Re: jewmail
On Sun, 06 Jun 2021 08:38:20 + Ali Reza Hayati wrote: > I don't think they are doing this because christianity tells them too. > There's a difference between jews as ethnicity and jews as religion. While I > can't blame any ethnicity for a crime, I understand religions are full of bad > ideas. I understand what you say though but it seems hateful (even if it > isn't). Well, I have no love for 'judeo christian' anti-culture in the abstract and I have even less love for the people who promote it. After all, ideas are irrelevant unless people do something with them. Now, for completness sake : I assumed you were a jew, wrongly assuming that Ali is a jewish name. After spying on your arpanet website and doing a couple of NSA-searches I'm guessing you might be persian with an arabic name. Or something like that. At any rate, probably not a jew =P So, for completness sake too, here's a big fuck you to islam as well. Nothing personal =) - Islam, jewism and christianity all share the same totalitarian, monopolistic and humanity-hating 'god'. Anyway, looks like we're on the same page as far as pigs, free software, the gmafia and a few other things go.
Re: jewmail
On Sat, 05 Jun 2021 21:11:28 + Ali Reza Hayati wrote: > What is a jew-fascist? anybody who parrots the jew party line. Jew party line being : * israel is a 'free democracy' and 'poor innocent victim' of palestine terrists * mentioning the involvement of jews at the top level of all organized crime, like banking, arpanet-nsa-spying, pentagon propaganda (aka mass media), MIC, etc is 'antisemitism' * western 'civilization' is 'founded' on jew-kristian 'values' * jews 'invented' 'capitalism', and 'everything else' * constant propaganda about jews killed in WWII while ignoring all the other 10s of millions of victims, especiallly mass murder commited by the anglo-US nazis, etc, etc. > > On June 5, 2021 8:43:47 PM UTC, "Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0" > wrote: > >On Sat, 5 Jun 2021 14:01:47 -0400 > >Karl Semich <0xl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >> > it feels sad? What's the problem with referring to fucking > >> > jewmail-nsa as jewmail-nsa, exactly? > >> > > >> > >> It feels angry when I mention my feeling? > >> > > > > hey karl, I have something for you to do. Go fuck yourself, karl. You > > and the rest of jew-fascists. > > > > > > > > -- > Ali Reza Hayati (https://alirezahayati.com) > Free culture activist and privacy advocate > PGP: 88A5 BDB7 E07C 39D0 8132 6412 DCB8 F138 B865 1771
grarpamp pfizer agent
On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 18:43:38 -0400 grarpamp wrote: > > I presented clear 'evidence' coming from govt liars. > > Again you admit to using bogus data, I explained what their data is supposed to mean and what it actually means. Way above your level of understanding, I see. Notice your 'alternative' implicit view. If the low numbers are false that's because the fake flu farce is, in your cowardly deranged mind, even more 'real'! You're an even more rabid propaganda agent than any 'foreign' govt providing low numbers. And that's because you're indeed a pfizer-pentagon propaganda agent who wants as much lies and hysteria as possible. Asshole. > > the fuck is VN > > Appears your ragebrained self glossed over the obvious > context that country codes were being used, meaning > Vietnam. oh you and your idiotic arpanet slang. Indeed the flu farce has a lot less influence in all of asiabecause it's mostly a US nazi or 'western' PSYOP. And the japanese and german govt have more 'credibility' that the govt of your nazi cesspool, or the govt of vietnam. But yeah data coming from the vietnamese govt is better than data coming from your employees. Anything is. > Queen Govt Cunt Cristina as usual. Bye. hilarious, the arpanet addicted fucktard who's constantly spamming arpanet propaganda can't even get right a piece of basic CIA info like the 'leader' of a 'country'. That cunt has been replaced by a new turd, two years ago. Check isuckCIAcock.gov. ps: stop changing the subject of my messages, asshole.
Re: TechRadar: Exclusive: Seagate 'exploring' possible new line of crypto-specific hard drives
On Mon, 31 May 2021 18:20:46 + (UTC) jim bell wrote: > I think I said that...somewhere. As the inventor of the SSD, did you 'invent' the wheel to? Too bad you didn't patent both eh. sure, sure. You 'invented' using flash memory to store stuff...
Re: Tor
On Sun, 30 May 2021 12:53:10 -0400 Karl Semich <0xl...@gmail.com> wrote: > Whenever you make a big project that threatens the major stuff, people come > in and mess it up, tor was created and is fully controlled by the US military. Do not spread misinformation about it. Nobody 'came in', the criminals who created tor were always there. Look up paul syverson.
Re: Coronavirus: Thread
On Sun, 30 May 2021 04:05:58 -0400 grarpamp wrote: > https://www.zerohedge.com/ > Is This The Man Behind The Global bla bla vomit. more fascist spam from the lowest kind of propaganda source possible, the 'zerohedge' cesspool for right wing fucktards. notice how grarpamp ignored all the 'evidence' I presented and just keeps robotically spamming like the good spammer-propaganda bot he is.
Re: Tor
On Fri, 28 May 2021 10:10:29 -0400 Karl wrote: > I'm looking at orbot and seeing it has "circuit padding" now. I don't know > whether this meets the requirements of chaff, and would like to know. according to their docs that padding is supposedly a defense against 'netflow' based analysis. I think 'netflow' is the name of the packet counting system on routers or something like that. there is no reason to believe that such padding achieves much.
Re: List Status
On Tue, 25 May 2021 09:48:20 -0700 Greg Newby wrote: > > None of this is nefarious or specific to cpunks. Other than the change > mentioned to remove the blacklists from Spamassassin, all of this stuff is > out-of-the-box with Ubuntu. Well, out-of-the-box ubuntu censors cock.li, which I would describe as nefarious. And it means that bona fide users of ubuntu end up unwillingly censoring cock.li. Which looks nefarious to me as well =P
Re: more email blocking/censorship.
joogle blocking cock.li > > First time for me. I don't think it ever happened since I started using > > it > > ~2.5 years ago. > > About 8 months ago, didn't yet test the problem further. I must have missed it. > >kinda looks like there is one 'shared' blocking list and it's being > > used by pg's spam filter, it's being used by google, and...the rest of the > > arpanet prolly. > > The insane rabid censors who concocted such anti-spam > measures as blocklists always said "If we can just get > every operator using this...". yeah. Well I assume that google wasn't invited to the list, but is the entity that created the list, that spamhaus garbage being a proxy of theirs or a close accomplice, whatever. > > Whether shared or not, freespeech, and freedom, is still > fucked by their tech. Of course now the tech for fucking > human freedom over is far more advanced, widespread, > and levied against all you humans with impunity by > such grand high powers. Well in the case of the cpunks list, I hope Greg will tune the server so that it stops wrongly flagging traffic from one the last, few, independent email providers as 'spam'.
Re: more email blocking/censorship.
I'm posting this on-list to make sure Shawn sees my reply. I replied to him directly but I don't know if the heliohost.us --> rushpost.com path works. As another datapoint, last week part(I think) of heliohost.us got banned by google, and if I send a message to gmail.com I do get a 'message can't be delivered' bla bla reply. I was also told that the bans eventually clear, though I have my doubts. On Fri, 21 May 2021 10:33:54 -0500 "Shawn K. Quinn" wrote: > On 5/20/21 21:20, juan wrote: > > > > > > I sent a message from pu...@tfwno.gf to gbne...@petascale.org (which I > > believe goes through gmail) and another message to karl and apparently they > > didn't get them which leads me to believe that cock.li messages are now > > being discarded by google/sent to gmail's spam folder or something? > > Gmail to cock.li (firemail.cc) works for me. Cock.li to Gmail hasn't > gone through yet after several minutes (nothing in spam folder). hotmail shows the same behaviour. Hotmail to cock.li works. Cock.li to hotmail messages are silently discarded. > > If this is intentional on the part of Google, it's absolutely despicable. kinda looks like there is one 'shared' blocking list and it's being used by pg's spam filter, it's being used by google, and...the rest of the arpanet prolly.
Re: more email blocking/censorship.
On Fri, 21 May 2021 02:07:11 -0400 Karl wrote: > Received no personal messages from you recently. Thanks for the confirmation. > > To reach me reliably basically repeated contact via multiple channels is > needed. Isn't it hilarious? Every new day all this technofascist garbage gets closer to useless, unless you send stuff from a@GOOGLENSA to b@GOOGLENSA. also, since last week the google criminals are also blocking heliohost.us so that's another link they cut. grarpamp wrote: >Send me test spam direct if you want. just sent you a message with subject "i love google" - Im sure that one will get through >Cock to gmail has vanished before. First time for me. I don't think it ever happened since I started using it ~2.5 years ago.
Re: *SPAM* Filter borked,
On Thu, 20 May 2021 16:16:33 -0700 Greg Newby wrote: > First, I'm glad Punk will interact with the tfwno.gf sysadmin. I'll > be happy to help, if there is anything I can do. > OK, so taking a better look, all of cock.li is blocked because the filter is blocking by IP address? [37.120.193.122 listed in zen.spamhaus.org] so this is just another govcorp attack on cock.li. Shocking.
Re: Bitcoin Private Denies Fraud Allegations and Calls for Halt to BTCP Trading
On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 17:07:40 -0500 grarpamp wrote: > But quit twisting, it was actually ~2M *BTCP* not BTC, I didn't twist anything. I used BTC as an example to show what 'only' 10% of THEFT can look like. What about "only 10%" inflation of the dollar supply? How much THEFT would that be? > > How much does crypto go up / down in 1w 1m 1y? What has that got to do with anything? What's the price of tea in china? > How many lost, stolen, premined, scammed, crooked, etc coins, > tokens, derivatives and quanta are in the entire cryptospace... ~50% > ... or more? And? You are saying that theft is OK because thieves exist? Or what. > How many $B's do Governments literally steal at gunpoint and spend on garbage? > This BTCP news is nothing in any relavant context. Oh, you are such a Master of Moral Philosophy. So if a guy steals 1k, 10k, 100k or even 10 millions, that's 'nothing' compared to what governments steal. So it's OK for anybody to steal up to 10 millions. Good to know. > > 2M BTCP... be happy that it might be in the hands of a > crypto anarchist that might use it for something interesting therein. lawl. But I'll look at the bright side. You are retarded enough to openly admit you are an advocate of THEFT, and you keep digging yourself deeper. Your reputation should be getting lots of credibility. > > > millions in value were stolen from all btc holders > > No, BTCP is at subject, not BTC. BTC used as an EXAMPLE. Get a dictionary and look up "example". While you are at it, learn what FRAUD means. And learn the name for "involuntary transfer of value", aka theft.
Re: Wardialing Modems Guerrilla Network Opensource Cyberspace [re: Tim May]
On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 13:11:31 +0100 "P.J. Westerhof" wrote: > Correct. > If memory serves me right, not only because some modems caused technical > issues with installed telephone infrastructure. But also because the > then customary flat rate for local telephone use there was no flat rate here. the phone company was a state monopoly then turned into a 'free market' 'private' government chartered monopoly. I think they were pleased wtih people using modems and paying their extortionary prices. > meant that you could > get on the Internet almost indefinitely if an Internet access point was > within reach, f.i. university or library. > This extra and sustained load could cause technical issues in itself, > but it also cost the phone companies a pretty penny in lost income. No > wonder the phone companies were quick to change their tariffs to usage > based. Hardly surprising. > > Gr. > Peter > > > Op 26-12-18 om 23:21 schreef jim bell: > > I think there was a time in the late 1970's when phone companies > > expressed resentment that their users were employing modems on their > > phone lines. > >
Re: Bitcoin Private Denies Fraud Allegations and Calls for Halt to BTCP Trading
On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 00:01:08 -0500 grarpamp wrote: > No one's addresses were stolen from. > Nothing was stolen, only created. LMAO! You are a clown grarpamp =) And thanks for showing your true colors - again. > System worked as deployed, who's "fault" is that. > No victim, no crime... only tort, which fails. > Aggress that at own riisk. > 10% inflation is nothing. LMAO!!! Did I thank you for showing your true colors? =) So what would 10% inflation look like in BTC? Let's see... 2.1 million bitcoins at $4000 - Oh, that would 8400 MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. Now, if 8400 millions are 'created'(hi hi hi) out of thin air, and the thieves who create them can use the 'money' to 'buy' stuff worth 8400 millions that means that 8400 millions in value were stolen from all btc holders. You know grarpamp, that's exactly who the dollar works and how the biggest fascist cesspool on the planet, amerika, is funded. Now go learn the fucking A of the ABC of economics. > Quit raging and have a nice day. > Or go argue that "Copyright violation" is theft, So called 'intellectual property' is theft. > and that "Taxes" aren't theft, too, lol. LMAO What a retard your are. News for you : inflation is a TAX. Fucking idiot. Go learn the ABC.
Re: Timothy C. May tribute - TDS “#1 Timothy C. May Fan Site”
On Wed, 26 Dec 2018 03:40:09 -0500 grarpamp wrote: > > Is there any actual source for that 'quote' apart from a twatter > > picture? > > This was scruz.general misc.survivalism 14y ago... > > Subject: Commie Rag praises MLK > Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:37:04 -0800 > Message-ID: <180120052037049449%timc...@got.net> > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/scruz.general/nH2QVBBBcNs/Oe8Ruund454J > https://scruz.general.narkive.com/29QgNUds/commie-rag-praises-mlk Thanks. The message doesn't sound completely authentic to me not because of it being stupidly racist but because of it being even more stupidly Fascist. What kind of fucktard would believe that the CIA does good things? If May wrote that, then fuck Tim May - his credentials as 'anarcho libertarian' take a pretty good hit. > > The net used to be alive, > now it's just owned and censored tool.
Re: Bitcoin Private Denies Fraud Allegations and Calls for Halt to BTCP Trading
On Wed, 26 Dec 2018 02:41:58 -0500 grarpamp wrote: > The problem is not so much that there were 2 million > inflationary coins mined (10% is nothing LMAO Some criminal scum STOLE 10% of the supply but that's 'nothing' > to markets and > buried in noise of natural adoption and volatility movements) priceless - where do you get this shit from grarpamp? =) > Also laughable they want to aggress and criminally prosecute > whodunit... WHAAA. 'misguided' people want to 'aggress' against piece of shit thieving scumbags. Peopel want to interfere with the right of thieves to steal!!! What a repugnant idea.
Re: Timothy C. May tribute - TDS â#1 Timothy C. May Fan Siteâ
On Tue, 25 Dec 2018 15:38:23 -0500 John Young wrote: > From: Tim May > Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 02:15:33 +0800 > To: cypherpu...@algebra.com > > ... [Sig tag] > > --Tim May > > We would go to their homes, and we'd kill their wives and > their children. We would kill their families I see that line appears in 10 messages in the 92-98 archives. I don't know what it means tho. Some sort of quote or reference to something? Anyway, I'm reading messages with the word "nigger". There are 137 (same 92-98 archive) > -:-:-:-:-:-:-: > Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, > ComSec 3DES: 831-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero > W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, > Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. > > > > > > > At 02:55 PM 12/25/2018, you wrote: > >On Tue, 25 Dec 2018 09:04:29 +1100 > >Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > > > >https://mobile.twitter.com/nathanielpopper/status/1076576924032331776/photo/1 > > > > so that's a journo from the joo york times saying that Tim > > May said this > > > > > >https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DvDE58vVAAA9Ob-.jpg:small > > > > > > Is there any actual source for that 'quote' apart from a > > twatter picture? > > > > by the way, why does the journo put a picture? Is it > > because if he wrote "nigger/spick" then he would be automatically > > banned by twatter's "artiifical intelligence(LMAO)" censoring bot? > > > > > >
Re: Timothy C. May tribute - TDS “#1 Timothy C. May Fan Site”
On Tue, 25 Dec 2018 09:04:29 +1100 Zenaan Harkness wrote: https://mobile.twitter.com/nathanielpopper/status/1076576924032331776/photo/1 so that's a journo from the joo york times saying that Tim May said this https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DvDE58vVAAA9Ob-.jpg:small Is there any actual source for that 'quote' apart from a twatter picture? by the way, why does the journo put a picture? Is it because if he wrote "nigger/spick" then he would be automatically banned by twatter's "artiifical intelligence(LMAO)" censoring bot?
