote:
File: SMIME.txt
Sean writes:
ASCII plain text *is* The Way. But guess what, PGP/MIME *is* plain text.
You can even parse it with your eyeballs.
Sean: Guess what: Your message comes as an attachment, which I have
to open seperately.
Peter
"R. A. Hettinga" wrote:
[...]
I am not, of course, a banking lawyer, but I certainly hang out with enough
of those folks these days, I've certainly had enough of this stuff shoved
into my head over the years, and, I expect that to get a bank account
without a Social Security number in
Sounds like Stephen King's 'The Plant" All right.
Question: What has this got to do with a hacking mailing list?
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At 7:48 PM -0500 12/6/00, Trei, Peter wrote:
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throw-away yahoo account) is a troll,
and wonder if Tim might have been the author?
I have suspected this in the past over
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R. A. Hettinga[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote
You're thinking of something else, but you're close enough. For instance,
there are laws in most jurisdictions about requiring a social security
number to open a bank account
Are you saying that a visiting foreigner can't open a bank account
At 10:20 AM -0500 on 12/7/00, Trei, Peter wrote:
Are you saying that a visiting foreigner can't open a bank account in the
US?
I'd be quite suprised if this is the case.
I would be surprised if you didn't need at least a tax ID number, myself.
I'm not sure, because I don't have one, but I
Green carders, yes. Visiting foreigners who are not
working, not neccesarily. Tourists certainly not.
How about if James Higginsbottom opens an account
in the London branch of Citibank? Does he need a US
SSN to do so? (I don't think so). Can he use the account
in the US (I suspect he can).
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At 10:29 AM -0500 on 12/7/00, Trei, Peter wrote:
Green carders, yes. Visiting foreigners who are not
working, not neccesarily. Tourists certainly not.
How about if James Higginsbottom opens an account
in the London branch of Citibank? Does he need a US
SSN to do so? (I don't think so).
--
At 05:39 AM 12/7/2000 -0500, Matthew Gaylor wrote:
The US Corrections System currently has 458,000 Drug War Prisoners.
This figure may be a substantial under estimate, for it is fairly common
practice in some courts, when someone is charged with a serious victimless
illegal act, to
--
At 10:20 AM -0500 on 12/7/00, Trei, Peter wrote:
Are you saying that a visiting foreigner can't open a bank account in the
US?
I'd be quite suprised if this is the case.
At 10:25 AM 12/7/2000 -0500, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
I would be surprised if you didn't need at least a
"Trei, Peter" wrote:
R. A. Hettinga[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote
You're thinking of something else, but you're close enough. For instance,
there are laws in most jurisdictions about requiring a social security
number to open a bank account
Are you saying that a visiting foreigner
At 10:27 AM + 12/7/00, Steve Mynott wrote:
On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 05:02:17PM -0800, Tim May wrote:
Rasha sounds like the typical illiterate student who has to take
remedial English upon her arrival at Beaver College. I had a roommate
in college who was one of these types, having to
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Yes, if you receive a subpoena, there will be information with the document that instructs you on how to contact a clerk that will make travel arrangements for you if necessary. The rule here is that they will compensate you, or outright
At 8:59 AM -0800 on 12/7/00, James A. Donald wrote:
Many years ago
Ah.
:-).
Cheers,
RAH
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"... however it may deserve
- Original Message -
From: "Tom Vogt" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[re: Muslim women in vail, uncovering]
that would be interesting to watch. for those people, the
"masquerade" is NON optional, and - as I understand it
- they simply can't give in. contrary to all the internet
privacy,
where we
Tom Vogt wrote:
I guess an equivalent ID will do. in germany, you need your ID card to
open a bank account (um, for those not in the know: we have state-issue
ID cards in addition to passports. the passport is a travel document,
used to visit non-EU countries. the ID card is used inside the
R. A. Hettinga wrote:
Duncan Frissell popped up here on cypherpunks with pointers to the odd
bank in South Dakota or somewhere, 4 or 5 years ago, where you could get
a bank account without a SSN. It was exceptional in its example, and I
would doubt it possible even now.
...
Has anyone
On the rijndael page I see this note below the optimized code link :
IMPORTANT NOTE ! This code was written in order to clarify the
mathematical description, and to run the statistical test. Without
modification, it should not
be used to encrypt files, or for any other application.
What exactly
Reply-To: "Kent Snyder-The Liberty Committee"
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: "Kent Snyder-The Liberty Committee" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Declan McCullagh" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Release: Democracy or Republic?
