Re: The Register - Computer ballot outfit perverts Senate race, theorist says (fwd)

2003-02-09 Thread Jim Choate
On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, [iso-8859-1] André Esteves wrote: A problem in democracy, is that when you tamper with things, and got with it, it will probably be ve dificult to prove you did it. Think: It's evolution!!! There is a wit war between any forces in a democracy to get away with it.

Re: Putting the NSA Data Overwrite Standard Legend to Death...(fwd)

2003-02-09 Thread Jim Choate
On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, Dave Howe wrote: Jim Choate wrote: Which is a blind path since those files -must- be unencrypted and if they do mount the disk they have to have access to the key to unencrypt the fs hence you're in the same boat as with Winblows. At least in theory a lilo boot

Re: Putting the NSA Data Overwrite Standard Legend to Death...(fwd)

2003-02-09 Thread Jim Choate
On Sat, 8 Feb 2003, Sunder wrote: In real life this will not work as most Windoze hard disk encryption schemes can't encrypt the OS disk - and this is where the temp/cache stuff goes. These can have more than enough info to reveal what's on your crypto disk (ie. shortcuts to url's you've

Re: The Register - Computer ballot outfit perverts Senate race, theorist says (fwd)

2003-02-09 Thread Jim Choate
On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, [iso-8859-1] André Esteves wrote: A problem in democracy, is that when you tamper with things, and got with it, it will probably be ve dificult to prove you did it. Think: It's evolution!!! There is a wit war between any forces in a democracy to get away with it.

Re: Putting the NSA Data Overwrite Standard Legend to Death...(fwd)

2003-02-09 Thread Jim Choate
On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, Dave Howe wrote: Jim Choate wrote: Yes, it can mount the partition. That isn't the problem. The problem is that for lilo to do this it has to have access to the key in plaintext. That makes the entire exercise moot. not if you have to type it every time. Then I'd say

ABCNEWS.com : Court Rules in Favor of Vote Swap Web Site (fwd)

2003-02-07 Thread Jim Choate
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/SciTech/reuters20030206_694.html -- We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives.

ScienceDaily News Release: 'Sticky' DNA Crystals Promise New Way ToProcess Information (fwd)

2003-02-07 Thread Jim Choate
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/02/030207070412.htm -- We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives.

FBI taps Chinese students at U.S. universities / Attempt to learnwhat military information China may be seeking (fwd)

2003-02-07 Thread Jim Choate
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/a/2003/02/07/MN3492.DTL -- We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives.

ABCNEWS.com : Searchers Seek Mystery Object from Doomed Shuttle(fwd)

2003-02-07 Thread Jim Choate
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/SciTech/reuters20030206_671.html -- We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives.

Techweb News signature authentication Signature-Authenti...MakerHopes To Replace Text-Based Passwords February 6, 2003 (fwd)

2003-02-07 Thread Jim Choate
http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB20030206S0003 -- We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. Criswell, Plan 9

Fwd: if you're happy and you know it bomb iraq (fwd)

2003-02-06 Thread Jim Choate
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:34:37 -0600 (CST) Subject: Fwd: if you're happy and you know it bomb iraq Original Message Subject: FW: if you're happy and you know it bomb iraq From: christopher johnson Date: Wed, February 5, 2003 7:18 am To:

Re: The news from May's peech...Narc-power

2003-01-31 Thread Jim Choate
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Tyler Durden wrote: Me? I grew up here in NYC in the 70s, where/when Punk began (please, no one out in the sticks there try to tell me about the Brits inventing Punk, and Yeah, right...not. MC5 (1969, Detroit), Iggy Pop (1973, Detroit)...Kick out the jams brothers and

Re: Who feigned Roger Rabbit?

2003-01-30 Thread Jim Choate
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Tim May wrote: This is a terribly important point, and failure to understand this point is the source of more disagreements than I can count. What if everyone thought that way? (Fallacy, as my actions will NOT affect the choices of others, a situation most evident in

Re: Who feigned Roger Rabbit?