Re: USA colleges rejuvenating: Appeals Court: Colleges Must Censor, Block Online Services If They Offend Someone - [PEACE]
On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 07:21:21 -0800 Razer wrote: > > "Fascism" isn't the ONLY word being orwellianly redefined. "Nationalism" has > been touted in the media as a fascist trait nationalism is a key trait of fascism. Then again it's no surprise that a jew-fascist wants to 'whitewash' nationalism.
Re: Tim May 1992 Post on Future of Cyberspace/Cryptology/Digital Money/Transnationalism
On Sun, 23 Dec 2018 22:55:23 + (UTC) jim bell wrote: > > >> 26 years is "forever" in technology. 26 years ago, very few people had > >> even heard of the "Internet". > > > Actually in the last 26 years there hasn't been any significant > >'technological' change *at all*. The only thing that happened is that > >microelectronics got relatively cheaper. > > You forgot that in 1992, typical dialup modems worked at 9600 bps. Now, most > people have access to 25 megabits/sec Internet. I don't think I've forgotten that. That fact isn't just too relevant to what I'm saying. TM : "Networks are multiplying beyond any hope of government control," Point is, 26 years ago there was no 'technological' reason for that to be true just like there's no reason for that to be true now. Networks were (supposedly...) beyond govcorp control simply because govcorp wasn't devoting many resources to control them, not because they lacked the 'technology' to control them. Yet another point is who 'owned' those networks. Oh wait, they were and are owned by a few monopoplies chartered by the government, monopolies that are of course just arms of the government. > I occasionally see people in discussion areas claim that "the U.S. > Government" was responsible for making "The Internet".I shut that talk down, You do? =) Yet it is a plain historical fact that the US govt and military were heavily involved in the creation of the internet. >by pointing out "Do you think that The Internet would have 'worked' if a >person, at home, had to connect up to his ISP at with a 300 bps modem? 1200 >bps? 2400 bps?"I counter by pointing out that the people REALLY responsible >for a usable Internet were those who developed the 9600 bps, 14,400 bps, and >28,800 bps modems. Rockwell, USR (US Robotics), Hayes, Telebit, and a few >others. Had that not existed, it would have been hard to make the Internet >available to most people. The main or only reason those audio modems were developed was to use the existing telephone lines. Yet in 1995 ethernet run at 100 megabits... > It took a lot of work to learn how to shove 28.8Kbits/sec down a 3000 Hz > channel. By and large, those people who did that were the ones who made the Internet of the late 90's possible. Nah. On the other hand, it's true that all the hardware was produced and is produced by pseudo 'private' government chartered firms. Which is how highly corporatist mixed economies work. Bottom line : the belief that freedom is 'served' by 'technology' is fully detached from reality.
Re: Tim May 1992 Post on Future of Cyberspace/Cryptology/Digital Money/Transnationalism
On Sun, 23 Dec 2018 09:47:23 + (UTC) jim bell wrote: > On Saturday, December 22, 2018, 7:06:34 PM PST, juan > wrote: > > > From: tc...@netcom.com (Timothy C. May) > > Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 11:06:29 PDT > >>>> To: cypherpu...@toad.com > >>> Subject: Some (Pseudo)Random Thoughts > > > >> Networks are multiplying beyond > >> any hope of government control, > > > > prophetic words. Except the prophesy was 100% wrong =) =( > > But I wouldn't blame Tim May. To be fair, here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcC0RNsallc is Tim May stating "The US and other societies around the world are facing a turning point, a fork in the road where one path leads to a surveillance society effectively where people have television cameras recording their actions and conversations on a computer, all their transactions at stores, everything is completely tracked. The other path, the other fork in the road moves in a direction where governments can't even collect taxes anymore because they don't know what interactions people are making. People are buying things and information from other countries and they won't even know in what countries the transactions are taking place." That's a 1997 japanese documentary about crypto. By the way, looks like the japanese 'forgot' to include you Jim. Then again, the video comes from the japanese government... > 26 years is "forever" in technology. 26 years ago, very few people had even > heard of the "Internet". Actually in the last 26 years there hasn't been any significant 'technological' change *at all*. The only thing that happened is that microelectronics got relatively cheaper. But as Tim May himself makes it clear, the very serious threat to freedom that 'technology' represents was well known at that time. And it was even better known and explained in 1962 Aldous Huxley - The Ultimate Revolution (Berkeley Speech 1962) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WaUkZXKA30 And in 1948 - 1984. And in 1931, Huxley again. And speaking of the internet being unknown, well it's funny that the internet was very well described already in 1909 THE MACHINE STOPS by E.M. Forster (1909) http://archive.ncsa.illinois.edu/prajlich/forster.html And lastly in 1895, another prediction of the 'progressive' 'accomplishments' of 'technology'. The Time Machine by H. G. Wells http://gutenberg.org/ebooks/35 And all that is off the top of my head. I'm sure there must be more... > > > >> bandwidths are skyrocketing, CPUs are > > >putting awesome power on our desktops, > > >PGP is generating incredible > >> interest, and social trends are making the time right for crypto > > >anarchy. > > > >And yet, 25 years later, we are closer than ever to > >crypto-techno-totalitarianism. > > > Don't blame me! Haha, I don't blame you =P > I told everyone in 1995 how to get rid of all government. I wouldn't have > been surprised if it had taken 10 years, but so far, it's been 23 years. > Ever heard the joke whose punchline is, "He sent two boats and a helicopter! > What more did you want?" > https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/fumbling-change/200905/two-boats-and-helicopter-thoughts-stress-management > Haha, the joke seemed somewhat familiar, but I didn't remember all of it. > > Jim Bell > > > > | > | > | > | | | > > | > > | > | > | | > Two Boats and a Helicopter: Thoughts on Stress Management > > I think about this joke a lot more than I wish I did. > | > > | > > | > > × > >
Re: Tim May 1992 Post on Future of Cyberspace/Cryptology/Digital Money/Transnationalism
> From: tc...@netcom.com (Timothy C. May) > Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 11:06:29 PDT > To: cypherpu...@toad.com > Subject: Some (Pseudo)Random Thoughts > Message-ID: <9210141805.aa04...@netcom2.netcom.com> > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain > > Networks are multiplying beyond > any hope of government control, prophetic words. Except the prophesy was 100% wrong =) =( > bandwidths are skyrocketing, CPUs are > putting awesome power on our desktops, > PGP is generating incredible > interest, and social trends are making the time right for crypto > anarchy. And yet, 25 years later, we are closer than ever to crypto-techno-totalitarianism. > > I look forward to hearing your views. > > > -- > .. > Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, > tc...@netcom.com | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero > 408-688-5409 | knowledge, reputations, information markets, > W.A.S.T.E.: Aptos, CA | black markets, collapse of governments. > Higher Power: 2^756839 | PGP 2.0 and MailSafe keys by arrangement. > > > >
Re: Assasination Politics - Frequently Asked Questions
On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 23:33:13 + (UTC) jim bell wrote: > > I think I've addressed this already. I've explained that I believe there > should be 'competing' AP-type organizations, some of which have rules which > prohibit what most people would label "unjustified" killing. Others, perhaps > a much smaller number of organizations, would have somewhat less (fewer??) > scruples. > (Are 'scruples' quantized? I don't think the question makes sense. It's not a matter of scruples but a matter of legtimacy. At any rate, the bottom line is that AP organizations can be libertarian or completely rogue. (or anything inbetween) > The latter could be, and I think would be, more expensive. That, and what I > believe will be a much-smaller number of people who would contribute to a > given "hit", would make it much more difficult (i.e. expensive) > Put simply, if you wanted to help kill a well-known politician, your $1 > contribution would be combined with perhaps millions of others. OTOH, if > you want to kill a hostile relative, far fewer people would contribute to > that outcome. Still, it would be perfectly possible for say, women 'betting' that their husbands wiil have an 'accident'. A woman can 'bet' $20k and then collect $100k in insurance. Net profit $80k. In other words, saying that criminal services will be more expensive is both unfounded and rather irrelavant even if it happens to be true in some cases. > > > what if jew-kristians were to put hits on drug dealers, 'pornographers', > >atheists and the like. The possibilities for abuse are endless... > > I think I've said in the past that there is nothing that makes impossible a > person simply buying a gun and ammunition, walking out the store, and > shooting the first person he sees. Is this POSSIBLE? Sure. Is it > LIKELY? No. Right. And one reason why that is not likely is because if a guy gets a gun and starts murdering people for fun, he himself would be executed rather fast. On the other hand if an AP system allows people to commit crimes with impunity, then there are more incentives to do so. > To be sure, there will still be activities that are likely to inflame some >portion of the public. At least, this is the way things happen today. Yes but today the 'public' or mob doesn't have a means to anonymously lynch people they dislike. Anyway, my speculative conclusion then is : an uncesorable market for killings could destroy the government(s) AND enable gross violations of the rights of innocent people, both at the same time. > > Jim Bell > > >
Re: Assasination Politics - Frequently Asked Questions
On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 12:19:26 -0600 John Newman wrote: > > > > On Dec 18, 2018, at 7:41 PM, jim bell wrote: > > > > " 2) wouldn't AP be used to lynch people that the mob dislikes? Say, > > black people in places with a majority of trump voters. " > > > > > > Before I had written and published the first part of my AP essay, I > > anticipated that once such a system started, it might actually be somewhat > > dangerous to be a "famous" person. (But I don't recall actually stating > > this in the essay; I need to go back and remind myself what I wrote!)At > > least, it would be far safer to be essentially unknown. And, other > > people since then have thought of the same possibility. Today, you can > > have an actor who is famous for playing villains. What happens in an > > AP-operating world, where people (including somewhat mentally-unstable > > people) think of this actor as being a 'bad guy'? > > > > One partial answer might simply be: Actors who play 'bad guys' will > > probably have to be paid more, to compensate them for their risk! But of > > course, once > > > LOL! That your thinking has only gone this deep on this particular issue, > “actors playing bad guys might be killed by the AP mob, so they will get to > demand a higher salary to pay their security retinue”, doesn’t show a whole > lot > of deep thinking or intellectual curiosity, Jim :P. I find your stories of IC > work much more interesting. > > The way AP is designed, these “juries” (comprised of who?) are not a > requirement, and there could always be multiple AP markets, some with or > without > these “juries”. Or some with wholly state-controlled “juries”. It seems that Jim didn't fully answer the question and instead sidestepped it. If something like ethereum turns out to actually be decentralized and uncensorable then we should expect an AP system in which anybody can be targeted, not just criminals. As a side note, the idea of providers of security competing on the market was first proposed in 1849 (or earlier, so that's at least 120 years ago) by libertarians like Spooner and Molinari. Libertarians want to replace the criminal organization known as government with VOLUNTARY services for protecting life liberty and property. So under a libertarian system nobody is forced to pay protection and protection agencies are bound by libertarian law. Jim the added : > Not that it would be impossible to have a less-ethical AP organization > appear, and accept 'predictions' on just about anyone, including myself. But > I think the cost would be much higher. I see no reason why the cost should always be higher. I asked what would happen if racists decided to target people they didn't like. I don't think your answer made much sense. Your example about an actor being targeted for the roles he plays seems rather absurd. Your solution for the targeted actor is almost as absurd but more importantly the solution doesn't apply to ordinary people who are targeted for no good reason. So maybe Jim you should try again? =) > > What if state-actors were to put a hit on you? And anyone else who has > publicly > avowed for or otherwise is known to support AP? That might serve as a slight > chilling concept on the whole thing. what if jew-kristians were to put hits on drug dealers, 'pornographers', atheists and the like. The possibilities for abuse are endless... > > Or maybe you’d be considered a martyr, as opposed to the victim of his own > murderous system, and the people would finally rise up and, as you say, the > government would fall :P. > > > > most or possibly all AP-organizations employ 'juries' to limit the people > > who are ultimately targeted, it should be difficult to find an AP > > organization that would accept those contracts...unless that actor truly > > was a 'bad guy'!!! > > > > Jim Bell > > > > > > > > >
Re: how to use mobile phone GPS without a SIM card?
On Fri, 21 Dec 2018 18:06:36 +1100 Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > Any ideas why GPS would require a SIM card? it's because amont the millions of lines of malware known as "androido" there's one that says : if (no_sim()) disable_gps();
Re: Last letter from Tim May
On Thu, 20 Dec 2018 19:55:57 -0500 bbrewer wrote: > Does anyone else want to see the “30 pages of sprawl” version? Any leads? I certainly do. I've been wondering if some bits in the coindesk piece are outright fake. "He/she/they debated aspects of how a digital currency might work..." "She/he/it even acknowledged this...' using PC bullshit "she" for satoshi doesn't sound like Tim May. > > Context is key in so much; Their original put into context, isn’t near 30 > pages. Figure of speech? > > No? What was omitted? How was this framed? Etc, Etc yep
Re: Cryptocurrency: BCH puts UTXO Set on IPFS, OpenSwap Atomic DEX, The 51%
On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 14:35:02 -0500 grarpamp wrote: > Cryptocurrency world realizing entire > blockchain history is not really needed... > it isn't? So how do you verify supply? actually I should have asked - how do you know you have a valid utxo set? The whole point of downloading and validating a chain is to get a valid utxo set. Getting 'some' utxo set from some 'trusted' source iskinda ridiculous and not exactly a 'groundbreaking' 'innovation'.
Re: Cryptocurrency: BCH puts UTXO Set on IPFS, OpenSwap Atomic DEX, The 51%
On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 14:35:02 -0500 grarpamp wrote: > Cryptocurrency world realizing entire > blockchain history is not really needed... it isn't? So how do you verify supply?
Assasination Politics - Frequently Asked Questions
I think the question/answer format could be useful here to highlight the more serious 'issues' with AP and the overall workings of the system. So off the top of my head, here are two questions: 1) wouldn't the rich and powerful use AP against honest people? 2) wouldn't AP be used to lynch people that the mob dislikes? Say, black people in places with a majority of trump voters. (feel free to rephrase my questions in proper english =P )
Re: BCH finally hit the fan
On Mon, 17 Dec 2018 19:58:38 + (UTC) jim bell wrote, replying to gmkarl > And what speech occurs can > probably be made anonymous. How would "the rich" target their "enemies" if > they cannot identify them? > Jim, you are taking anonimity for granted it seems, but in reality the current system is a surveillance state and it gets worse by the day. > > I still don't understand how you expect "the rich" to know who their enemies > are. It's hard to target what you can't identify. Except we live in a global surveillance state. > > Rather than the AP server running at one specific, hidden location, under > Augur and Ethereum, AP will run 'everywhere', potentially on hundreds of > thousands or even millions of computers. It would be pointless to try to > take thousands or even tens of thousands of computers offline. That's a good point. After all, the key property of things like bitcoin and ethereum is that they are 'permisionless' or 'censorship resistant' gmkarl >> AP itself provides a method to exercise power secretly. People with >> more money can put bigger prices on their opponents' heads. > > You keep ignoring the question: How do people know who "their enemies" > actually are? Or you keep ignoring the fact that we don't have anonimity at all. Under the current system, the government and the corporations that reason.com love so much have complete control over the communications infrastructure. The way to fix that is to overthrow govcorp...but in order to attack them using AP we need anonimity. So unless you can destroy govcorp you won't get anonimity, but you need anonimity to destroy govcorp. Seems problematic. > > That's a good reason to want to weaken governments. I think governments, at > most, should only be asked to do what must be done collectively, even where > they do that. as a side note, what you said is the standard 'justification' for complete communism or any other form of totalitarianism. Because of course the phrase "what must be done collectively" is meanignless and can cover anything and everything any particular social engineer likes.
