RE: Airport insanity

2004-10-18 Thread John Kelsey
From: James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Oct 16, 2004 7:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Airport insanity .. On 15 Oct 2004 at 16:32, Tyler Durden wrote: .. He might have looked odd from the photo you saw circulated in the press, but I'd bet a lot of money no one would have

RE: Airport insanity

2004-10-18 Thread James A. Donald
-- Thomas Shaddack: a. The probability ratios don't work out so that the overwhelming majority of people you throw off planes are innocent. James A. Donald: Provided the number of people you throw off planes is rather small, I don't see the problem. Thomas Shaddack wrote:

Re: Airport insanity

2004-10-18 Thread Steve Furlong
On Mon, 2004-10-18 at 15:17, Thomas Shaddack wrote: Pentagon protects their people by distance - being it by bombing from high altitude, or by using cruise missiles. Everybody uses the technology available to them. What's bad on it? Invariably, the side that uses the defensive measure -

RE: Airport insanity

2004-10-18 Thread James A. Donald
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004, James A. Donald wrote: People who are, for the most part, not like us are trying to kill people like us. Let us chuck all those people not-like-us off those planes where most of the passengers are people like us. Thomas Shaddack Define us? Easier to define them Us

RE: Airport insanity

2004-10-18 Thread R.A. Hettinga
At 12:07 PM -0700 10/18/04, James A. Donald wrote: On Mon, 18 Oct 2004, James A. Donald wrote: People who are, for the most part, not like us are trying to kill people like us. Let us chuck all those people not-like-us off those planes where most of the passengers are people like us.

Re: Airport insanity

2004-10-18 Thread Tyler Durden
A very large number of muslims, particularly arab muslims- a small minority in the US, a large minority or substantial majority in many muslim countries, continually seek to confront the infidel in a wide variety of ways, and interpret our politeness and care to avoid harming muslims as weakness

RE: Airport insanity

2004-10-18 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 16 Oct 2004 at 19:42, Adam wrote: First of all, there were 19 children killed in the OKC bombing. Were these children guilty of some crime worthy of being killed by a truck bomb? He was not targeting children. Second of all, you make it sound like McVeigh was just your

RE: Airport insanity

2004-10-18 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 04:01 PM 10/16/04 -0700, James A. Donald wrote: Tim McVeigh did not target innocents, nor was he a suicide bomber. Neither did M. Atta et al. target innocents, he targeted those who elected the Caesars. And they were not pursuing suicide (a Moslem sin), since they are enjoying a comfy

Re: Airport insanity..Ethnicity is Bullshit

2004-10-18 Thread James A. Donald
-- Tyler Durden Let's just state the obvious: September 11th occurred not because we had a few crazy Muslim fundamentalists out there that decided they hate our freedoms. The struck us because we've been fuckin' over a large swath of the Muslim (not only Arab) world for 100 years or so

Re: Airport insanity

2004-10-18 Thread Sunder
There is still of course the matter of the unexploded bombs in that building that were dug out, and that the ATF received a Don't come in to work page on their beepers, and the seize and classification of all surveilance video tapes from things like ATM's across the street.

Re: Airport insanity

2004-10-18 Thread James A. Donald
-- James A. Donald: Mc Veigh did not target innocents, and if he did target a plane full of innocents, perhaps in order to kill one guilty man on board, there is no way in hell he himself would be on that plane. John Kelsey Well, he targeted a building full of innocents, so he

Re: Airport insanity

2004-10-18 Thread Tyler Durden
/national/20041018-124854-2279r.htm : : Despite gaining their freedom by signing pledges to : : renounce violence, at least seven former prisoners : : of the United States at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, have : : returned to terrorism, at times with deadly : : consequences. Wow! Tortured

Re: Airport insanity

2004-10-18 Thread John Kelsey
From: James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Oct 16, 2004 7:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Airport insanity .. Oh, and every white American (recall numerous references to Mr. McVeigh) Mc Veigh did not target innocents, and if he did target a plane full of

Re: Airport insanity

2004-10-18 Thread John Kelsey
From: James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Oct 16, 2004 2:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Airport insanity For whatever reason, pictures of me always come out looking like some crazed religious fanatic. But that doesn't mean that I'm going to bomb anything. And I sure hope that

RE: Airport insanity

2004-10-18 Thread Sunder
I think you need to read this remake of the First they came for the commies poem. Short translation - whenever anyone's rights are being trampled upon, whether it affects you or not, you should protest. Goes along with one of the unsaid credos about cypherpunks: I absolutely disagree with

RE: Airport insanity

2004-10-18 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 07:42 PM 10/16/04 -0400, Adam wrote: First of all, there were 19 children killed in the OKC bombing. Were these children guilty of some crime worthy of being killed by a truck bomb? They were being used as human shields by the fedcriminals in the building. They were collateral damage, in the

RE: Airport insanity

2004-10-18 Thread John Young
James is wired to be unempathetic about victims, as was McVeigh, as are fearless military and criminal killers, as are national leaders of a yellow stripe who never taste the bitter end of their exculpatory spin. What makes the wire work is that they do not believe that what they do unto others

RE: Airport insanity

2004-10-18 Thread Thomas Shaddack
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004, James A. Donald wrote: a. The probability ratios don't work out so that the overwhelming majority of people you throw off planes are innocent. Provided the number of people you throw off planes is rather small, I don't see the problem. It isn't a problem for

RE: Airport insanity

2004-10-18 Thread Thomas Shaddack
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004, James A. Donald wrote: Thomas Shaddack wrote: It isn't a problem for you until it happens to you. Who knows when being interested in anon e-cash will become a ground to blacklist *you*. I know when it will happen. It will happen when people interested in anon

Re: Airport insanity..Ethnicity is Bullshit

2004-10-18 Thread Tyler Durden
You also seem to forget there is another potential factor - not only the visible one (ethnicity), but also one that isn't obvious to visual evaluation - religion. There is a significant black minority that inclines to Islam, some of them potentially radical. Do you want to suggest

Re: Airport insanity

2004-10-18 Thread Thomas Shaddack
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004, James A. Donald wrote: Sadre protected himself with Iraqi women and young children as human shields, showing that he expected the Pentagon to show more concern for Iraqi lives than he did. Pentagon protects their people by distance - being it by bombing from high

Re: Airport insanity

2004-10-18 Thread Thomas Shaddack
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004, James A. Donald wrote: -- James A. Donald: If you really look like the shoe bomber, then you should have to drive, or use public transport. Thomas Shaddack Ever tried to drive to Europe? Or to Hawaii? Hard biscuit Do I interpret this statement