2003-01-30 Thread Jim Choate
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Harmon Seaver wrote: Well, yes, but the thread is primarily about the destructive effects of subsidy. Sort of fantasizing what it would be in a libertarian dream world, I guess. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: the news from bush's speech...H-power

2003-01-30 Thread Jim Choate
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, James A. Donald wrote: -- On 30 Jan 2003 at 11:31, Eugen Leitl wrote: I'm not arguing pro strong state. I'm merely saying that the tax funded ivory tower RD is complementary in scope to privately funded research. If 95% of it is wasted (and lacking libertarian

Re: the news from bush's speech...H-power

2003-01-30 Thread Jim Choate
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Howie Goodell wrote: Tim May wrote: For example, the space program. The Moon Flag Planting cost about 100,000 slave-lives (about $125 thousand milliion in today's dollars) to finance. It distorted the market for things like single stage to orbit, which might have

re: handhelds and crypto anarchy

2003-01-30 Thread Jim Choate
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Michael Cardenas wrote: A far mroe exciting idea to me is how handhelds like palms, ipaqs, etc, could beused to transfer digital anonymous cash. They seem like perfect delivery vehicles. Say, secret agent X meets congressman Y in a dark alley somewhere to give him a

Re: the news from bush's speech...H-power

2003-01-30 Thread Jim Choate
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Eric Cordian wrote: Ovshinsky, the amorphous semiconductor guy, developed a relatively efficient photovoltaic film that could be manufactured by continuous extrusion by a simple machine. For some reason, that never hit the big time either. He had several problems in

Re: the news from bush's speech...H-power

2003-01-30 Thread Jim Choate
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, James A. Donald wrote: -- On 30 Jan 2003 at 11:31, Eugen Leitl wrote: I'm not arguing pro strong state. I'm merely saying that the tax funded ivory tower RD is complementary in scope to privately funded research. If 95% of it is wasted (and lacking libertarian

Re: Who feigned Roger Rabbit?

2003-01-30 Thread Jim Choate
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Tim May wrote: This is a terribly important point, and failure to understand this point is the source of more disagreements than I can count. What if everyone thought that way? (Fallacy, as my actions will NOT affect the choices of others, a situation most evident in

Re: the news from bush's speech...H-power

2003-01-30 Thread Jim Choate
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Howie Goodell wrote: Tim May wrote: For example, the space program. The Moon Flag Planting cost about 100,000 slave-lives (about $125 thousand milliion in today's dollars) to finance. It distorted the market for things like single stage to orbit, which might have

Re: DNA evidence countermeasures?

2003-01-29 Thread Jim Choate
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Major Variola (ret) wrote: Get some scurf from expensive D.C. restaurants. PCRAmplify it up if you And be sure to open it -only- at the crime scene. If the investigator could grab a sample of the same mix of DNA at some other location that the suspect visits then they'd

re: handhelds and crypto anarchy

2003-01-29 Thread Jim Choate
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Michael Cardenas wrote: A far mroe exciting idea to me is how handhelds like palms, ipaqs, etc, could beused to transfer digital anonymous cash. They seem like perfect delivery vehicles. Say, secret agent X meets congressman Y in a dark alley somewhere to give him a

Re: the news from bush's speech...H-power

2003-01-29 Thread Jim Choate
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Eric Cordian wrote: Ovshinsky, the amorphous semiconductor guy, developed a relatively efficient photovoltaic film that could be manufactured by continuous extrusion by a simple machine. For some reason, that never hit the big time either. He had several problems in

Re: Palm Pilot Handshake

2003-01-29 Thread Jim Choate
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Tyler Durden wrote: Yo! Anyone out there in codeville know if the following is possible? Yes, but there are caveats. What I mean is, Let's say some disgruntled and generic crypto-kook (let's call him, say,...'Tyler Durden') has been signing his (tiring) cyber-missives

Re: DNA evidence countermeasures?

2003-01-29 Thread Jim Choate
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Major Variola (ret) wrote: Get some scurf from expensive D.C. restaurants. PCRAmplify it up if you And be sure to open it -only- at the crime scene. If the investigator could grab a sample of the same mix of DNA at some other location that the suspect visits then they'd

Physicist proposes deeper layer of reality (fwd)

2003-01-15 Thread Jim Choate
http://www.nature.com/nsu/030106/030106-6.html -- We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. Criswell, Plan 9 from

Yahoo! News - Transmeta to Embed Security Features in Processor(fwd)

2003-01-14 Thread Jim Choate
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2cid=569ncid=738e=1u=/nm/20030114/tc_nm/tech_transmeta_dc -- We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our

China Strengthens Supervision of RMB Payments (fwd)

2003-01-14 Thread Jim Choate
http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200301/14/eng20030114_110120.shtml -- We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives.

Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary

2003-01-12 Thread Jim Choate
On Sat, 11 Jan 2003, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote: On Sat, 11 Jan 2003, Bill Stewart wrote: Any time you post to a list of a bunch of people you don't know, you might be posting to a list of a bunch of people you don't like. Reading the archives sometimes helps. A (hopefully) helpful hint for

Gun Ownership in America, It's bigger than the 2nd

2003-01-12 Thread Jim Choate
From: Jim Choate [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Constitutional analysis of the right to bear arms Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 20:07:32 -0500 (CDT) A Review of The Constitution and The Use of Force: -- [Here is where the federal government is given the job

Guardian Unlimited Observer | Comment | Andrew Rawnsley: Even themegapower needs friends (fwd)

2003-01-12 Thread Jim Choate
http://observer.co.uk/comment/story/0,6903,873008,00.html -- We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. Criswell,

washingtonpost.com || Bush To Name Tech Security Leaders (fwd)

2003-01-12 Thread Jim Choate
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 13:20:12 -0500 (EST) Subject: washingtonpost.com || Bush To Name Tech Security Leaders http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A34171-2003Jan9.html?referer=email snip One senior intelligence officer said Clapper faces a

Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary

2003-01-12 Thread Jim Choate
On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, Tyler Durden wrote: For all I know, I've been posting on a list haunted by a bunch of crypto-white supremists (crypto, as in secret, hidden). And if that's the case, then I want to know. Figured I'd ask for clarification on this issue. (And from some of May's comments in

Re: QM, EPR, A/B

2003-01-12 Thread Jim Choate
On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, Tyler Durden wrote: Replying to Blah Jim Choate wrote... It's called relativity because it assumes no absolute frame against which speeds must be referenced. Wrong. OK, Senior Choate, Pot, Kettle, Black. You should consider asking Tim for membership in the CACL

Gun Ownership in America, It's bigger than the 2nd

2003-01-12 Thread Jim Choate
From: Jim Choate [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Constitutional analysis of the right to bear arms Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 20:07:32 -0500 (CDT) A Review of The Constitution and The Use of Force: -- [Here is where the federal government is given the job

Cities Pass Resolutions Saying Terrorism Fight Must Not DestroyCivil Liberties (fwd)

2003-01-10 Thread Jim Choate
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAV51JRRAD.html -- We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. Criswell, Plan 9 from

Re: Subject: CDR: Re: QM, EPR, A/B

2003-01-10 Thread Jim Choate
On Mon, 6 Jan 2003, blah wrote: From: Jim Choate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 4 Jan 2003, blah wrote: Not from the photons perspective, from a photons perspective there is -no- time. A photon has no perspective. Yes it does. It is a particle and it interacts with the rest

Re: Let there be Blah

2003-01-10 Thread Jim Choate
On Mon, 6 Jan 2003, Anonymous wrote: As a (fellow) trained physicst, do you actually believe that quantum-encrypted signals are truly secure as a byproduct of basic physical law, or do even YOU believe that QM is merely a useful calculational tool, No 'label' is ever the thing it labels. QM

Re: Quantum suicide without suicide

2003-01-10 Thread Jim Choate
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Tim May wrote: -- Newcomb's Paradox (discussed in Pearl, Joyce, Nozick, etc.) This is no paradox, it is a silly question with an obvious answer that a lot of smart people have wasted a lot of time over. You mug the alien and take both boxes. Hence if the alien could

Re: Let there be Blah

2003-01-10 Thread Jim Choate
On Mon, 6 Jan 2003, blah wrote: Blah wrote quite an excellent post. In fact, I've met few physics PhDs which would have been able to respond so well. So needless to say, my curiosity is peaked concerning who Blah is in the real world. (Tim May, Thanks. It's nice to run into

Examples of Paradoxes...

