Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wikipedia Tor]

2005-09-27 Thread James A. Donald
-- From: Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] A very subtle attack, perhaps? If I were so-and-so, I consider it a real coup to stop the kinds of legitimate Wikipedia entries that might be made from Tor users. And if this is the case, you can bet that there are other obvious

/. [How Chinese Evade Government's Web Controls]

2005-09-27 Thread Eugen Leitl
Link: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/09/27/1235203 Posted by: CmdrTaco, on 2005-09-27 13:37:00 [1]Carl Bialik from the WSJ writes China is moving to 'centralize all China-based Web news and opinion under a state regulator,' the Wall Street Journal reports, but determined citizens

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wikipedia Tor]

2005-09-27 Thread R.A. Hettinga
At 8:43 AM -0700 9/27/05, James A. Donald wrote: In the long run, reliable pseudonymity will prove more valuable than reliable anonymity. Amen. And, at the extreme end of the curve, perfect psedudonymity *is* perfect anonymity. Character. I wouldn't buy anything from a man with no character if

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wikipedia Tor]

2005-09-27 Thread Roy M. Silvernail
Quoting R.A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED]: At 8:43 AM -0700 9/27/05, James A. Donald wrote: In the long run, reliable pseudonymity will prove more valuable than reliable anonymity. Amen. And, at the extreme end of the curve, perfect psedudonymity *is* perfect anonymity. Character. I

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wikipedia Tor]

2005-09-27 Thread R.A. Hettinga
Speaking of pseudonymity... At 12:53 PM -0400 9/27/05, Somebody wrote: Argh! Not this again! Yes, again, and I'll keep repeating it until you get it. :-). No, anonymity is don't know who sent it. For some definitions of who. To paraphrase a famous sink-washing president, it depends on who you

Re: /. [How Chinese Evade Government's Web Controls]

2005-09-27 Thread Peter Thoenen
Chinese Web Controls and Tor ... a subject I happen to have close personal experience with. Just took a three week vacation to Dali, China and after hitting the Great Firewall of China (tm), hopped over to the eff site, downloaded tor and privoxy, and 10 minutes later was up and running bypassing

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Wikipedia Tor]

2005-09-27 Thread Eugen Leitl
- Forwarded message from Roger Dingledine [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Roger Dingledine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 15:54:38 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Wikipedia Tor User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Sep 27, 2005 at 11:18:31AM -0400,

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Wikipedia Tor]

2005-09-27 Thread Roy M. Silvernail
[yes, I know I'm preaching to the choir] - Forwarded message from Roger Dingledine [EMAIL PROTECTED] - A potential for cooperation is the proposal below for authenticated access to Wikipedia through Tor. I will not speak to any particular design here, but if Wikipedia has a notion

Re: /. [How Chinese Evade Government's Web Controls]

2005-09-27 Thread Tyler Durden
What the heck are you doing there for three weeks? Buying some golden triangle goods? I hear it's beautiful, however, but it's not like you took a direct international flight there... -TD From: Peter Thoenen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

RE: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Wikipedia Tor]

2005-09-27 Thread Tyler Durden
Sorry...I don't understand...why would psuedonymity services be provided within Tor? An external reputation/psuedonymity server would of course reduce a Tor users' anonymity to mere psuedonymity, but I don't see how it would do anything more, and who cares? If Wikipedia (or anyone) doesn't

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Wikipedia Tor]

2005-09-27 Thread lists
Tyler Durden wrote: Sorry...I don't understand...why would psuedonymity services be provided within Tor? I find the concept of having both pseudonymous and anonymous traffic through TOR quite interesting. In some cases, you really do wish to just separate yourself from your meatspace

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Wikipedia Tor]

2005-09-27 Thread R.A. Hettinga
At 8:37 PM -0400 9/27/05, lists wrote: Building a TOR nymspace would be much more interesting and distributed. Since the first time I met Dingledine, he was talking pseudonymity, bigtime. I was curious when he went to play with onion routers, but maybe I'm not so surprised anymore... Cheers,