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 13:57:19 -0500
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200
About the American Hyphen Society
The American Hyphen Society is a community-based, not-for-profit,
grass-roots conciousness-raising/education-research alliance that seeks
to help effectuate the across-the-board self-empowerment of wide-ranging
culture-, nationality-, ethnicity-, creed-,
It appears that the tactical chemical laser the US has been hoping to
deploy to protect the Zionist Entity from rockets launched by Hezbollah
guerrillas in southern Lebanon is, in the words of its developers, "not
ready for action."
http://www.newsday.com/ap/text/international/ap796.htm
Anybody know what happened to openpgp.net? I haven't had a cpunks post
since last night.
On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 05:39:29PM -0800, petro wrote:
Mr. May said:
At 2:27 PM -0500 12/3/00, Adam Langley wrote:
Attachment converted: G4 Tower HD:UK Govt seeks to capture and st
(MiME/CSOm) (F86A)
This is really getting out of hand! Attempting to open this message,
by clicking
At 05:31 PM 12/5/00 -0500, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
An instructive case. Apparently they used the keystroke monitoring
to obtain the pgp passphrase, which was then used to decrypt the files.
A PDA would have been harder to hack, one imagines.
Are there padlockable metal cases for PDAs?
As I've
Mr. May:
Frankly, the PGP community veered off the track toward crapola about
standards, escrow, etc., instead of concentrating on the core
issues. PGP as text is a solved problem. The rest of the story is to
ensure that pass phrases and keys are not black-bagged.
Forget fancy GUIs, forget
What I find most annoying about police entrapment is the damage to
children these police offers are responsible for. Bob Matthews who heads
up the anti child porn squad in ontario spends most of his days raiding
the homes of potential child molesters who turn out to be kids. Alot of
kids
it is me the one who
asked for the picture . the email was received but then my email crashed and
lost it please send it a gain thankyou
fogstorm wrote:
So if an Australian puts it on his web site can the German government sue for
copyright infringement? Can they prosecute for violation of their anti Nazi
laws? If a German citizen views it in Amsterdam can his government prosecute
when he returns home?
they'll most likely try
Why was the State of California vs.Mr.O.J.
Simpson"allege" Trial of the Century such a mockery of justice ?
The contents thats associated with Docket No.99-80106 of the,U.S.Court
Of"Appeals"For The "Ninth Circuit" provides the answer !!!
Not only do you have proof of statutory crimes that
At 9:56 PM -0800 on 12/5/00, Greg Broiles wrote:
On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 05:16:03PM -0800, Tim May wrote:
The legal fight over whether the monitor was legal and whether the
information so obtained are in fact records of criminal activity is a
side-show. It remains practical evidence of how
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A minor clarification: The formal proposal known as "Know Your
Customer" was withdrawn (see my back articles on that topic). But
other regulations in the same vein require banks to require ID.
-Declan
On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 11:18:53AM -0800, Greg Broiles wrote:
On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at
On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 12:07:57PM -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote:
A minor clarification: The formal proposal known as "Know Your
Customer" was withdrawn (see my back articles on that topic). But
other regulations in the same vein require banks to require ID.
I'm not a banking law geek, but
Jim Choate blindly wrote:
What law?
The law was quoted just below the citation we provided:
18 USC 2703(f).
The news report quotation exactly matches what the law
says about preservation. Not that you'll read it but here it is again:
Here's the source for news story report about data
There's also a Linux port, if you want to kid yourself that you're
going to check the OS security yourself.
Peter Trei
--
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 12:00 PM
To: [EMAIL
At 9:04 AM -0800 on 12/6/00, Greg Broiles wrote:
Or am I thinking of something else?
You're thinking of something else, but you're close enough. For instance,
there are laws in most jurisdictions about requiring a social security
number to open a bank account, for any of a number of reasons
Oh, and the proposed KYC rules would have required banks to go further than
requiring ID (other current rules, as you say, require that) and try to
determine source of funds, etc.
