Re: Idea: Sidestepping low-power broadcast regulations with infrared

2003-03-17 Thread Steve Schear
Another possibility occurred to me. It might be possible to use the 802.11-like devices for this purpose. The problem for this application with Wi-Fi is its focus on high data rate and therefore low process gain. But there is no inherent reason why almost the same circuits (perhaps even the

part III: Game theory, psychobio, demographics: Genesis of Suicide Terrorism

2003-03-17 Thread Major Variola (ret)
Priorities for Homeland Security The last line of defense against suicide terrorism--preventing bombers from reaching targets--may be the most expensive and least likely to succeed. Random bag or body searches cannot be very effective against people willing to die, although this may provide som

Re: Idea: Sidestepping low-power broadcast regulations with infrared

2003-03-17 Thread Steve Schear
At 03:13 PM 3/17/2003 +0100, Thomas Shaddack wrote: Using a powerful high-frequency modulated infrared source (eg, a bank of LEDs) located on a highly visible place, it couldbe possible to facilitate local community broadcasts, effectively sidestepping all FCC regulations. Better to ignore low powe

part II: Game theory, psychobio, demographics: Genesis of Suicide Terrorism

2003-03-17 Thread Major Variola (ret)
Dubious Public Perceptions Recent treatments of Homeland Security research concentrate on how to spend billions to protect sensitive installations from attack (14, 15). But this last line of defense is probably easiest to breach because of the multitude of vulnerable and likely targets (includin

Re: Fatherland Security measures more important than Bennetton tags!

2003-03-17 Thread stuart
On Monday, March 17, 2003, Tyler came up with this... TD> Cops tend to leave you alone unless you're robbing or TD> killing somebody. Or unless you're smoking a cigarette. TD> Drugs get the occsional bust, but the vast majority are left alone if TD> its discrete. In some places that may be, but

Re: Idea: Sidestepping low-power broadcast regulations with infrared

2003-03-17 Thread Tyler Durden
Steve Schear wrote... "A detector that is only sensitive to this spectral region has the capability to operate in the daylight, even while pointing at the sun, and pick up little background radiation" How much are UV receivers (note, not the same thing as a mere UV detector)? Gotta be kinda ex

Re: Brinwear at Benetton.

2003-03-17 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 06:39:08AM -0800, Mike Rosing wrote: > You can't determine who the customer is if they aren't in your database, > so a centralized database would make sense. The bandwidth on that is > going to be a nightmare. I can imagine some ways to deal with this. Have certain blocks

Re: Pneumonia versus face recognition

2003-03-17 Thread Thomas Shaddack
> What wavelengths do face recognition systems use, and are face masks still > opaque at those frequencies? As far as I know, the cameras used are standard ones, in normal visible range. (Backed with cost of the equipment, the fact that there is not enough UV light indoors, that IR cameras are w

Re: Brinwear at Benetton.

2003-03-17 Thread Mike Rosing
On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Michael Shields wrote: > It adds up, especially in low-margin businesses. Groceries are a good > example; unpacking every cart, scanning, and bagging is an expensive > bottleneck. The process could be streamlined a lot if an entire cart > were scanned at once. > > There are

Re: Idea: Sidestepping low-power broadcast regulations with infrared

2003-03-17 Thread Tyler Durden
Steve Schear wrote... I haven't checked but assume they should be relatively cheap. For example, I'm assuming this device isn't too expensive and the sensor itself should be available for a few $10s. http://www.ame-corp.com/UVB.htm Perhaps I misunderstand what you would want to use this device

Re: Pneumonia versus face recognition

2003-03-17 Thread Tyler Durden
Thomas Shaddack wrote... "Once wearing a face mask becomes common, the efficiency of face-recognition based surveillance/identification systems will get qutie reduced. Opinions, comments?" What wavelengths do face recognition systems use, and are face masks still opaque at those frequencies? -T

Re: CDR: Re: Fatherland Security measures more important thanBennetton tags!

2003-03-17 Thread Michael Shields
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Tyler Durden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And then, there are still many unattended exit points that have no > cameras (and in many of those remote points, the installation of > cameras would eventually be met with graffitti or vandalism). The NYC > subway system i

Re: Fatherland Security measures more important than Bennetton tags!

