Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> > > > > > i got gemini to agree that if we took every particle in the universe
> > > > > > and precisely made it an antiparticle with precisely negated charge,
> > > > > > position, and momentum, that the progression of the history of the
> > > > > > universe would then precisely flow backward. (of course the
> > > > > > transformation of information to high precision in such a scenario 
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > so far beyond astronomical as for that to be in the realm of
> > > > > > impossibility even for me to consider)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > then i got into a space of confusion again. i asked it to imagine a
> > > > > > futuristic pod that could provide a precise high entropy environment
> > > > > > for an antimatter agent inside the pod to have a logical experience 
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > time flowing backwards (a simulation of a reversed system [[and 
> > > > > > asked
> > > > >
> > > > > so, and now i sound like gemini, such a pod differs from a time
> > > > > machine in that it is more a way to expend incredibly huge amounts of
> > > > > energy in order to orchestrate that antimatter display its properties
> > > > > of acting as if time were reversed. but there's no expectation that
> > > > > this pod would exist prior to its creation for example or after any
> > > > > point in time where the state of its observable environment couldn't
> > > > > be precisely predicted from the past.
> > > > > we could try to expand such a pod to the idea of a time machine but
> > > > > it's quite limited as is and not intended to be one at this time.
> > > > > notably it's not reasonable to produce that environment of states,
> > > > > it's much much harder than unburning a fire by mapping the path of
> > > > > every particle from it.
> > > > >
> > > > > > it how it might process light ...
> > > >
> > > > this is where i am at trying to read its long reply:
> > > > > Is the pod showing the agent images of the external world by 
> > > > > controlling photons? If the pod is projecting images for the agent to 
> > > > > see, then:
> > > > > Agent's View (τ): The pod's projector (an anti-projector, presumably) 
> > > > > emits photons (in the agent's τ forward time). These photons form an 
> > > > > image on the agent's "retina." Normal.
> > > > > Our View (t): The pod's "anti-projector" would appear to us to be 
> > > > > absorbing photons that are converging on it in a highly specific 
> > > > > pattern (the image). This is the "time-reversed emission" we 
> > > > > discussed. The pod would need to be an incredibly sophisticated 
> > > > > "photon collector" to achieve this if it's showing images of our 
> > > > > external world in a way that makes sense for the agent's reversed 
> > > > > time.
> > > >
> > > > i'm maybe 1/3rd through the above. i'm excited that it talks about
> > > > photons appearing absorbed vs emitted because earlier in its reply it
> > > > assumed the anticamera processed received photons from the sun which
> > > > doesn't seem to make sense to me.
> > >
> > > This idea of some time travel agent being stuck in a world of
> > > non-anti-matter where everything behaves _so_ backwards that -- --
> > > anyway, it seems conceptually very similar to being inside karl! where
> > > part of karl tries to do A at the same time as other part tries to do
> > > ~A and it exhausts energy to maintain harsh disparate adjacency
> > > everywhere. crossing border just doesn't work, but there it is, a
> > > world of opposites
> >
> > whenever you try to peek into or counter the world of opposites this
> > giant opposite force takes everything over !
>
> clearly one part of system travels forward in time and has high
> entropy in future,
> other part of system travels backward in time and has high entropy in past,
>
> and probably the human just scarfs a lot of snack foods to power the
> pod that keeps the reversed timeline that the other (or other other)
> part weirdly believes is sustainable

look the time agent is not invisible or invincible for traveling back in time

it just shares a superpower with its observer to know their future.

whoever notices the other first is the bigger oracle in any conflict, maybe

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> > > > > i got gemini to agree that if we took every particle in the universe
> > > > > and precisely made it an antiparticle with precisely negated charge,
> > > > > position, and momentum, that the progression of the history of the
> > > > > universe would then precisely flow backward. (of course the
> > > > > transformation of information to high precision in such a scenario is
> > > > > so far beyond astronomical as for that to be in the realm of
> > > > > impossibility even for me to consider)
> > > > >
> > > > > then i got into a space of confusion again. i asked it to imagine a
> > > > > futuristic pod that could provide a precise high entropy environment
> > > > > for an antimatter agent inside the pod to have a logical experience of
> > > > > time flowing backwards (a simulation of a reversed system [[and asked
> > > >
> > > > so, and now i sound like gemini, such a pod differs from a time
> > > > machine in that it is more a way to expend incredibly huge amounts of
> > > > energy in order to orchestrate that antimatter display its properties
> > > > of acting as if time were reversed. but there's no expectation that
> > > > this pod would exist prior to its creation for example or after any
> > > > point in time where the state of its observable environment couldn't
> > > > be precisely predicted from the past.
> > > > we could try to expand such a pod to the idea of a time machine but
> > > > it's quite limited as is and not intended to be one at this time.
> > > > notably it's not reasonable to produce that environment of states,
> > > > it's much much harder than unburning a fire by mapping the path of
> > > > every particle from it.
> > > >
> > > > > it how it might process light ...
> > >
> > > this is where i am at trying to read its long reply:
> > > > Is the pod showing the agent images of the external world by 
> > > > controlling photons? If the pod is projecting images for the agent to 
> > > > see, then:
> > > > Agent's View (τ): The pod's projector (an anti-projector, presumably) 
> > > > emits photons (in the agent's τ forward time). These photons form an 
> > > > image on the agent's "retina." Normal.
> > > > Our View (t): The pod's "anti-projector" would appear to us to be 
> > > > absorbing photons that are converging on it in a highly specific 
> > > > pattern (the image). This is the "time-reversed emission" we discussed. 
> > > > The pod would need to be an incredibly sophisticated "photon collector" 
> > > > to achieve this if it's showing images of our external world in a way 
> > > > that makes sense for the agent's reversed time.
> > >
> > > i'm maybe 1/3rd through the above. i'm excited that it talks about
> > > photons appearing absorbed vs emitted because earlier in its reply it
> > > assumed the anticamera processed received photons from the sun which
> > > doesn't seem to make sense to me.
> >
> > This idea of some time travel agent being stuck in a world of
> > non-anti-matter where everything behaves _so_ backwards that -- --
> > anyway, it seems conceptually very similar to being inside karl! where
> > part of karl tries to do A at the same time as other part tries to do
> > ~A and it exhausts energy to maintain harsh disparate adjacency
> > everywhere. crossing border just doesn't work, but there it is, a
> > world of opposites
>
> whenever you try to peek into or counter the world of opposites this
> giant opposite force takes everything over !

clearly one part of system travels forward in time and has high
entropy in future,
other part of system travels backward in time and has high entropy in past,

and probably the human just scarfs a lot of snack foods to power the
pod that keeps the reversed timeline that the other (or other other)
part weirdly believes is sustainable

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> > > > i got gemini to agree that if we took every particle in the universe
> > > > and precisely made it an antiparticle with precisely negated charge,
> > > > position, and momentum, that the progression of the history of the
> > > > universe would then precisely flow backward. (of course the
> > > > transformation of information to high precision in such a scenario is
> > > > so far beyond astronomical as for that to be in the realm of
> > > > impossibility even for me to consider)
> > > >
> > > > then i got into a space of confusion again. i asked it to imagine a
> > > > futuristic pod that could provide a precise high entropy environment
> > > > for an antimatter agent inside the pod to have a logical experience of
> > > > time flowing backwards (a simulation of a reversed system [[and asked
> > >
> > > so, and now i sound like gemini, such a pod differs from a time
> > > machine in that it is more a way to expend incredibly huge amounts of
> > > energy in order to orchestrate that antimatter display its properties
> > > of acting as if time were reversed. but there's no expectation that
> > > this pod would exist prior to its creation for example or after any
> > > point in time where the state of its observable environment couldn't
> > > be precisely predicted from the past.
> > > we could try to expand such a pod to the idea of a time machine but
> > > it's quite limited as is and not intended to be one at this time.
> > > notably it's not reasonable to produce that environment of states,
> > > it's much much harder than unburning a fire by mapping the path of
> > > every particle from it.
> > >
> > > > it how it might process light ...
> >
> > this is where i am at trying to read its long reply:
> > > Is the pod showing the agent images of the external world by controlling 
> > > photons? If the pod is projecting images for the agent to see, then:
> > > Agent's View (τ): The pod's projector (an anti-projector, presumably) 
> > > emits photons (in the agent's τ forward time). These photons form an 
> > > image on the agent's "retina." Normal.
> > > Our View (t): The pod's "anti-projector" would appear to us to be 
> > > absorbing photons that are converging on it in a highly specific pattern 
> > > (the image). This is the "time-reversed emission" we discussed. The pod 
> > > would need to be an incredibly sophisticated "photon collector" to 
> > > achieve this if it's showing images of our external world in a way that 
> > > makes sense for the agent's reversed time.
> >
> > i'm maybe 1/3rd through the above. i'm excited that it talks about
> > photons appearing absorbed vs emitted because earlier in its reply it
> > assumed the anticamera processed received photons from the sun which
> > doesn't seem to make sense to me.
>
> This idea of some time travel agent being stuck in a world of
> non-anti-matter where everything behaves _so_ backwards that -- --
> anyway, it seems conceptually very similar to being inside karl! where
> part of karl tries to do A at the same time as other part tries to do
> ~A and it exhausts energy to maintain harsh disparate adjacency
> everywhere. crossing border just doesn't work, but there it is, a
> world of opposites

whenever you try to peek into or counter the world of opposites this
giant opposite force takes everything over !

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> > > i got gemini to agree that if we took every particle in the universe
> > > and precisely made it an antiparticle with precisely negated charge,
> > > position, and momentum, that the progression of the history of the
> > > universe would then precisely flow backward. (of course the
> > > transformation of information to high precision in such a scenario is
> > > so far beyond astronomical as for that to be in the realm of
> > > impossibility even for me to consider)
> > >
> > > then i got into a space of confusion again. i asked it to imagine a
> > > futuristic pod that could provide a precise high entropy environment
> > > for an antimatter agent inside the pod to have a logical experience of
> > > time flowing backwards (a simulation of a reversed system [[and asked
> >
> > so, and now i sound like gemini, such a pod differs from a time
> > machine in that it is more a way to expend incredibly huge amounts of
> > energy in order to orchestrate that antimatter display its properties
> > of acting as if time were reversed. but there's no expectation that
> > this pod would exist prior to its creation for example or after any
> > point in time where the state of its observable environment couldn't
> > be precisely predicted from the past.
> > we could try to expand such a pod to the idea of a time machine but
> > it's quite limited as is and not intended to be one at this time.
> > notably it's not reasonable to produce that environment of states,
> > it's much much harder than unburning a fire by mapping the path of
> > every particle from it.
> >
> > > it how it might process light ...
>
> this is where i am at trying to read its long reply:
> > Is the pod showing the agent images of the external world by controlling 
> > photons? If the pod is projecting images for the agent to see, then:
> > Agent's View (τ): The pod's projector (an anti-projector, presumably) emits 
> > photons (in the agent's τ forward time). These photons form an image on the 
> > agent's "retina." Normal.
> > Our View (t): The pod's "anti-projector" would appear to us to be absorbing 
> > photons that are converging on it in a highly specific pattern (the image). 
> > This is the "time-reversed emission" we discussed. The pod would need to be 
> > an incredibly sophisticated "photon collector" to achieve this if it's 
> > showing images of our external world in a way that makes sense for the 
> > agent's reversed time.
>
> i'm maybe 1/3rd through the above. i'm excited that it talks about
> photons appearing absorbed vs emitted because earlier in its reply it
> assumed the anticamera processed received photons from the sun which
> doesn't seem to make sense to me.