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wikipedia Tor]

2005-09-27 Thread Roy M. Silvernail
Quoting Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - Forwarded message from Arrakis Tor [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This is a conversation with Jimmy Wales regarding how we can get Wikipedia to let Tor get through. I completely fail to comprehend why Tor server operators consistently refuse to take

[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wikipedia Tor]

2005-09-27 Thread Eugen Leitl
- Forwarded message from Arrakis Tor [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Arrakis Tor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 07:48:22 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Wikipedia Tor Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is a conversation with Jimmy Wales regarding how we can get Wikipedia to let

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wikipedia Tor]

2005-09-27 Thread Tyler Durden
What's the problem here? The Wikipedia guy sees lots of garbage coming out of IP address set {X} so he blocks said address set. Somewhat regrettable but no suprise, is it? On the other hand, doesn't it seem a little -odd- that the Tor network is already being used in this way? Granted, even I

Re: Wired on Secrecy Power Sinks Patent Case

2005-09-27 Thread Tyler Durden
Nah...it wasn't half a million. It was a hell of a lot more, I suspect. Even a standard SC or APC connector cost $50 in those days, and from what I suspect this would be MUCH much more than that, and probably formed just one piece of a larger contract. The odd thing about this case was that

Re: Wired on Secrecy Power Sinks Patent Case

2005-09-26 Thread Steve Schear
At 09:14 AM 9/20/2005, Tyler Durden wrote: Very interesting CPunks reading, for a variety of reasons. http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,68894,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1 Of course, the fact that Lucent has been in shit shape financially must have nothing to do with what is effectively a

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Re: Wired on Secrecy Power Sinks Patent Case

2005-09-26 Thread Steve Schear
At 09:14 AM 9/20/2005, Tyler Durden wrote: Very interesting CPunks reading, for a variety of reasons. http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,68894,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1 Of course, the fact that Lucent has been in shit shape financially must have nothing to do with what is effectively a

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [IP] Request: Check your cell phone to see if it's always transmitting your location [priv]]

2005-09-23 Thread Gregory Hicks
From: Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [IP] Request: Check your cell phone to see if it's always transmitting your location [priv]] Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 12:56:33 -0400 Are you sure? No, but the phone now SAYS that

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [IP] Request: Check your cell phone to see if it's always transmitting your location [priv]]

2005-09-23 Thread Tyler Durden
Actually, depending on your App, this would seem to be th very OPPOSITE of a moot point. -TD From: Gregory Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Gregory Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [IP] Request: Check your cell

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [IP] Request: Check your cell phone to see if it's always transmitting your location [priv]]

2005-09-23 Thread Tyler Durden
Are you sure? -TD From: R.A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [IP] Request: Check your cell phone to see if it's always transmitting your location [priv]] Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 10:05:31 -0400 At 2:59 PM +0200 9/22/05, Eugen Leitl wrote:

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]: [IP] Request: Check your cell phone to see if it's always transmitting your location [priv]]

2005-09-22 Thread Eugen Leitl
- Forwarded message from David Farber [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: David Farber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 08:57:50 -0400 To: Ip Ip ip@v2.listbox.com Subject: [IP] Request: Check your cell phone to see if it's always transmitting your location [priv] X-Mailer: Apple Mail

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [IP] Request: Check your cell phone to see if it's always transmitting your location [priv]]

2005-09-22 Thread Riad S. Wahby
R.A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fixed *that*. I've had my location off (as much as is possible) since I had my first phone that had the option, a Samsung A500. Unfortunately, that phone had a firmware bug (never fixed while I had it) such that, when it was in non-location mode, upon

Re: GPS Jammer Firm nearly ejected from Russian air show.