2003-03-17 Thread stuart
It's obvious they know what you look like if you use those machines, and who you are too if you use a credit card. Same with mail & ride, I suppose, but that I know nothing of because I don't go to LI and I don't pay attention to Metro North. They obviously need an address, do they insist on a name

Re: [1st amend] NYT: MTV refuses antiwar commercial

2003-03-17 Thread Tyler Durden
Yeah, despite the probable issues, I want to see big-breasted, bikini-clad springbreak chics on MTV while smokin' a doobie, not be all harshed-out by "reality". I WANT MY MT-V! -TD From: Sunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [1st amend] NYT: MT

Re: Brinwear at Benetton.

2003-03-17 Thread Michael Shields
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mike Rosing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, and it takes a second or 2 to find the bar code. That's got > to cost a few pennies doesn't it :-) It adds up, especially in low-margin businesses. Groceries are a good example; unpacking every cart, scanning, and bag

Re: Brinwear at Benetton.

2003-03-17 Thread Mike Rosing
On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Declan McCullagh wrote: > I can imagine some ways to deal with this. Have certain blocks of RFID > address space assigned to specific companies, who publish what products > they'll be used for. They won't specify what *individuals* will get what > tags, just that it's a $2,500

Re: Pneumonia versus face recognition

2003-03-17 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 03:23 PM 3/17/03 +0100, Thomas Shaddack wrote: >As things are never purely good and bad, the outbreak of new killer >pneumonia offers some hope in countering the proliferating camera >surveillance system. > >In Japan, it's common to wear a face-mask similar to the kind surgeons >have during outb

Re: Fatherland Security measures more important than Bennetton tags!

2003-03-17 Thread Tyler Durden
This ain't Singapore, now...it's NYC. You can (and always will) be able to buy a Metrocard with cash at the remaining token booths. And while I'd bet many have cameras (for anti-token booth-type crime, including setting the booth on fire), I really doubt they'd be able to accurately track an in

Re: Idea: Sidestepping low-power broadcast regulations with infrared

2003-03-17 Thread Steve Schear
At 12:08 PM 3/17/2003 -0500, you wrote: Steve Schear wrote... "A detector that is only sensitive to this spectral region has the capability to operate in the daylight, even while pointing at the sun, and pick up little background radiation" How much are UV receivers (note, not the same thing as

Game theory, psychobio, demographics: Genesis of Suicide Terrorism

2003-03-17 Thread Major Variola (ret)
Here's a bit of meat for Tim... Genesis of Suicide Terrorism Scott Atran Contemporary suicide terrorists from the Middle East are publicly deemed crazed cowards bent on senseless destruction who thrive in poverty and ignorance. Recent research indicates they have no appreciable psychopatholo

Re: Fatherland Security measures more important than Bennetton tags!

2003-03-17 Thread Tyler Durden
Well, i thought that the general gist of your post was that in many cases it would be possible to determine the comings and goings of CitizenUnit A in the New York City subway system. My "needless" reply was to voice some scepticism on this in the general case, and to disagree in the case of so

Re: Fatherland Security measures more important than Bennetton tags!

2003-03-17 Thread Sunder
Right, which is why I said the following: "If you don't buy your Metrocard with cash..." and "Of course face->card links aren't card->identity links, but if you're wanted, they're more than good enough." Please DO read the entire message before needlessly replying. --Kaos-

Re: [1st amend] NYT: MTV refuses antiwar commercial

2003-03-17 Thread Sunder
As deplorable and heinous as MTV's actions are, go back and read the 1st Ammendment. MTV is not a government run channel. The 1st doesn't apply to it. Now - if say Fox News - who claims to be "Fair and Balanced" refused it, while accepting - say US Army/Navy/Marines ads, etc. that might be an in

RE: Brinwear at Benetton.