Re: Documentary: Stateless - Anarchy Emigrates by Todd Schramke
On Mon, 17 Dec 2018 09:55:29 -0500 John Newman wrote: >Mundo Imperial Hotel Regular Price $1,715, Now Only $1,515 > > Jeff Berwick looks like a straight fucking con man to me. Check out his > website, where he sells "subscriptions" to his financial newsletter - > >https://dollarvigilante.com/subscribe/ > > The checkout page accepts credit cards and paypal - no crypto currencies > accepted to pay for this supposed crypto-currency newsletter :P haha, 'priceless' =P as to berwick being a con man... berwick was a salesman for doug casey, selling land that casey got from his political accomplices in salta, argentina. Mind you, this is the casey who pretends to be a 'government hating' 'narcho capitalist' - well he hates the govt except when the politicians are his best friends. then berwick was involved in selling citizenship/passports from paraguay - that didn't end well I think. https://globalwealthprotection.com/second-passport-paraguay-good-true/ berwick was also the main pusher in a 'libertarian' project in chile that ended up in outright fraud. https://galtsgulchchile.com/jeff-berwick-exposed/ ...so berwick's commercial reputation isn't exactly impressive. > > > > > > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > > On Sunday, December 16, 2018 9:24 PM, juan wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 13:39:36 -0500 > > > grarpamp grarp...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > > > Tickets for Anarchapulco 2019: https://anarchapulco.com/ > > > > > > LMAO > > > > > > 545 dollars to listen to a bunch of right wing assholes, many of whom are > > > the 'leaders' of the americunt fake libertarian movement. > > > > > > wrong paul? motherfucker scumbag jeffrey tucker? napolitano? fucking > > > asshole casey, accomplice of argie politicians? berwick, 'ex' salesman > > > for casey scams, and 'entrepreneur' selling his own scam in chile? et > > > cetera, et cetera. > > > > > > 'anarchapulco' tickets are 600 bucks but the involuntary self parody is > > > priceless =) > > > > >
Last letter from Tim May
CoinDesk asked cypherpunk legend Timothy May, author of the “Crypto Anarchist Manifesto,” to write his thoughts on the bitcoin white paper on its 10th anniversary. https://www.coindesk.com/enough-with-the-ico-me-so-horny-get-rich-quick-lambo-crypto
Re: BCH finally hit the fan
On Mon, 17 Dec 2018 06:16:51 + (UTC) jim bell wrote: > On Friday, December 14, 2018, 2:20:10 PM PST, juan > wrote: > > > On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 16:24:10 -0500 > John Newman wrote: > > > >> I'm cynical - about AP, about humanity, about the chances of ever > >> divesting ourself of what seems to be the plotted destination for > >> civilization: dystopia for the masses. > > > Don't worry! There will be no dystopia for the masses because there will > >be no masses. Once the ruling class has enough 'artificially inteligent' > >robots at their disposal they will get rid of the human robots, who are > >clearly a potential threat. > > > This sounds like a variant on the Terminator series of movies. It does - I don't claim any originality =) So, in the terminator series people create 'autonomous' machines and then the machines decide to get rid of the human race. More or less the same scenario is discussed here and not as pure fiction : "Why the Future Doesn't Need Us" https://www.wired.com/2000/04/joy-2/ by bill joy, (co)founder of sun microsystems. I think the stories about out-of-control machines are really dumb. They are a transparent piece of diversion and propaganda. People like bill joy, who play the 'good' cop, and the vast majority of technocrats who don't even pretend to be good, came up with this silly idea that "the machines are to blame" to try to hide the fact that "the machines" are just the tools they are using to serve their own political ends. And tools are not moral agents. The people who use the tools are. IF you read the bill joy article linked above you will notice that the best part of it was NOT written by joy "On the other hand it is possible that human control over the machines may be retained. In that case the average man may have control over certain private machines of his own, such as his car or his personal computer, but control over large systems of machines will be in the hands of a tiny elite—just as it is today, but with two differences. Due to improved techniques the elite will have greater control over the masses; and because human work will no longer be necessary the masses will be superfluous, a useless burden on the system. If the elite is ruthless they may simply decide to exterminate the mass of humanity. If they are humane they may use propaganda or other psychological or biological techniques to reduce the birth rate until the mass of humanity becomes extinct, leaving the world to the elite. Or, if the elite consists of soft-hearted liberals, they may decide to play the role of good shepherds to the rest of the human race. They will see to it that everyone's physical needs are satisfied, that all children are raised under psychologically hygienic conditions, that everyone has a wholesome hobby to keep him busy, and that anyone who may become dissatisfied undergoes "treatment" to cure his "problem." Of course, life will be so purposeless that people will have to be biologically or psychologically engineered either to remove their need for the power process or make them "sublimate" their drive for power into some harmless hobby. These engineered human beings may be happy in such a society, but they will most certainly not be free. They will have been reduced to the status of domestic animals" That's from a guy named Kaczynski. > Jim Bell > > > >
Re: Documentary: Stateless - Anarchy Emigrates by Todd Schramke
On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 13:39:36 -0500 grarpamp wrote: > > Tickets for Anarchapulco 2019: https://anarchapulco.com/ LMAO 545 dollars to listen to a bunch of right wing assholes, many of whom are the 'leaders' of the americunt fake libertarian movement. wrong paul? motherfucker scumbag jeffrey tucker? napolitano? fucking asshole casey, accomplice of argie politicians? berwick, 'ex' salesman for casey scams, and 'entrepreneur' selling his own scam in chile? et cetera, et cetera. 'anarchapulco' tickets are 600 bucks but the involuntary self parody is priceless =)
Re: BCH finally hit the fan
On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 16:24:10 -0500 John Newman wrote: > > I'm cynical - about AP, about humanity, about the chances of ever > divesting ourself of what seems to be the plotted destination for > civilization: dystopia for the masses. Don't worry! There will be no dystopia for the masses because there will be no masses. Once the ruling class has enough 'artificially inteligent' robots at their disposal they will get rid of the human robots, who are clearly a potential threat. That is exactly the destination that 'society' is 'progressing' to and it's quite rich that 'techno optimists' cheer for it on 'libertarian' grounds.
Assange on WikiLeaks, Bradley Manning, Cypherpunks, Surveillance State
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbYMFUjK6fI Published on Nov 29, 2012 - 14,505 views
Re: 14 “Whites” arrested in Columbia - child sex trafficking ring busted - [PEACE]
On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 08:42:03 +1100 Zenaan Harkness wrote: > Few more o' these and we might say the swamp is being drained: > > https://www.timesofisrael.com/14-israelis-suspected-of-running-child-sex-trafficking-ring-in-colombia/ > LMAO at your retarded feminazi propaganda.
Re: Quantum Gap
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 19:43:51 + (UTC) jim bell wrote: > While I generally like the way society and technology is progressing, Do you mind elaborating on the direction/destination you think that 'society' is 'prgoressing'(moving?) to?
AP was Re: BCH finally hit the fan
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 13:31:38 + Karl wrote: > Came up with a counterargument: > > The rich few already control the many perhaps via lobbying, bribing, > black markets, the rich and the government akready have vast powers. The thieving oligarchy also know as 'the rich' don't really operate on black markets, black markets being somewhat more honest that the 'free', completely rigged, mainstream market. > but AP makes the process transparent, resulting in an > environment that is actually safer than before. AP only makes sense if it allows ordinary people to kill government-corporate criminals. However if AP can be used against innocent people, then it obviously becomes more problematic... > > Karl >
AP was Re: BCH finally hit the fan
On Sun, 09 Dec 2018 23:23:05 + furrier wrote: > I watched you live both in Acapulco and Prague. I don't agree with you > and I don't understand how can people be so naive to think that AP > can actually work. I am against the whole idea, it's the same thing as > cracking down on cryptocurrency or dark markets to fight terrorism. I think killing trump, the 'ceos'/owners of amazon, apple, google, facebook, goldman sachs, military 'leaders' and other politicians would have a very healthy effect on 'society'. Besides, killing those animals is simply an act of justice. The problem with AP is of course how to implement it. Given the fast progress towards a complete, global, police-surveillance state where every person is tracked in realtime (see radar satelites for instance) the chances of ever implementing AP seem minimal though. > If you want to fight terrorism, build a society where terrorism is mute. > Similar, if you want to fight politicians, build a society where politics are > either mute or they don't affect our lives so much. Well, killing them is one way to reduce their influence =) Wake up people! > > Anyway, to stay on-topic, FUCK BCH > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Saturday, December 8, 2018 7:37 PM, jim bell wrote: > > > On Saturday, December 8, 2018, 7:37:50 AM PST, John Newman > > wrote: > > > >> On Dec 7, 2018, at 12:37 PM, furrier wrote: > >> > >>> I will disagree with you here. Craig may be an idiot and > >>> the fact that he holds patents makes him dangerous but he > >>> does not have the network effect that the BCH "community" has. > >>> They are all over the place when it comes to fake > >>> libertarianism. I attended Anarchapulco last February, these > > > >>Did you get to watch Jim Bell speak ? :P > > > > My speech at Anarchapulco 2018 was punctuated by two memorable things: > > One, an audio artifact "gunshot", which they informed me that had occurred > > with at least one previous speaker as well. The second, about 5 minutes > > before my speech was intended to end, was an earthquake, maybe it was > > magnitude 7, but the epicenter was a hundred or so miles south of Acapulco, > > so it was only a mild shaking locally. > > > > Still, it was quite memorable. > > > > Jim Bell
Re: Quantum Gap
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 19:43:51 + (UTC) jim bell wrote: > While I generally like the way society and technology is progressing, one > seemingly minor exception involves the esoteric question, "How do people have > access to old movies?" Haha. Well, society is progressing towards the extermination of the human race by means of 'technology' (and I don't think that's the outcome you're hoping for) Anyway, one of the very few positive developments of the las 30 years is so called 'online piracy' (which is of course 100% cypherpunk) so people who want to watch dr strangelove can simply download this torrent https://pirateproxy.gdn/torrent/8063710/Dr.Strangelove.1964.720p.BluRay.x264.anoXmous > As I pointed out, TV stations used to play old (non-current-run) movies for > free (although with commercials) extensively. How do we watch, today, movies > like Dr. Strangelove? Is it available at the local used-DVD shop? (I > haven't looked.) > Okay, Youtube a few years ago shifted movies to a pay-model, >see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=her67M_clPc Problem is, notice that >the price for this movie is $3.99. That's pretty much the same price as all >the other old movies. Oh yes. I noticed now the NSA is charging for movies =) - And yes the prices are ridiculous. Then again, so called 'intellectual property' is an anti libertarian toxic government monopoly so no surprises there =) However, that anti libertarian monopoly can be worked around to some degree thanks to 'piracy'. Sounds artificial: While some relatively recent movies might be worth that price, I think one dollar (or less) should be the going rate for old movies from before, say, the year 2000. > I have Netflix, but they are far from being a complete stock of all old > movies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bittorrent and even better https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnutella There are apparently other, similar services. But again, I doubt whether any of them are close to having "every old movie ever made". > Jim Bell >
Re: Quantum Gap
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 18:45:36 + (UTC) jim bell wrote: > Secondly, I did in fact comment. Yes, my bad and I apologize. > See the reference above to the movie, Dr. Strangelove. > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybSzoLCCX-Y&t=94s At 4:13. Maybe you > (maybe even the large majority of you?) are just way too young to have seen > this movie. haha I wish I was way too young - Anyway, I know the movie is a classic of sorts. I think it's an anti war movie to some degree. And i even tried watching it a while back but didn't find it interesting (but maybe I should try again) > Sorry that you didn't get the joke. nah, I'm fully to blame =) So I guess bottom line is that current propaganda has already been ridiculed in fiction just like the current dystopian world was predicted by Huxley and Orwell. > Jim Bell > × > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: Quantum Gap
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 17:58:24 + (UTC) jim bell wrote: > "Gentlemen, we must not allow a mine-shaft gap!!!" > Dr Strangelove, movie, 1964. > > U.S. intelligence sounds the alarm on the quantum gap with China > https://news.yahoo.com/u-s-intelligence-sounds-alarm-quantum-gap-china-100017743.html > I'm really curious Jim. Why do you post US military propaganda with no comentary of your own? Every time you post US military propaganda, I think the default position is to assume that you believe it? Sorry, on second thoughts, maybe this particular message was critical given the (obscure) reference to that movie.
Re: Quantum Gap
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 17:58:24 + (UTC) jim bell wrote: > "Gentlemen, we must not allow a mine-shaft gap!!!" > Dr Strangelove, movie, 1964. > > U.S. intelligence sounds the alarm on the quantum gap with China > https://news.yahoo.com/u-s-intelligence-sounds-alarm-quantum-gap-china-100017743.html > I'm really curious Jim. Why do you post US military propaganda with no comentary of your own? Every time you post US military propaganda, I think the default position is to assume that you believe it?