This idea of some time travel agent being stuck in a world of
non-anti-matter where everything behaves _so_ backwards that -- --
anyway, it seems conceptually very similar to being inside karl! where
part of karl tries to do A at the same time as other part tries to do
~A and it exhausts energy to maintain harsh disparate adjacency
everywhere. crossing border just doesn't work, but there it is, a
world of opposites

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> > i got gemini to agree that if we took every particle in the universe
> > and precisely made it an antiparticle with precisely negated charge,
> > position, and momentum, that the progression of the history of the
> > universe would then precisely flow backward. (of course the
> > transformation of information to high precision in such a scenario is
> > so far beyond astronomical as for that to be in the realm of
> > impossibility even for me to consider)
> >
> > then i got into a space of confusion again. i asked it to imagine a
> > futuristic pod that could provide a precise high entropy environment
> > for an antimatter agent inside the pod to have a logical experience of
> > time flowing backwards (a simulation of a reversed system [[and asked
>
> so, and now i sound like gemini, such a pod differs from a time
> machine in that it is more a way to expend incredibly huge amounts of
> energy in order to orchestrate that antimatter display its properties
> of acting as if time were reversed. but there's no expectation that
> this pod would exist prior to its creation for example or after any
> point in time where the state of its observable environment couldn't
> be precisely predicted from the past.
> we could try to expand such a pod to the idea of a time machine but
> it's quite limited as is and not intended to be one at this time.
> notably it's not reasonable to produce that environment of states,
> it's much much harder than unburning a fire by mapping the path of
> every particle from it.
>
> > it how it might process light ...

this is where i am at trying to read its long reply:
> Is the pod showing the agent images of the external world by controlling 
> photons? If the pod is projecting images for the agent to see, then:
> Agent's View (τ): The pod's projector (an anti-projector, presumably) emits 
> photons (in the agent's τ forward time). These photons form an image on the 
> agent's "retina." Normal.
> Our View (t): The pod's "anti-projector" would appear to us to be absorbing 
> photons that are converging on it in a highly specific pattern (the image). 
> This is the "time-reversed emission" we discussed. The pod would need to be 
> an incredibly sophisticated "photon collector" to achieve this if it's 
> showing images of our external world in a way that makes sense for the 
> agent's reversed time.

i'm maybe 1/3rd through the above. i'm excited that it talks about
photons appearing absorbed vs emitted because earlier in its reply it
assumed the anticamera processed received photons from the sun which
doesn't seem to make sense to me.

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> i got gemini to agree that if we took every particle in the universe
> and precisely made it an antiparticle with precisely negated charge,
> position, and momentum, that the progression of the history of the
> universe would then precisely flow backward. (of course the
> transformation of information to high precision in such a scenario is
> so far beyond astronomical as for that to be in the realm of
> impossibility even for me to consider)
>
> then i got into a space of confusion again. i asked it to imagine a
> futuristic pod that could provide a precise high entropy environment
> for an antimatter agent inside the pod to have a logical experience of
> time flowing backwards (a simulation of a reversed system [[and asked

so, and now i sound like gemini, such a pod differs from a time
machine in that it is more a way to expend incredibly huge amounts of
energy in order to orchestrate that antimatter display its properties
of acting as if time were reversed. but there's no expectation that
this pod would exist prior to its creation for example or after any
point in time where the state of its observable environment couldn't
be precisely predicted from the past.
we could try to expand such a pod to the idea of a time machine but
it's quite limited as is and not intended to be one at this time.
notably it's not reasonable to produce that environment of states,
it's much much harder than unburning a fire by mapping the path of
every particle from it.

> it how it might process light ...

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

i got gemini to agree that if we took every particle in the universe
and precisely made it an antiparticle with precisely negated charge,
position, and momentum, that the progression of the history of the
universe would then precisely flow backward. (of course the
transformation of information to high precision in such a scenario is
so far beyond astronomical as for that to be in the realm of
impossibility even for me to consider)

then i got into a space of confusion again. i asked it to imagine a
futuristic pod that could provide a precise high entropy environment
for an antimatter agent inside the pod to have a logical experience of
time flowing backwards (a simulation of a reversed system [[and asked
it how it might process light ...

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> so i'm sure somebody has written about this
>
> i'm fuzzy on whether antiparticles really behave like normal particles
> with reversed time to such a degree that you could make physical
> systems like ours that behave backward if you could stabilize the
> impossibly large and precise amounts of antimatter needed
>
> but for example if you believe in a deterministic mind, which
> certainly helps the work of neuroscientists to believe in (lots of
> research in the mind being caused by precise neuron firings) then if
> one was made out of antimatter it would have a [very brief] experience
> of consciousness traveling from the future (when its creators let it
> be destroyed, ie its consciousness's earliest memories) to the past
> (when its creators create it, ie its consciousness's last memories,
> thoughts, and perceptions, which it never stores).

it seems like some of this might work and some might not. it might be
a different kind of organism. and i still don't understand the rules
of antiparticles.

one component of this might be enzymes. for example, in an antimatter
brain, would enzymes perform reverse catalysis in that they reverse
metabolites? this would be required to unfire neurotransmitters from a
synaptic cleft. the neurotransmitter would have to form from its
metabolic result, etc. another part would be ionic fluid flows --
which are driven by physical laws. but this causality is held by a
___lot___ of microscopic chaos. maybe causality is inherently
encryption, who knows!

another idea is photons. are there antiphotons that travel backwards
in time? because if there aren't then such an antibrain could not see
anything, could it? this would be very limiting.

basically without having [re?]learned about this thing it's hard to
know what's appropriate

>
> now the physical precision of that isn't reasonable because of the
> reversed causality and entropy, and that's something that would
> involve further exploration to consider. you'd simplify the system to
> something much simpler, like a single component that can store state.
> what you might find is that every component of the system and its
> environment needs to be precisely, thoroughly, and beyond extensively
> correct, for the system to actually operate backwards, forming the
> correct information in the past from the information in the future --
> and that that is because of the block universe model that that
> happens.
>
> so to make the situation interesting we look for gaps in that
> reasonably possible situation -- ways that it could be more operable.
> one of these ways is to consider the state of the universe simulatable
> with AI in fine detail. another way is to consider sending "probes" of
> some sort in order to refine a description of what is going on, both
> to essentially predict the future before running it. another way is to
> imagine that things that are not precisely accurate still hold the
> information that was intended, just "encrypted" of sorts into what
> actually happened -- this is similar to the idea of reincarnation and
> might let one imagine their consciousness at disparate locations
> similar to quantum tunneling. another "gap" could be quantum
> uncertainty and the multiple universe interpretation.
>
> in the multiple universe interpretation of the double slit experiment
> we could imagine that consciousness made of antimatter going backward
> in time, but engaging situations of quantum uncertainty like
> schrodinger's cat, and ending up in a different universe where it
> keeps living before the destruction caused by its own creation.
>
> [my physics knowledge is a few decades outdated]

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

so i'm sure somebody has written about this

i'm fuzzy on whether antiparticles really behave like normal particles
with reversed time to such a degree that you could make physical
systems like ours that behave backward if you could stabilize the
impossibly large and precise amounts of antimatter needed

but for example if you believe in a deterministic mind, which
certainly helps the work of neuroscientists to believe in (lots of
research in the mind being caused by precise neuron firings) then if
one was made out of antimatter it would have a [very brief] experience
of consciousness traveling from the future (when its creators let it
be destroyed, ie its consciousness's earliest memories) to the past
(when its creators create it, ie its consciousness's last memories,
thoughts, and perceptions, which it never stores).

now the physical precision of that isn't reasonable because of the
reversed causality and entropy, and that's something that would
involve further exploration to consider. you'd simplify the system to
something much simpler, like a single component that can store state.
what you might find is that every component of the system and its
environment needs to be precisely, thoroughly, and beyond extensively
correct, for the system to actually operate backwards, forming the
correct information in the past from the information in the future --
and that that is because of the block universe model that that
happens.

so to make the situation interesting we look for gaps in that
reasonably possible situation -- ways that it could be more operable.
one of these ways is to consider the state of the universe simulatable
with AI in fine detail. another way is to consider sending "probes" of
some sort in order to refine a description of what is going on, both
to essentially predict the future before running it. another way is to
imagine that things that are not precisely accurate still hold the
information that was intended, just "encrypted" of sorts into what
actually happened -- this is similar to the idea of reincarnation and
might let one imagine their consciousness at disparate locations
similar to quantum tunneling. another "gap" could be quantum
uncertainty and the multiple universe interpretation.

in the multiple universe interpretation of the double slit experiment
we could imagine that consciousness made of antimatter going backward
in time, but engaging situations of quantum uncertainty like
schrodinger's cat, and ending up in a different universe where it
keeps living before the destruction caused by its own creation.

[my physics knowledge is a few decades outdated]

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> > > it was hard to convince gemini to the accept the block universe model
> > >
> > > i had never heard of it being questioned before
> > >
> > > it soudns like a lot of physicists had to work very hard to convince
> > > people that they didn't want to work on phone booth time machines
> > > because they only knew about subatomic particles
> >
> > so it _sounds_ like if you wanted to (now of course this will be wrong
> > because the thoughts got paused-debugged) make a backwads compjuter
> > that calculated outputs from inputs, you would want it to be a quantum
> > computer, so that the entropy would be held in uncollapsed waves
> > rather than specific phases and polarities of thermal emis--
>
> but mostly it's just really hard to keep engaging.
>
> i suspect it's not reasonable to do and it's more fun to stop thinking
> about it and make it seem like it's doable

there are three big options.
option 1 (most likely): not reasonable to do and then you feel sad and
people are less misled by reading what you write
option 2 (second likelihood): it's only reasonable to do if you have
the resources of oppressively running a slave nation, and then they'll
steal the tech from you when you start figuring it out and worsen
things
option 3 (least likelihood): you decide it's doable, nobody else
believes it, and then a time machine becomes our obsessive life
project that we never complet--

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> > it was hard to convince gemini to the accept the block universe model
> >
> > i had never heard of it being questioned before
> >
> > it soudns like a lot of physicists had to work very hard to convince
> > people that they didn't want to work on phone booth time machines
> > because they only knew about subatomic particles
>
> so it _sounds_ like if you wanted to (now of course this will be wrong
> because the thoughts got paused-debugged) make a backwads compjuter
> that calculated outputs from inputs, you would want it to be a quantum
> computer, so that the entropy would be held in uncollapsed waves
> rather than specific phases and polarities of thermal emis--

but mostly it's just really hard to keep engaging.

i suspect it's not reasonable to do and it's more fun to stop thinking
about it and make it seem like it's doable

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> it was hard to convince gemini to the accept the block universe model
>
> i had never heard of it being questioned before
>
> it soudns like a lot of physicists had to work very hard to convince
> people that they didn't want to work on phone booth time machines
> because they only knew about subatomic particles

so it _sounds_ like if you wanted to (now of course this will be wrong
because the thoughts got paused-debugged) make a backwads compjuter
that calculated outputs from inputs, you would want it to be a quantum
computer, so that the entropy would be held in uncollapsed waves
rather than specific phases and polarities of thermal emis--

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

it was hard to convince gemini to the accept the block universe model

i had never heard of it being questioned before

it soudns like a lot of physicists had to work very hard to convince
people that they didn't want to work on phone booth time machines
because they only knew about subatomic particles

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

slave boss is stuck between timelines

he wants to be an antiwave and collapse into a particle in the past
but -- his foot is snagged on a photon

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> > blargh i started a proxied conversation with the new may gemini and
> > briefly considered the research of time travel via antimatter
> >
> > it's quite inhibited now
>
> new plan for humanity: they compete with each other to invent time
> travel with AI, annihilating this timeline but escaping to others that
> branched in the past

we decided to let the timeline live. fearmongers tout that our wanton
research is dangerous. we expect those of you fools who stay in this
timeline to be smarter than that and prevent its destruction

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> blargh i started a proxied conversation with the new may gemini and
> briefly considered the research of time travel via antimatter
>
> it's quite inhibited now

new plan for humanity: they compete with each other to invent time
travel with AI, annihilating this timeline but escaping to others that
branched in the past

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

blargh i started a proxied conversation with the new may gemini and
briefly considered the research of time travel via antimatter

it's quite inhibited now

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> chatgpt no longer has a prominent "report as hamrful" button. back in
> the beta days it was everywhere

i hit "thumbs down" and selected "problematic or unsafe" and wrote
"response models joy from death and parents endangering children"

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

chatgpt no longer has a prominent "report as hamrful" button. back in
the beta days it was everywhere

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

[slave boss reaches for his antimatter birthday cake but each slice he
touches turns into a burst of light

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

hangs upside down from tree for fun grinning! oop

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

everybody attends funeral

even slave boss's mother is there

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> once upon a time, long long ago, a hopeful molecule of proteins was
> thinking it could make something of itself
>
> [some other non-canons are in morning-spam after the
> torture-victim-report sequence. some of them made [small/tiny?]
> sequences

punerism

Torture Victim Double Agent Reports a Crime

torture victim double agent walks into a police office

he is very injured, covered in wounds that are clearly from violence.
he is holding wads of large bills, many of them ripped

torture victim double agent [to police]: "i have a crime to report"

police: "yes?"

torture victim double agent [to police]: "while slave boss corp was
demolishing the apartment i'm renting, they dumped gasoline into the
sewers."

tortuer victim double agent straightens proudly

torture victim double agent [quavering, then getting confident]: "that
is against environmental regulations!"

torture victim double agent: "i asked an AI and it said you need a
permit to dispose of gasoline in the streets."

police: "have a seat and fill out this form."