2003-01-09 Thread Jim Choate
Axiomatic Set Theory P. Suppes ISBN 0-486-61630-4 (Dover) $12 US ToC Excerpt... 1. Introduction 1.1 Set Theory and the Foundation of Mathematics 1.2 Logic and Notation 1.3 Axiom Schema of Abstraction and Russell's Paradox 1.4 More Paradoxes

Re: Let there be Blah

2003-01-09 Thread Jim Choate
On Mon, 6 Jan 2003, Anonymous wrote: As a (fellow) trained physicst, do you actually believe that quantum-encrypted signals are truly secure as a byproduct of basic physical law, or do even YOU believe that QM is merely a useful calculational tool, No 'label' is ever the thing it labels. QM

Re: Singularity ( was Re: Policing Bioterror Research )

2003-01-09 Thread Jim Choate
On Mon, 6 Jan 2003, Tim May wrote: People, Please don't quote a long article and then bottom-post a few comments. Or top-post a few comments. In fact, the best idea is to only quote enough to remind other readers what you are commenting on. It's not a matter of bandwidth, it's a matter of

Re: Let there be Blah

2003-01-09 Thread Jim Choate
On Mon, 6 Jan 2003, blah wrote: Blah wrote quite an excellent post. In fact, I've met few physics PhDs which would have been able to respond so well. So needless to say, my curiosity is peaked concerning who Blah is in the real world. (Tim May, Thanks. It's nice to run into

Re: Quantum suicide without suicide

2003-01-09 Thread Jim Choate
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Tim May wrote: -- Newcomb's Paradox (discussed in Pearl, Joyce, Nozick, etc.) This is no paradox, it is a silly question with an obvious answer that a lot of smart people have wasted a lot of time over. You mug the alien and take both boxes. Hence if the alien could

Re: CDR: Re: Television

2003-01-09 Thread Jim Choate
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Anonymous wrote: Sam Ritchie sneered: Hmmm, is someone a wittle upset over a certain recent textual reprimand? No need for petty schoolyard insults, May. What happened to the new year's resolution you made? ~S Am I just imagining it, or is there a definite

Re: Definitions, Proofs, Derivations

2003-01-09 Thread Jim Choate
On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Ken Hirsch wrote: In general you have to consider the whole system, including derivation rules, not just the axioms, although you can certain start with a set of axioms like: { x=1, x=2} or, come to think of it, { 1=2 } You'd first have to define what '=' means, that

Re: Television

2003-01-09 Thread Jim Choate
On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Todd Boyle wrote: And anyway, you don't come into a community that is working based on certain shared assumptions, and start questioning the assumptions. Actually that is -exactly- what one should do. No man is the communities nigger. Or as Decarte once said: If you

News: Congress takes on spam, copyrights, taxes (fwd)

2003-01-08 Thread Jim Choate
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1106-979623.html -- We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. Criswell, Plan 9 from

Re: CDR: Re: Definitions, Proofs, Derivations

2003-01-08 Thread Jim Choate
On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Sarad AV wrote: there will be no inconsistency in a formal axiomatic systems Can't prove a negative, even in a formal system. -- We are all interested in the future for that is where you and

Re: Television

2003-01-08 Thread Jim Choate
On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Todd Boyle wrote: And anyway, you don't come into a community that is working based on certain shared assumptions, and start questioning the assumptions. Actually that is -exactly- what one should do. No man is the communities nigger. Or as Decarte once said: If you

Re: Definitions, Proofs, Derivations

2003-01-08 Thread Jim Choate
On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Ken Hirsch wrote: In general you have to consider the whole system, including derivation rules, not just the axioms, although you can certain start with a set of axioms like: { x=1, x=2} or, come to think of it, { 1=2 } You'd first have to define what '=' means, that

Re: CDR: Re: Television

2003-01-08 Thread Jim Choate
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Anonymous wrote: Sam Ritchie sneered: Hmmm, is someone a wittle upset over a certain recent textual reprimand? No need for petty schoolyard insults, May. What happened to the new year's resolution you made? ~S Am I just imagining it, or is there a definite

Austin Cypherpunks Monthly Meeting - Tue. Jan. 14

2003-01-07 Thread Jim Choate
Time:Jan. 14, 2003 Second Tuesday of each month 7:00 - 9:00 pm (or later) Location:Central Market HEB Cafe 38th and N. Lamar Weather permitting we meet in the un-covered tables.

PhysicsWeb - Finding the flaw in falsifiability (fwd)

2003-01-07 Thread Jim Choate
http://physicsweb.org/article/world/15/12/2 -- We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. Criswell, Plan 9 from

www.oreilly.com -- Anticryptography The Next Frontier in ComputerScience (fwd)

2003-01-07 Thread Jim Choate
http://www.oreilly.com/news/seti_0201.html -- We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. Criswell, Plan 9 from

Austin Cypherpunks Monthly Meeting - Tue. Jan. 14

2003-01-07 Thread Jim Choate
Time:Jan. 14, 2003 Second Tuesday of each month 7:00 - 9:00 pm (or later) Location:Central Market HEB Cafe 38th and N. Lamar Weather permitting we meet in the un-covered tables.