Re: Assange Journalism
On Sat, 8 Dec 2018 19:26:46 -0500 Steve Kinney wrote: > > > On 12/8/18 3:41 PM, juan wrote: > > On Sat, 8 Dec 2018 13:44:22 -0500 > > Steve Kinney wrote: > > >> Greenwald distributed the PRISM documents to several press outlets, at > >> least one of which edited them before release per side by side > >> comparison of published versions. (Or, more than one version was > >> distributed by Greenwald for whatever reason.) > >> > >> So it seems likely that Snowden got his information about how and where > >> the documents were forwarded to news outlets from Greenwald himself. > > > > I didn't see evidence for that. > > Because Snowden's tale includes how he failed to find a journalist, any > journalist, who was interested in his materials /and/ capable of > communicating via an encrypted channel. Yes but that doesn't add up. > So he had to settle for film > maker Poitras, and attorney & partisan political talking head Greenwald > - just because Poitras was willing/able to use TOR and/or GPG. The story I remember is that he wanted to contact greenwald and that greenwald was too retarded to know how to use pgpg. > > Before delivering docs to Greenwald, nobody in the news biz would talk > to Snowden, at least not on his terms. After, he had no opportunity to > do any more handoffs. > > Snowden's tale of how "journalists" should decide what to release > strikes me as a cover story, explaining away his failure to send the > docs to Wikileaks by 'failure' you mean he just didn't want to send them to wikileaks because wilileaks would actually publish the stuff? I guess in the end it doesn't matter if he gave the docs only to greenwald or to a couple more journos. But granted, if only greenwald got them in the first place then yes, that's even more suspect. > and have done with them, vs. throwing away his entire > life, more or less, via contrived-looking cloak and dagger bullshit. > You mean he could have leaked the docs without being detected? Maybe, I guess. > :o/ > > > >
Re: Are You Ready for the 'Inevitable' Clampdown on Tech and the Media? - shared from Reason.com
On Sat, 8 Dec 2018 21:37:07 + (UTC) jim bell wrote: > If you are asking whether America has a "free market", I think the answer is > obvious: "No". Does it NEED a "free market". My answer is, "Yes". Will > it get a "free market", at least by listening to Tim Cook? My answer, "No.". Agreed. > As for the comment, "Apple's CEO Tim Cook says "the free market is not > working,"", my answer is: The "free market isn't being tried", or "the free > market isn't being allowed". That is true as well. > And, to the extent that Tim Cook is implying that "the free market" is > failing, yes, he is clearly a biased fool. No, he's not a biased fool. He is a self-serving liar. And not an ordinary liar either but a very high ranking criminal in the US government-corporate hiearchy. I would describe him as anything but a fool. > I think it is most commonly true that when some market in America is claimed > to fail (and possibly the world) that is because it ISN'T a "free market". > Generally, as markets become more free, they become more successful. you would have to define 'successful' - As a libertarian I of course don't care about markets being 'succesful' anyway. The only thing that matters is people being free. > But, generally, I like Reason magazine. I don't know about your criticism of > this specific author, however. Can you cite an article with which you > disagree? Did you read my message? My previous message was about pointing out that gillespie and reason magazine are anti-free-market corporatist shills. If crapple and the rest of the silicon mafia isn't the result of the free market then gillespie has to admit either 1) that the obscene profits of crapple and co. are ilegitimate 2) or go the randroid nutcase route and describe them as "poor oppressed minorities" and further conclude than in a 'real' free market crapple would be an even bigger toxic monopoly. Of course gillespie would never admit 1) so... Do you want me to analyze gillespie's fascist propaganda paragraph by paragraph? I though that's something you would do since you linked the article in the first place =) > Jim Bell > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: Assange Journalism
On Sat, 8 Dec 2018 13:44:22 -0500 Steve Kinney wrote: > > > On 12/7/18 11:53 PM, juan wrote: > > > > To Steve K. > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUhFf6K-SU8 > > > > minute 55:10 snowden says that the jew york times, der spiegel, > > washington post and the intercept all have many unpublished documents from > > his 'stash'(not sure if that's the word he uses) > > > > anyway, at this point nothing of what snowden says is 100% to be > > trusted, but at any rate that matches what I remembered about the documents > > being sort of 'distributed'among a bunch of journo scumbags. For what > > it's worth. > > I recall Snowden saying that he gave all the documents he had to > Greenwald, explaining that he did not consider himself qualified to > determine yes, the bit about snowden kowtowing to the enlightened authority of journos is something he constantly parrots. As to who originally got the documents, I'm not sure, but in that video snowden says that other people apart from greenwald have them now. I don't think that makes much of a difference either way, except perhaps to illustrate the kinda obvious fact that the 'mainstream media' are part of any conspiracy there may be. > which were of "legitimate" public interest, or where to send > them for publication. > > Greenwald distributed the PRISM documents to several press outlets, at > least one of which edited them before release per side by side > comparison of published versions. (Or, more than one version was > distributed by Greenwald for whatever reason.) > > So it seems likely that Snowden got his information about how and where > the documents were forwarded to news outlets from Greenwald himself. I didn't see evidence for that. > Given The Intercept's track record, I know that Greenwald can not be > trusted (check how The Intercept deliberately burned Reality Winner), 'burning' that murderous cunt is the only good thing the intercept ever did. Regardless, I don't think that would be the main evidence of greenwald being completely untrustworthy. What actually gives greenwald's game away is the fact that the intercept is nothing but a mouthpiece for the worst factions of the 'democratic' party. > and his changing stories early in the Snowden Affair indicate either > incompetence or lies. > > This leaves us to speculate about what documents were sent where, based > on information filtered through one (Greenwald > Public) or two > (Greenwald > Snowden > Public) unreliable sources. Well, if we are going to speculate (which is kinda pointless I guess), then snowden's sayings should be taken into account? Anyway, if judged by its results the Snowden Affair is pretty much a farce played while the US govcorp (hello reason.com!) continues on its glorious march to world enslavement. > > :o/ > > >
Re: Are You Ready for the 'Inevitable' Clampdown on Tech and the Media? - shared from Reason.com
On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 19:03:42 -0800 Kurt Buff wrote: > On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 4:04 PM jim bell wrote: > > > > https://reason.com/r/1wOM When Apple's CEO Tim Cook says "the free market > > is not working," bad things are coming. > > Anyone with half a brain and a thought to look has long ago figured > out that Tim Cook is a technocrat who wouldn't know a free market if > it jumped up and down on his bunions. the leader of the crapple mafia (CAPPL), sir cook, understands pretty well what a free market is BECAUSE his business bodel is wholly based on subverting the free market and preventing it from ever existing. That's just as true regarding bezos, thiel and all the rest of sillicon valley mafiosi and NSA agents. As to the bag of shit gillespie, author of that little propaganda piece, he is even more anti free market than cook. The only 'funny' thing about the article is seeing how treason magazine is more corporatist than its corporatist masters. There are for instance articles from scumbag gillespie whining because facebook doesn't censor 'enough' people. Funnily enough the people who don't have the slightest clue about the nature of a real free market is the vast majority of self described 'libertarians'. And the complete cluelessness of these 'libertarians' is perfectly illustrasted by the ayn randroid slogan "America's Persecuted Minority: Big Business" > Kurt So Kurt, what do you think about America's Big Business and Reason Magazine? Same question for Jim Bell.
Re: Assange Journalism
To Steve K. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUhFf6K-SU8 minute 55:10 snowden says that the jew york times, der spiegel, washington post and the intercept all have many unpublished documents from his 'stash'(not sure if that's the word he uses) anyway, at this point nothing of what snowden says is 100% to be trusted, but at any rate that matches what I remembered about the documents being sort of 'distributed'among a bunch of journo scumbags. For what it's worth.
Re: Are You Ready for the 'Inevitable' Clampdown on Tech and the Media? - shared from Reason.com
On Sat, 8 Dec 2018 00:04:25 + (UTC) jim bell wrote: > https://reason.com/r/1wOM When Apple's CEO Tim Cook says "the free market is > not working," bad things are coming. > Jim, do you mind explaining what that gillespie guy is talking about? When gillespie says the 'free market' - what is he talking about? His 'article' is kinda confusing. Have big fascist corporations like facebook, apple, amazon and all the rest become big because of how amazing they are and how well they serve the 'free market' ? But wait, gillespie says "tech industry and the larger economy (both of which are already pretty heavily regulated, if we're being honest)" So...the fascist companies he loves so much don't really exist in a 'free market' and so are not a product of the 'free market' eh? Furthermore, the mafiosi who run those companies approve of regulation - and they are the ones who created the companies, so why is gillespie trying to teach them...anything? Maybe there's something wrong with treason magazine and their understanding of the 'free market'? What do you think Jim?
Re: Scientific American: Is the U.S. Lagging in the Quest for Quantum Computing?
On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 18:09:56 -0500 Steve Kinney wrote: > In addition to breaking PKI ciphers, except there (supposedly) are quantum resistant algos https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lattice-based_cryptography
Re: snowden and the billionaire monkeys on our back
On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 16:45:40 -0500 John Newman wrote: > > > > > https://www.truthdig.com/articles/silicon-billionaires-are-the-lethal-monkey-on-the-back-of-the-american-public/ > > > > > > is there a snowden video in that page? If so can I have a direct link? > > =) Thanks! > > No video in the truthdig article that I saw, no. I'd be curious to see > it too :) Oh damn. i guess I'll have to read the article then and get some second hand info. Anyway, here's a kinda recent and somewhat interesting video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUhFf6K-SU8 "Edward Snowden Interview with Peter Van Valkenburgh of Coin Center | Blockstack Berlin 2018 " Snowden makes a weird comment about tor, complaining it's slow. Comment seems rather weird to me because it should be obvious to somebody like snowden that the 'faster' tor is, the easier it is to track. He also says, IIRC, that he transferred his famous docs to greenwald by means of an 'anonymous' server 'perhaps' paid with bitcoin. > > I did a very quick search - it was the 2015 Summit of the Sea, there's a > pretty crass article I found here - > > https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3328277/Silicon-Valley-sea-Titans-tech-pay-10-000-party-networking-cruise-offers-sunrise-yoga-world-class-cuisine-live-talk-Edward-Snowden-no-Wi-Fi.html > Thanks. Such a cruise looks like a very nice target. Perhaps the passengers could all 'accidentally' eat some poisoned food or something... > And no doubt more shit about it online, maybe a video of the Snowden > talk somewhere... if you find it, send me a link. > >
Re: Scientific American: Is the U.S. Lagging in the Quest for Quantum Computing?
On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 17:55:01 + (UTC) jim bell wrote: > Scientific American: Is the U.S. Lagging in the Quest for Quantum Computing?. > https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-the-u-s-lagging-in-the-quest-for-quantum-computing/ pure and undiluted pentagon propaganda ^^ just like anything coming from the 'mainstream media' translation : the US military wants MORE MONEY for 'R&D' into the complete enslavement of the human race.
Re: snowden and the billionaire monkeys on our back
On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 21:17:12 +1100 Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Wed, Dec 05, 2018 at 07:47:55PM -0500, Steve Kinney wrote: > > > > > > On 12/5/18 3:20 PM, John Newman wrote: > > > > > > Long interview with guy who just wrote a book about faux-philanthropic > > > leaders of the new gilded age (or something ;) > > > > > > https://www.truthdig.com/articles/silicon-billionaires-are-the-lethal-monkey-on-the-back-of-the-american-public/ is there a snowden video in that page? If so can I have a direct link? =) Thanks!
Re: Seasteading: Anarchy on the High Seas
On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 01:06:34 -0500 grarpamp wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF0iOe6n5T4 more utter garbage. I encourage people to research the topic "fake libertarianism" in this case think about what a project 'founded' by a supreme piece of shit, arch criminal and NSA CONTRACTOR like peter thiel can be. https://www.seasteading.org/about/staff-board-advisors/ "Seasteading Institute--- founded in 2008 ---by Peter Thiel." and as far as highly retarded 'projects' go, 'seasteading' is at the top of the list. Unless the aim is to set up practice targets for the US navy. then again, what else can you expect from assholes like the friedmans and the NSA, except some 'progressive' irrelvant bullshit whose only value is self-parody and diversion.
Re: Cryptocurrency: Right to Secede w Tucker - fake libertarians.
On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 19:32:27 -0500 grarpamp wrote: > > https://mises.org/library/movie-gets-it-right > > > > "Who are the capitalist folk heroes of our time? The Social Network is a > > film that celebrates one of the greats, Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg." > > Facebook, Zuckerberg... what scam? You bought that? Lol. me? certainly not. But pentagon agent and catholic scum tucker, whom you are promoting, is selling "that". Also, you should do some research on clown berwick as well... Did I mention FAKE LIBERTARIANS? You should look into that too =) > > > about... > > So many shitcoin TV's... so what were you saying about BCH(bcrash), roger ver and the TRUE SATOCHI CRYPTOPUNK craigh wright? =)
Re: Cryptocurrency: Right to Secede w Tucker and Epstein, Crypto Infiltrated and Forked
On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 17:40:49 -0500 grarpamp wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UezQ7Wpt1ns grarpamp, it doesn't sound as if you have the faintest clue regarding who that piece of scum tucker is here's some basic information for you - look at this fascist vomit from tucker. https://mises.org/library/movie-gets-it-right "Who are the capitalist folk heroes of our time? The Social Network is a film that celebrates one of the greats, Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg." So it's a self-evident truth that tucker is just a 'narcho' fascist bot, and he's a 'narcho' catholic to boot. He's clearly as far as it's possible to be from any sort of libertarian philosophy. grarpamp, you should research fake libertarians (like tucker) - they are very nasty and dangerous. > https://old.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/a2yepq/first_blockstream_infiltrated_and_split_bitcoin/ tell us about roger ver and roger ver's 'ex' friend/accomplice, the widely known fraudster craig wright? Tell us about their 'hash war', the apparent fact that their hash war lead to ~40% crash in BTC price and 75% crash in his own 'altcoin' known as BCH, bcash, or better, bcrash. So again, you should research fake libertarians to appreciate the irony of a piece of scum like tucker babbling about 'infiltrating' anything.
Re: ROTF! Cloudflare CEO: “I woke up this morning in a bad mood and decided to kick them (DailyStr0mer) off the Internet.”
On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 14:09:39 +0100 Kd M wrote: > this mailing list has turned into total trash. you are free to post something of value by the way, this video is pretty good > > SIX MILLION JEWS 1915-1938 HD > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dda-0Q_XUhk
Re: BCH finally hit the fan
On Sun, 02 Dec 2018 23:25:52 + furrier wrote: > FYI I don't give a flying fuck about BSV and I consider > Faketoshi an idiot and dangerous scammer but I really > enjoyed this guy's breakdown of the BCH problems that > were made apparent after the split. Instead of making > assumptions, you could just ask. > > My mistake, I apologize then. However, the article is unimpressive because the author tries to present himself as "politically unbiased" while in reality he's a partisan for the worst bitcoin faction, that of wright. All 3 bitcoin factions are less than ideal but wright's is by far the worst.
Re: BCH finally hit the fan
On Sun, 02 Dec 2018 20:05:44 + furrier wrote: > https://medium.com/@_unwriter/the-resolution-of-the-bitcoin-cash-experiment-52b86d8cd187 > > Libertardians enjoying their scammy experiment LMAO! The guy who wrote that article is an 'ex' bcrash supporter who is crying because bcrash is 'now' centralized. Except, bcrash was centralized from day zero so the author is a lying asshole. Unsurprisingly the author is a typical fake libertarian, true fascist babbling about 'economics' and showing his true colors here 'Google didn’t need to be friends with Tim Berners Lee, neither did Facebook. They just built something valuable. And people came" What kind of anti libertarian asshole would say that sort of thing? And there's more : "The United States of America demonstrated how a new economic superpower can be born from an implementation of capitalism" But wait, here's the bottom line "Bitcoin SV is the Real Bitcoin" YES that retarded scam from the scamming fucktard craig wright who is the REAL SATOSHI, except, he doesn't know how to sign a message with his 'private' 'bitcoin' keys hi hi hi. furrier is some faketoshi bot. Hi there!
Re: ZDNet: ACLU wants court to release documents on the US' attempt at backdooring Facebook Messenger
On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 18:22:51 + (UTC) jim bell wrote: > ZDNet: ACLU wants court to release documents on the US' attempt at > backdooring Facebook Messenger. > https://www.zdnet.com/article/aclu-wants-court-to-release-documents-on-the-us-attempt-at-backdooring-facebook-messenger/ > LMAO at so much bullshit in one little article. First, the word 'attempt' is fraudulentely used to 'suggest' that facebook isn't already 'backdoored'. "The FBI wanted to wiretap the voice communications of suspected members of MS-13, a notorious criminal gang " who use facebook for their 'criminal' communications, right. That makes so much sense. "The FBI said they already had text messages" Oh, OK. The text messages they got through facebook's 'backdoor' "This is the second time that the US government has tried to force a tech company to create an encryption backdoor " sure sure. All the rest of companies voluntarily hand all the keys. "But while the FBI vs. Apple legal case played out in public," well by necesity the laughable propaganda/marketing operation from apple and fukerberg have to be 'public' - what would be the point of 'secret' propaganda. But what kind of hopeless retard can believe that the REAL deals between crapple and US nazi govt are 'public'.