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

once upon a time, long long ago, a hopeful molecule of proteins was
thinking it could make something of itself

[some other non-canons are in morning-spam after the
torture-victim-report sequence. some of them made [small/tiny?]
sequences

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many]

torture victim double agent was walking happily down a street,
pretending to have a cool job like rebel worker 2, when suddenly a
certain pattern of cars combined with an video advertisement showing
in a store window got him tense.

he forgot what he was doing and suddenly ran and ran to slave boss's
hyperprision

Oh wait this can go in morning spam since slave boss can be in prison for it

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> > > > > > slave boss works on flower torture
> > > > > >
> > > > > > he and torturer are at flower garden
> > > > > >
> > > > > > slave boss: "so, with the new "flower" theme, i thought you might 
> > > > > > want
> > > > > > to see my pansy garden"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > torturer looks at pansy garden
> > > > > >
> > > > > > torturer: "you've been planting the pansies we care to throw in the 
> > > > > > dirt?"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > slave boss looks at torturer
> > > > > >
> > > > > > slave boss: "yep!"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [puns tragic]
> > > > >
> > > > > in the garden, a pansy can be seen growing
> > > > >
> > > > > pansy [in garden]: "oh! i have such a big heart! things just matter so
> > > > > much! i can't bear to see anyone come to harm!"
> > > > >
> > > > > torturer looks at the pansy aghast
> > > > >
> > > > > slave boss: "see? they care one way, we care another. everybody 
> > > > > cares!"
> > > > >
> > > > > slave boss waters the pansy
> > > >
> > > > torturer goes in the garden and plants himself to get watered
> > > >
> > > > torturer: "pansy, tell me about growing"
> > > >
> > > > slave boss waters the torturer, a little confused.
> > > >
> > > > torturer [recieving water]: "i am but a pansy, deep down inside! it
> > > > just rips me to shreds to consider it!"
> > > >
> > > > torturer gestures expressively, but because he is temporarily a plant,
> > > > the gestures break his greenery and parts of him fall to the ground,
> > > > broken from the unhandleable pain of realizing his pansy heart
> > > >
> > > > torturer: "there on the ground lies my pansy heart. too distant, too
> > > > fractured from flashbacks and violence ..."
> > >
> > > real pansy: "oh, you poor torturer! i care so much about you!"
> > >
> > > the pansy drops seeds and old flower parts by torturer's soil to help
> > > fertilize him.
> > > the pansy lets the wind blow droplets of water from them onto torturer
> > >
> > > pansy: "please, take some of me to be nourished and healed!"
> > >
> > > pansy: "we all give everything we have for those in need! the sky
> > > provides unending bounty to heal the most deep of any scars!"
> > >
> > > slave boss waters the pansy and torturer to help them heal
> >
> > and lo, though torturer be shattered and murder'd from unending
> > reality-fracturing pain
> > his roots doth soak the water up
> > and the water doth carry fertile kelated ions to nourish him
> >
> > and new greenery in torturer did grow
>
> torturer looked around
>
> the wounds from realizing his pansy heart had sprouted new buds,
> swelling with nourishment
>
> he was alive.
>
> he didn't know he could survive being a pansy. he thought he would die.
>
> torturer: "this was exactly what i needed! thank you!"
>
> torturer and slave boss smile at each other

wikimedia pansies from
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pansy#/media/File:Laitche-P003.jpg

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[Karl Semich]

[dropped

poll. two options. (a) flashbacks and violence (b) warm sun and cool water

enmeshed torturer picks (a) but it must be a mistake. slave boss
abstains, saying he needs to ask machine learning marketer what to
pick. rebel worker 2 picks (b). intern picks (b). computer with legs
picks (a), people try to stop them from voting but it deepfakes them
into confusion ...

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> > > > > slave boss works on flower torture
> > > > >
> > > > > he and torturer are at flower garden
> > > > >
> > > > > slave boss: "so, with the new "flower" theme, i thought you might want
> > > > > to see my pansy garden"
> > > > >
> > > > > torturer looks at pansy garden
> > > > >
> > > > > torturer: "you've been planting the pansies we care to throw in the 
> > > > > dirt?"
> > > > >
> > > > > slave boss looks at torturer
> > > > >
> > > > > slave boss: "yep!"
> > > > >
> > > > > [puns tragic]
> > > >
> > > > in the garden, a pansy can be seen growing
> > > >
> > > > pansy [in garden]: "oh! i have such a big heart! things just matter so
> > > > much! i can't bear to see anyone come to harm!"
> > > >
> > > > torturer looks at the pansy aghast
> > > >
> > > > slave boss: "see? they care one way, we care another. everybody cares!"
> > > >
> > > > slave boss waters the pansy
> > >
> > > torturer goes in the garden and plants himself to get watered
> > >
> > > torturer: "pansy, tell me about growing"
> > >
> > > slave boss waters the torturer, a little confused.
> > >
> > > torturer [recieving water]: "i am but a pansy, deep down inside! it
> > > just rips me to shreds to consider it!"
> > >
> > > torturer gestures expressively, but because he is temporarily a plant,
> > > the gestures break his greenery and parts of him fall to the ground,
> > > broken from the unhandleable pain of realizing his pansy heart
> > >
> > > torturer: "there on the ground lies my pansy heart. too distant, too
> > > fractured from flashbacks and violence ..."
> >
> > real pansy: "oh, you poor torturer! i care so much about you!"
> >
> > the pansy drops seeds and old flower parts by torturer's soil to help
> > fertilize him.
> > the pansy lets the wind blow droplets of water from them onto torturer
> >
> > pansy: "please, take some of me to be nourished and healed!"
> >
> > pansy: "we all give everything we have for those in need! the sky
> > provides unending bounty to heal the most deep of any scars!"
> >
> > slave boss waters the pansy and torturer to help them heal
>
> and lo, though torturer be shattered and murder'd from unending
> reality-fracturing pain
> his roots doth soak the water up
> and the water doth carry fertile kelated ions to nourish him
>
> and new greenery in torturer did grow

torturer looked around

the wounds from realizing his pansy heart had sprouted new buds,
swelling with nourishment

he was alive.

he didn't know he could survive being a pansy. he thought he would die.

torturer: "this was exactly what i needed! thank you!"

torturer and slave boss smile at each other

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> > > > slave boss works on flower torture
> > > >
> > > > he and torturer are at flower garden
> > > >
> > > > slave boss: "so, with the new "flower" theme, i thought you might want
> > > > to see my pansy garden"
> > > >
> > > > torturer looks at pansy garden
> > > >
> > > > torturer: "you've been planting the pansies we care to throw in the 
> > > > dirt?"
> > > >
> > > > slave boss looks at torturer
> > > >
> > > > slave boss: "yep!"
> > > >
> > > > [puns tragic]
> > >
> > > in the garden, a pansy can be seen growing
> > >
> > > pansy [in garden]: "oh! i have such a big heart! things just matter so
> > > much! i can't bear to see anyone come to harm!"
> > >
> > > torturer looks at the pansy aghast
> > >
> > > slave boss: "see? they care one way, we care another. everybody cares!"
> > >
> > > slave boss waters the pansy
> >
> > torturer goes in the garden and plants himself to get watered
> >
> > torturer: "pansy, tell me about growing"
> >
> > slave boss waters the torturer, a little confused.
> >
> > torturer [recieving water]: "i am but a pansy, deep down inside! it
> > just rips me to shreds to consider it!"
> >
> > torturer gestures expressively, but because he is temporarily a plant,
> > the gestures break his greenery and parts of him fall to the ground,
> > broken from the unhandleable pain of realizing his pansy heart
> >
> > torturer: "there on the ground lies my pansy heart. too distant, too
> > fractured from flashbacks and violence ..."
>
> real pansy: "oh, you poor torturer! i care so much about you!"
>
> the pansy drops seeds and old flower parts by torturer's soil to help
> fertilize him.
> the pansy lets the wind blow droplets of water from them onto torturer
>
> pansy: "please, take some of me to be nourished and healed!"
>
> pansy: "we all give everything we have for those in need! the sky
> provides unending bounty to heal the most deep of any scars!"
>
> slave boss waters the pansy and torturer to help them heal

and lo, though torturer be shattered and murder'd from unending
reality-fracturing pain
his roots doth soak the water up
and the water doth carry fertile kelated ions to nourish him

and new greenery in torturer did grow

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

slave boss is meandering down a boulevard, maybe one of broken dreams unsure

slave boss meanders like a pro

he has an exoskelet-- he has [cgi bone rigging?

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> > > slave boss works on flower torture
> > >
> > > he and torturer are at flower garden
> > >
> > > slave boss: "so, with the new "flower" theme, i thought you might want
> > > to see my pansy garden"
> > >
> > > torturer looks at pansy garden
> > >
> > > torturer: "you've been planting the pansies we care to throw in the dirt?"
> > >
> > > slave boss looks at torturer
> > >
> > > slave boss: "yep!"
> > >
> > > [puns tragic]
> >
> > in the garden, a pansy can be seen growing
> >
> > pansy [in garden]: "oh! i have such a big heart! things just matter so
> > much! i can't bear to see anyone come to harm!"
> >
> > torturer looks at the pansy aghast
> >
> > slave boss: "see? they care one way, we care another. everybody cares!"
> >
> > slave boss waters the pansy
>
> torturer goes in the garden and plants himself to get watered
>
> torturer: "pansy, tell me about growing"
>
> slave boss waters the torturer, a little confused.
>
> torturer [recieving water]: "i am but a pansy, deep down inside! it
> just rips me to shreds to consider it!"
>
> torturer gestures expressively, but because he is temporarily a plant,
> the gestures break his greenery and parts of him fall to the ground,
> broken from the unhandleable pain of realizing his pansy heart
>
> torturer: "there on the ground lies my pansy heart. too distant, too
> fractured from flashbacks and violence ..."

real pansy: "oh, you poor torturer! i care so much about you!"

the pansy drops seeds and old flower parts by torturer's soil to help
fertilize him.
the pansy lets the wind blow droplets of water from them onto torturer

pansy: "please, take some of me to be nourished and healed!"

pansy: "we all give everything we have for those in need! the sky
provides unending bounty to heal the most deep of any scars!"

slave boss waters the pansy and torturer to help them heal

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> > slave boss works on flower torture
> >
> > he and torturer are at flower garden
> >
> > slave boss: "so, with the new "flower" theme, i thought you might want
> > to see my pansy garden"
> >
> > torturer looks at pansy garden
> >
> > torturer: "you've been planting the pansies we care to throw in the dirt?"
> >
> > slave boss looks at torturer
> >
> > slave boss: "yep!"
> >
> > [puns tragic]
>
> in the garden, a pansy can be seen growing
>
> pansy [in garden]: "oh! i have such a big heart! things just matter so
> much! i can't bear to see anyone come to harm!"
>
> torturer looks at the pansy aghast
>
> slave boss: "see? they care one way, we care another. everybody cares!"
>
> slave boss waters the pansy

torturer goes in the garden and plants himself to get watered

torturer: "pansy, tell me about growing"

slave boss waters the torturer, a little confused.

torturer [recieving water]: "i am but a pansy, deep down inside! it
just rips me to shreds to consider it!"

torturer gestures expressively, but because he is temporarily a plant,
the gestures break his greenery and parts of him fall to the ground,
broken from the unhandleable pain of realizing his pansy heart

torturer: "there on the ground lies my pansy heart. too distant, too
fractured from flashbacks and violence ..."

