Re: Who feigned Roger Rabbit?

2003-01-31 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 12:29:47PM -0600, Harmon Seaver wrote: Okay, but the thread was, I believe, about the destructive effects of subsidy. So lets yank back that 20 billion just given to the airlines. How would your flight have gone then? Would there even be one? JetBlue launched fairly

Passenger rail is for adventurers and bums

2003-01-31 Thread Tim May
On Thursday, January 30, 2003, at 07:39 PM, Neil Johnson wrote: On Thursday 30 January 2003 10:12 am, Declan McCullagh wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 07:32:10AM -0800, Marshall Clow wrote: 3) Train - about 17 hours - $130 round trip. Out here in the Midwest, we have people creating

Re: Senate votes against TIA funding.

2003-01-31 Thread Tim May
On Thursday, January 30, 2003, at 02:41 PM, Bill Stewart wrote: Washington: In a daring attempt to avoid identification by the Ministry of Total Information Awareness, the Senate resorted to a voice vote when blocking TIA's funding, hoping that without a written record, individual Senators

Re: the news from bush's speech...H-power

2003-01-31 Thread Neil Johnson
On Thursday 30 January 2003 03:25 am, Bill Stewart wrote: Remember the Synfuel boondoggles under Jimmy Carter? Cracking otherwise-uneconomical oil shale might have been a useful technology if the price of oil were $50-100/barrel. (Meanwhile, we can feel nice and liberal about leaving all this

Re: The news from May's peech...Narc-power

2003-01-31 Thread Jim Choate
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Tyler Durden wrote: Me? I grew up here in NYC in the 70s, where/when Punk began (please, no one out in the sticks there try to tell me about the Brits inventing Punk, and Yeah, right...not. MC5 (1969, Detroit), Iggy Pop (1973, Detroit)...Kick out the jams brothers and

Re: Who feigned Roger Rabbit?

2003-01-31 Thread Neil Johnson
On Thursday 30 January 2003 10:12 am, Declan McCullagh wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 07:32:10AM -0800, Marshall Clow wrote: 3) Train - about 17 hours - $130 round trip. Out here in the Midwest, we have people creating committees all the time to encourage Amtrak to add/change routes. As

Re: Sovereignty issues and Palladium/TCPA

2003-01-31 Thread David Howe
at Friday, January 31, 2003 2:18 AM, Peter Gutmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] was seen to say: schnipp More particularly, governments are likely to want to explore the issues related to potential foreign control/influence over domestic governmental use/access to domestic government held data. In

Re: Passenger rail is for adventurers and bums

2003-01-31 Thread Thomas Shaddack
Railroads are for hoboes and untermenschen. I don't know how it works in the US, but railroads are both comfortable and pretty reliable in Europe.

Re: Passenger rail is for adventurers and bums

2003-01-31 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Thomas Shaddack wrote: I don't know how it works in the US, but railroads are both comfortable and pretty reliable in Europe. A bit too expensive, especially in Germany. I also like being able to work on the train -- given that here cities are only a few kilotons apart

The news from May's peech...Narc-power

2003-01-31 Thread Tyler Durden
You folks here pay lip service to aspect of free markets and anarcho-capitalism,but many of you consistently fail to see the follow-through, the applicability to the world around you. You need to have faith that greed is good, that free markets optimize a lot better than planners in

Re: The burn-off of twenty million useless eaters and minorities is aQ

2003-01-31 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 10:59:02PM -, Tom Veil wrote: Tim May wrote on January 22, 2003 at 00:55: I expect 20 million to die. Fortunately, 18 million of them will be the usual Democrat, Commies, welfare recipients, negro activists, and Socialist fellow travellers. The other two

Re: Passenger rail is for adventurers and bums

2003-01-31 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 02:21:20PM +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Thomas Shaddack wrote: I don't know how it works in the US, but railroads are both comfortable and pretty reliable in Europe. A bit too expensive, especially in Germany. I also like being able to work on

punk and free markets

2003-01-31 Thread Michael Motyka
Jim Choate wrote : On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Tyler Durden wrote: Me? I grew up here in NYC in the 70s, where/when Punk began (please, no one out in the sticks there try to tell me about the Brits inventing Punk, and Yeah, right...not. MC5 (1969, Detroit), Iggy Pop (1973, Detroit)...Kick