Re: G20 in Argentina
On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 00:21:41 -0500 grarpamp wrote: > https://www.clarin.com/politica/anahi-salcedo-anarquista-herida-recoleta-sigue-coma-inducido-respirador_0_20_-jN4oP.html the story is typically argentine...that is, pretty much a farce. Instead of trying to blow up some living politician the woman tried to blow the tomb of a cop* who died 100 years ago, failed, and instead blew herself up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sim%C3%B3n_Radowitzky > https://tn.com.ar/policiales/anahi-esperanza-salcedo-del-pasado-de-su-familia-en-montoneros-la-bomba-casera-en-la-recoleta_916824 > https://www.infobae.com/sociedad/policiales/2018/11/15/la-vida-de-la-anarquista-que-detono-la-bomba-en-el-cementerio-hace-seis-meses-hubo-una-explosion-en-su-casa/
The Completion of Humanity Project
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6wtDPVkKqI 人類補完計画 じんるい ほかん けいかく for some reason translated as Human Instrumentality Project
Re: 1984! US Senate Launches Forfeiture and Crypto / Cash / Assets / Prepaid War
On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 10:12:21 +1100 Zenaan Harkness wrote: > $4.5 billion per year in unaccountable seizure of cars, houses, boats > etc, with no due process, no judicial oversight. > > And that's just USA. > Actually that sort of outright highway robbery is mostly if not exclusively an americunt thing.
Re: Assange Journalism
On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 03:01:03 -0500 Steve Kinney wrote: > Intimately related, from Julian Assange - > also hosted by JYA: > > https://cryptome.org/0002/ja-conspiracies.pdf the "Conspiracy as Governance" article is unfinished?
Re: Assange Journalism
On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 19:37:59 -0500 Steve Kinney wrote: > If we ask what specific domestic surveillance activities had already > caused the most controversy, and had the biggest potential for blowback > if exposed to full public view, "the first two Snowden releases" > provides a pretty good answer: Bulk surveillance of U.S. telephone and > Internet traffic. bulk surveillance of internet traffic wasn't news https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A as to phones... https://www.wired.com/2007/08/wiretap/ "The FBI has quietly built a sophisticated, point-and-click surveillance system that performs instant wiretaps on almost any communications device" that's from 2007... this is before snowden too https://www.wired.com/2012/03/ff-nsadatacenter/ "The NSA Is Building the Country's Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say)" so, arguably, snowden's 'revelations' didn't reveal anything that wasn't already known or trivially suspected... > > Programs that large will eventually become public knowledge. more like, they had been public knowledge for years... > > During and after the initial releases from the Snowden Saga, the > intelligence community won nearly every battle over who can break what > laws, when, etc. without consequences. yes, but that's not "because of snowden" is it? I mean, not meaning to sound like a broken record but the US is a fascist cesspool and has always been. "COINTELPRO" the 'intelligence community' which is obviously just an arm of the United Rogue States gets to do whatever they want because that's what being the state means - unrestrained power. > The Snowden Affair removed many > potential liabilities by establishing that "we are allowed to do this, > that and the other thing." I don't see the causal link there. There were the leaks, and then the govt kept doing whatever the fuck they want. The events may be 'correlated' but that can be all. > > >> I figure Snowden far too dumb to 'leak correctly,' but too smart not to > >> play along once he became an object of property physically passed around > >> between ruling class factions. > > > > Hmm. Snoden doesn't strike me as dumb. At least not so dumb that he was > > unable to publish stuff anonymously if he wanted. Especially considering > > that his job description was pretty much to track 'enemies of the state'. > > Available biographical information, and his extraordinary access to > numerous "sensitive compartments", indicates his job was most likely > senior IT administrator and troubleshooter at facilities handling > classified communications and databases. That's a possibility. Snowden on the other hand says he was a 'senior analyst' or something like that. > > Then again, available biographical information indicates that the guy > with the "pencil neck geek" physique volunteered for and was accepted > for training for Special Forces while before he completed Basic Training > - which does not happen. He then supposedly received a medical > discharge after breaking both legs in a training accident, which again > does not happen except where the such injuries qualify as disabling. I remembered only one broken leg =P - Regardless, I don't think the story is too implausible. And if it's made up, I'm not sure for what purpose? > > That's why I call Snowden an International Man Of Mystery rather than > any other title: Not only is he a living legend, what we can see of > that life looks like a "legend" in the sense of an intelligence > officer's fake back story related to a particular assignment. But that means snowden is still 'assigned'? > > Why did Snowden pick attorney and political commentator Glenn Greenwald > to hand his documents off to, instead of a journalist? greenawald IS a journo =P > Why not contact > John Young, Sibel Edmonds, an old timer like Daniel Ellsberg - not sure if choosing greenwald was particularly bad (at least without hindsight). Then again, snowden could and should have simply dumped everything so... > or ANYONE > with applicable knowledge and experience? Did he fail to look into the > history of leaks like the one he was considering, and available venues > for same - or was he directed to specific people spotted, recruited and > handled by the same employer who spotted, developed and handled him? > > I doubt that we will never know. > > > >> "By his own account, Snowden often discussed perceived Agency wrongdoing > >> with his co-workers, which suggests that he should have been profiled > >> and flagged as a potential leaker by the NSA’s internal surveillance > >> process." > > > > > > Maybe...not? I assume that people working in such criminal > > organizations are a 'tight knit' mafia. They don't really suspect each > > other. They are all american h
Re: Assange Journalism
On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 17:48:22 -0500 Steve Kinney wrote: > > >> > >> How was Snowden's choice of Greenwald assured, and was his life in > >> danger up to the moment he chose the right non-journalist to pass his > >> docs off to? > > > > he gave copies to different journos apart from greenwald I believe? > > If so, neither he nor anyone else has ever said so. The Snowden Saga, > if at all factual, leaves no room for that to have happened. hm I must be misremembering. - I'll search for the 'official story' later. > > >> How long did it take him to realize he had been played - > >> or has he even figured that out yet? > > > > played how? snowden constantly parrots that journos have the divine > > right to filter whatever information reaches the serfs. > > > Played how? Spotted early by the fairly massive Insider Threat programs > at NSA, initiated in response to Chelsea Manning's work. They may have > fed him specific documents, kept away from others, transferred him from > job to job as necessary to facilitate that process. He may have also > been monitored and/or manipulated through his girlfriend, who has joined > him in exile - which makes little sense, unless she had something to > hide, and/or run from, here in the U.S. well, according to snowden, his girlfriend moved to russia because "she loves him". That claim can be doubted on purely human grounds, but it can also be taken at face value without assuming that his girlfriend is an agent or somesuch. Maybe she has enough moral integrity to choose snowden over life in good old amerikkka. Anyway, yes, what you describe is materially possible, so I should have asked "played, why?". What would the 'leaders' of the NSA gain by having snowden leak some stuff they previously selected/curated? Obviously they would not allow the leak of anything 'really top secret'. And coincidentally snowden's stuff simply confirmed what people with half a brain suspected. Massive surveillance. Wait, not even suspected but knew about it before snowden (like ATT fiber taps) One scenario I can think off the top of my head is that they allowed snowden to get hold of some not-really-secret stuff to justify 'tighter security' inside the NSA? But as a bigger political game, I'm not sure what their motives could be. But more below. > > I figure Snowden far too dumb to 'leak correctly,' but too smart not to > play along once he became an object of property physically passed around > between ruling class factions. Hmm. Snoden doesn't strike me as dumb. At least not so dumb that he was unable to publish stuff anonymously if he wanted. Especially considering that his job description was pretty much to track 'enemies of the state'. > > >> A funny thing happened to the allegedly thousands of documents Ed handed > >> to Glenn for publication: After promising Snowden he would release all > >> the docs within ten days of breaking the first big story, > > > > > > did he promise that? That doesn't sound realistic given the fact that > > snowden supports censorship-by-journo. > > So at least one article published within days of the Prism release said. > Over the next week the reported number of documents given to Greenwald > rose very fast, as Greenwald's story changed. I kept very close track > of available information during that time frame; this article I wrote > back then be of some historical interest: > > http://www.globalresearch.ca/nsa-deception-operation-questions-surround-leaked-prism-documents-authenticity well the fact that google, facebook and all the rest of 'silicon valley' scum are just spies on the payroll of uncle sam isn't controversial, and that's what the prism slides illustrated, regardless of them being 'authentic top-secret' or some watered down version for people with a 'lower clearence' or whatever the pertinent jargon is. so although I agree that the snowden stuff isn't really 'top secret' that doesn't mean it's fake - it's quite possible that snowden himself chose stuff that didn't really 'harm' his bosses since he believes the american nazi state is a legitimate murdering organization and american 'national security' a legitimate aim, etc. > > > "By his own account, Snowden often discussed perceived Agency wrongdoing > with his co-workers, which suggests that he should have been profiled > and flagged as a potential leaker by the NSA’s internal surveillance > process." Maybe...not? I assume that people working in such criminal organizations are a 'tight knit' mafia. They don't really suspect each other. They are all american heroes fulliling their divine role : making the world safe for goldman sachs and raytheon. Also, if somebody inside the NSA says "we must protect the Privacy of Americans", he can't be 'flagged' based on that, because that sort of bullshit is basi
Re: Assange Journalism
On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 00:01:39 -0500 Steve Kinney wrote: > I'm about two nines confident that Greenwald's Intercept deliberately > burned Reality Winner. if they did, that's one of the very few things they deserve credit for. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality_Winner "the cunt was awarded the Air Force Commendation Medal for "aiding in 650 enemy captures, 600 enemies killed in action and identifying 900 high[-]value targets"." do you understand what that means no? How are you proposing that the cunt pay for her crimes? > > Speaking of Greenwald, he and snowden remain loyal to the US govt. > how about the hatchet job his partner in crime, > Laura Poitras, did on both IO Error and Mendax in her Risk film? Random > spiteful bitch, or faithful CIA asset? Either way, fat USIC paycheck > and/or mega-cred in toxic pseudo-feminist circles accomplished. pseudo-feminist? Not at all. They all are true feminists and they all are feminazis. Those two words are synonymous. > > How was Snowden's choice of Greenwald assured, and was his life in > danger up to the moment he chose the right non-journalist to pass his > docs off to? he gave copies to different journos apart from greenwald I believe? > How long did it take him to realize he had been played - > or has he even figured that out yet? played how? snowden constantly parrots that journos have the divine right to filter whatever information reaches the serfs. > To date his public presentation in > exile remains consistent with making the best of that particular bad > situation. > > A funny thing happened to the allegedly thousands of documents Ed handed > to Glenn for publication: After promising Snowden he would release all > the docs within ten days of breaking the first big story, did he promise that? That doesn't sound realistic given the fact that snowden supports censorship-by-journo. > Glenn sold > them all to the highest bidder, Pierre Omidyar. If Greenwald's claims > about how many docs there were are to be believed, over 99% were either > destroyed, or locked up securely for blackmail use by his new employer. well no doubt greenwald is a sellout, and no doubt his employer ebay-paypal has been working for the NSA since day one. As a funny side note, NSA contractor ebay is 3 years older than google. Regardless, I believe/would assume that snowden gave the docs to different redundant parties because 'trusting' a single guy like greenwald is pretty stupid, and snowden is anything but stupid. > All I know for sure about the Snoweden Affair is that once the dust > settled, the U.S. intelligence community got everything it wanted: yeah. Not sure if snowden contributed to that or it's just that his leak was useless in the grand scheme of things. > Not > just authorization to continue illegal domestic surveillance programs, > but a clear precedent that U.S. intelligence officials are allowed to > tell lies under oath in Congressional hearings, with no consequences > other than high-fives back at the office later. "Almost as if" the USIC > had lots of advance warning and got to pick the specific battles > themselves, with specific purposes in mind. True - that is a possible and lilely scenario. > > A suggested leaker's protocol: Pardon my language but "fuck > journalists." indeed >They need have no role until /after/ all your red hot > docs are in the public domain. > > 1) Use an extraordinary physical security protocol to upload an > encrypted archive of your docs to the I2P torrent network. Clues: You > need a "clean" laptop from a flea market, a home made high gain antenna, > and a conveniently located open WiFi hot spot. Don't forget to scramble > your MAC address before plugging in the antenna. Include one or more > "medium value" docs in the clear, to assure interest in your uploaded > archive. In your description of the torrent, promise the key will be > published under the same user name within a given time frame. > > 2) A few days later, use the same security protocol, from a location at > least hundreds of miles away from your first upload site, to post the > key (a pass phrase, see diceware.com) on the same torrent tracker site > in I2P space. Not sure what the point of publishing the key later is, especially if you first published some stuff in the clear? When you publish stuff in the clear you are marking yourself as a target? The two steps process is to avoid getting caught while uploading the bulk of the data?
Re: Assange Journalism
On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 14:06:46 -0500 John Young wrote: > Matt Taibbi reports on Assange in Rolling Stone in a one of the more > salient grasps of what journalism has missed about WikiLeaks feeding its maw. > > https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/taibbi-julian-assange-case-wikileaks-758883/ I'm going to take a look at that - and mention that rolling stone is a high ranking outlet for left-wing 'progressive' fascist propaganda. > > A noteworthy observation is how all the risk is taken by leakers not > by publishers and journalists -- nor by WikiLeaks and Assange. Seems you don't like assange which is of course fine. But considering the fact that assange has been jailed for years and is about to be lynched by the US govt, the 'observation' that he took no risks isn't exactly based on reality...
Re: HuffPost: Julian Assange Faces Federal Charges. But Let's Not Forget What We've Learned From WikiLeaks.
On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 17:52:19 -0800 Douglas Lucas wrote: > > > On 11/24/18 6:15 PM, juan wrote: > > So maybe I should rephrase to something like : Assange was morally > > obliged to publish clinton's dirty deals and by doing so he helped > > trump, who is his enemy. All in all, pretty ironic. > He could have published it all at once, yeah that actually is the only right choice, same thing for snowden. we have this New Amazin' Technology called the interwebs. Anybody can publish anything. It's weird that snowden didn't use it... > or filtered out stories > carefully with collaborating media outlets. nah. Journos aka the fourth state are the propaganda department of the enemy. Fuck them. > Either of those approaches > would have been educational. Instead, he published them so as to > "maximize impact" -- but that impact, which included holding back stuff > to publish for the weekend before the election (when nobody would have > time to audit the material), and to defend Trump after the Access > Hollywood release -- was not an educational one. I've never met a single > person who has actually read, say, Killary's speech to Wall St. or > teased out any connections between DNC donors and anyone else. The > maximized, uneducational impact was just to get commoners revved up and > screaming, like Trump, "I Love WikiLeaks" in a "git your gubment hands > off my Medicare" way. > > Look at the header here - https://twitter.com/suzi3d - the goal of Team > WikiLeaks is to maximize instances of Assange's face. > > This is what cryptobros WikiLeaks has become: > > 10 PRINT "ASSANGE" > 20 GOTO 10 I'm not sure about that. I would assume assange would happily trade any 'fame' he has for his freedom. > > With something like 10-20 years remaining to halt global warming, except 'global warming' is not real. It's just terrorist propaganda from govcorp to keep the sheep in line, have them worship 'science', justify subsidies from 'green' 'industries' etc. It would actually be great if 'global warming' was real and caused our lovely industrial anti 'civilization' to collapse, because that's pretty much the only way to stop global techno totalitarianism. > Team > WikiLeaks will be happy to run the above program until the day we all > die. They could have done so much by sharing their ample platform with > worthy causes, but that would have caused "brand confusion" and god > forbid somebody be confused. That's far too much like education.
Re: HuffPost: Julian Assange Faces Federal Charges. But Let's Not Forget What We've Learned From WikiLeaks.
