Re: Torture done correctly is a terminal process

On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 09:33:39AM -0800, Greg Broiles wrote: > To flesh this out a little more - the judge was Stephen Trott, speaking on > September 18 2002 at the Commonwealth Club. Trott credits the torture > warrant idea to Alan Dershowitz, whom he describes as a good friend and a > "great civ

Re: DMCA Feedback

Note the rulemaking is limited. See below. --Declan http://news.com.com/2100-1023-966525.html >Because it won't affect researchers or companies that publish software >code that circumvents copy-protection technology, the practical impact >of the new rulemaking is limited. It could not have helped

Re: Onion Self-Censorship

On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 11:46:20PM -0800, Tim May wrote: > Web crawlers ("observers," in quantum mechanics lingo) saw the article > and indexed it is enough for me to beleve it was there, at least > temporarily. It was, and as of an hour or two ago it was still on the Onion's mobile.theonion.c

Re: Microsoft on Darknet

-- According to Microsoft, http://crypto.stanford.edu/DRM2002/darknet5.doc Darknet is being undermined by free riders. : : Peer-to-peer file sharing assumes that a : : significant fraction of users adhere to the : : somewhat post-capitalist idea of sacrificing their : : ow

RE: Aerosil digression

> Major Variola (ret)[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > What's UBIK? D'you mean Dr. Seuss' "Ooblek"? > Is Ooblek on the ITAR list? > Check out the UBIK website: http://www.philipkdick.com/ubikcorp.htm "Ubik Corporation: Providing spiritual salvation through a variety of convenience prod

Grammar-based privacy/crypto

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have not been much for posting on the list until now (nothing much other than opinions to add, and there seem to be plenty of those to go around already), but Mr. Fairbrother's post demanded a response. Peter Fairbrother wrote: > I am developing a

Re: Onion Self-Censorship

On Thursday, November 21, 2002, at 09:52 AM, Marc Branchaud wrote: I wonder: if The Onion were to attempt to pull an article due to a court order, or some such, and yet the article persisted in various caches here and there, to what extent could The Onion be charged with not complying with the

Re: Onion Self-Censorship

At 23:46 -0800 2002/11/20, Tim May wrote: >On Wednesday, November 20, 2002, at 10:25 PM, jet wrote: > >>At 9:01 -0800 2002/11/20, Eric Cordian wrote: >>>Cable News is reporting that the Onion, America's Finest News Source, has >>>pulled from its Web site an article on the recent siege at the Mosc

Re: New Wi-Fi Security Scheme Allows DoS (fwd)

At 11:38 AM 11/21/02 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: >I was thinkin about this... >It certainly looks like Concerned Authorities might be able to easily stop a >"Smart Mob" from uploading the images of beatings, etc... this way. That and >a round-up-and-grab knapsacks/laptops as "evidence" of illegal ac

Re: Aerosil digression

UBIK is a book by Philip K. Dick. In the book, the main character is continually receiving messages to imbibe or otherwise apply the substance UBIK to himself. He is unaware (for most of the book) that he has died and is in deep freeze, and that his boss Runciter is sending him UBIK messages so

Re: Onion Self-Censorship

Having read the article I can't help but consider more benign reasons for its removal... 1. It's not funny. 2. It's jokes are in pretty poor taste. 3. Michael Bay got his lawyers to send a letter to the Onion. The situation raises a mildly interesting issue. The Onion, for whatever reason (nef

Re: Torture done correctly is a terminal process

On Thursday, November 21, 2002, at 09:33 AM, Greg Broiles wrote: At 06:34 PM 11/20/2002 -0800, Lucky Green wrote: I recently obtained an illuminating recording of a speech by a judge sitting on the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals which was given before the San Francisco Commonwealth Club. In said

RE: Torture done correctly is a terminal process

At 06:34 PM 11/20/2002 -0800, Lucky Green wrote: I recently obtained an illuminating recording of a speech by a judge sitting on the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals which was given before the San Francisco Commonwealth Club. In said recording, the honorable judge proposes the issuance of formal feder

Aerosil digression

>>Got Aerosil? > >What the heck is Aerosil? Is that like UBIK? Extremely fine SiO2. Helps disperse pharmaceuticals, anthrax, VX. Lots of others uses. Bugs U$G that the New Next Target bought some. What's UBIK? D'you mean Dr. Seuss' "Ooblek"? Is Ooblek on the ITAR list? --- Got Atropine?

Re: Onion Self-Censorship

On Wednesday, November 20, 2002, at 10:25 PM, jet wrote: At 9:01 -0800 2002/11/20, Eric Cordian wrote: Cable News is reporting that the Onion, America's Finest News Source, has pulled from its Web site an article on the recent siege at the Moscow theatre by Chechen rebels. You got any pointe

Re: Compilers Can "Optimize" Away Security Code (fwd)

At 17:56 -0600 on 11/20/02, Jim Choate wrote: http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,717141,00.asp As if we hadn't talked the living crap out of this subject... Use the volatile keyword. That's what it's there for. Really. -- _ Kevin Elliott

Re: New Wi-Fi Security Scheme Allows DoS (fwd)

hi, >But there's a hitch: When WPA detects a break-in >attempt, it shuts down the network for a minute and >then restarts. During that time, legitimate users are >off the air too. Unauthorised access can be taken off by setting fake access points as such,whats the need for shutting down the net

RE: Compilers Can "Optimize" Away Security Code (fwd)