Re: the news from bush's speech...H-power

2003-01-31 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 11:24:13AM -0800, James A. Donald wrote: -- On 30 Jan 2003 at 12:16, Harmon Seaver wrote: I'll have to find the studies, but it was the same oil geologists (not enviros) who used the same model to accurately predict the peak of US oil production who did the

Re: Passenger rail is for adventurers and bums

2003-01-31 Thread Tim May
On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 04:55 AM, Thomas Shaddack wrote: Railroads are for hoboes and untermenschen. I don't know how it works in the US, but railroads are both comfortable and pretty reliable in Europe. Yes, and I spent 7 weeks traveling around Europe with a Eurail Pass. Except

Re: Passenger rail is for adventurers and bums

2003-01-31 Thread Tim May
On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 07:58 AM, Harmon Seaver wrote: On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 02:21:20PM +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Thomas Shaddack wrote: I don't know how it works in the US, but railroads are both comfortable and pretty reliable in Europe. A bit too

Re: the news from bush's speech...H-power

2003-01-31 Thread James A. Donald
-- These geologists very accurately predicted the peaking of oil production in the US, Completely false. These geologists are not Hubbert, nor did they very accurately predict the peaking of oil in the US, nor do they use Hubbert's methodology, though they claim to. Rather, they are

Re: cities are only a few kilotons apart

2003-01-31 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Major Variola (ret) wrote: Is kilotons a typo or do Europeans enjoy a dark sense of cartography? towns and villages are only 1-2 kilotons apart is from W. Arkin, F. Von Hippel, and B. G. Levi, The Consequences of a Limited Nuclear War in East and West Germany, Ambio 11

Re: Content Altering DVD Players

2003-01-31 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 04:25 PM 1/30/03 -0800, Eric Cordian wrote: http://msn.zdnet.com/zdfeeds/msncobrand/reviews/0,13828,2909517,00.html Dear Hollywood: Keep your hands off my DVDs By David Coursey, AnchorDesk Thanks for posting this. Very interesting. Of course, the DVD CCA owns the DVD trademark just like

cities are only a few kilotons apart

2003-01-31 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 02:21 PM 1/31/03 +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: A bit too expensive, especially in Germany. I also like being able to work on the train -- given that here cities are only a few kilotons apart and ICEs are pretty speedy flying can take longer. Is kilotons a typo or do Europeans enjoy a dark sense of

Re: Passenger rail is for adventurers and bums

2003-01-31 Thread Tim May
On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 07:58 AM, Harmon Seaver wrote: I'd love to see more and better train service in the US. Great way to travel, work, read, watch the scenery. I don't mind at all taking a few days, and, unless it's a real emergency, I'm very sure at this point I'll never

The burn-off of twenty million useless eaters and minorities is about to begin

2003-01-31 Thread george . bartlet
Tim May, No matter how many of us are burned off. There will be enough of us left who will know who and where you are. Your pathetic guns won't be enough. Concerned about your privacy? Follow this link to get FREE encrypted email: https://www.hushmail.com/?l=2 Big $$$ to be made with the

Re: punk and free markets

2003-01-31 Thread Tim May
On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 09:05 AM, Michael Motyka wrote: Jim Choate wrote : This list, at least in the Fraunhoffer region, does on some level emanate a Punk attitude, and tolerating the presence of a crypto-fascist or two is something of a consequence. But I'm sick of seeing the Tim

Re: Sovereignty issues and Palladium/TCPA

2003-01-31 Thread Dave Howe
I have seen this *five* times already - is there some sort of wierd mailing loop in action? I am fairly certain I haven't sent it five times spread out over two days

Life Sentence for Medical Marijuana?

2003-01-31 Thread Eric Cordian
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,77234,00.html The Feebs are crowing over their latest victory, having just obtained a conviction against a medical marijuana grower for the city of Oakland. The individual was of course prohibited from any mention at his trial of medical marijuana, that he was

Re: Life Sentence for Medical Marijuana?

2003-01-31 Thread Michael Cardenas
I think this is what you call taxation without representation Note also, that the judge in the case was the brother of the supreme court judge who bush appointed who's totally opposed to these sates right cases. Great how bush's daughter, the cocaine addict, isn't in jail, but this man, who was

Re: Life Sentence for Medical Marijuana?

2003-01-31 Thread Mike Rosing
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Michael Cardenas wrote: I think this is what you call taxation without representation Note also, that the judge in the case was the brother of the supreme court judge who bush appointed who's totally opposed to these sates right cases. Great how bush's daughter, the