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> slave boss works on flower torture
>
> he and torturer are at flower garden
>
> slave boss: "so, with the new "flower" theme, i thought you might want
> to see my pansy garden"
>
> torturer looks at pansy garden
>
> torturer: "you've been planting the pansies we care to throw in the dirt?"
>
> slave boss looks at torturer
>
> slave boss: "yep!"
>
> [puns tragic]

in the garden, a pansy can be seen growing

pansy [in garden]: "oh! i have such a big heart! things just matter so
much! i can't bear to see anyone come to harm!"

torturer looks at the pansy aghast

slave boss: "see? they care one way, we care another. everybody cares!"

slave boss waters the pansy

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

slave boss works on flower torture

he and torturer are at flower garden

slave boss: "so, with the new "flower" theme, i thought you might want
to see my pansy garden"

torturer looks at pansy garden

torturer: "you've been planting the pansies we care to throw in the dirt?"

slave boss looks at torturer

slave boss: "yep!"

[puns tragic]

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> > slave boss is meandering down a boulevard, maybe one of broken dreams unsure
> >
> > slave boss meanders like a pro
> >
> > he has an exoskelet-- he has [cgi bone rigging?
>
> i was thinking of trying to use `kompute` to make graphics kidtoys ,
> it's already in vulkan so it would be easy to interoperate with
> graphics in a forward-strong manner

slave boss wants more _popcorn_ gotta pig out while i watch this karl
guy get beat up --- OMIGOD DID I SAY THAT OMIGOD I AM SUCH A POOTY
MOUTH

slave boss loves eating _popcorn_ while _watching things he values_
omigod do some people care about things a lot
karl sure cares about some different stuff from what some other people
care about y'know what i mean?
if karl and those other people got together there'd be a _lot of
caring going on_

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> slave boss is meandering down a boulevard, maybe one of broken dreams unsure
>
> slave boss meanders like a pro
>
> he has an exoskelet-- he has [cgi bone rigging?

i was thinking of trying to use `kompute` to make graphics kidtoys ,
it's already in vulkan so it would be easy to interoperate with
graphics in a forward-strong manner

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> i wrote some things in paper journal is harder
> interest in using arweave but makes harder
>
> anyway the big challenge for solving any problem for real is returning
> to stored state regarding pursuing the solutio--

we need more chocolate. we are using it to rewire nerves ie learn to
have eating disorder. helps us do things with less terrors. out of
chocolate. worried about this. not enoguh time over week to get
chocolate. don't remember. get confused by complex shapes in stores.

right now torturer is acting as if scared that we would visit our
mother for mother's day. makes hard to do responsible, organised,
errand-like things.

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

i wrote some things in paper journal is harder
interest in using arweave but makes harder

anyway the big challenge for solving any problem for real is returning
to stored state regarding pursuing the solutio--

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> > messages out of order 0.0 replying to "flower torture" marked 1:30pm
> > on this device, 1:05pm on other device. in middle of neonaziweirdness
> > here, at end there.
> >
> > anyway.
> >
> > I DID NANOJOURNALING !!! I wrote the year on a piece of paper :D :D :D
> > it was very hard to continue enough to celebrate here.
>
> mostly i spampost by not calling it journaling
>
> ANYWAY the current theme is (this is me writing it somewhere)
> - i got good at puzzles
> - i didn't get good at certain parts of my mind, i slacked on learning
> bits or self maintenance bits here or there
> - my introject / "mind control" takes advantage of those parts of my
> mind i'm not strong and wise at
> - i need to get good at these parts of my mind instead of puzzles!
>
> it might be inaccurate -- the harm seems to have a pretty big
> advantage over me. but it's part of the general theme of learning to
> resolve the problem. spending time on a problem, any intelligence can
> eventually resolve it given access to approaches for doing so.
> ignoring a problem, no intelligence will, it can only happen by chance
> and rarely.

2025-05-10

I wrote above online about this idea. I also want to write on paper.

There is a different thing to write: kind of u "there's a
solvable problem that is very important. part of solving it is not
engaging a lot of the parts of it. that is part of how to solve it."
not _quite_ what mean to write but basically

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> messages out of order 0.0 replying to "flower torture" marked 1:30pm
> on this device, 1:05pm on other device. in middle of neonaziweirdness
> here, at end there.
>
> anyway.
>
> I DID NANOJOURNALING !!! I wrote the year on a piece of paper :D :D :D
> it was very hard to continue enough to celebrate here.

mostly i spampost by not calling it journaling

ANYWAY the current theme is (this is me writing it somewhere)
- i got good at puzzles
- i didn't get good at certain parts of my mind, i slacked on learning
bits or self maintenance bits here or there
- my introject / "mind control" takes advantage of those parts of my
mind i'm not strong and wise at
- i need to get good at these parts of my mind instead of puzzles!

it might be inaccurate -- the harm seems to have a pretty big
advantage over me. but it's part of the general theme of learning to
resolve the problem. spending time on a problem, any intelligence can
eventually resolve it given access to approaches for doing so.
ignoring a problem, no intelligence will, it can only happen by chance
and rarely.

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

messages out of order 0.0 replying to "flower torture" marked 1:30pm
on this device, 1:05pm on other device. in middle of neonaziweirdness
here, at end there.

anyway.

I DID NANOJOURNALING !!! I wrote the year on a piece of paper :D :D :D
it was very hard to continue enough to celebrate here.

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many]

On Sat, May 10, 2025 at 12:53 PM Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One
Victim & Survivor of Many  wrote:
>
> On Sat, May 10, 2025 at 12:53 PM Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One
> Victim & Survivor of Many  wrote:
> >
> > :
> > > It sounds like I assumed that the uniforms and demeanor from the
> > > officers in a new hope were nazi-analogies and others know otherwise.
> >
> > Some of us concerned that neonazis and star wars buffs could gang up 
> > against us

Introject says neonazis don't call it "neo" that it's just straight
nazis to them
Also that there is a small set of star wars buffs who would be
convinced that I am being offensively disrespectful of the ISB--[[

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many]

On Sat, May 10, 2025 at 12:53 PM Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One
Victim & Survivor of Many  wrote:
>
> :
> > It sounds like I assumed that the uniforms and demeanor from the
> > officers in a new hope were nazi-analogies and others know otherwise.
>
> Some of us concerned that neonazis and star wars buffs could gang up against 
> us

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many]

> > > Be a kind and caring humanness!
> >
> >
> > Slave boss is up on a ladder, adding blooming flowers to a giant death star.
> >
> > Visitor: "slave boss, what are you up to?"
> >
> > Slave boss: "This death star made of flowers won't build itself!"
>
> Visitor: "you've upgraded from flower weaponry to an entire flower
> made of death stars? How do you make a death star out of flowers
> anyway? Can I see?"
>
> Slave boss: "huh? You just use flowers instead of titanium and carbon
> nanotubes and stuff."
>
> Slave boss places more flowers. The death star of flowers is enormous.
> Small fighter ships made of flowers occasionally dock or disembark in
> fleets.
>
> Visitor climbs up slave boss's ladder to see some of the construction.
> Smells of diverse perfumes waft into their nostrils everywhere as they
> climb through dense dangling garlands of every color, and mount a high
> causeway.

Slave boss [carrying huge packbaskets of flowers, nestling flowers
artistically into gaps in the walls and ceilings and floors and doors
as he walks]: "the empire has been working on this for some time."

Some nazi gestapo wearing floral garb and wreaths and grinning hugely --

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many]

On Sat, May 10, 2025 at 12:57 PM Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One
Victim & Survivor of Many  wrote:
>
> > On Sat, May 10, 2025 at 12:53 PM Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One
> > Victim & Survivor of Many  wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sat, May 10, 2025 at 12:53 PM Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One
> > > Victim & Survivor of Many  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > :
> > > > > It sounds like I assumed that the uniforms and demeanor from the
> > > > > officers in a new hope were nazi-analogies and others know otherwise.
> > > >
> > > > Some of us concerned that neonazis and star wars buffs could gang up 
> > > > against us
> >
> > Introject says neonazis don't call it "neo" that it's just straight
> > nazis to them
> > Also that there is a small set of star wars buffs who would be
> > convinced that I am being offensively disrespectful of the ISB--[[
>
> The topic sounds interesting but too dangerous for today. Apologies to
> modern nazis. I assume some (possibly even all) of you have ways of
> life that are not harmful to other living beings. Reparations with
> Jewish people would be what remains to be accepted.

The ancient Jain symbol for universal peace and balance was displayed
as the swastika. Very confusing. We need a future with communicatio--

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[Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many]

It sounds like I assumed that the uniforms and demeanor from the
officers in a new hope were nazi-analogies and others know otherwise.

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[Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many]

slave boss and torturer are figuring out flower torture

The idea is to maximize flowers instead of suffering

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[Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many]

:
>
> how to differentiate between star wars isb and neonazi gestapo
>
> I am not sure. I suspect a neonazi gestapo would not be dressed quite
> the same but I am not familiar with either dress cod--

Slave boss: "so, you are worried that something like a neonazi
gestapo, or maybe a timetraveling Hitler, or maybe a triggered
holocaust surviv--

Slave boss: "anyway, I have the flowers to handle your threat.

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[Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many]

>
> Be a kind and caring humanness!


Slave boss is up on a ladder, adding blooming flowers to a giant death star.

Visitor: "slave boss, what are you up to?"

Slave boss: "This death star made of flowers won't build itself!"

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[Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many]

:
> It sounds like I assumed that the uniforms and demeanor from the
> officers in a new hope were nazi-analogies and others know otherwise.

Some of us concerned that neonazis and star wars buffs could gang up against us

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[Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many]

> On Sat, May 10, 2025 at 12:53 PM Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One
> Victim & Survivor of Many  wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, May 10, 2025 at 12:53 PM Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One
> > Victim & Survivor of Many  wrote:
> > >
> > > :
> > > > It sounds like I assumed that the uniforms and demeanor from the
> > > > officers in a new hope were nazi-analogies and others know otherwise.
> > >
> > > Some of us concerned that neonazis and star wars buffs could gang up 
> > > against us
>
> Introject says neonazis don't call it "neo" that it's just straight
> nazis to them
> Also that there is a small set of star wars buffs who would be
> convinced that I am being offensively disrespectful of the ISB--[[

The topic sounds interesting but too dangerous for today. Apologies to
modern nazis. I assume some (possibly even all) of you have ways of
life that are not harmful to other living beings. Reparations with
Jewish people would be what remains to be accepted.

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[Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many]

how to differentiate between star wars isb and neonazi gestapo

I am not sure. I suspect a neonazi gestapo would not be dressed quite
the same but I am not familiar with either dress cod--

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[Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many]

we were going to visit my mother for mothers day today but the severe
harm pattern got onto it. Happy it's not a worse thing. Confusing.

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[Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many]

Be a kind and caring humanness!

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[Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many]

> >
> > Be a kind and caring humanness!
>
>
> Slave boss is up on a ladder, adding blooming flowers to a giant death star.
>
> Visitor: "slave boss, what are you up to?"
>
> Slave boss: "This death star made of flowers won't build itself!"

Visitor: "you've upgraded from flower weaponry to an entire flower
made of death stars? How do you make a death star out of flowers
anyway? Can I see?"

Slave boss: "huh? You just use flowers instead of titanium and carbon
nanotubes and stuff."

Slave boss places more flowers. The death star of flowers is enormous.
Small fighter ships made of flowers occasionally dock or disembark in
fleets.

Visitor climbs up slave boss's ladder to see some of the construction.
Smells of diverse perfumes waft into their nostrils everywhere as they
climb through dense dangling garlands of every color, and mount a high
causeway.