2003-03-17 Thread Mike Rosing
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, Trei, Peter wrote: > You're not thinking this through. As the item goes through the door (in > either direction) the check is made "Is this individual tag on this store's > 'unsold inventory' list?. If so, raise the alarm. The tags are not fungible; > they each have a unique n

Re: Brumley & Boneh timing attack on OpenSSL

2003-03-17 Thread Peter Gutmann
Bill Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >Schmoo Group response on cryptonomicon.net >http://www.cryptonomicon.net/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=263&mode=&order=0&thold=0 >Apparently OpenSSL has code to prevent the timing attack, >but it's often not compiled in (I'm not sure how much that

Idea: Sidestepping low-power broadcast regulations with infrared

2003-03-17 Thread Thomas Shaddack
Using a powerful high-frequency modulated infrared source (eg, a bank of LEDs) located on a highly visible place, it couldbe possible to facilitate local community broadcasts, effectively sidestepping all FCC regulations. The advantage is absolutely no laws regulating using of infrared beams for d

Pneumonia versus face recognition

2003-03-17 Thread Thomas Shaddack
As things are never purely good and bad, the outbreak of new killer pneumonia offers some hope in countering the proliferating camera surveillance system. In Japan, it's common to wear a face-mask similar to the kind surgeons have during outbreaks of flu and during the cold season. The current air

Re: Identification of users of payphones

2003-03-17 Thread John Kelsey
At 08:03 PM 3/14/03 -0800, Tim May wrote: ... They could be round, for easy handling. And milled for evidence of having been shaved. They could even be made of precious metals for high-value coins, and of base and inexpensive metals for low-value coins. Have you filed for the patent, yet? --Tim

Re: The Register Libels Declan

2003-03-17 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Sat, Mar 15, 2003 at 10:42:33PM -0800, Eric Cordian wrote: >McCullagh, like Weiner - decided that principles are for fools. If not having principles means rejecting the kind of statist claptrap that the Register writer advocates -- and that went out of style with Nikita Khrushchev's bad sui

It's _still_ "So very 1992"

2003-03-17 Thread Tim May
Things have been quiet here for a few months (arguably for a few years...), and yet the need for our technologies has never been greater. Things are grimmer now than they were in 1992-3, those dark years when "Clipper" was to be deployed. And yet back then there was no Fatherland Security, no "

Zombie Patriots: America's Divine Wind

2003-03-17 Thread barabbus
"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty " --- Thomas Jefferson Its a fact that leading public officials who violate the U.S. Constitution are rarely held accountable. In the U.S., in particular, this means all laws based on

Western Corporations That Supplied Iraq's Weapons Program

2003-03-17 Thread Steve Schear
http://www.thememoryhole.org/corp/iraq-suppliers.htm "War is just a racket ... something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small group knows what its about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses." --- Major General Smedley Butle

Boycott Delta on CNN Headline News

2003-03-17 Thread Greg Broiles
CNN's Headline News channel is running a short interview with cpunk Bill Scannell on the Boycott Delta campaign and the CAPPS II initiative, with cheerful rebuttals from a spokesdroid who explained that there's no threat to privacy because the credit checks will be performed by unknown third partie

Re: Fatherland Security measures more important than Bennetton tags!

2003-03-17 Thread jayh
A radio report claimed that anew 'feature' of the cards was replacement of lost or stolen cards. That sounds like there is a plan to tie cards to individuals. j <- Original Text -> What's to link? All that can be linked is that a metrocard was bought in one place, be it a subway station,

Re: vulnerability analysis

2003-03-17 Thread Bill Stewart
At 06:17 PM 03/15/2003 -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote: What happens when you fly a low-fuel high speed 727 into a biosafety level 4 containment facility? Probable answer: not in the threat model considered during design, so it can't happen. I thought Air Force 1 was a 747 these days?

vulnerability analysis

2003-03-17 Thread Major Variola (ret)
What happens when you fly a low-fuel high speed 727 into a biosafety level 4 containment facility? Probable answer: not in the threat model considered during design, so it can't happen.

Re: Orwell's "Victory" goods come home

2003-03-17 Thread Nomen Nescio
On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 18:12:19 -0600, you wrote: > > On Saturday 15 March 2003 12:55 pm, Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga > Remailer wrote: > > On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 14:25:51 +, you wrote: > > > So which American on the list is going to write to Congress to demand > > > that the Statue of Libert

Re: vulnerability analysis

2003-03-17 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sat, 15 Mar 2003, Major Variola (ret) wrote: > What happens when you fly a low-fuel high speed 727 into a biosafety > level 4 containment facility? It will be reduced to rubble. Most of those inside will get killed. Sterile containments will be breached. Negligible amounts of pathogens will