2005-09-22 Thread Nomen Nescio
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2005/08/22/002.html Antonov denied that his company delivered any equipment directly to Saddam Hussein but acknowledged it might have reached Iraq via arms dealers. Right before the war, there were a lot of people in Moscow with suitcases full of

Re: GPS Jammer Firm nearly ejected from Russian air show.

2005-09-22 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 04:50:07PM +0200, Nomen Nescio wrote: GPS frequencies are fixed, so they can be interfered with. Only in Military receivers are somewhat hardened at least against terrestrial jamming. It would be probably impossible to be immune to strong airborne (balloons and drones)

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [IP] Request: Check your cell phone to see if it's always transmitting your location [priv]]

2005-09-22 Thread Tyler Durden
Are you sure? -TD From: R.A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [IP] Request: Check your cell phone to see if it's always transmitting your location [priv]] Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 10:05:31 -0400 At 2:59 PM +0200 9/22/05, Eugen Leitl wrote:

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [IP] Request: Check your cell phone to see if it's always transmitting your location [priv]]

2005-09-22 Thread Gregory Hicks
From: Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [IP] Request: Check your cell phone to see if it's always transmitting your location [priv]] Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 12:56:33 -0400 Are you sure? No, but the phone now SAYS that

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [IP] Request: Check your cell phone to see if it's always transmitting your location [priv]]

2005-09-22 Thread Tyler Durden
Actually, depending on your App, this would seem to be th very OPPOSITE of a moot point. -TD From: Gregory Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Gregory Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [IP] Request: Check your cell

Re: Fwd: Re: MIT talk: Special-Purpose Hardware for Integer Factoring

2005-09-22 Thread James A. Donald
-- Steve Furlong [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Not that I'm particularly fond of the Prez, but I'm not one of the LLLs who say he's worse than Hitler, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, and Ronald Regan combined.) (Stalin doesn't go into that equation because he was, you know, a good guy whose actions have been

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [IP] Request: Check your cell phone to see if it's always transmitting your location [priv]]

2005-09-22 Thread Riad S. Wahby
R.A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fixed *that*. I've had my location off (as much as is possible) since I had my first phone that had the option, a Samsung A500. Unfortunately, that phone had a firmware bug (never fixed while I had it) such that, when it was in non-location mode, upon

Wired on Secrecy Power Sinks Patent Case

2005-09-22 Thread Tyler Durden
Very interesting CPunks reading, for a variety of reasons. http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,68894,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1 Of course, the fact that Lucent has been in shit shape financially must have nothing to do with what is effectively a state-sponsored protection of intellectual

[EMAIL PROTECTED]: [IP] Request: Check your cell phone to see if it's always transmitting your location [priv]]

2005-09-22 Thread Eugen Leitl
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]: [IP] OT: Canada: Sweeping new surveillance bill to criminalize investigative journalism]

2005-09-22 Thread Eugen Leitl
Why Brin is full of it, and reverse panopticon is a fantasy. - Forwarded message from David Farber [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: David Farber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:52:35 -0400 To: Ip Ip ip@v2.listbox.com Subject: [IP] OT: Canada: Sweeping new surveillance bill to

Re: Wired on Secrecy Power Sinks Patent Case

2005-09-22 Thread Justin
On 2005-09-20T12:14:13-0400, Tyler Durden wrote: Very interesting CPunks reading, for a variety of reasons. http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,68894,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1 I'm sick of this mosaic theory being used to justify preventing access to unclassified information. -- War is

Re: GPS Jammer Firm nearly ejected from Russian air show.