[eff-austin] Government Technology Conference in Austin, TX (fwd)

2003-01-06 Thread Jim Choate
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 04:07:23 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [eff-austin] Government Technology Conference in Austin, TX From : Government Technology Conference [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject : Free Keynotes, Free Tech Expo Date :

Inferno: Risks: Rising Vigilantism (fwd)

2003-01-06 Thread Jim Choate
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 22:53:32 -0600 Subject: Risks: Rising Vigilantism From Risks Digest 22.47, [ http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/22.47.html ] -- Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 08:38:53 -0500

Spooky at Any Speed (fwd)

2003-01-05 Thread Jim Choate
http://focus.aps.org/story/v10/st29 -- We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. Criswell, Plan 9 from Outer

The Register - Perens, Prentice deliver Open Source books (fwd)

2003-01-05 Thread Jim Choate
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/28723.html -- We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. Criswell, Plan 9

Slashdot | Hollywood's DRM Agenda Moving Forward (fwd)

2003-01-05 Thread Jim Choate
http://slashdot.org/articles/03/01/05/1433211.shtml?tid=97 -- We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. Criswell,

Re: Subject: CDR: Re: QM, EPR, A/B

2003-01-04 Thread Jim Choate
On Sat, 4 Jan 2003, blah wrote: 'instantaneously' from -whose- perspective? From anyone's perspective. Not from the photons perspective, from a photons perspective there is -no- time. It is clear from Relativity that as -anything- approaches the speed of light it's mass grows larger

Re: CDR: Re: Liars Paradox Fermi paradox

2003-01-04 Thread Jim Choate
On Sat, 4 Jan 2003, Sarad AV wrote: There has been much speculation around Fermi's famous question: Where are they? Why haven't we seen any traces of intelligent extraterrestrial life?. One way in which this question has been answered (Brin 1983) is that we have not seen any traces of

Re: CDR: Re: Many Worlds Version of Fermi Paradox

2003-01-04 Thread Jim Choate
On Sat, 4 Jan 2003, Sarad AV wrote: how do you know that apples and oranges are not same or are same? Its the way you look at it. No, ever see Apple and Oranges cross-breed? -THEY- look at it that way too. So there -is- something there to the cladistic viewpoint. --

Rhizome: thing.net evicted from Internet (fwd)

2003-01-04 Thread Jim Choate
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 12:42:45 -0600 Subject: Rhizome: thing.net evicted from Internet From Rhizome Digest 01.03.03: An unfortunately predictable follow up to the emails I posted earlier about the critical/parody works posted by the likes of the Yes Men

Rhizome: Konrad Becker Review (fwd)

2003-01-04 Thread Jim Choate
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 13:16:29 -0600 Subject: Rhizome: Konrad Becker Review + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + 8. Date: 12.29.02 From: McKenzie Wark ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Subject: konrad becker review Konrad Becker,

Definitions, Proofs, Derivations

2003-01-04 Thread Jim Choate
N-Person Game Theory: Concepts and Applications Anatol Rapoport ISBN 0-486-41455-8 (Dover) $13 US [SSZ: If you get this, also get his 2-Person Game Theory as well.] Excerpt from Introduction - Some Mathematical Tools, pp. 11 Game theory is properly a branch of mathematics. As such it is

RISKS: How to disappear in America (fwd)

2003-01-04 Thread Jim Choate
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 11:21:35 -0600 Subject: RISKS: How to disappear in America From Risks Digest 22.46, [ http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/22.46.html ] Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 03:28:41 GMT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rev. Fredric L. Rice) Subject: Re:

Re: CDR: Re: Liars Paradox Fermi paradox

2003-01-04 Thread Jim Choate
On Sat, 4 Jan 2003, Mike Rosing wrote: On Sat, 4 Jan 2003, Sarad AV wrote: So does the fermi paradox mean that there are no extra terrestrials.Can't we throw away this paradox like every other paradox? It's easier to assume we don't know what we're looking for. That's not a paradox

Supreme Court ends stay on DVD ruling (fwd)

2003-01-04 Thread Jim Choate
http://www.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/03/01/03/030103hndecss.xml?s=IDGNS -- We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives.