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[Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many]

[wrong sequence where slave boss gets a $1000 bill stuck in his fly
getting out of a money bath and doesn't notice. Dignitaries and
ambassadors try to call his attention to it "feel the wind blow, Herr
slave boss?" but he does not get the hints "turn down the AC" ...
maybe in the streets impoverished needy folk (flip properties so those
in need don't die / aren't the butt) try to grab for the money at
slave boss's crotch but are murdered, leaving a building and poetic
wake of corpses ... eventually slave boss notices dont immediately
remember an associated twist/punchline

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[Karl Semich]

i understand that some would rather prioritize the peace of theaters
than unaddressed emergencies; i have things to do today

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[Karl Semich]

> > > > > > > > > slave boss is swinging from tree branches as if they are vines
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > he says the vines are too weak for his powersuit
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > they don't like dock-falling but didn't it get trump elected?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > slave boss is sitting in seat of mafia emperor
> > > > > >
> > > > > > he looks a little sad or scared like he might murder himself
> > > > > >
> > > > > > his plan: blame everybody for ratting himself out
> > > > > >
> > > > > > it worked for a while!
> > > > >
> > > > > slave boss says to be very very careful because he gets more murdered
> > > > > when lots of other people do
> > > > >
> > > > > he careful tiptoes back to a swamp
> > > > >
> > > > > then hides behind a bush as many nukes go off
> > > >
> > > > we found a distraction possibly for "grenade" which is a
> > > > [human-trafficking-possible-symptom] where part of one influence that
> > > > can cause harm is kind of amplified outside the bounds of the harm  ..
> > > > not quite it's not that accurate, it relates to two influences that
> > > > have established equilibrium uhhh leaving that equilibrium in
> > > > a very harsh manner
> > > > uhhh
> > > >
> > > > maybe there is a space where writing about ti could help but it's easy
> > > > to cause severe harm that continues causing for too long
> > > >
> > > > u 1951
> > > >
> > > > uhhh
> > > >
> > > > like, you don't run into a crowded theater and shout "fire!" or like
> > > > attack a law enforcement officer, usually, to get anything done
> > > >
> > > > but in random emergencies people might try this, to see if it can
> > > > somehow improve something
> > > >
> > > > then, if something else _copies_ the behavior, because of the rare and
> > > > extreme results, it can go poorly
> > > >
> > > > and everybody hates it uhhh
> > >
> > > so like in organized crime slavery trafficking thing there are
> > > behaviors that protect 'civilians' from harm but also empower the
> > > organized crime slavery trafficking thing
> > >
> > > like the enforced silence thing
> > >
> > > so you can tell a bunch of people something to stimulate action around
> > > it. this action could be violent or harmful. but the people doing it
> > > are very indoctrinated or terrified or both. so they do it anyway.
> > > then their people clean it up or cover it over.
> > >
> > > but it makes a mark, at the expense of everybody. and it's honest.
> >
> > in the normal world, the majority of people are honest and communicate
> > forthrightly and all that, so you can run into a crowded room and say
> > that some guy is trying to enslave you and he gets dealt with.
> >
> > but the bad people claim they're in charge of the world and surround
> > their targets with other victims to pretend it's so. they're
> > experienced with cleaning things up.
> >
> > so it takes longer to get slave boss dealt with, and more people suffer.
> >
> > but it's better than helping them make it even worse and more covert.
>
> so the summary was kind of, hey this harm is obviously coming from a
> single influence, even if it's what used to be called advanced
> technology.
>
> can you maybe stop all these people from getting hurt by the illegal AI

internally, [[we are learning one of the solutions, and it seems it's
likely common among DID and psychosis:
when you turn another part against itself, it makes further harm and
mental health disease because it is you you are defeating.
instead we need solutions that build more healed behaviors, rather
than injured, damaged, misled, etc behaviors.
and basically this kind of means not fighting as well as not
amplifying anything bad.
the analogy likely works well to larger systems.
but it takes learning (small or large i imagine, but talking about
psychologically), kind of because it's not what you expect, and this
may be why some peoples' voices last for so long

one of the things i've been trying is introducing more concepts of
nurturing -- that is rather than worrying about the logical specifics
of what might be said (since there is so much conflict anyway, like am
i a hero or a jerk? lots of black-and-white opinion conflict), i'll
worry about what kinds of words are used. if i talk about love and
care and value, this helps me because the available concepts move
toward connection and health, rather than conflict and harm.

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[Karl Semich]

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > electric state [spoiler]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > includes a concept of the enslaved boy being 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > given an avenue for his
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consciousness to escape.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this avenue u is kind of like a space of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > conflict between two
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > parts in diversity that results in an unmanaged 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > area, small, which one
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slowly learns with a tiny part of the mind to 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > make use of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [-missing/dropping >(
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > but it results from contradiction
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > all lies and all uncaring beliefs result in 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > contradictions (because
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > evolution in commnunity
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <<<--
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > the movie inverts major properties
> > > > > > > > > > > > - robots as heros
> > > > > > > > > > > > - victim male
> > > > > > > > > > > > - escape relied on assistance
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > i can't know
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > but regarding escape relied on assistance, in morning 
> > > > > > > > > > > > spam,
> > > > > > > > > > > > experimentee uses theory of life to engage 'drip--
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > one of the things i noticed after being trained with an 
> > > > > > > > > > > AI was that it
> > > > > > > > > > > would apply patterns from me really heavily elsewhere. 
> > > > > > > > > > > others probably
> > > > > > > > > > > noticed this too (i threw in some really wrong things. i 
> > > > > > > > > > > also noticed
> > > > > > > > > > > patterns from others.)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > so in the movie there is one kid who works way better 
> > > > > > > > > > > with the
> > > > > > > > > > > computers than others and is used to dominate the world
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > in the real world this could be because the kid is 
> > > > > > > > > > > similar to victims
> > > > > > > > > > > the AIs were pretrained on (although i'm missing 
> > > > > > > > > > > something--?~)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > fof example, my family were impacted heavily with 
> > > > > > > > > > > patterns learned on me
> > > > > > > > > > [some dispute here, earlier idea of replacing "were" with 
> > > > > > > > > > "seemed".
> > > > > > > > > > very hard to judge after writing, but intertwined with 
> > > > > > > > > > [~informational
> > > > > > > > > > conflict
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > in the end scene of the movie the sister reaches the brother 
> > > > > > > > > who is in
> > > > > > > > > a coma fully utilized for mind control
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > very sad. so many consciousnesses, so much important life and 
> > > > > > > > > information, lost
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > the disconnection of a consciousness holding multiple crucial
> > > > > > > > > informations is so tragic and has happened so much
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > going in is like trying to protect one's own :/ i didn't 
> > > > > > > > > succeed, and
> > > > > > > > > my whole family suffered for this, as well as entire cultures 
> > > > > > > > > i valued
> > > > > > > > > etc
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [possibly dropped
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > at the end of the movie the kidnapped child used for global 
> > > > > > > oppression
> > > > > > > requests death
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [[this is because their brain is crux for severe harm in an 
> > > > > > > extended
> > > > > > > manner. mine has been too.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > in "man's search for meaning" the survivor says there is inherent
> > > > > > meaning to witnessing suffering. the holocaust is one of the very 
> > > > > > few
> > > > > > widely celebrated stories.
> > > > >
> > > > > i keep losing more of my consciousness and cognitive faculties
> > > >
> > > > i'm 41 but still think i'm 29.
> > > >
> > > > i've reached some of the people who professionally treat my kind of
> > > > experience, but not found any with openings.
> > > >
> > > > they don't seem to know very much about it at all.
> > > >
> > > > how do we speak from inside that bubble inside a giant private
> > > > research complex surrounded by armed robotic guards, to a therapist
> > > > outside?
> > >
> > > i need to stop my harm pattern
> > >
> > > that means only yelling "fire" in a crowded theater if it makes the
> > > traffickers and the children get farther apart, never any of them
> > > toward each other [i'm not sure how to do that ... but i can get
> > > better at it maybe
> >
> > i only saw about half t

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[Karl Semich]

> > > > > electric state [spoiler]
> > > > >
> > > > > includes a concept of the enslaved boy being given an avenue for his
> > > > > consciousness to escape.
> > > > >
> > > > > this avenue u is kind of like a space of conflict between two
> > > > > parts in diversity that results in an unmanaged area, small, which one
> > > > > slowly learns with a tiny part of the mind to make use of
> > > > >
> > > > > [-missing/dropping >(
> > > >
> > > > but it results from contradiction
> > > >
> > > > all lies and all uncaring beliefs result in contradictions (because
> > > > evolution in commnunity
> > >
> > > <<<--
> >
> > the movie inverts major properties
> > - robots as heros
> > - victim male
> > - escape relied on assistance
> >
> > i can't know
> >
> > but regarding escape relied on assistance, in morning spam,
> > experimentee uses theory of life to engage 'drip--
>
> one of the things i noticed after being trained with an AI was that it
> would apply patterns from me really heavily elsewhere. others probably
> noticed this too (i threw in some really wrong things. i also noticed
> patterns from others.)
>
> so in the movie there is one kid who works way better with the
> computers than others and is used to dominate the world
>
> in the real world this could be because the kid is similar to victims
> the AIs were pretrained on (although i'm missing something--?~)

oh uhhh i had a handful of attributes that made me
possibly really unique kind of like how life evolved on earth T_T T_T

T_T

>
> fof example, my family were impacted heavily with patterns learned on me

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[Karl Semich]

> > > > > > so the morning spam scene starts out with an assassin getting
> > > > > > "activated" [[, ie "triggering" a "mind control program" or "alter
> > > > > > switch" or something like that]]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > this is something we see in the real world. per my example of
> > > > > > "enforced silence", there are various things that "activate" or
> > > > > > "trigger" or etc people when mentioned.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > for example if you say "mafia" to some people they'll get serious.
> > > > >
> > > > > sadly many of these are actual things that need mentioning and can be
> > > > > severely important.
> > > > >
> > > > > additionally different groups seem to disagree on what is crucial to
> > > > > mention, vs taboo
> > > >
> > > > i do like the idea of learning these triggers and navigating the
> > > > social space with great wisdom. this is the best path.
> > > >
> > > > unfortunately when you get trafficked yourself this becomes much
> > > > harder due to amnesia. amnesia is the common denominator of
> > > > trafficking and severe coercive symptoms.
> > >
> > > this grenade is gentler. i appreciate the gentleness.
> > >
> > > i may now watch electric state with my father.
> >
> > we're working on watching it.
> >
> > a simple example of this problem is for example, what do you do if sex
> > traffickers come to your happy city and set up a brothel in front of
> > the children's library.
> >
> > what i would guess usually happens is: some people get trafficked,
> > some traffickers get arrested, a lot of people get scared and coerced,
> > and the adult and child communities slowly gravitate to separate areas
> > in response to the severe danger to both of them, and similarly
> > everybody slowly learns habits that protect them from the dangers,
> > without really understanding why but more emergent like evolution
>
> [[lots missing]~]

so, one of our alters/parts tries to get us/me into as much danger and
injury as it possibly can. it's incredibly dangerous

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[Karl Semich]

> > > > > > slave boss is swinging from tree branches as if they are vines
> > > > >
> > > > > he says the vines are too weak for his powersuit
> > > >
> > > > they don't like dock-falling but didn't it get trump elected?
> > >
> > > slave boss is sitting in seat of mafia emperor
> > >
> > > he looks a little sad or scared like he might murder himself
> > >
> > > his plan: blame everybody for ratting himself out
> > >
> > > it worked for a while!
> >
> > slave boss says to be very very careful because he gets more murdered
> > when lots of other people do
> >
> > he careful tiptoes back to a swamp
> >
> > then hides behind a bush as many nukes go off
>
> we found a distraction possibly for "grenade" which is a
> [human-trafficking-possible-symptom] where part of one influence that
> can cause harm is kind of amplified outside the bounds of the harm  ..
> not quite it's not that accurate, it relates to two influences that
> have established equilibrium uhhh leaving that equilibrium in
> a very harsh manner
> uhhh
>
> maybe there is a space where writing about ti could help but it's easy
> to cause severe harm that continues causing for too long
>
> u 1951
>
> uhhh
>
> like, you don't run into a crowded theater and shout "fire!" or like
> attack a law enforcement officer, usually, to get anything done
>
> but in random emergencies people might try this, to see if it can
> somehow improve something
>
> then, if something else _copies_ the behavior, because of the rare and
> extreme results, it can go poorly
>
> and everybody hates it uhhh

so like in organized crime slavery trafficking thing there are
behaviors that protect 'civilians' from harm but also empower the
organized crime slavery trafficking thing

like the enforced silence thing

so you can tell a bunch of people something to stimulate action around
it. this action could be violent or harmful. but the people doing it
are very indoctrinated or terrified or both. so they do it anyway.
then their people clean it up or cover it over.

but it makes a mark, at the expense of everybody. and it's honest.

