Burn marks

2002-03-20 Thread matthew X
Reading 'burn rate' by michael wolff,funniest and smartest papperbok since ,primary colors,(so far,)sample line,Dress british,think yiddish.from a vulture capitalist. In Wired today... The crowd of approximately 150, assembled in a hotel ballroom just south of Central Park, did hear some

We are everywhere...even Dusseldorf.

2002-03-20 Thread matthew X
This is a second paper written for a working group for a conference in Duesseldorf, Germany. Anti Globalisation, World Wide Class Struggle In the last two years (since Seattle) the left, in Europe as elsewhere, have been successful in a few noteworthy mobilisations, that would not have been

We are everywhere...even NYC

2002-03-20 Thread matthew X
crazy, horrible things - http://www.notbored.org/crazy.html Right and left there are other things happening just as bad -- crazy, horrible things too goofy and outlandish to cry about and too much true to laugh about. Ken Kesey, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, 1962. The week beginning Monday

Its not over...it hasnt even really started.

2002-03-20 Thread matthew X
IT9S NOT OVER TILL THE FAT LADY SINGS All those Western political commentators who stated that September the 11th marked the end of anti-globalisation protests have egg on their faces. On the weekend over 500,000 protestors demonstrated against the European Union meeting in Barcelona that has

We are everywhere...even texas.

2002-03-20 Thread matthew X
THE TX ABC MEETING: NOTES MARCH 8th and 9th '02 Attending: Houston ABC, Dallas/Ft. Worth ABC, Austin ABC,and folks from San Antonio that were interested in started an ABC. FYI: Some of the groups were new to ABC work so this was also an educational event as well as a goal to solidifying TX

Memo to RSA head office;Sacked Chinese murder their bosses

2002-03-20 Thread matthew X
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/printFriendly/0,,1-3-240732,00.html March 19, 2002 Sacked Chinese murder their bosses From Oliver August in Xiannin. WORKERS in Chinas industrial heartland have started killing their bosses in protest at mass redundancies. In three recent, gruesome cases, managers

Re:Meta-Meta-Meta-Meta ejaculation

2002-03-20 Thread Ken Brown
An entity mail-headed as Morlock Elloi wrote: [...] For asexual approach, block these: [...] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] The jei address hasn't been used to spam CPx for some while now. It looked like they stopped when asked to. Also there have been a interesting relevant messages on other

Fuck microsoft.com

2002-03-20 Thread matthew X
Microsoft 'killed Dell Linux' - States By Andrew Orlowski in San Francisco Posted: 19/03/2002 at 09:33 GMT Microsoft sharpshooter Joachim Kempin, who was convicted of illegally shooting antelope in Montana in 1998, has been turning his guns on a more familiar target: Microsoft's own OEM

Mongo dragged from lake?

2002-03-20 Thread matthew X
SACRAMENTO: Authorities have recovered a fourth body believed dumped by the mob in a deep lake. Two bodies were pulled on Sunday from beneath a bridge in New Melones Lake, a reservoir in the Sierra Nevada foothills. A third was found under a second bridge over the lake on Monday, and a fourth

Blinded by the right.

2002-03-20 Thread matthew X
BLINDED BY THE RIGHT The Conscience of an Ex-Conservative By David Brock Crown. 336 pp. $25.95 Say what you want about David Brock, but he sure knows his clothes. In his new memoir, Blinded by the Right, the now flagrantly repentant right-wing attack dog recalls that when he first worked at

Re: More lies from Jimbo

2002-03-20 Thread matthew X
Just confirms my feeling that most of the Americans here wouldn't recognise a socialist or a communist if one bit them. Maybe there is something in your early upbringing that makes you invincibly ignorant to the necessary concepts. Maybe thats no bad thing.The necessary concepts are

Re: More lies from Jimbo

2002-03-20 Thread Jim Choate
On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Ken Brown wrote: And I still think that his continual misspellings are Freudian slips. Actually it's dyslexia, and since this is in informal forum... And my definition of 'socialism' and 'fascism' come right out of the same textbook you use Ken. I post the URL's to the

Re: More lies from Jimbo

2002-03-20 Thread Jim Choate
On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, matthew X wrote: Texan Jim is /not/. They might both be looneys (though I suspect Jim isn't), Being a republican in Texas and contributing to this list makes him an uber looney (and APster candidate.) Me a Republican?...now that's funny. I'm a staunch indy, I'll

kuro5hin.org || technology and culture, from the trenches

2002-03-20 Thread Jim Choate
http://www.Kuro5hin.org/story/2002/3/18/64037/9706 -- -- Are we to have a censor whose imprimatur shall say what books shall be sold and what we may buy?

kuro5hin.org || Canadian Oil Company Allegedly Requested Assault on Villages

2002-03-20 Thread Jim Choate
http://www.Kuro5hin.org/story/2002/3/20/0212/48421 -- -- Are we to have a censor whose imprimatur shall say what books shall be sold and what we may buy?