> Jim Choate[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,717141,00.asp > Why the heck is cypherpunks included for this post? Two weeks ago we discussed this topic in exhaustive detail (far, far beyond what the linked article provides). This article has nothing ne

Re: Psuedo-Private Key (eJazeera)

hi, I had suggested the same for an encryption product called digisecret,this is what they had to say. >Here is an example where hiding cipher text in cipher text is ideal.. DigiSecret currently does not use assymmetric algorithms. Besides this the introduction of this technique will mean that

Digital signature legislation tutorial posted

I've recently revamped part 2 of my Godzilla security tutorial, splitting off the coverage of digital signature legislation and related issues into its own section. Part2a, consisting of a total of 79 slides, covers the question of why we need digital signature legislation, what is a signature, pa

Re: OPPOSE THE WAR! We are going to ruin Iraq to get the oil. Who's ne

--- begin forwarded text Status: RO To: "R. A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: Somebody Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 16:58:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: OPPOSE THE WAR! We are going to ruin Iraq to get the oil. Who's ne FWIW (Trivia) > It is said that Simon Kenton could reload his Kentucky > rifle

Re: Onion Self-Censorship

At 9:01 -0800 2002/11/20, Eric Cordian wrote: >Cable News is reporting that the Onion, America's Finest News Source, has >pulled from its Web site an article on the recent siege at the Moscow >theatre by Chechen rebels. You got any pointers to that? I'm not seeing any mention of this story search

Re: New Wi-Fi Security Scheme Allows DoS (fwd)

at Thursday, November 21, 2002 1:52 PM, Jim Choate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was seen to say: > http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,717170,00.asp LOL! which references - the archive of this list for bibliography :)

RE: Psuedo-Private Key (eJazeera)

> And depending on the situation, the key-holder will decide > whether to give > them a key that destroys the real data, or that doesn't (and > hides it). Don't even bother trying to destroy the original. Chances are they will make a backup of everything before attempting anything. And destroyi

[IP] Pentagon transcript on TIA (fwd)

Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 06:31:58 -0500 From: Dave Farber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [IP] Pentagon transcript on TIA http://usinfo.state.gov/cgi-bin/washfile/display.pl?p=/products/washfile/latest&f=02112003.tlt&t=/products/washfile/newsitem.shtml

Re: Psuedo-Private Key -Methodology

at Thursday, November 21, 2002 2:26 PM, Sarad AV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was seen to say: > 'A' uses a very strong crytographic algorithm which > would be forced out by rubber horse cryptanalysis > Now if Aice could give another key k` such that the > cipher text (c) decrypts to another dummy plain >

Re: Psuedo-Private Key (eJazeera)

Variola wrote... What's missing? What part of your threat model didn't they consider? Well, that the recipient of the message may not be on their own machine (not running "Rubberhose"), etc... Stego your activist photos into kiddie porn which is stegoed into >random plaintext cover images

Re: Psuedo-Private Key -Methodology

hi, The methodology is very simple again. 'A' uses a very strong crytographic algorithm which would be forced out by rubber horse cryptanalysis Now if Aice could give another key k` such that the cipher text (c) decrypts to another dummy plain text(D) the secret police gets to read the dummy

DMCA Feedback

There's a few opinionated people on this list, I think :-) Patience, persistence, truth, Dr. mike -- Forwarded message -- From: MX%"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" "Jonathon Giffin" 20-NOV-2002 18:19:49.35 To: MX%"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" CC: Subj: [PKILAB] [SECRSCH] DMCA Feedback For an

Re: The End of the Golden Age of Crypto

Jim Choate wrote: > > On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Tyler Durden wrote: > >> Damn what a pack of geeks! (Looks like I might end up liking this list!) >> >> When we say "complete", are we talking about completeness in the Godelian >> sense? According to Godel, and formal system (except for the possibilit

Torture done correctly is a terminal process

On Wednesday, November 20, 2002, at 12:49 PM, dmolnar wrote: On Wed, 20 Nov 2002, Tyler Durden wrote: to have a big jpg of a hand with middle finger extended...) More than this, they will have unknowingly destroyed the real data. (Perhaps a 3rd key is needed that DOESN'T destroy the original

Re: OPPOSE THE WAR! We are going to ruin Iraq to get the oil. Who's ne

Kevin Elliott wrote: > 2) rifled muskets were not effective because of the ponderous reload > time (I don't have precise figures, but the number 1/6th-1/10th the > rate of fire of a smoothbore musket comes to mind) There isn't that much difference in reload times - say 30 seconds for a Kentucky r

Re: Psuedo-Private Key (eJazeera)

Tyler Durden wrote: [...] > Let's say I've been coerced into revealing the private key to a certain > encrypted message. And now, of course, the authorities use that key and open > the message, and see the contents (let's assume they are picture of a > demonstration or whatever). > > WOULDN'T IT B

Re: Torture done correctly is a terminal process

On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 04:30:42PM -0800, Tim May wrote: | On Wednesday, November 20, 2002, at 12:49 PM, dmolnar wrote: | | >On Wed, 20 Nov 2002, Tyler Durden wrote: | > | >>to have a big jpg of a hand with middle finger extended...) More than | >>this, | >>they will have unknowingly destroyed t

RE: Torture done correctly is a terminal process

Adam wrote: > The Russians, Americans and I believe others have moved from > physical to psychological methods which have proven to work > better than actual physical pain. I recall reading a story > on Abdul Murad, the Al Qaeda member arrested in 1995 in the > Philipines, where the way they f