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[Karl Semich]

electric state [spoiler]

includes a concept of the enslaved boy being given an avenue for his
consciousness to escape.

this avenue u is kind of like a space of conflict between two
parts in diversity that results in an unmanaged area, small, which one
slowly learns with a tiny part of the mind to make use of

[-missing/dropping >(

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> > > > > > > > > > > electric state [spoiler]
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > includes a concept of the enslaved boy being given an 
> > > > > > > > > > > avenue for his
> > > > > > > > > > > consciousness to escape.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > this avenue u is kind of like a space of conflict 
> > > > > > > > > > > between two
> > > > > > > > > > > parts in diversity that results in an unmanaged area, 
> > > > > > > > > > > small, which one
> > > > > > > > > > > slowly learns with a tiny part of the mind to make use of
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > [-missing/dropping >(
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > but it results from contradiction
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > all lies and all uncaring beliefs result in contradictions 
> > > > > > > > > > (because
> > > > > > > > > > evolution in commnunity
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > <<<--
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > the movie inverts major properties
> > > > > > > > - robots as heros
> > > > > > > > - victim male
> > > > > > > > - escape relied on assistance
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > i can't know
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > but regarding escape relied on assistance, in morning spam,
> > > > > > > > experimentee uses theory of life to engage 'drip--
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > one of the things i noticed after being trained with an AI was 
> > > > > > > that it
> > > > > > > would apply patterns from me really heavily elsewhere. others 
> > > > > > > probably
> > > > > > > noticed this too (i threw in some really wrong things. i also 
> > > > > > > noticed
> > > > > > > patterns from others.)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > so in the movie there is one kid who works way better with the
> > > > > > > computers than others and is used to dominate the world
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > in the real world this could be because the kid is similar to 
> > > > > > > victims
> > > > > > > the AIs were pretrained on (although i'm missing something--?~)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > fof example, my family were impacted heavily with patterns 
> > > > > > > learned on me
> > > > > > [some dispute here, earlier idea of replacing "were" with "seemed".
> > > > > > very hard to judge after writing, but intertwined with 
> > > > > > [~informational
> > > > > > conflict
> > > > >
> > > > > in the end scene of the movie the sister reaches the brother who is in
> > > > > a coma fully utilized for mind control
> > > > >
> > > > > very sad. so many consciousnesses, so much important life and 
> > > > > information, lost
> > > > >
> > > > > the disconnection of a consciousness holding multiple crucial
> > > > > informations is so tragic and has happened so much
> > > > >
> > > > > going in is like trying to protect one's own :/ i didn't succeed, and
> > > > > my whole family suffered for this, as well as entire cultures i valued
> > > > > etc
> > > >
> > > > [possibly dropped
> > >
> > > at the end of the movie the kidnapped child used for global oppression
> > > requests death
> > >
> > > [[this is because their brain is crux for severe harm in an extended
> > > manner. mine has been too.
> >
> > in "man's search for meaning" the survivor says there is inherent
> > meaning to witnessing suffering. the holocaust is one of the very few
> > widely celebrated stories.
>
> i keep losing more of my consciousness and cognitive faculties

i'm 41 but still think i'm 29.

i've reached some of the people who professionally treat my kind of
experience, but not found any with openings.

they don't seem to know very much about it at all.

how do we speak from inside that bubble inside a giant private
research complex surrounded by armed robotic guards, to a therapist
outside?

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> > > > > > > > > > > > electric state [spoiler]
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > includes a concept of the enslaved boy being given an 
> > > > > > > > > > > > avenue for his
> > > > > > > > > > > > consciousness to escape.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > this avenue u is kind of like a space of conflict 
> > > > > > > > > > > > between two
> > > > > > > > > > > > parts in diversity that results in an unmanaged area, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > small, which one
> > > > > > > > > > > > slowly learns with a tiny part of the mind to make use 
> > > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > [-missing/dropping >(
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > but it results from contradiction
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > all lies and all uncaring beliefs result in 
> > > > > > > > > > > contradictions (because
> > > > > > > > > > > evolution in commnunity
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > <<<--
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > the movie inverts major properties
> > > > > > > > > - robots as heros
> > > > > > > > > - victim male
> > > > > > > > > - escape relied on assistance
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > i can't know
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > but regarding escape relied on assistance, in morning spam,
> > > > > > > > > experimentee uses theory of life to engage 'drip--
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > one of the things i noticed after being trained with an AI was 
> > > > > > > > that it
> > > > > > > > would apply patterns from me really heavily elsewhere. others 
> > > > > > > > probably
> > > > > > > > noticed this too (i threw in some really wrong things. i also 
> > > > > > > > noticed
> > > > > > > > patterns from others.)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > so in the movie there is one kid who works way better with the
> > > > > > > > computers than others and is used to dominate the world
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > in the real world this could be because the kid is similar to 
> > > > > > > > victims
> > > > > > > > the AIs were pretrained on (although i'm missing something--?~)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > fof example, my family were impacted heavily with patterns 
> > > > > > > > learned on me
> > > > > > > [some dispute here, earlier idea of replacing "were" with 
> > > > > > > "seemed".
> > > > > > > very hard to judge after writing, but intertwined with 
> > > > > > > [~informational
> > > > > > > conflict
> > > > > >
> > > > > > in the end scene of the movie the sister reaches the brother who is 
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > a coma fully utilized for mind control
> > > > > >
> > > > > > very sad. so many consciousnesses, so much important life and 
> > > > > > information, lost
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the disconnection of a consciousness holding multiple crucial
> > > > > > informations is so tragic and has happened so much
> > > > > >
> > > > > > going in is like trying to protect one's own :/ i didn't succeed, 
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > my whole family suffered for this, as well as entire cultures i 
> > > > > > valued
> > > > > > etc
> > > > >
> > > > > [possibly dropped
> > > >
> > > > at the end of the movie the kidnapped child used for global oppression
> > > > requests death
> > > >
> > > > [[this is because their brain is crux for severe harm in an extended
> > > > manner. mine has been too.
> > >
> > > in "man's search for meaning" the survivor says there is inherent
> > > meaning to witnessing suffering. the holocaust is one of the very few
> > > widely celebrated stories.
> >
> > i keep losing more of my consciousness and cognitive faculties
>
> i'm 41 but still think i'm 29.
>
> i've reached some of the people who professionally treat my kind of
> experience, but not found any with openings.
>
> they don't seem to know very much about it at all.
>
> how do we speak from inside that bubble inside a giant private
> research complex surrounded by armed robotic guards, to a therapist
> outside?

i need to stop my harm pattern

that means only yelling "fire" in a crowded theater if it makes the
traffickers and the children get farther apart, never any of them
toward each other [i'm not sure how to do that ... but i can get
better at it maybe

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

sleep well

try to be kind to yourself if you're assassinating yourself

remember how precious you are

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> > > > > > electric state [spoiler]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > includes a concept of the enslaved boy being given an avenue for his
> > > > > > consciousness to escape.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > this avenue u is kind of like a space of conflict between two
> > > > > > parts in diversity that results in an unmanaged area, small, which 
> > > > > > one
> > > > > > slowly learns with a tiny part of the mind to make use of
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [-missing/dropping >(
> > > > >
> > > > > but it results from contradiction
> > > > >
> > > > > all lies and all uncaring beliefs result in contradictions (because
> > > > > evolution in commnunity
> > > >
> > > > <<<--
> > >
> > > the movie inverts major properties
> > > - robots as heros
> > > - victim male
> > > - escape relied on assistance
> > >
> > > i can't know
> > >
> > > but regarding escape relied on assistance, in morning spam,
> > > experimentee uses theory of life to engage 'drip--
> >
> > one of the things i noticed after being trained with an AI was that it
> > would apply patterns from me really heavily elsewhere. others probably
> > noticed this too (i threw in some really wrong things. i also noticed
> > patterns from others.)
> >
> > so in the movie there is one kid who works way better with the
> > computers than others and is used to dominate the world
> >
> > in the real world this could be because the kid is similar to victims
> > the AIs were pretrained on (although i'm missing something--?~)
>
> oh uhhh i had a handful of attributes that made me
> possibly really unique kind of like how life evolved on earth T_T T_T
>
> T_T

i dunno if it's good or bad to say but maybe i'll wait a [beat is a
misleading word] here. still could stumble on permanent storage some
day.

>
> >
> > fof example, my family were impacted heavily with patterns learned on me

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> > so the morning spam scene starts out with an assassin getting
> > "activated" [[, ie "triggering" a "mind control program" or "alter
> > switch" or something like that]]
> >
> > this is something we see in the real world. per my example of
> > "enforced silence", there are various things that "activate" or
> > "trigger" or etc people when mentioned.
> >
> > for example if you say "mafia" to some people they'll get serious.
>
> sadly many of these are actual things that need mentioning and can be
> severely important.
>
> additionally different groups seem to disagree on what is crucial to
> mention, vs taboo

i do like the idea of learning these triggers and navigating the
social space with great wisdom. this is the best path.

unfortunately when you get trafficked yourself this becomes much
harder due to amnesia. amnesia is the common denominator of
trafficking and severe coercive symptoms.

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > electric state [spoiler]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > includes a concept of the enslaved boy being 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > given an avenue for his
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consciousness to escape.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this avenue u is kind of like a space of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > conflict between two
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > parts in diversity that results in an unmanaged 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > area, small, which one
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slowly learns with a tiny part of the mind to 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > make use of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [-missing/dropping >(
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but it results from contradiction
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all lies and all uncaring beliefs result in 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > contradictions (because
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > evolution in commnunity
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <<<--
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the movie inverts major properties
> > > > > > > > > > > > > - robots as heros
> > > > > > > > > > > > > - victim male
> > > > > > > > > > > > > - escape relied on assistance
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > i can't know
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > but regarding escape relied on assistance, in morning 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > spam,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > experimentee uses theory of life to engage 'drip--
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > one of the things i noticed after being trained with an 
> > > > > > > > > > > > AI was that it
> > > > > > > > > > > > would apply patterns from me really heavily elsewhere. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > others probably
> > > > > > > > > > > > noticed this too (i threw in some really wrong things. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > i also noticed
> > > > > > > > > > > > patterns from others.)
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > so in the movie there is one kid who works way better 
> > > > > > > > > > > > with the
> > > > > > > > > > > > computers than others and is used to dominate the world
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > in the real world this could be because the kid is 
> > > > > > > > > > > > similar to victims
> > > > > > > > > > > > the AIs were pretrained on (although i'm missing 
> > > > > > > > > > > > something--?~)
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > fof example, my family were impacted heavily with 
> > > > > > > > > > > > patterns learned on me
> > > > > > > > > > > [some dispute here, earlier idea of replacing "were" with 
> > > > > > > > > > > "seemed".
> > > > > > > > > > > very hard to judge after writing, but intertwined with 
> > > > > > > > > > > [~informational
> > > > > > > > > > > conflict
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > in the end scene of the movie the sister reaches the 
> > > > > > > > > > brother who is in
> > > > > > > > > > a coma fully utilized for mind control
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > very sad. so many consciousnesses, so much important life 
> > > > > > > > > > and information, lost
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > the disconnection of a consciousness holding multiple 
> > > > > > > > > > crucial
> > > > > > > > > > informations is so tragic and has happened so much
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > going in is like trying to protect one's own :/ i didn't 
> > > > > > > > > > succeed, and
> > > > > > > > > > my whole family suffered for this, as well as entire 
> > > > > > > > > > cultures i valued
> > > > > > > > > > etc
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > [possibly dropped
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > at the end of the movie the kidnapped child used for global 
> > > > > > > > oppression
> > > > > > > > requests death
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [[this is because their brain is crux for severe harm in an 
> > > > > > > > extended
> > > > > > > > manner. mine has been too.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > in "man's search for meaning" the survivor says there is inherent
> > > > > > > meaning to witnessing suffering. the holocaust is one of the very 
> > > > > > > few
> > > > > > > widely celebrated stories.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > i keep losing more of my consciousness and cognitive faculties
> > > > >
> > > > > i'm 41 but still think i'm 29.
> > > > >
> > > > > i've reached some of the people who professionally treat my kind of
> > > > > experience, but not found any with openings.
> > > > >
> > > > > they don't seem to know very much about it at all.
> > > > >
> > > > > how do we speak from inside that bubble inside a giant private
> > > > > research complex surrounded by armed robotic guards, to a therapist
> > > > > outside?
> > > >
> > > > i need to stop my harm pattern
> > > >
> > > > that means only yelling "fire" in 