2005-09-22 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 04:50:07PM +0200, Nomen Nescio wrote: GPS frequencies are fixed, so they can be interfered with. Only in Military receivers are somewhat hardened at least against terrestrial jamming. It would be probably impossible to be immune to strong airborne (balloons and drones)

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [IP] Request: Check your cell phone to see if it's always transmitting your location [priv]]

2005-09-22 Thread R.A. Hettinga
At 2:59 PM +0200 9/22/05, Eugen Leitl wrote: For my Treo phone, I found the location option under Phone Preferences in the Options menu of the main phone screen. Bada-bing! Fixed *that*. Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [IP] OT: Canada: Sweeping new surveillance bill to criminalize investigative journalism]

2005-09-22 Thread R.A. Hettinga
At 8:46 PM +0200 9/21/05, Eugen Leitl wrote: Why Brin is full of it, and reverse panopticon is a fantasy. Obviously Brin is full of it -- from my own personal experience, even, :-) -- but one should remember that law, much less legislation, is always a lagging indicator. Physics causes finance,

Re: Wired on Secrecy Power Sinks Patent Case

2005-09-22 Thread Tyler Durden
So if the state hasn't classified my data (and I kinda doubt they will), then it should be up for grabs by anyone suckin' down the dole? -TD From: Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Wired on Secrecy Power Sinks Patent Case Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 18:54:23 + On

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]: [Politech] In China, U.S. tech companies face free speech choices [fs]]

2005-09-21 Thread Eugen Leitl
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Re: Wired on Secrecy Power Sinks Patent Case

2005-09-21 Thread Tyler Durden
So if the state hasn't classified my data (and I kinda doubt they will), then it should be up for grabs by anyone suckin' down the dole? -TD From: Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Wired on Secrecy Power Sinks Patent Case Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 18:54:23 + On

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [IP] OT: Canada: Sweeping new surveillance bill to criminalize investigative journalism]

2005-09-21 Thread R.A. Hettinga
At 8:46 PM +0200 9/21/05, Eugen Leitl wrote: Why Brin is full of it, and reverse panopticon is a fantasy. Obviously Brin is full of it -- from my own personal experience, even, :-) -- but one should remember that law, much less legislation, is always a lagging indicator. Physics causes finance,

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Re: Fwd: Re: MIT talk: Special-Purpose Hardware for Integer Factoring

2005-09-20 Thread James A. Donald
-- Steve Furlong [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Not that I'm particularly fond of the Prez, but I'm not one of the LLLs who say he's worse than Hitler, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, and Ronald Regan combined.) (Stalin doesn't go into that equation because he was, you know, a good guy whose actions have been

Wired on Secrecy Power Sinks Patent Case

2005-09-20 Thread Tyler Durden
Very interesting CPunks reading, for a variety of reasons. http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,68894,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1 Of course, the fact that Lucent has been in shit shape financially must have nothing to do with what is effectively a state-sponsored protection of intellectual

Re: Wired on Secrecy Power Sinks Patent Case

2005-09-20 Thread Justin
On 2005-09-20T12:14:13-0400, Tyler Durden wrote: Very interesting CPunks reading, for a variety of reasons. http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,68894,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1 I'm sick of this mosaic theory being used to justify preventing access to unclassified information. -- War is

Re: The ghost of Cypherpunks

2005-09-20 Thread James A. Donald
-- James A. Donald : So when I buy coffee, that is political? Damian Gerow Is it organic, fair-trade, shade-grown coffee? Locally grown? Locally roasted? Purchased through StarBucks or a local coffee shop? Do the growers use their profits to help the growth of coca plants? Or

Re: The ghost of Cypherpunks

2005-09-20 Thread James A. Donald
-- From: ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Assuming that you mean feminism is a variant of Marxism, what exactly do you mean by Marxism? Marxism reinterpreted history as class war, though in fact workers tended to cooperate with bosses and make war on competing workers, and similarly

Re: Fwd: Re: MIT talk: Special-Purpose Hardware for Integer Factoring

2005-09-20 Thread R.A. Hettinga
At 2:29 PM -0400 9/19/05, Steve Furlong wrote: What does George Bushitler stand to gain from this machine? There you go again... Cheers, RAH I feel *gd*... -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44