Re: Subject: CDR: Re: QM, EPR, A/B

2003-01-04 Thread Jim Choate
On Sat, 4 Jan 2003, blah wrote: 'instantaneously' from -whose- perspective? From anyone's perspective. Not from the photons perspective, from a photons perspective there is -no- time. It is clear from Relativity that as -anything- approaches the speed of light it's mass grows larger

Re: CDR: Re: Many Worlds Version of Fermi Paradox

2003-01-04 Thread Jim Choate
On Sat, 4 Jan 2003, Sarad AV wrote: how do you know that apples and oranges are not same or are same? Its the way you look at it. No, ever see Apple and Oranges cross-breed? -THEY- look at it that way too. So there -is- something there to the cladistic viewpoint. --

Re: QM, A-B, and the Z

2003-01-04 Thread Jim Choate
On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote: And no, Relativity and QM have -not- been joined into a -single cohesive theory-. You have to qualify this. No, I don't. General relativity has not been unified with quantum mechanics in any way that is universally

Re: CDR: Re: Liars Paradox Fermi paradox

2003-01-04 Thread Jim Choate
On Sat, 4 Jan 2003, Sarad AV wrote: There has been much speculation around Fermi's famous question: Where are they? Why haven't we seen any traces of intelligent extraterrestrial life?. One way in which this question has been answered (Brin 1983) is that we have not seen any traces of

Re: CDR: Re: Liars Paradox Fermi paradox

2003-01-04 Thread Jim Choate
On Sat, 4 Jan 2003, Mike Rosing wrote: On Sat, 4 Jan 2003, Sarad AV wrote: So does the fermi paradox mean that there are no extra terrestrials.Can't we throw away this paradox like every other paradox? It's easier to assume we don't know what we're looking for. That's not a paradox

Re: Liars Paradox

2003-01-03 Thread Jim Choate
On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Sarad AV wrote: The Liar Paradox is an argument that arrives at a contradiction by reasoning about a Liar Sentence. The most familiar Liar Sentence is the following self-referential sentence: As it says-they are self referecial statements.What do we learn from the

Re: CDR: Re: Many Worlds Version of Fermi Paradox

2003-01-03 Thread Jim Choate
On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Sarad AV wrote: As you already see-what you say is correct for your definition of proof and axiom. Here is the fundamental error in your thinking, you are trying to argue apples and oranges. As my comments alude to, what you are doing is trying to argue geometry using two

U.S. asserts right to enter Pakistan (fwd)

2003-01-03 Thread Jim Choate
http://www.msnbc.com/news/854409.asp?0si=- -- We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. Criswell, Plan 9 from

Sniper tips to aid hunt for firearms -- The Washington Times (fwd)

2003-01-03 Thread Jim Choate
http://www.washtimes.com/metro/20030103-95731792.htm -- We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. Criswell, Plan

Physics News Update 619 (fwd)

2003-01-03 Thread Jim Choate
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:37:30 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Physics News Update 619 PHYSICS NEWS UPDATE The American Institute of Physics Bulletin of Physics News Number 619 January 3, 2003 by Phillip F. Schewe, Ben Stein,

Re: QM, A-B, and the Z

2003-01-03 Thread Jim Choate
On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote: And no, Relativity and QM have -not- been joined into a -single cohesive theory-. You have to qualify this. No, I don't. General relativity has not been unified with quantum mechanics in any way that is universally

Re: Many Worlds Version of Fermi Paradox

2003-01-03 Thread Jim Choate
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Sarad AV wrote: An axiom is an improvable statement which is accepted as true. An axiom is a statement which is -assumed to be universaly required-. That is -not- equivalent to 'true' (eg A point has only position is not 'true' but a -definition- which is neither true or

Re: Liars Paradox

2003-01-03 Thread Jim Choate
On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Sarad AV wrote: The Liar Paradox is an argument that arrives at a contradiction by reasoning about a Liar Sentence. The most familiar Liar Sentence is the following self-referential sentence: As it says-they are self referecial statements.What do we learn from the

Re: QM, etc...