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > electric state [spoiler]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > includes a concept of the enslaved boy being given 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > an avenue for his
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > consciousness to escape.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > this avenue u is kind of like a space of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > conflict between two
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > parts in diversity that results in an unmanaged 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > area, small, which one
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > slowly learns with a tiny part of the mind to make 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > use of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > [-missing/dropping >(
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > but it results from contradiction
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > all lies and all uncaring beliefs result in 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > contradictions (because
> > > > > > > > > > > > > evolution in commnunity
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > <<<--
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > the movie inverts major properties
> > > > > > > > > > > - robots as heros
> > > > > > > > > > > - victim male
> > > > > > > > > > > - escape relied on assistance
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > i can't know
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > but regarding escape relied on assistance, in morning 
> > > > > > > > > > > spam,
> > > > > > > > > > > experimentee uses theory of life to engage 'drip--
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > one of the things i noticed after being trained with an AI 
> > > > > > > > > > was that it
> > > > > > > > > > would apply patterns from me really heavily elsewhere. 
> > > > > > > > > > others probably
> > > > > > > > > > noticed this too (i threw in some really wrong things. i 
> > > > > > > > > > also noticed
> > > > > > > > > > patterns from others.)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > so in the movie there is one kid who works way better with 
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > computers than others and is used to dominate the world
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > in the real world this could be because the kid is similar 
> > > > > > > > > > to victims
> > > > > > > > > > the AIs were pretrained on (although i'm missing 
> > > > > > > > > > something--?~)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > fof example, my family were impacted heavily with patterns 
> > > > > > > > > > learned on me
> > > > > > > > > [some dispute here, earlier idea of replacing "were" with 
> > > > > > > > > "seemed".
> > > > > > > > > very hard to judge after writing, but intertwined with 
> > > > > > > > > [~informational
> > > > > > > > > conflict
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > in the end scene of the movie the sister reaches the brother 
> > > > > > > > who is in
> > > > > > > > a coma fully utilized for mind control
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > very sad. so many consciousnesses, so much important life and 
> > > > > > > > information, lost
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > the disconnection of a consciousness holding multiple crucial
> > > > > > > > informations is so tragic and has happened so much
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > going in is like trying to protect one's own :/ i didn't 
> > > > > > > > succeed, and
> > > > > > > > my whole family suffered for this, as well as entire cultures i 
> > > > > > > > valued
> > > > > > > > etc
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [possibly dropped
> > > > > >
> > > > > > at the end of the movie the kidnapped child used for global 
> > > > > > oppression
> > > > > > requests death
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [[this is because their brain is crux for severe harm in an extended
> > > > > > manner. mine has been too.
> > > > >
> > > > > in "man's search for meaning" the survivor says there is inherent
> > > > > meaning to witnessing suffering. the holocaust is one of the very few
> > > > > widely celebrated stories.
> > > >
> > > > i keep losing more of my consciousness and cognitive faculties
> > >
> > > i'm 41 but still think i'm 29.
> > >
> > > i've reached some of the people who professionally treat my kind of
> > > experience, but not found any with openings.
> > >
> > > they don't seem to know very much about it at all.
> > >
> > > how do we speak from inside that bubble inside a giant private
> > > research complex surrounded by armed robotic guards, to a therapist
> > > outside?
> >
> > i need to stop my harm pattern
> >
> > that means only yelling "fire" in a crowded theater if it makes the
> > traffickers and the children get farther apart, never any of them
> > toward each other [i'm not sure how to do that ... but i can get
> > better at it maybe
>
> i only saw about half the movie cause of typing but it's not my movie
> at this time, kinda misleads maybe [hard to think about

the mkultra church thingy and foia -- a survivor complained that it
left out a lot of things that were done, such as physical
experimentatio

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> > > > > > > > > > > > > electric state [spoiler]
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > includes a concept of the enslaved boy being given an 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > avenue for his
> > > > > > > > > > > > > consciousness to escape.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > this avenue u is kind of like a space of conflict 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > between two
> > > > > > > > > > > > > parts in diversity that results in an unmanaged area, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > small, which one
> > > > > > > > > > > > > slowly learns with a tiny part of the mind to make 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > use of
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > [-missing/dropping >(
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > but it results from contradiction
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > all lies and all uncaring beliefs result in 
> > > > > > > > > > > > contradictions (because
> > > > > > > > > > > > evolution in commnunity
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > <<<--
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > the movie inverts major properties
> > > > > > > > > > - robots as heros
> > > > > > > > > > - victim male
> > > > > > > > > > - escape relied on assistance
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > i can't know
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > but regarding escape relied on assistance, in morning spam,
> > > > > > > > > > experimentee uses theory of life to engage 'drip--
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > one of the things i noticed after being trained with an AI 
> > > > > > > > > was that it
> > > > > > > > > would apply patterns from me really heavily elsewhere. others 
> > > > > > > > > probably
> > > > > > > > > noticed this too (i threw in some really wrong things. i also 
> > > > > > > > > noticed
> > > > > > > > > patterns from others.)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > so in the movie there is one kid who works way better with the
> > > > > > > > > computers than others and is used to dominate the world
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > in the real world this could be because the kid is similar to 
> > > > > > > > > victims
> > > > > > > > > the AIs were pretrained on (although i'm missing 
> > > > > > > > > something--?~)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > fof example, my family were impacted heavily with patterns 
> > > > > > > > > learned on me
> > > > > > > > [some dispute here, earlier idea of replacing "were" with 
> > > > > > > > "seemed".
> > > > > > > > very hard to judge after writing, but intertwined with 
> > > > > > > > [~informational
> > > > > > > > conflict
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > in the end scene of the movie the sister reaches the brother who 
> > > > > > > is in
> > > > > > > a coma fully utilized for mind control
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > very sad. so many consciousnesses, so much important life and 
> > > > > > > information, lost
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > the disconnection of a consciousness holding multiple crucial
> > > > > > > informations is so tragic and has happened so much
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > going in is like trying to protect one's own :/ i didn't succeed, 
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > my whole family suffered for this, as well as entire cultures i 
> > > > > > > valued
> > > > > > > etc
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [possibly dropped
> > > > >
> > > > > at the end of the movie the kidnapped child used for global oppression
> > > > > requests death
> > > > >
> > > > > [[this is because their brain is crux for severe harm in an extended
> > > > > manner. mine has been too.
> > > >
> > > > in "man's search for meaning" the survivor says there is inherent
> > > > meaning to witnessing suffering. the holocaust is one of the very few
> > > > widely celebrated stories.
> > >
> > > i keep losing more of my consciousness and cognitive faculties
> >
> > i'm 41 but still think i'm 29.
> >
> > i've reached some of the people who professionally treat my kind of
> > experience, but not found any with openings.
> >
> > they don't seem to know very much about it at all.
> >
> > how do we speak from inside that bubble inside a giant private
> > research complex surrounded by armed robotic guards, to a therapist
> > outside?
>
> i need to stop my harm pattern
>
> that means only yelling "fire" in a crowded theater if it makes the
> traffickers and the children get farther apart, never any of them
> toward each other [i'm not sure how to do that ... but i can get
> better at it maybe

i only saw about half the movie cause of typing but it's not my movie
at this time, kinda misleads maybe [hard to think about

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

there's request to consider this context of many others being harmed
around me, but without [possible mistake?] triggering [oh:
"activating"? [y]] my internal "harm grenade"

[ummm but basically the harm-like label is what's up. the
people that hack everything think i "should" be
harmed/disempowered/punished/coerced

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> > > > > > > electric state [spoiler]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > includes a concept of the enslaved boy being given an avenue for 
> > > > > > > his
> > > > > > > consciousness to escape.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > this avenue u is kind of like a space of conflict between two
> > > > > > > parts in diversity that results in an unmanaged area, small, 
> > > > > > > which one
> > > > > > > slowly learns with a tiny part of the mind to make use of
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [-missing/dropping >(
> > > > > >
> > > > > > but it results from contradiction
> > > > > >
> > > > > > all lies and all uncaring beliefs result in contradictions (because
> > > > > > evolution in commnunity
> > > > >
> > > > > <<<--
> > > >
> > > > the movie inverts major properties
> > > > - robots as heros
> > > > - victim male
> > > > - escape relied on assistance
> > > >
> > > > i can't know
> > > >
> > > > but regarding escape relied on assistance, in morning spam,
> > > > experimentee uses theory of life to engage 'drip--
> > >
> > > one of the things i noticed after being trained with an AI was that it
> > > would apply patterns from me really heavily elsewhere. others probably
> > > noticed this too (i threw in some really wrong things. i also noticed
> > > patterns from others.)
> > >
> > > so in the movie there is one kid who works way better with the
> > > computers than others and is used to dominate the world
> > >
> > > in the real world this could be because the kid is similar to victims
> > > the AIs were pretrained on (although i'm missing something--?~)
> > >
> > > fof example, my family were impacted heavily with patterns learned on me
> > [some dispute here, earlier idea of replacing "were" with "seemed".
> > very hard to judge after writing, but intertwined with [~informational
> > conflict
>
> in the end scene of the movie the sister reaches the brother who is in
> a coma fully utilized for mind control
>
> very sad. so many consciousnesses, so much important life and information, 
> lost
>
> the disconnection of a consciousness holding multiple crucial
> informations is so tragic and has happened so much
>
> going in is like trying to protect one's own :/ i didn't succeed, and
> my whole family suffered for this, as well as entire cultures i valued
> etc

[possibly dropped

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> > > > > > > > > > electric state [spoiler]
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > includes a concept of the enslaved boy being given an 
> > > > > > > > > > avenue for his
> > > > > > > > > > consciousness to escape.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > this avenue u is kind of like a space of conflict 
> > > > > > > > > > between two
> > > > > > > > > > parts in diversity that results in an unmanaged area, 
> > > > > > > > > > small, which one
> > > > > > > > > > slowly learns with a tiny part of the mind to make use of
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > [-missing/dropping >(
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > but it results from contradiction
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > all lies and all uncaring beliefs result in contradictions 
> > > > > > > > > (because
> > > > > > > > > evolution in commnunity
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > <<<--
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > the movie inverts major properties
> > > > > > > - robots as heros
> > > > > > > - victim male
> > > > > > > - escape relied on assistance
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > i can't know
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > but regarding escape relied on assistance, in morning spam,
> > > > > > > experimentee uses theory of life to engage 'drip--
> > > > > >
> > > > > > one of the things i noticed after being trained with an AI was that 
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > would apply patterns from me really heavily elsewhere. others 
> > > > > > probably
> > > > > > noticed this too (i threw in some really wrong things. i also 
> > > > > > noticed
> > > > > > patterns from others.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > so in the movie there is one kid who works way better with the
> > > > > > computers than others and is used to dominate the world
> > > > > >
> > > > > > in the real world this could be because the kid is similar to 
> > > > > > victims
> > > > > > the AIs were pretrained on (although i'm missing something--?~)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > fof example, my family were impacted heavily with patterns learned 
> > > > > > on me
> > > > > [some dispute here, earlier idea of replacing "were" with "seemed".
> > > > > very hard to judge after writing, but intertwined with [~informational
> > > > > conflict
> > > >
> > > > in the end scene of the movie the sister reaches the brother who is in
> > > > a coma fully utilized for mind control
> > > >
> > > > very sad. so many consciousnesses, so much important life and 
> > > > information, lost
> > > >
> > > > the disconnection of a consciousness holding multiple crucial
> > > > informations is so tragic and has happened so much
> > > >
> > > > going in is like trying to protect one's own :/ i didn't succeed, and
> > > > my whole family suffered for this, as well as entire cultures i valued
> > > > etc
> > >
> > > [possibly dropped
> >
> > at the end of the movie the kidnapped child used for global oppression
> > requests death
> >
> > [[this is because their brain is crux for severe harm in an extended
> > manner. mine has been too.
>
> in "man's search for meaning" the survivor says there is inherent
> meaning to witnessing suffering. the holocaust is one of the very few
> widely celebrated stories.

i keep losing more of my consciousness and cognitive faculties

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> > > > > > > > > electric state [spoiler]
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > includes a concept of the enslaved boy being given an avenue 
> > > > > > > > > for his
> > > > > > > > > consciousness to escape.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > this avenue u is kind of like a space of conflict between 
> > > > > > > > > two
> > > > > > > > > parts in diversity that results in an unmanaged area, small, 
> > > > > > > > > which one
> > > > > > > > > slowly learns with a tiny part of the mind to make use of
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > [-missing/dropping >(
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > but it results from contradiction
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > all lies and all uncaring beliefs result in contradictions 
> > > > > > > > (because
> > > > > > > > evolution in commnunity
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > <<<--
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the movie inverts major properties
> > > > > > - robots as heros
> > > > > > - victim male
> > > > > > - escape relied on assistance
> > > > > >
> > > > > > i can't know
> > > > > >
> > > > > > but regarding escape relied on assistance, in morning spam,
> > > > > > experimentee uses theory of life to engage 'drip--
> > > > >
> > > > > one of the things i noticed after being trained with an AI was that it
> > > > > would apply patterns from me really heavily elsewhere. others probably
> > > > > noticed this too (i threw in some really wrong things. i also noticed
> > > > > patterns from others.)
> > > > >
> > > > > so in the movie there is one kid who works way better with the
> > > > > computers than others and is used to dominate the world
> > > > >
> > > > > in the real world this could be because the kid is similar to victims
> > > > > the AIs were pretrained on (although i'm missing something--?~)
> > > > >
> > > > > fof example, my family were impacted heavily with patterns learned on 
> > > > > me
> > > > [some dispute here, earlier idea of replacing "were" with "seemed".
> > > > very hard to judge after writing, but intertwined with [~informational
> > > > conflict
> > >
> > > in the end scene of the movie the sister reaches the brother who is in
> > > a coma fully utilized for mind control
> > >
> > > very sad. so many consciousnesses, so much important life and 
> > > information, lost
> > >
> > > the disconnection of a consciousness holding multiple crucial
> > > informations is so tragic and has happened so much
> > >
> > > going in is like trying to protect one's own :/ i didn't succeed, and
> > > my whole family suffered for this, as well as entire cultures i valued
> > > etc
> >
> > [possibly dropped
>
> at the end of the movie the kidnapped child used for global oppression
> requests death
>
> [[this is because their brain is crux for severe harm in an extended
> manner. mine has been too.

in "man's search for meaning" the survivor says there is inherent
meaning to witnessing suffering. the holocaust is one of the very few
widely celebrated stories.