Re: The ghost of Cypherpunks

2005-09-20 Thread R.A. Hettinga
At 9:46 AM -0700 9/19/05, James A. Donald wrote: like Ben and Jerry's rainforest crunch, where by buying overpriced and extra fattening icecream, you were supposedly saving the rainforest and preserving indigenous cultures . Politics is marketing by other means... ;-) Cheers, RAH Or is it the

Re: Fwd: Re: MIT talk: Special-Purpose Hardware for Integer Factoring

2005-09-20 Thread Steve Furlong
On 9/19/05, R.A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 2:29 PM -0400 9/19/05, Steve Furlong wrote: What does George Bushitler stand to gain from this machine? There you go again... Just to be clear, that's what I'd expect the current wave of j-school grads to be asking, not what I'd be

Re: Fwd: Re: MIT talk: Special-Purpose Hardware for Integer Factoring

2005-09-20 Thread Steve Furlong
On 9/16/05, R.A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Time travel aside (okay, innumeracy aside, some state-school philosophy majors can't count, either...), if I'm a reporter, this is new journalism, since most of the missive is about *wonderful* *ME*... Never mind the numbers. How does this

Re: The ghost of Cypherpunks

2005-09-19 Thread ken
James A. Donald wrote: -- From: ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you really think that politics only exists where there is a state? I'd have thought the opposite is true. Most states actively prevent most people participating in politics. The more authoritarian the state, the

Re: The ghost of Cypherpunks

2005-09-19 Thread ken
R.A. Hettinga wrote: You're damn right it's political. Especially if you're a Marxist, or some, shall we say homeopathic variant thereof: after all, the personal is political, right? Assuming that you mean feminism is a variant of Marxism, what exactly do you mean by Marxism?

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Re: The ghost of Cypherpunks

2005-09-19 Thread R.A. Hettinga
At 2:31 PM +0100 9/19/05, ken wrote: Assuming that you mean feminism is a variant of Marxism, what exactly do you mean by Marxism? Exactly what you do. Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44

Re: The ghost of Cypherpunks

2005-09-19 Thread James A. Donald
-- James A. Donald : So when I buy coffee, that is political? Damian Gerow Is it organic, fair-trade, shade-grown coffee? Locally grown? Locally roasted? Purchased through StarBucks or a local coffee shop? Do the growers use their profits to help the growth of coca plants? Or

Re: The ghost of Cypherpunks

2005-09-19 Thread Steve Furlong
On 9/19/05, James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: like Ben and Jerry's rainforest crunch, where by buying overpriced and extra fattening icecream, you were supposedly saving the rainforest and preserving indigenous cultures . --shrug-- It's better than directly contributing to most causes.

Re: The ghost of Cypherpunks

2005-09-19 Thread R.A. Hettinga
At 9:46 AM -0700 9/19/05, James A. Donald wrote: like Ben and Jerry's rainforest crunch, where by buying overpriced and extra fattening icecream, you were supposedly saving the rainforest and preserving indigenous cultures . Politics is marketing by other means... ;-) Cheers, RAH Or is it the

Re: Fwd: Re: MIT talk: Special-Purpose Hardware for Integer Factoring

2005-09-19 Thread Steve Furlong
On 9/16/05, R.A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Time travel aside (okay, innumeracy aside, some state-school philosophy majors can't count, either...), if I'm a reporter, this is new journalism, since most of the missive is about *wonderful* *ME*... Never mind the numbers. How does this

Re: Fwd: Re: MIT talk: Special-Purpose Hardware for Integer Factoring

2005-09-19 Thread R.A. Hettinga
At 2:29 PM -0400 9/19/05, Steve Furlong wrote: What does George Bushitler stand to gain from this machine? There you go again... Cheers, RAH I feel *gd*... -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44

Re: Fwd: Re: MIT talk: Special-Purpose Hardware for Integer Factoring

2005-09-19 Thread Steve Furlong
On 9/19/05, R.A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 2:29 PM -0400 9/19/05, Steve Furlong wrote: What does George Bushitler stand to gain from this machine? There you go again... Just to be clear, that's what I'd expect the current wave of j-school grads to be asking, not what I'd be