On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 11:35:47 +1100 Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 03:58:06PM -0300, Juan wrote: > > On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 18:18:50 + (UTC) > > jim bell wrote: > > > > > HuffPost: Julian Assange Faces Federal Charges. But Let's Not Forget What > > > We've Learned From WikiLeaks.. > > > > so assamge helped the socialist corporatist fascist trump to gain power > > and now he's going to be lynched by his 'ally' - I kinda wonder what was > > assange thinking > > Hillary "Butcher of Lybia" Clinton and her effective 'I promise you > war against Russia' narrative probably cinched that one... which is highly stupid since the US murders brown children in 'developing' countries but would never pick a fight with a real opponent. in other words the "war with russia" propaganda was just that, propaganda. > Trump could barely have asked for a "better" opponent to run against. both hitlery and trumpo are non human scum. Actually if trumpo won that's because he must be more useful to the corporate/govt criminal class and so even worse than the clinton cunt.
Re: HuffPost: Julian Assange Faces Federal Charges. But Let's Not Forget What We've Learned From WikiLeaks.
On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 00:23:17 + (UTC)
jim bell wrote:
>
> > yeah. good news, the clinton cunt lost. Bad news, trump won.
>
> Don't blame me! Blame the MSM, the DNC, Hillary Clinton herself, and the
> corrupt government stooges who supported her.
Haha, I don't blame you - as far as I know you didn't create the
american politcal system =P
>
>
> "I must admit that at first I was dumb enough to think that if the media were
> saying that trump was horrible then he must be marginally better than
> clinton. Problem is, that partisan line of thinking is nonsense and in
> reality the US has a one party system with both candidates being exactly
> equally bad."
>
> Perhaps you forget that Trump wasn't exactly a "Republican". Until a few
> years ago, he was actually on very good terms with the Democrats.
Oh I didn't know that. Thanks for mentioning it. It nicely underscores
the underlying unity of the political establishment.
>
> It's two years later. If nothing has come out which denounces Trump, even by
> today, why would anyone think that Assange could have come out with in in,
> say, October 2016?
Maybe. Kinda hard for me to believe, but I'll assume that's the case
for now.
>
> > At any rate, it seems to be a fact that assange favored trump and it is
> a fact that trump is even worse than obomba and now assange is a direct
> target of trump's.
> "assange favored Trump" is misleading. Assange had, at most, two choices.
> If it was his goal to cause Hillary Clinton to lose, I completely welcome his
> choice.
I don't mean to emphasize his siding with trump too much. So maybe I
should rephrase to something like : Assange was morally obliged to publish
clinton's dirty deals and by doing so he helped trump, who is his enemy. All
in all, pretty ironic.
>
>
>
> The MSM can't, and didn't, control everything. Arguably, the revelation
> about her illegally-used private server (caused by years Republican inquiries
> into Benghazi) probably swung the election to Trump. But, the hugely biased
> U.S. Government tried to swing it back: Comey and his thugs pretended that
> Hillary hadn't done anything illegal. ("extremely careless" v. "gross
> negligence" on July 5, 2016.). They didn't want to use the term "gross
> negligence" because that is the trigger-term which justified prosecution
> under various statutes.
well there obviously is a double standard in the 'justice' system. The
poorer and less powerful people are, the more likely they are to be abused by
the state. And conversely, powerful people can get away with murder.
>
> > Hm. That's a bit more convoluted. Regardless, elections in the US are
> completely irrelevant.
>
> That's a position to take. Someday, you should convince the American public
> of that.
Haha, doing that seems to be somewhat outside of my capabilities =P On
the other hand roughly half the american electorate doesn't vote so they seem
to be already convinced.
>
> > I guess another way to look at it is : had hitlery won assange would have
> >been lynched. And now that the other faction of the one party won, he's
> >being lynched.
>
> That's not as clear. One of the dangers of any criminal prosecution is that
> the defendant usually gets the right to access, and release exculpatory
> material. Exculpatory to Assange arguably means incriminating to Hillary,
> Obama, and each of their criminal crews.
Assange is likely to be tried in some sort of secret court with 'sealed
evidence' because of 'national security' and bla bla?
I've heard snowden says multiple times that one of his conditions to
return to the US is access to a fair trail, which clearly he knows he won't
get.
>
> >> Arguably, the MSM (and Hillary, etc) was mostly responsible for causing
> >> Trump to win the election. Those RINOs and Deep-State actors should
> >> understand that.
> > I am not aware that Assange did anything illegal,
>
> > lol - illegal as defined by the american nazi government?
>
> Do you have any alternative opinions? Do you believe that Assange did
> anything illegal by YOUR standards?
Assange didn't attack the property or person of any individual so by
libertarian standards he didn't commit any crime or did anything 'illegal'.
I'm just pointing out that the definition of 'i/legal' that governments
use has nothing to do with any libertarian standard.
> He basically acted as a journalist.
And went against the interests of the group of criminals who call
themselves "the government". And accordign to those criminals, going against
their interests is 'illegal'.
Anyway, I wish Assange luck, but his chances of winning a 'legal'
argument against organized crime seem slim to me.
>
> Jim Bell
Re: BBC News: NovaSAR: UK radar satellite returns first images
On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 17:16:06 -0500 grarpamp wrote: > https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-45523677 > https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/spaceimages/details.php?id=PIA01721 > https://www.researchgate.net/publication/226843737_Continuing_inflation_at_Three_Sisters_volcanic_center_central_Oregon_Cascade_Range_USA_from_GPS_leveling_and_InSAR_observations > > > This particular satellite is said to have a resolution of 6 meters. > > Nobody is going to waste their money launching a pathetic 6m toy > that doesn't even match 1990s - 2001 tech. are you sure the satellites from that time had *radar* at 6 meters resolution? Weren't they just optical? > Today's rigs could surely > be expected at 60cm to commercial NDA customers, and maybe even > at 6cm yeah the 6 meter resolution figure isn't to be trusted at all but what I think is 'new' here is that this is 3D imaging radar, not ordinary photography. > > Keep in mind this was the "low cost" public facade version of > greater Beasts A Marking already been launched before, > and more to come... > > "We've done lots of work on the next generation. NovaSAR is just the > first in a family of instruments that will offer different > capabilities, such as finer resolutions and other parameters; and we > will be putting those capabilities on smaller spacecraft than > NovaSAR." > The satellite, as *presently* configured, will operate in the S-band > (3.2 gigahertz), giving a best resolution of 6m with a swath width of > 15-20km. lol, so wavelength at 3.2 gigacycles is what? Oh yes, 10cm... > Future variants will go to the higher-frequency X-band and > sense features on the ground as small as a metre across, *and less*. but it will be used to save the whales! And the children from 'sex abuse'. > > And that the article comes from the BBC, which is solely > licensed and permitted to run at the whim and criminal > tax of the self perpetuating UK Government... > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC > > The first free live public broadcast from Marconi took place in June > 1920, this public enthusiasm was not shared in official circles where > such broadcasts were held to interfere with important military > communications. Pressure from these quarters was sufficient to lead to > a ban on further free Marconi broadcasts. > > The cost of a television licence is set by the government and enforced > by the criminal law. Thus, the BBC is a major prosecuting authority in > England and Wales and an investigating authority in the UK as a whole. > The BBC carries out surveillance (mostly using subcontractors) on > properties (under the auspices of the RIPA Regulation of Investigatory > Powers Act 2000) and may conduct searches of a property using a search > warrant. > > To this day, the BBC aims to follow the directive to "inform, educate > and entertain" the Sheeple, aka "propaganda, program and distract" > > "Auntie Imperial" is right. > > > > Can't imagine "anti-freedom" applications for SAR... > > > designers specifically want to see if it can help monitor shipping activity. > > the data it provides can help crack problems from illegal shipping > > aka: Free Markets and Free Payments amongst peoples of humanity > > > much smaller pleasure craft. We can certainly see that they are there. One > > of the main objectives of NovSAR will be maritime surveillance > > Of course... with private and charter craft being the only > remaining cheap and easy way for free peoples to travel > speak and live freely together across broad waters without > being tracked, and then censored via torpedo to swim with > the fishes. > > > "It is important to be able to monitor large areas of the ocean - something > > we don't do at the moment. We all saw with the Malaysian airline crash in > > the Indian Ocean the difficulty there was in monitoring that vast area. We > > can do that kind of thing with radar and NovaSAR is good for that," > > Won't someone please think of the children. > > They trot that shit out everywhere they can, > even for a simple fucking satellite. > > The drugs, terrorists, crime... > FHOTI -- Tim May > > > Known as S1-4, this optical spacecraft will discern objects on the ground > > as small as 87cm across > > Trouble always comes in twos. > > > Here's a link mentioning a bit more about the UK's purposes... > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntkYbnokARA
Re: BBC News: NovaSAR: UK radar satellite returns first images
On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 16:26:43 -0500 Steve Kinney wrote: > NovaSAR-S makes primitive but useful LandSat functions available to > organizations working on shoestring budgets. NovaSAR-S shift the > balance of power in the electronic warfare terrain toward some > "underdog" players, LMAO - what the fuck. I candidly admit I didn't even bother checking Jim's link in the first place since I can't stomach the sort of garbage teh BBC vomits BUT now I did and here's Jim's own BBC propaganda : "Its pictures are now being assessed for use in diverse applications, including MARITIME SURVEILLANCE" "NovaSAR is seeing not only large vessels but also much smaller pleasure craft." "The satellite is equipped with a receiver that can pick up Automatic Identification System (AIS) radio signals. " Vessels that tamper with or disable these messages very often are engaged in smuggling or illegal fishing activity. If such ships appear in NovaSAR's radar pictures, they will be reported to the authorities. " Of course, exactly like I said, the purpose of the 'technology' is the further enslavement of mankind.
Re: HuffPost: Julian Assange Faces Federal Charges. But Let's Not Forget What We've Learned From WikiLeaks.
On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 21:16:43 + (UTC) jim bell wrote: > > In one sense, I was in a very similar position to Assange: I very much > wanted Hillary Clinton to lose the election. That doesn't mean that I wanted > Donald Trump to win, but in America's political duopoly, wanting the Democrat > to lose means, if that want is provided, the Republican wins. (How I wish > that were not the case!!!) yeah. good news, the clinton cunt lost. Bad news, trump won. I must admit that at first I was dumb enough to think that if the media were saying that trump was horrible then he must be marginally better than clinton. Problem is, that partisan line of thinking is nonsense and in reality the US has a one party system with both candidates being exactly equally bad. > Assange, at least, publicized a lot of negative information that arguably > caused Hillary to lose the election. Which I very much liked, of course. > Even so, Assange didn't cause Hillary or the DNC to be corrupt: They were > corrupt before Assange publicized that fact. Do you blame Assange for > exposing political corruption? No I don't. But it seems he should have done the same thing for the rethuglicans. I think he said he didn't have anything to publish regarding trump but that sounds not completely credible. At any rate, it seems to be a fact that assange favored trump and it is a fact that trump is even worse than obomba and now assange is a direct target of trump's. >I certainly don't. > Also, I frequently point out that before Trump was even nominated, the news > media itself recognized that it had given Trump $2 billion in free publicity. > > https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/16/upshot/measuring-donald-trumps-mammoth-advantage-in-free-media.html > Try google-searching for '$2 billion Trump media' to find many other > references. It wasn't 'positive' publicity, of course. Naturally, the MSM > wasn't trying to cause Trump to win the general election: yeah - or if I switch to 'paranoid mode' then who knows? As mentioned, apparently the media was against trump because trump was so anti 'liberal' anti 'progressive' bla bla, but as a matter of fact the media failed to prevent trump from being elected. So maybe they were inept or maybe they didn't try too hard... > If they were honest, they would have admitted that they were trying to get >Ted Cruz and Rand Paul to lose the nomination. Which they did. But they >hoped that Trump would lose the general. Which, due to Hillary's great >scandals, he didn't. So, I'd say that the MSM was primarily responsible for >causing Trump to win the nomination. Which they seemingly admit, or at least >admitted, before Trump won the general election. Hm. That's a bit more convoluted. Regardless, elections in the US are completely irrelevant. I guess another way to look at it is : had hitlery won assange would have been lynched. And now that the other faction of the one party won, he's being lynched. > Arguably, the MSM (and Hillary, etc) was mostly responsible for causing Trump > to win the election. Those RINOs and Deep-State actors should understand > that. > I am not aware that Assange did anything illegal, lol - illegal as defined by the american nazi government? > but he certainly did things to cause some powerful American politicians to > dislike, even hate him. Particularly in regard to the 2016 election, as far > as I know he merely accepted, and then publicized, information embarrassing > to the DNC, John Podesta, and Hillary Clinton. The news media claims that > he accepted hacked emails from Russia: I think that even if we accept the > idea that Russia hacked emails, that does not inherently prove that the > emails Assange published necessarily came from Russia, or only from Russia. yeah, the red scare, fairy tale about russia being behind assange, trump being a putin agent etc is both hilarious and retarded. And it's the sort of thing that liberal sheep believe, just like right wing retards believed that obomba was a muslim 'illegal immigrant'. >And, it also doesn't prove that Assange knew, for certain, that (even if some >of those emails came from Russia or Russian citizens) that those emails came >from Russia. > As I understand it, Wikileaks had set up an anonymous donation system, > designed to guarantee that each donor would maintain anonymity when > submitting their leaks. Which, I think, was great! Precisely what should > have been done. But that anonymity also provided deniability: Wikileaks > couldn't be assumed to know from where that information came from, or how it > had been obtained. yeah but that sort of argument is pretty much irrelevant when dealing with the 'justice' system of the american empire. > I have read, a few years ago, implications that Assange may have been someho
Re: BBC News: NovaSAR: UK radar satellite returns first images
On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 18:00:23 + (UTC) jim bell wrote: > NovaSAR:. First all-UK SAR (synthetic aperture radar) satellite sends back > images. "The Pentagon's Rampaging Surveillance Blimp Will Fly Again" http://fortune.com/2016/02/16/rampaging-blimp-will-fly-again/ "U.S. border patrol flies huge blimps with low-altitude radar to detect drones trying to cross border" https://www.recode.net/2016/11/8/13566270/wall-drones-border-control-mexico-drugs-blimp
Re: BBC News: NovaSAR: UK radar satellite returns first images
On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 19:58:32 + (UTC) jim bell wrote: > On Saturday, November 24, 2018, 10:51:29 AM PST, juan > wrote: > > > On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 18:00:23 + (UTC) > jim bell wrote: > > >> NovaSAR:. First all-UK SAR (synthetic aperture radar) satellite sends back > >> images. > > > > amazing new tool for the complete enslavement of the human race, thanks > to western fascist 'science' > > > I guess that kind of news is rather important for cypherpunks because of > >the "know your enemy" principle. > > > Before you spout your paranoia, wow - very disappointing. You might want to think before displaying such a kneejerk reaction when confronted with reality. > you should be aware that SAR has been used since the 1960's, so? I didn't make a comment on any specific date. "new tool" was sarcasm referring to the fact that when advertising garbage, it's usually described as "new and improved". > We can try to imagine how SAR can be used for "the complete enslavement of > the human race", but nevertheless I don't see very much, even when I turn my > "paranoid-mode" dial up to "11". wow - you are trying to mock your betters and only mocking yourself =) - The phenomenom is known as "involuntary self parody". > This particular satellite is said to have a resolution of 6 meters. It's > hard for me to imagine how being able to detect voxels (3-D pixels) of 6 > meter on a side, from space, could enable "the complete enslavement of the > human race". your lack of imagination isn't an argument though. It's more like the "argumentum ad ignoramtiam" fallacy. you might want to consider that the resolution will be improved, for starters. > It can detect buried artillery emplacements, such as those of North Korea, LMAO at the right wing war propaganda. > > It can be used to detect bulging of a few inches height, I thought you said the resolution was 6 meters? > I don't claim (and it would be foolish to claim) that there are no > "anti-freedom" applications for SAR. But I cannot imagine many of those, > compared to the others. In other words, you completely miss the point? Now, let's ignore reality and follow the bullshit 'progressive' propaganda about how amazing 'technology' is. WHY should crypto anarchists care about it? What kind of anarchist or libertarian gives a fuck about the 'applications' you listed?