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2002-03-20 Thread debthelp
HATE DEBT? GET DEBT FREE FAST AND EASY!! Sometimes things beyond our control cause financial hardships. Sometimes there's just not enough money to stretch from one payday to the next. Thank goodness there is an honorable way out.

Re: Anyone going to OSS'02?

2002-03-20 Thread Declan McCullagh
It's local, so I may go. -Declan On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 02:37:41PM -0500, Greg Newby wrote: I'm considering going to OSS'02 (May 8-10 in Rosslyn, VA). http://www.oss.net/OSS02 This is Robert Steele's organization -- he's the guy who advocates LESS secrecy, and has done some cost

Why socialists and commies hang out on this list.

2002-03-20 Thread jamesd
-- On 19 Mar 2002 at 9:21, Sunder wrote: So why do you [Jim Choate] run a CDR node? If you're claiming that the ideals that Erich Hughes and Tim May forged are CACL theories and you disagree with them, then why run a such a mailing list node? Back in the big period of revolutions, the

Press sues Utah gov for shredding his email

2002-03-20 Thread Khoder bin Hakkin
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAS2NLE1ZC.html Listrelev: accountability, email vs. paper, disappearing ink News Organizations Sue Utah Governor for Deleting His E-Mail, Contending It Is Public Record The Associated Press

FAA chief not at ease with new scanners

2002-03-20 Thread James Choate
http://www.post-gazette.com/nation/20020320garveynat3p3.asp

Supremes likely to suspend 4th amendment

2002-03-20 Thread Khoder bin Hakkin
http://latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-032002scotus.story Drug Tests at Schools Argued at High Court Choice excerpts: If there's a [drug] problem of a serious sort, why can't they do this? Breyer asked a lawyer for the American Civil Liberties Union. Because of the 4th Amendment and its

Re: fincen visiting web sites?

2002-03-20 Thread Anonymous
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 12:19:10AM +, Thaddeus J. Beier wrote: we had a visit from 152.121.36.65 which is gateway-fincen.uscg.mil Fincen is, of course, the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network, Or Finance Center, US Coast Guard, more likely.

Re: More lies from Jimbo

2002-03-20 Thread Sunder
On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Jim Choate wrote: On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Sunder wrote: That's funny, but whose masked faces were on Wired 1.2? Certainly yours was not one of them. Claiming that you're doing anything other than running a CDR node (which you piss in) is of course false, which you

List analysis.

2002-03-20 Thread Trei, Peter
Just for grins and giggles, I've tried to analyse the traffic flow on cpunks for the past 24 hours - 2pm 19 April to 2 pm 20 April, (EST), off of the minder CDR. Relatively speaking, it's been a very quiet period. [These numbers are all *after* deleting ~10 messages which were pure spam, of the

Re: List analysis.

2002-03-20 Thread dmolnar
On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Trei, Peter wrote: You might want to try the same little game - in a 24 hour period, how many posts were you *glad* you saw? Not very many. Hey look, it's been a while, but I don't remember anyone saying much about CodeCon from last month. It happened. It was

Re: Choate read and understand then take your node and fuck off

2002-03-20 Thread tinman
On 20 Mar 2002 at 9:46, Sunder wrote: On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Jim Choate wrote: On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Sunder wrote: That's funny, but whose masked faces were on Wired 1.2? Certainly yours was not one of them. Claiming that you're doing anything other than running a CDR node (which

Slashdot | Spammer Sues List Broker

2002-03-20 Thread James Choate
http://slashdot.org/articles/02/03/20/1920225.shtml?tid=111

Re: List analysis.

2002-03-20 Thread Igor Chudov
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 03:18:39PM -0500, dmolnar wrote: On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Trei, Peter wrote: You might want to try the same little game - in a 24 hour period, how many posts were you *glad* you saw? There were many posts I am glad I did not see, as Choate and ssz and all news

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disconnect choate list from other lists?