2003-01-03 Thread Jim Choate
On Wed, 1 Jan 2003, A.Melon wrote: If you still want to say there's some kind of hole in quantum theory, then are you saying that if we fix this hole, QM will bve able to predict experimental outcomes to, say 20 decimals rather than 10? (QM is by far the most sucesful physical theory ever

Re: re:constant encryped stream

2003-01-03 Thread Jim Choate
On Wed, 1 Jan 2003, Eugen Leitl wrote: On Tue, 31 Dec 2002, Thomas Shaddack wrote: Is there a way to RELIABLY find the mail was opened? I have a related question. I have a little server sitting in a wall closet. Does anyone have an easy solution (preferably low tech) for figuring out

Re: biological systems and cryptography

2003-01-03 Thread Jim Choate
On Wed, 1 Jan 2003, Eugen Leitl wrote: On Wed, 1 Jan 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the latest news on Adelman's cryptological soup? Once his DNA crypto was touted as a substantial breakthrough for crypto, though since overshadowed by quantum crypto smoke-blowing. DNA computes

Re: How Free is the Free Market?

2003-01-03 Thread Jim Choate
On Wed, 1 Jan 2003, Matthew X wrote: Chompsky makes the point that the state underwrites the so called free market. As we are all libertarians,(cept shoate) here we should be doing our utmost to expose,ridicule,attack and destroy the state,nest pas? You're right, I don't want to get rid of

Re: CDR: Re: Many Worlds Version of Fermi Paradox

2003-01-03 Thread Jim Choate
On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Sarad AV wrote: As you already see-what you say is correct for your definition of proof and axiom. Here is the fundamental error in your thinking, you are trying to argue apples and oranges. As my comments alude to, what you are doing is trying to argue geometry using two

Re: re:constant encryped stream

2003-01-03 Thread Jim Choate
On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Thomas Shaddack wrote: I have a related question. I have a little server sitting in a wall closet. Does anyone have an easy solution (preferably low tech) for figuring out that the closet door has been opened? A switch that shutdowns the server, and a passphrase on

Re: Many Worlds Version of Fermi Paradox

2003-01-02 Thread Jim Choate
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Sarad AV wrote: An axiom is an improvable statement which is accepted as true. An axiom is a statement which is -assumed to be universaly required-. That is -not- equivalent to 'true' (eg A point has only position is not 'true' but a -definition- which is neither true or

Re: Laboratory experiments in economics with paid human subjects.

2003-01-02 Thread Jim Choate
On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Matthew X wrote: http://cash.ucsc.edu/ Came to from seeing this... A field known as 'experimental economics' has extended game theory into two specific 'minigames': the 'Ultimatum Game' and the 'Public Goods Game,' he writes. Research using these games as probes

Re: QM, etc...

2003-01-02 Thread Jim Choate
On Wed, 1 Jan 2003, A.Melon wrote: If you still want to say there's some kind of hole in quantum theory, then are you saying that if we fix this hole, QM will bve able to predict experimental outcomes to, say 20 decimals rather than 10? (QM is by far the most sucesful physical theory ever

Re: re:constant encryped stream

2003-01-02 Thread Jim Choate
On Wed, 1 Jan 2003, Eugen Leitl wrote: On Tue, 31 Dec 2002, Thomas Shaddack wrote: Is there a way to RELIABLY find the mail was opened? I have a related question. I have a little server sitting in a wall closet. Does anyone have an easy solution (preferably low tech) for figuring out

Re: How Free is the Free Market?

2003-01-02 Thread Jim Choate
On Wed, 1 Jan 2003, Matthew X wrote: Chompsky makes the point that the state underwrites the so called free market. As we are all libertarians,(cept shoate) here we should be doing our utmost to expose,ridicule,attack and destroy the state,nest pas? You're right, I don't want to get rid of

Re: re:constant encryped stream

2003-01-02 Thread Jim Choate
On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Thomas Shaddack wrote: I have a related question. I have a little server sitting in a wall closet. Does anyone have an easy solution (preferably low tech) for figuring out that the closet door has been opened? A switch that shutdowns the server, and a passphrase on

Supreme Court stays California DVD ruling - Computerworld (fwd)

2003-01-02 Thread Jim Choate
http://www.computerworld.com/governmenttopics/government/legalissues/story/0,10801,77205,00.html -- We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives.

Judge Rules Against Homeland Security Office in Privacy Suit - fromTampa Bay O (fwd)

2003-01-02 Thread Jim Choate
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAJ9C58HAD.html -- We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. Criswell, Plan 9 from

'Dark energy' dominates the universe (fwd)

2003-01-02 Thread Jim Choate
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2003-01/dc-ed123002.php -- We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives.

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