Re: HuffPost: Julian Assange Faces Federal Charges. But Let's Not Forget What We've Learned From WikiLeaks.
On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 18:18:50 + (UTC) jim bell wrote: > HuffPost: Julian Assange Faces Federal Charges. But Let's Not Forget What > We've Learned From WikiLeaks.. so assamge helped the socialist corporatist fascist trump to gain power and now he's going to be lynched by his 'ally' - I kinda wonder what was assange thinking
Re: BBC News: NovaSAR: UK radar satellite returns first images
On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 18:00:23 + (UTC) jim bell wrote: > NovaSAR:. First all-UK SAR (synthetic aperture radar) satellite sends back > images. amazing new tool for the complete enslavement of the human race, thanks to western fascist 'science' I guess that kind of news is rather important for cypherpunks because of the "know your enemy" principle.
Re: China Social Scoring Coming to Your Country in 2021
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Re: of elephants and men, and scumbags
On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 18:46:18 + (UTC) jim bell wrote: > > uh oh. So let's make clear what "the right" means. As Jim B. pointed > out, the left/right classification comes from the french revolution. What > needs to be added is that the people who sat on "the right" of the assembly > were the conservatives/monarchists/theocrats or representatives of the > 'ancien regime'. > That explains how it applied in France, in 1795 or so. I candidly admit I don't know the whole history of the use of those words but I never saw them used in political literature from the 19th century. If I had to guess, the terms became common in the 20th century. Regardless, the fact that monarchists sat on the right was abstracted and "the right" became a label for conservatives/monarchists. So it doesn't apply only to revolutionary france but to all conservatives/monarchists/theocrats. Now, if "the right' is the state-church-oligarchy, ancien regime, or powers that be, then people who oppose them must be on "the left", at least according to one simple interpretation. In the french case, the people who opposed the monarchy were a mix of socialists and fake libertarians, who wanted varying degrees of statism. Quite related fact : a few years before the french revolution there was a coup d'etat against the english monarchy in north america. This coup d'etat is known as the "american revolution" and was funded and supported by the french monarchy. Furthermore, more than a few particular fake libertarians(jefferson and co.) were involved in both the french and american 'revolutions'. So in the english colonies a bunch of criminals overthrew the english monarchy (so they were left wingers) with help from the french monarchy and founded a slave empire. So they were far right wingers... Coincidentally I wonder if children in the USA learn about the fact that the american coup d'etat was funded by the french. I further wonder if children in public schools are informed of the fact that public 'education' is socialism and political brainwashing. > > > > Now, key features of fascism are close cooperation between the 'private' > sector and government and nationalism-militarism, also known as imperialism. > Fascists usualy believe that they are god's chosen master race and that they > have a Manifest Destiny. In other words the old mercantilists from the > british empire and modern day fascists like the americunts are both 'right > wingers'. And actually modern day corporatists-imperialists are simply the > continuantion of 18th century imperialists. > I won't argue with this, now, except to point out that the so-understood > "leftist" dictatorships of the 20th century (usually based on Communism) > tended to have analogous beliefs. Not identical, of course, but analogous. > For example, Juan says: > "Fascists usualy believe that they are god's chosen master race and that they > have a Manifest Destiny." > My response is that "race" is fairly irrelevant: We can't choose our race. > It's not a "variable", and certainly not in the short-term. One could argue, > "What does it matter if one person believes, and even declares, that his race > is superior? Unless he tries to act on this belief in a hostile or otherwise > violent way, it is functionally irrelevant". Agreed, if a some people are racists and they just talk about it, then it's mostly irrelevant. But when lots of people are racists, like say, the germans, the jews, the americans, and similar imperialist assholes are, then racism becomes an important anti-libertarian factor. In the case of americans, so called 'liberals' actually don't give a fuck about racism OR are racists themselves. They pose as being against racism only for war propaganda purposes. Notice that the 'liberals' where the assholes promoting eugenics at the beginning of the 20th century. OOPS -they did that before hitler and co go figure... > Yet, you will notice today that most of the American Left obsesses about >"Nazis" (seemingly their chosen label for anyone who they have come to >dislike) who, they claim, believe themselves to be superior. My response is: >"Does it really matter what THEY believe about themselves? Is it relevant? >Is it significant? Of course racism is significant in the US. > As for "Manifest Destiny": Communists had the idea that their system would > inexorably spread around the world, destroying all other forms of government. > (So, that
Re: of elephants and men, and scumbags
On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 19:16:50 +1000 jam...@echeque.com wrote: > > > Corvee was typically one day a week working on the fields or some such. > > > Which is a lot less than I spend working for the government. > > On 2018-11-22 18:11, juan wrote: > > One day a week of slavery? cool. > > Way better than today's slavery. Well today's slavery is what fucktards like you have created. I don't understand why you keep whining about it. It's your own creation. And thanks to 'techy' fucktards like you and your 'science' we now enjoy a global surveillance police state which will soon put a radio transmitter in your brain. Or whatever passes for brain in your case. So, please go back to sucking trumpo's cock. That's all you can do. > > > >> The > >> ancient regime did not and could not send a generation off to Russia to > >> die. > > > oh, I'm sure there were no wars in the roman empire, in feudal europe > > and in monarchist europe > > No wars fought by conscript troops, stop lying, retard.
Re: of elephants and men, and scumbags
On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 17:50:54 +1000 jam...@echeque.com wrote: > >> On 2018-11-21 17:45, juan wrote: > >>> uh oh. So let's make clear what "the right" means. As Jim B. pointed > >>> out, the left/right classification comes from the french revolution. What > >>> needs to be added is that the people who sat on "the right" of the > >>> assembly were the conservatives/monarchists/theocrats or representatives > >>> of the 'ancien regime'. > > > On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 16:04:56 +1000 > > jam...@echeque.com wrote: > >> The ancient regime was theoretically absolute, and in an important sense > >> was absolute, but could not conscript, > > On 2018-11-22 16:56, juan wrote: > > excetp, of course it could > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corv%C3%A9e > > Corvee was typically one day a week working on the fields or some such. > Which is a lot less than I spend working for the government. One day a week of slavery? cool. > The > ancient regime did not and could not send a generation off to Russia to die. oh, I'm sure there were no wars in the roman empire, in feudal europe and in monarchist europe - hi hi hi. Seriously, what's the point of you vomiting one piece of nonsense after the other? what's the point of you constantly lying to yourself? How can you pretend to be so blind as to not see that your 'modern' government is the logical extension of the divine right of kings? > > except hyperinflation in france existed in the 18th century (that is > > almost 100 years before the revolution) > > > > > > http://austrianeconomics.wikia.com/wiki/John_Law_inflation_in_France > > There was the important difference that though John Law could inflate > away the paper money in your pocket, he did not and could not try to > force bakers to supply bread for worthless money, unlike Venezuela today > and unlike Revolutionary France. what the fuck are you talking about. > > >> Which gave us science, technology, industrialization, and empire. > > > > notice that's exactly what a 'progressive' socialist would say. > > But that is because they, and you, lie. what? - again you are a 'techno' fascist. You are the exact same sort of retard who thinks that the world should be ruled by a socialist 'artificial super intelligence'. here's a mirror for you https://www.thevenusproject.com/ > > Progressives have destroyed science, and socialists' attempts at > industrialization were second rate (reflect on soviet cars), relied on > buying or stealing technology developed by capitalists lol - you are a left-wing techno-fascist bot James. I challenge you to think for yourself and say anything at least half original. But the problem is, as either a lefty or a righ-winger, you are totally and completely unable to THINK. All you can do is repeat whatever program your masters put into you. > (soviet cars and > car factories were copied from the US under American engineers) and came > at horrifying human cost. sure sure
Re: of elephants and men, and scumbags
On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 16:04:56 +1000 jam...@echeque.com wrote: > On 2018-11-21 17:45, juan wrote: > > uh oh. So let's make clear what "the right" means. As Jim B. pointed > > out, the left/right classification comes from the french revolution. What > > needs to be added is that the people who sat on "the right" of the assembly > > were the conservatives/monarchists/theocrats or representatives of the > > 'ancien regime'. > > The ancient regime was theoretically absolute, and in an important sense > was absolute, but could not conscript, excetp, of course it could https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corv%C3%A9e > nor alter taxes from traditional > sense, so in a very important sense far less absolute than the regime > that replaced it, that wound up flaying bakers for charging more than > the maximum and committing hyperinflation, except hyperinflation in france existed in the 18th century (that is almost 100 years before the revolution) http://austrianeconomics.wikia.com/wiki/John_Law_inflation_in_France In other words you are either fuckingly ignorant, or playing retarded (something that really suits you) Last but not least, whatever crimes the 'new regime' commited they were simply the continuation of the crimes of the old regime. > after the fashion of > Venezuela and wiped out entire generation of Frenchmen invading Russia. > > The divine right regime of Charles the Second gave us corporate > capitalism, lol - so the only valuable thing you've ever said is that you 'were' a leftist. The fact that you were a leftist and now are a fuckingly retarded, far-right fascist is pretty much a mathematical identity. You could be a bit more entertaining if you managed to actually come up with half a thought on your own instead of robotically parroting nonsense... parroting nonsense like a good 'ex' leftist. But then again you *are* a leftist, that is an unthinking idiot. >Which gave us science, technology, industrialization, and empire. notice that's exactly what a 'progressive' socialist would say. So the almost complete identity between left and right, or between western left-wing fascism and right-wing fascism is divinely embodied in fucktard James.
Re: of elephants and men, and scumbags
On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 02:49:31 -0500 Steve Kinney wrote: > > > On 11/20/18 10:41 PM, juan wrote: > > >> http://pilobilus.net/Political.Oritnetation.Grid.png > > > > > > I don't think the 2d graph adds much. The assumption that 'economic' > > freedom and 'personal' freedom are different things is obviously flawed. > > Also, the assumption that 'conservatives' favor 'eonomic' freedom whereas > > 'modern' 'liberals' favor 'personal' freedom is flawed as well. In practice > > both 'conservatives' and 'liberal' are...fascists =) > > Not economic vs. personal freedom, but rather, economic (commerce) vs. > coercive (political) agency: Concentration of capital and firepower in > more or less hands. That would be your X axis? > > > Nolan came up with his chart because libertarianism doesn't fit the > > mainstream left/right classification, BUT the notion that mainstream left > > and right are half libertarian is complete bullshit, wishful thinking and > > dishonest pandering. In practice, both liberals and conservatives pay some > > *lip service* to 'personal' or 'eonomic' freedom while fully supporting > > fascism. > > I was under the impression that Nolan came up with that chart in an > effort to persuade people dissatisfied with the Left/Right spectrum that > they "belong in" the Libertarian Party. I guess that's a related reason. > > I can't fault his motives: It's not that I fault his motives. Rather I think the chart misrepresents the nature of left and right. In the nolan chart left and right are halfway between libertarian and authoritairan, but in reality they have varying degrees of authoritarianism. > Before the hostile takeover that converted > the Libertarian Party to a Radical Conservative a.k.a. Coprporatist org > back in the late 1990s, the Party had a lot to offer - I was a fan and > booster. Today, I can not distinguish Libertarian Party advocates and > its (rare) candidates for political office from "socially tolerant" > Republicans. The Libtards do talk a slightly different game, but I > could not care less about that: Performance is my bottom line. What's your take on this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dallas_Accord Anyway, my understanding is that the LP was supposed to be a means to 'educate' people rather than to seize power. It seems to have failed in both accounts at any rate. And at times the LP candiates were outright neocons, so, self-parody. > > > Anyway, we can simply have a line (or segment I guess) with anarchists > > on one end and authoritarians on the other end. And then we can classify > > the whole library accordingly. > > That's the X axis on the graph... > > > As to the placement of left and right in your graph, seems to me that > > both left and right should be at the top since both are authoritarian. And > > none of them favor free enterprise either... > > I put the Right near the Anarchist end of the scale, because "Private > power" vs. "State power" indicates one central State authority vs. > numerous competitive State-chartered Corporate entities: Think Soviet > Union vs. United States, toward the end of the Cold War era. But state chartered and privileged businesses are hardly anarchist? Another interpretation could be that your bottom left quadrant is literally "anarcho capitalism", but that's confusing because at least in theory "anarcho capitalism' is a synonym for full free enterprise. Though granted more than a few self styled 'anarcho capitalists' are 'anarcho' fascists. Overall I think the problem in your graph is that your capitalism/free enterprise axis should be parallel to the authoritarian/anarchist axis since authoritarian systems control all aspects of the lives of the subjects including of course economic activity. However in a cartesian plane the data in te X axis isn't necessarily related to the data in the Y axis. The x,y components are independent so you can have any combination of x,y and you can have things like "authoritarian free enterprise" which is a clearly contradiction. here's one possible take. https://anonfile.com/v9EdG0l7bf/pol_svg notice that the area marked in grey repesents "authoritarian individualism" which is something that doesn't make sense so even in this case teh 2d format isn't optimal. > > Thanks to several g
Re: Cryptocurrency Dark Side, Voting, Anarchism, Government with McAfee, Rose, Passio and more
On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 02:34:26 -0500 grarpamp wrote: > > dude. The state and apple are two sides of the same coin. > > Corp hates expenses... > - having money forcibly stolen from it and wasted on other things (tax) DUDE! It's not theft because the corps are not the legitimate owners. Furthermore, corps gladly pay taxes because a) the money comes from the consumers anyway and b) they get even more government privileges in exchange for the taxes they (don't) pay. > - having to spend bribery money trying to get what it wants (lobby), Translation : paying ridiculously low amounts for huge privileges. > sometimes wasted by other corps doing same and by crooks in office > > It's not a coin, but a fuckery tryst that got suckered by Gov. > If People and Corp joined team voluntaryist and dismissed the State, Except that is sheer nonsense. You are fully ignoring the nature of corporatism. Your remark is equivalent to "if pigs had win they might fly". > they both win in that regard, and keep status quo between them. > At least until People learn those 2 new profits were passthrough > pricing and start trying to claw it back from Corp. > > > oh but hasnt fukerberg 'deployed' 'strong crypto' too? > > You know, signal, funded by the US govt. > > Facebook owns whatsapp's implementation, not signal. > > Signal has less direct influences... > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Whisper_Systems#Funding LMAO 'less direct' Open Technology Fund2013–2016 $2,955,000 Did I mention that your corps and the state are the two sides of the same coin? I don't think the concept is too hard to grasp? > > > They're tools... create, evaluate, use, and fund, > as desired, or not, your call.
Re: of elephants and men, and scumbags
On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 17:04:56 +1000 jam...@echeque.com wrote: > On 2018-11-21 12:39, juan wrote: > > On Tue, 20 Nov 2018 21:31:11 + (UTC) > > jim bell wrote: > > > > > >> In any case, I think that the 'convention' that we refer to "fascism" as > >> being "right-wing" was, and is, completely phony.� > > > > so assuming that commies and nazis and other fascists are on the left, > > who is on the right then? > > Whosoever wants to restore civilization against the darkness is on the > right. uh oh. So let's make clear what "the right" means. As Jim B. pointed out, the left/right classification comes from the french revolution. What needs to be added is that the people who sat on "the right" of the assembly were the conservatives/monarchists/theocrats or representatives of the 'ancien regime'. Now, key features of fascism are close cooperation between the 'private' sector and government and nationalism-militarism, also known as imperialism. Fascists usualy believe that they are god's chosen master race and that they have a Manifest Destiny. In other words the old mercantilists from the british empire and modern day fascists like the americunts are both 'right wingers'. And actually modern day corporatists-imperialists are simply the continuantion of 18th century imperialists. So the question for Jim Bell remains. What political doctrines are 'right wing'?