2002-03-20 Thread Adam Back
Given that Jim Choate has a different view of events and the purpose of the list to it seems just about everyone else, why don't we just disconnect his lists from the other lists, then he and perhpas mattd and a few other noisy types can go inhabit Jim's list and Jim will surely be content to

CodeCon

2002-03-20 Thread georgemw
On 20 Mar 2002 at 15:18, dmolnar wrote: Hey look, it's been a while, but I don't remember anyone saying much about CodeCon from last month. It happened. It was cypherpunkly. People wrote code. I can get the MP3s over Bram Cohen's BitTorrent. This is really cool. Unfortunately there's still

Radical thinker Chomsky doesn't fail

2002-03-20 Thread Steve Schear
Alameda Times-Star Online Radical thinker Chomsky doesn't fail March 20, 2002 By William Brand STAFF WRITER BERKELEY THE UNITED STATES is hardly a country to declare a war on terrorism, renowned linguist and radical thinker Noam Chomsky told a rapt audience at the University of California's

Re: disconnect choate list from other lists?

2002-03-20 Thread Igor Chudov
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 09:36:58PM +, Adam Back wrote: Given that Jim Choate has a different view of events and the purpose of the list to it seems just about everyone else, why don't we just disconnect his lists from the other lists, then he and perhpas mattd and a few other noisy

Books, Ideas, the List, and Getting Back to Basics

2002-03-20 Thread Tim May
On Wednesday, March 20, 2002, at 12:18 PM, dmolnar wrote: On the cypherpunk literature front, I just finished reading _The Jazz_ by Melissa Scott. The one reference to cypherpunks is sort of tossed off, but the book as a whole is a fun read. I'm reading Greg Egan's SF novel, Distress.

Re: List analysis.

2002-03-20 Thread georgemw
On 20 Mar 2002 at 14:48, Trei, Peter wrote: 24 Of the 62 messages, a total of 7 were signal, IMHO. Your opinion will of course, be different than mine, and I have no intention of trying to explain or justify my classifications to others. Nonetheless,

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2002-03-20 Thread TBA
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Re: Choate read this and understand it you fuckimg moron

2002-03-20 Thread Jim Choate
Just demonstrates the general CACL insensitivity to the concept of property, unless it's theirs. If it really doesn't matter which node why have you got your panties in such a wad? Rather speaks for itself. On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 20 Mar 2002 at 9:46, Sunder wrote:

Re: CDR: Re: List analysis.

2002-03-20 Thread Jim Choate
So, in effect your admitting you sit there with your fingers in your ears going lalalalalalalalalalalalalalala... On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Igor Chudov wrote: On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 03:18:39PM -0500, dmolnar wrote: On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Trei, Peter wrote: You might want to try the same

state censorship, copyright: My Life, in Arabic

2002-03-20 Thread Khoder bin Hakkin
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,48341,00.html The Arabic Translation of Hitler's anti-Semitic manifesto Mein Kampf, which has been a bestseller in the Palestinian territories for some time, has begun to turn up in bookshops in London where they

distributed filtering with server-side NoCeM's (Re: disconnect choate list from other lists?)

2002-03-20 Thread Adam Back
Igor wrote: Would not be an act of disconnecting other nodes be an act of proprietorship also? I personally think that a separate filtered list would be a better solution, more choice and all. Yes perhaps. There is a technology, and in theory it should work, and was designed for

Re: Books, Ideas, the List, and Getting Back to Basics

2002-03-20 Thread Adam Back
1) few will read it I think coderpunks has died -- John Gilmore had ISP problems. Perhaps if we could motivate some kind of distributed (and optionally subscribed-to) filtering as I described in previous article to Igor, cypherpunks might again be the preferred applied crypto strong cypherpunk

Re: List analysis.

2002-03-20 Thread Tim May
On Wednesday, March 20, 2002, at 02:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 20 Mar 2002 at 14:48, Trei, Peter wrote: 24 Of the 62 messages, a total of 7 were signal, IMHO. Your opinion will of course, be different than mine, and I have no intention of trying to

(warning: OT swan-song bickering) Re: Books, Ideas, the List, and Getting Back to Basics

2002-03-20 Thread Faustine
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[Mnet-devel] Experiences Deploying a Large Scale Emergent Network (fwd)

2002-03-20 Thread Jim Choate
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Re: CDR: Radical thinker Chomsky doesn't fail

2002-03-20 Thread Jim Choate
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2002-03-20 Thread Jim Choate
It's a start getting business out of government...or it's one hell of a smoke screen http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/03/20/campaign.finance/index.html -- -- There is less in this than meets the

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2002-03-20 Thread Jim Choate
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2002-03-20 Thread Jim Choate
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 00:40:33 -0800 From: Sandy Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Fwd: Secure peripheral cards] Roop Mukherjee [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am searching for some citable references about secure peripheral cards.