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2005-09-19 Thread R.A. Hettinga
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Re: The ghost of Cypherpunks

2005-09-19 Thread James A. Donald
-- From: ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Assuming that you mean feminism is a variant of Marxism, what exactly do you mean by Marxism? Marxism reinterpreted history as class war, though in fact workers tended to cooperate with bosses and make war on competing workers, and similarly

Fwd: Re: MIT talk: Special-Purpose Hardware for Integer Factoring

2005-09-19 Thread Bill Stewart
Eran Tromer of Weizmann Institute gave a talk at MIT on special-purpose factoring machines, and Intrepid Reporter Bob Hettinga summarized to Perry's List. Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 21:12:30 -0400 To: cryptography@metzdowd.com From: R.A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MIT talk:

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2005-09-19 Thread Tyler Durden
A few more Tor questions.. Are there yet commercial Tor web hosters? How much would this cost vs hosting one's own node? Since I assume the website actually resides on a single node, there is the slight problem of the node owner knowing, at least, that he had been paid to host X sites, on

Re: The ghost of Cypherpunks

2005-09-19 Thread ken
R.A. Hettinga wrote: You're damn right it's political. Especially if you're a Marxist, or some, shall we say homeopathic variant thereof: after all, the personal is political, right? Assuming that you mean feminism is a variant of Marxism, what exactly do you mean by Marxism?

Re: The ghost of Cypherpunks

2005-09-19 Thread R.A. Hettinga
At 2:31 PM +0100 9/19/05, ken wrote: Assuming that you mean feminism is a variant of Marxism, what exactly do you mean by Marxism? Exactly what you do. Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44

Re: The ghost of Cypherpunks

2005-09-19 Thread ken
James A. Donald wrote: -- From: ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you really think that politics only exists where there is a state? I'd have thought the opposite is true. Most states actively prevent most people participating in politics. The more authoritarian the state, the

Mass. Gov. Romney suggests Wiretapping Mosques, Domestic Spying

2005-09-19 Thread Bill Stewart
Of course, had he suggested wiretapping Catholic churches in Boston because there might be people raising funds for terrorist groups like the IRA, he'd have been run out of town on a rail. Of course this month it's Protestants who are doing the terrorism in Northern Ireland, and the IRA's gone

Re: The ghost of Cypherpunks

2005-09-19 Thread James A. Donald
-- From: ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you really think that politics only exists where there is a state? I'd have thought the opposite is true. Most states actively prevent most people participating in politics. The more authoritarian the state, the more in compells people

Re: The ghost of Cypherpunks

2005-09-19 Thread R.A. Hettinga
At 2:03 PM -0400 9/17/05, Damian Gerow wrote: You're damn right it's political. Especially if you're a Marxist, or some, shall we say homeopathic variant thereof: after all, the personal is political, right? Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet

Re: The ghost of Cypherpunks

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Re: The ghost of Cypherpunks

2005-09-17 Thread James A. Donald
-- From: ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you really think that politics only exists where there is a state? I'd have thought the opposite is true. Most states actively prevent most people participating in politics. The more authoritarian the state, the more in compells people

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Re: The ghost of Cypherpunks

2005-09-17 Thread Damian Gerow
Thus spake James A. Donald ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [17/09/05 03:56]: : So when I buy coffee, that is political? Is it organic, fair-trade, shade-grown coffee? Locally grown? Locally roasted? Purchased through StarBucks or a local coffee shop? Do the growers use their profits to help the growth of

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Re: The ghost of Cypherpunks

2005-09-17 Thread R.A. Hettinga
At 2:03 PM -0400 9/17/05, Damian Gerow wrote: You're damn right it's political. Especially if you're a Marxist, or some, shall we say homeopathic variant thereof: after all, the personal is political, right? Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet

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