Re: of elephants and men, and scumbags
On Tue, 20 Nov 2018 21:51:38 -0500 Steve Kinney wrote: > > The X axis represents distribution of Private power into fewer hands > (Capitalism) or more hands (Free Enterprise). The Y axis represents > distribution of State power into fewer hands (Authoritarian) or more > hands (Anarchist). I do not label the quadrants, leaving that as an > exercise. Examining various "ideologies" in the context of this graph > provides a bit of potentially educational fun. Which quadrant would you > rather live in, and why? > > In this example I place the Right and Left on the graph: > > http://pilobilus.net/Political.Oritnetation.Grid.png I don't think the 2d graph adds much. The assumption that 'economic' freedom and 'personal' freedom are different things is obviously flawed. Also, the assumption that 'conservatives' favor 'eonomic' freedom whereas 'modern' 'liberals' favor 'personal' freedom is flawed as well. In practice both 'conservatives' and 'liberal' are...fascists =) Nolan came up with his chart because libertarianism doesn't fit the mainstream left/right classification, BUT the notion that mainstream left and right are half libertarian is complete bullshit, wishful thinking and dishonest pandering. In practice, both liberals and conservatives pay some *lip service* to 'personal' or 'eonomic' freedom while fully supporting fascism. Anyway, we can simply have a line (or segment I guess) with anarchists on one end and authoritarians on the other end. And then we can classify the whole library accordingly. As to the placement of left and right in your graph, seems to me that both left and right should be at the top since both are authoritarian. And none of them favor free enterprise either...
Re: of elephants and men, and scumbags
On Tue, 20 Nov 2018 21:31:11 + (UTC) jim bell wrote: > In any case, I think that the 'convention' that we refer to "fascism" as > being "right-wing" was, and is, completely phony. so assuming that commies and nazis and other fascists are on the left, who is on the right then?
Re: of elephants and men, and scumbags
On Mon, 19 Nov 2018 15:20:38 -0500 Steve Kinney wrote: > > > On 11/18/18 12:17 AM, juan wrote: > > On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 14:34:11 +1000 > > jam...@echeque.com wrote: > > > > > >> I ceased to be a leftist when > > > > uh oh... > > On the brighter side, now Xenan will have lots of company over there in > my CPunks Spam folder. I'm sure they will get along just fine, out of > sight and out of mind. I open Zen's messages to see if they include a dailystormer link. I can't believe he puts one or more links to the ds in every message, but he does. And maybe I should expand my "uh oh" comment a bit. James used to be a leftist and now he's a rightist. He was a partisan and he is a partisan. He was a 'progressive' social engineer and now he's a conservative social engineer, left and right being two sides of the same coin. > > :o) > > > > >
Re: Cryptocurrency Dark Side, Voting, Anarchism, Government with McAfee, Rose, Passio and more
On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 05:24:25 -0500 grarpamp wrote: > > > > well if we want to kill fiat money we need to win a civil war against > > the > > powers that be. It's not just the central bank. On the other hand if govcorp > > wanted to kill crypto all they have to do is jail/kill a few users and watch > > support for crypto disappear overnight. > > More than a few were jailed and killed and Dark Markets > still haven't disappeared. That's a good point. Black markets are a form of civil resistance so - good, but they are less than ideal, and necessary small. > Even if legalized they'd still > have support for tax and licensing reasons. Same > goes for Fiat itself... no one but the Fiateers actually > wants Fiat, they just haven't grown woke enough balls > yet to start doing something about it. Yeah the problem is conceptually simple, but fixing it isn't that simple... > > Though rare in history, Civil Wars of ideology, which > is what Cryptocurrency Anarchism are, can be won > without mass casualty gunfire. I'm kinda skeptical - we'll have to wait and see... > >> Same as knowing their storage and movement > >> costs are much higher than crypto. > > > > Are they? Is it more expensive to store some ounces of gold at home > > than to > > store private keys? How about the risks? What's the difference between being > > asked at the point of a gun "where's your gold" and "what's your private > > key" ? > > One issue is that arbitrary quantities of metals occupy > linear quantities of physical space, cryptocurrency > have no such restraints. True. You can put billions of dollars in some kind of handheld device, or in a piece of paper. On the other hand, that's convenient for people who have billions of dollars, and that's not 'us' I believe. But if wealth was evenly distributed, something which should happen in the absence of govcorp, then relatively small amounts of precious metals should store a fair amount of value. > > > on the other hand yes, as far as transmitting value goes, digital > > systems > > have clear advantages. Though of course the infrastructure costs are huge > > Bullshit. Add it *ALL* up, *everything* involved in Fiat... But I wasnt talking about fiat =P - I was comparing cryptomoney to free market commodity money. > > Banker and Government salaries, their buildings construction > maintenance heating cooling water, their lawmakers, regulators, > police, their cars and fuel, servicing companies, health insurance, > retirements, their Wars, Indeed the true costs of using govt money are huge and measured in millions of dead people. I'm pointing out that the costs of digital infrastructure are not negligible either, but granted, a lot smaller than the cost of government, and digital infrastructure unlike government, can be useful...at least when used for good. > etc, etc... all of everything that goesinto > Fiat, globally, multiple incarnations of them. A complete waste. > > Then consider cryptocurrency and its few areas of > already extremely well optimized tech efficiencies... > Oh of course. > - Sand (Silicon) > - Electrons (From whatever sources) > - Internet (Sand + Electrons) Haha, except, in reality, the fabs that use sand as raw material cost 5000 millions each. The transcontinental fiber optic links cost obscene amounts of money as well and all this infrastructure is owned by govcorp. (although we paid for it) > > Fiat will always be *hundreds* of times more costly and > forceful than any set of adopted true cryptocurrencies. > Indeed. > Too bad people *still* orgasm over centralized spy > and control brain numbing tech. That shit is old school, > been there, done that. Yeah no doubt the people who benefit from those schemes are quite happy about them. > > >> > sound money ... 'gold standard' ... counterfeited > >> > >> Not so much. While it's much harder to print gold than > >> worthless fiat paper, > > > > the only way to print gold that I can think of is to use astronomical > > amounts of energy to synthetize a few gold atoms. So, not practical to say > > the least. > > Gold mining from earth by slave labor and mining tech from secret > reserves is essentially printing it, albeit harder than printing fiat. Well in that case the problem is slave labor. The profits for the gold 'printer' come from exploiting people not from increasing the gold supply. Thing is, commodities have value as commodities, so increasing their supply always has some benefit, whereas increasing the supply of paper money is simply a wealth transferring mechanism which doesn't add any 'value'. > > Gold is an element, not a molecule, it can't be synthesized without > atomic slow yield and risk, or stellar amounts of energy and time. > Mining gold from seawater is perhaps relatively efficient to atomic synthesis. >
Re: of elephants and men, and scumbags
On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 14:34:11 +1000 jam...@echeque.com wrote: > I ceased to be a leftist when uh oh...
Re: public Freenet webGUI
On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 02:05:53 +0100 (CET) wrote: > While I could be logging everything, that's arguably more-or-less irrelevant, > because Tor renders you and the node mutually anonymous. LMAO!! pentagon agent, torbot, troll detected. bottom line, don't use this 'service' at all.
Re: Cryptocurrency Dark Side, - roger ver - bcash
On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 05:24:25 -0500 grarpamp wrote: > Pre 10 Years > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHVBTAxGd8U > ok - so that's roger ver babbling about how AMAZING coinbase is. It can't get any more fucked up than that can it. Ver says that he knows that it's 'better' if people 'keep' their private keys BUT coinbase is AMAZING anyway, despite the fact that coinbase stands AGAINST everything that cryptocurrencies should stand for. And fucking ver knows it. But hey he sucks 'brian amrstrongs' dick anyway. any bcash fans might want to take notice and explain why ver says that =) also, notice how ver and craig wright, also know as SATOSHI (hi hi hi), managed to sink the price of bcash, their own altcoin, from 620 to 390 in 2 days. That's almost 40% down. Impressive =)
Re: X86 dispatch contention vulnerability
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 23:25:18 + (UTC) jim bell wrote: > When I worked for Intel (1980-1982), a typical silicon linewidth was 3 > microns. (3000 nanometers.) Recently I saw that Intel was using a 10 > nanometer process, 300x smaller in linear size, and (300x)**2 (90,000) > smaller in area. What's truly amazing is how they have come to be able to > etch such small feature-sizes on silicon. For a long time, they were using > 193 (?) nanometer UV light to do that, and yet they got feature-sizes below > 50 nanometers. Yes, that's interesting. At first I naively assumed that you couldn't print stuff smaller than the wavelength used but that's not the case at all. >(using a lot of photolithographic 'tricks' to do so!.) Now, I think they >probably use "EUV", short for "Extreme Ultraviolet", which amounts to >soft-xrays, maybe at about 10nm wavelength or even shorter. >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_ultraviolet Yeah, the accuracy is impressive. Now, from a libertarian point of view, there's a huge accumulation of knowledge and 'capital' in the hands of very few people. Also, many of these developments are govt subsidized in many ways and end up in the hands of a few monopolistic businesses. What this boils down to of course is the fact that the infrastructure is fully controlled by the enemy. > Hard-disk manufacturers probably characterize their platters in a similar > way, looking for weak areas that have trouble recording data. Yes, hard disks can mark and stop using bad sectors. Actually cheap floppy disks controllers did the same thing... > > Jim Bell > > > >
Re: X86 dispatch contention vulnerability
On Wed, 14 Nov 2018 21:15:29 + (UTC) jim bell wrote: me >> IIRC you also worked for intel designing memory chips? Excuse my rather naive question but...Did you see/hear at that time any hints that chips were being tampered with or somehow backdooored because of 'national security'? > I didn't design memory chips. I was a "product engineer" for a specific > self-refreshing dynamic RAM I guess I didn't recall correctly then =P . I must have assumed that product engineer more or less meant designer. > In fact, I was the first person at Intel, and perhaps in the world, who saw > the flash(es) through the microscope of the as-being-blown fuses on these > chips. Intel was doing this redundancy before anyone else, I believe. Interesting. I thought that sort of patching was something relatively new only done to the chips in sdcards and the like. I guess it's not new. > I was never in a position to hear if chips could be "backdoored". Oh well. Thanks for the engineering details and info anyway =) > Jim Bell > > > > >
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here's a guy called craig wright, also known as 'satoshi nakamoto' (LMAO!!!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXMCzhwm554 the points he makes are quite interesting : his and the bloomberg-journo-asshole's criticism of the lightning network is that LN users(nodes) would be 'unlicensed money transmitters' and so would be doing 'illegal money laundering'. 'satoshi nakamoto' then rants against even more people who are 'redesigning' bitcoin to be 'illegal', that is have some privacy built in. "I'm going to shut them down with SV". "We are going to take legal action" et cetera. No doubt that the guy is Real Libertarian. It should be mentioned that wright or 'satoshi nakamoto'(LMAO!!!) used to be a buddy of roger ver's but ver has finally disowned him.
Re: X86 dispatch contention vulnerability
On Wed, 14 Nov 2018 19:00:52 + (UTC) jim bell wrote: > My company, SemiDisk Systems, was very close to the first disk emulator for a > number of types of PC, including the S-100, TRS-80 Model II, IBM PC, Epson > Q-10.https://www.pcworld.com/article/246617/storage/evolution-of-the-solid-state-drive.html IIRC you also worked for intel designing memory chips? Excuse my rather naive question but...Did you see/hear at that time any hints that chips were being tampered with or somehow backdooored because of 'national security'?
Re: Cryptocurrency Dark Side, Voting, Anarchism, Government with McAfee, Rose, Passio and more
On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 23:36:02 -0500 grarpamp wrote: > Crypto already much harder to kill than fiat, fiat's kill point > being exchanges known as local and central banks. well if we want to kill fiat money we need to win a civil war against the powers that be. It's not just the central bank. On the other hand if govcorp wanted to kill crypto all they have to do is jail/kill a few users and watch support for crypto disappear overnight. > > > soldier-child-mutderer as 'bodyguard'. > > He's not hiring them to murder children, but > to defend selves against incoming aggression. The point is that he hires 'ex' child murderers and brags about it. He could have hired other people instead of navy scum. > Ask the military scum their brass and political > schemers why they not talk about their murder. They are all morally responsible. However the soldiers are both morally and materially responsible. But hey if your CV says "imperial child murderer' then you get hired by 'libertarian' mcafee. > > It's still a question to be answered though. > > > eggs are not a good "medium of exchange". > > They're fine within their limited expiry time, > they last longer in the form of hatched chickens. No, eggs are not fine as commodity money, they pretty much lack any properties that a commodity requires if it's to be used as money. So, putting eggs and metals in the same basket sounds funny, but if you look closely the joke is on you =) > > > coins, are vastly superior to > > any 'crypto currency' in many aspects. . > > Old news. Well, my point is that it doesn't seem to be old news for people like stornetta (and a few other crypto cheerleaders) > Same as knowing their storage and movement > costs are much higher than crypto. Are they? Is it more expensive to store some ounces of gold at home than to store private keys? How about the risks? What's the difference between being asked at the point of a gun "where's your gold" and "what's your private key" ? on the other hand yes, as far as transmitting value goes, digital systems have clear advantages. Though of course the infrastructure costs are huge and at the moment the hardware is sabotaged. > And that one cannot > store them in their brain or other mechanisms like crypto. > > > 'technology' because it's the most dangerous enabler of totalitarianism > > ever. > > Duh. well it's something that the likes of stornetta or the retarded cunt who inverviewd him seem to royally miss. > > > sound money ... 'gold standard' ... counterfeited > > Not so much. While it's much harder to print gold than > worthless fiat paper, the only way to print gold that I can think of is to use astronomical amounts of energy to synthetize a few gold atoms. So, not practical to say the least. > any marked gold issuance marketed > as being serialized valuable controlled whatever can be > cloned by duplicating marks. Oh, it may be possible to cheat some people who stupidly regard markings as proof of purity, but that's not a general argument. But \printing' gold leaf? Good luck with that. > And secret under / over reporting > of mining and diversions can occur, and no one really knows > who has how much existing gold where in secret vaults. the secret vaults are govcorp vaults and the gold in them was confiscated after the govt itself destroyed the gold standard. So the problem isn't metals per se but government, as ever. > > Known issuance crypto beats gold there. Does it? We may know how many cryptocoins have been 'issued' BUT we don't know if the coins still exist. As a matter of fact bitcoin's case is especially fucked since it is 'believed' that something like 1 million coins may be owned by 'satoshi'or maybe he lost the keys. Or, you have stuff like bitcoin cash where it's sensible to assume that ver and bitmain own a good chunk of the 'supply'. Also IIRC zcash or a similar system had a 'bug' that allowed for unlimited, undetectable counterfeiting? > And any vaults aren't thousand years old, only 10. > > They both suffer from infinite divisibility, which makes it > unlikely that top secret hoards will be drawn down and > dispersed in market by any demand to get various sizes > of currency into circulation... they'll just let adoption divide > them and remain even larger kings. well divisibility is one of the reguired properties of money (and one of the reasons why eggs or chickens don't make good money). anyway, the fact that the distribution of gold, bitcoins or wealth in general is fucked isn't so much a technical problem but a direct consequence of organized crime aka government and government protected businesses. > > > Bottom line : you cannot beat the 'decentralization' and privacy of > > trading metals in pe