-Declan
You're thinking of something slightly different. The Fed-Treasury-FDIC
action that caused so much fuss
At 11:50 AM 12/6/00 -0500, Trei, Peter wrote:
[ukcrypto and Perry's list deleted]
Dave Del Torto[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote
http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/world/DailyNews/phone001205.html
"...Hitting the 5, 6, 7 and 8 buttons on the phone gun fires
four .22-caliber rounds in
From reading the docs at EPIC, it is not clear that the FBI actually
got data from the planted device. The USA application dated June 8
asks for a supplemental order of extension of time in order to break
in and remove the device. This need was caused by Scarfo's unexpected
removal of the
At 4:02 PM -0800 12/6/00, IT IS SHOOOSH wrote:
Daer Reciever...
i am a stuend in an American University...
and i am taking a public speaking course...
i have this week to give a persuasive speech (my final
speech)...i thought of doing it about persuading my
audience that seatbelts are not safe as
Tim May[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
At 4:02 PM -0800 12/6/00, IT IS SHOOOSH wrote:
Daer Reciever...
i am a stuend in an American University...
and i am taking a public speaking course...
i have this week to give a persuasive speech (my final
speech)...i thought of doing it about
On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, Trei, Peter wrote:
Anyone else suspect that the original message (from a
throw-away yahoo account) is a troll,
and wonder if Tim might have been the author?
[Tim, perhaps you're not, but replying so quickly in this
manner to the original message (which is a canonical
At 7:48 PM -0500 12/6/00, Trei, Peter wrote:
Tim May[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
At 4:02 PM -0800 12/6/00, IT IS SHOOOSH wrote:
Daer Reciever...
i am a stuend in an American University...
and i am taking a public speaking course...
i have this week to give a persuasive speech (my
this sight sucks it doesn't tell you anything
Daer Reciever...
i am a stuend in an American University...
and i am taking a public speaking course...
i have this week to give a persuasive speech (my final
speech)...i thought of doing it about persuading my
audience that seatbelts are not safe as we
thought...there is a stydu done recently in
What kind of fucking mailing list is this?
- Original Message -
From: "IT IS SHOOOSH" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 7:02 PM
Subject: hi
Daer Reciever...
i am a stuend in an American University...
and i am taking a public speaking
On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, Islam M. Guemey wrote:
What kind of fucking mailing list is this?
No, I'm sorry. If you wanted a fucking mailing list you're
in the wrong place. There are plenty of lists devoted to
fucking, but this isn't one of them. This list is devoted
to cryptography and its
On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 01:08:13PM -0800, Tim May wrote:
Actually, I remember someone saying during the Parker case that a
government travel office would make all travel and lodging
arrangements.
My memory is hazy, but I believe this is correct. The form was for
incidentals like cab fare,
At 05:14 PM 12/6/00 -0800, Alan Olsen wrote:
For some reason I am reminded of a line from the movie _A Shoggoth On The
Roof_ (yes, there is such a beastie.):
"Every one of us has a shoggoth on the roof. Not a metaphorical
shoggoth, but a REAL Shoggoth! And how does he stay there you might
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On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, Islam M. Guemey wrote:
What kind of fucking mailing list is this?
- Original Message -
From: "IT IS SHOOOSH" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL
What does this look like, homework "R" us?! Please enlighten us as to
which university you are going to, so we can forward your mail to the
English department: it sounds like they could use a good
housecleaning. As for seatbelts: I would suggest that you never use one
yourself--perhaps we can
Amateur ;P~~~ 1 for effort, but 0 for style.
On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, Islam M. Guemey wrote:
What kind of fucking mailing list is this?
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 7:02 PM
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Mr. May:
(And then there's Riad Wahby, whose signed messages are unopenable
by Eudora Pro. He is doing _something_ which makes my very-common
mailer choke on his messages. Not my problem, as his messages then
get deleted by me unread. Again, standard ASCII is the lingua franca
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At 1:41 AM -0800 12/5/00, petro wrote:
Mr. May:
(And then there's Riad Wahby, whose signed messages are unopenable
by Eudora Pro. He is doing _something_ which makes my very-common
mailer choke on his messages. Not my problem, as his messages then
get deleted by me unread. Again, standard
Title: RE: About 5yr. log retention
Thanks for the cite, I was just about to stir it up. Anyone still want to see an example order?
ok,
Rush
-Original Message-
From: John Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 8:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re:
please send me password
re: the keystroke sniffer:
http://inq.philly.com/content/inquirer/2000/12/04/front_page/JMOB04.htm
The FBI application is at:
http://www.epic.org/crypto/breakin/application.pdf
The court order is at:
http://www.epic.org/crypto/breakin/order.pdf
--
A host is a host from coast to
On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 04:12:37PM -0500, David Lesher wrote:
re: the keystroke sniffer:
http://inq.philly.com/content/inquirer/2000/12/04/front_page/JMOB04.htm
The FBI application is at:
http://www.epic.org/crypto/breakin/application.pdf
The court order is at:
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Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 08:47:20 -0800
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An instructive case. Apparently they used the keystroke monitoring
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