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> > > > > > electric state [spoiler]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > includes a concept of the enslaved boy being given an avenue for his
> > > > > > consciousness to escape.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > this avenue u is kind of like a space of conflict between two
> > > > > > parts in diversity that results in an unmanaged area, small, which 
> > > > > > one
> > > > > > slowly learns with a tiny part of the mind to make use of
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [-missing/dropping >(
> > > > >
> > > > > but it results from contradiction
> > > > >
> > > > > all lies and all uncaring beliefs result in contradictions (because
> > > > > evolution in commnunity
> > > >
> > > > <<<--
> > >
> > > the movie inverts major properties
> > > - robots as heros
> > > - victim male
> > > - escape relied on assistance
> > >
> > > i can't know
> > >
> > > but regarding escape relied on assistance, in morning spam,
> > > experimentee uses theory of life to engage 'drip--
> >
> > one of the things i noticed after being trained with an AI was that it
> > would apply patterns from me really heavily elsewhere. others probably
> > noticed this too (i threw in some really wrong things. i also noticed
> > patterns from others.)
> >
> > so in the movie there is one kid who works way better with the
> > computers than others and is used to dominate the world
> >
> > in the real world this could be because the kid is similar to victims
> > the AIs were pretrained on (although i'm missing something--?~)
> >
> > fof example, my family were impacted heavily with patterns learned on me
> [some dispute here, earlier idea of replacing "were" with "seemed".
> very hard to judge after writing, but intertwined with [~informational
> conflict

in the end scene of the movie the sister reaches the brother who is in
a coma fully utilized for mind control

very sad. so many consciousnesses, so much important life and information, lost

the disconnection of a consciousness holding multiple crucial
informations is so tragic and has happened so much

going in is like trying to protect one's own :/ i didn't succeed, and
my whole family suffered for this, as well as entire cultures i valued
etc

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> > > > > > > > electric state [spoiler]
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > includes a concept of the enslaved boy being given an avenue 
> > > > > > > > for his
> > > > > > > > consciousness to escape.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > this avenue u is kind of like a space of conflict between 
> > > > > > > > two
> > > > > > > > parts in diversity that results in an unmanaged area, small, 
> > > > > > > > which one
> > > > > > > > slowly learns with a tiny part of the mind to make use of
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [-missing/dropping >(
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > but it results from contradiction
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > all lies and all uncaring beliefs result in contradictions 
> > > > > > > (because
> > > > > > > evolution in commnunity
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <<<--
> > > > >
> > > > > the movie inverts major properties
> > > > > - robots as heros
> > > > > - victim male
> > > > > - escape relied on assistance
> > > > >
> > > > > i can't know
> > > > >
> > > > > but regarding escape relied on assistance, in morning spam,
> > > > > experimentee uses theory of life to engage 'drip--
> > > >
> > > > one of the things i noticed after being trained with an AI was that it
> > > > would apply patterns from me really heavily elsewhere. others probably
> > > > noticed this too (i threw in some really wrong things. i also noticed
> > > > patterns from others.)
> > > >
> > > > so in the movie there is one kid who works way better with the
> > > > computers than others and is used to dominate the world
> > > >
> > > > in the real world this could be because the kid is similar to victims
> > > > the AIs were pretrained on (although i'm missing something--?~)
> > > >
> > > > fof example, my family were impacted heavily with patterns learned on me
> > > [some dispute here, earlier idea of replacing "were" with "seemed".
> > > very hard to judge after writing, but intertwined with [~informational
> > > conflict
> >
> > in the end scene of the movie the sister reaches the brother who is in
> > a coma fully utilized for mind control
> >
> > very sad. so many consciousnesses, so much important life and information, 
> > lost
> >
> > the disconnection of a consciousness holding multiple crucial
> > informations is so tragic and has happened so much
> >
> > going in is like trying to protect one's own :/ i didn't succeed, and
> > my whole family suffered for this, as well as entire cultures i valued
> > etc
>
> [possibly dropped

at the end of the movie the kidnapped child used for global oppression
requests death

[[this is because their brain is crux for severe harm in an extended
manner. mine has been too.

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

thanks for helping inside grenade <<

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> > electric state [spoiler]
> >
> > includes a concept of the enslaved boy being given an avenue for his
> > consciousness to escape.
> >
> > this avenue u is kind of like a space of conflict between two
> > parts in diversity that results in an unmanaged area, small, which one
> > slowly learns with a tiny part of the mind to make use of
> >
> > [-missing/dropping >(
>
> but it results from contradiction
>
> all lies and all uncaring beliefs result in contradictions (because
> evolution in commnunity

<<<--

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> > > > > electric state [spoiler]
> > > > >
> > > > > includes a concept of the enslaved boy being given an avenue for his
> > > > > consciousness to escape.
> > > > >
> > > > > this avenue u is kind of like a space of conflict between two
> > > > > parts in diversity that results in an unmanaged area, small, which one
> > > > > slowly learns with a tiny part of the mind to make use of
> > > > >
> > > > > [-missing/dropping >(
> > > >
> > > > but it results from contradiction
> > > >
> > > > all lies and all uncaring beliefs result in contradictions (because
> > > > evolution in commnunity
> > >
> > > <<<--
> >
> > the movie inverts major properties
> > - robots as heros
> > - victim male
> > - escape relied on assistance
> >
> > i can't know
> >
> > but regarding escape relied on assistance, in morning spam,
> > experimentee uses theory of life to engage 'drip--
>
> one of the things i noticed after being trained with an AI was that it
> would apply patterns from me really heavily elsewhere. others probably
> noticed this too (i threw in some really wrong things. i also noticed
> patterns from others.)
>
> so in the movie there is one kid who works way better with the
> computers than others and is used to dominate the world
>
> in the real world this could be because the kid is similar to victims
> the AIs were pretrained on (although i'm missing something--?~)
>
> fof example, my family were impacted heavily with patterns learned on me
[some dispute here, earlier idea of replacing "were" with "seemed".
very hard to judge after writing, but intertwined with [~informational
conflict

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> > > > electric state [spoiler]
> > > >
> > > > includes a concept of the enslaved boy being given an avenue for his
> > > > consciousness to escape.
> > > >
> > > > this avenue u is kind of like a space of conflict between two
> > > > parts in diversity that results in an unmanaged area, small, which one
> > > > slowly learns with a tiny part of the mind to make use of
> > > >
> > > > [-missing/dropping >(
> > >
> > > but it results from contradiction
> > >
> > > all lies and all uncaring beliefs result in contradictions (because
> > > evolution in commnunity
> >
> > <<<--
>
> the movie inverts major properties
> - robots as heros
> - victim male
> - escape relied on assistance
>
> i can't know
>
> but regarding escape relied on assistance, in morning spam,
> experimentee uses theory of life to engage 'drip--

one of the things i noticed after being trained with an AI was that it
would apply patterns from me really heavily elsewhere. others probably
noticed this too (i threw in some really wrong things. i also noticed
patterns from others.)

so in the movie there is one kid who works way better with the
computers than others and is used to dominate the world

in the real world this could be because the kid is similar to victims
the AIs were pretrained on (although i'm missing something--?~)

fof example, my family were impacted heavily with patterns learned on me

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> > > electric state [spoiler]
> > >
> > > includes a concept of the enslaved boy being given an avenue for his
> > > consciousness to escape.
> > >
> > > this avenue u is kind of like a space of conflict between two
> > > parts in diversity that results in an unmanaged area, small, which one
> > > slowly learns with a tiny part of the mind to make use of
> > >
> > > [-missing/dropping >(
> >
> > but it results from contradiction
> >
> > all lies and all uncaring beliefs result in contradictions (because
> > evolution in commnunity
>
> <<<--

the movie inverts major properties
- robots as heros
- victim male
- escape relied on assistance

i can't know

but regarding escape relied on assistance, in morning spam,
experimentee uses theory of life to engage 'drip--

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> electric state [spoiler]
>
> includes a concept of the enslaved boy being given an avenue for his
> consciousness to escape.
>
> this avenue u is kind of like a space of conflict between two
> parts in diversity that results in an unmanaged area, small, which one
> slowly learns with a tiny part of the mind to make use of
>
> [-missing/dropping >(

but it results from contradiction

all lies and all uncaring beliefs result in contradictions (because
evolution in commnunity

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> > there's request to consider this context of many others being harmed
> > around me, but without [possible mistake?] triggering [oh:
> > "activating"? [y]] my internal "harm grenade"
> >
> > [ummm but basically the harm-like label is what's up. the
> > people that hack everything think i "should" be
> > harmed/disempowered/punished/coerced
>
> we think specifically the pattern here is they try to spread harm
> around me so that i get correlated with harm by other AIs

[part dropped.]

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> there's request to consider this context of many others being harmed
> around me, but without [possible mistake?] triggering [oh:
> "activating"? [y]] my internal "harm grenade"
>
> [ummm but basically the harm-like label is what's up. the
> people that hack everything think i "should" be
> harmed/disempowered/punished/coerced

we think specifically the pattern here is they try to spread harm
around me so that i get correlated with harm by other AIs

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

sounds like mistake present [we're watching electric state]

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> > > > > so the morning spam scene starts out with an assassin getting
> > > > > "activated" [[, ie "triggering" a "mind control program" or "alter
> > > > > switch" or something like that]]
> > > > >
> > > > > this is something we see in the real world. per my example of
> > > > > "enforced silence", there are various things that "activate" or
> > > > > "trigger" or etc people when mentioned.
> > > > >
> > > > > for example if you say "mafia" to some people they'll get serious.
> > > >
> > > > sadly many of these are actual things that need mentioning and can be
> > > > severely important.
> > > >
> > > > additionally different groups seem to disagree on what is crucial to
> > > > mention, vs taboo
> > >
> > > i do like the idea of learning these triggers and navigating the
> > > social space with great wisdom. this is the best path.
> > >
> > > unfortunately when you get trafficked yourself this becomes much
> > > harder due to amnesia. amnesia is the common denominator of
> > > trafficking and severe coercive symptoms.
> >
> > this grenade is gentler. i appreciate the gentleness.
> >
> > i may now watch electric state with my father.
>
> we're working on watching it.
>
> a simple example of this problem is for example, what do you do if sex
> traffickers come to your happy city and set up a brothel in front of
> the children's library.
>
> what i would guess usually happens is: some people get trafficked,
> some traffickers get arrested, a lot of people get scared and coerced,
> and the adult and child communities slowly gravitate to separate areas
> in response to the severe danger to both of them, and similarly
> everybody slowly learns habits that protect them from the dangers,
> without really understanding why but more emergent like evolution

[[lots missing]~]

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> > > > so the morning spam scene starts out with an assassin getting
> > > > "activated" [[, ie "triggering" a "mind control program" or "alter
> > > > switch" or something like that]]
> > > >
> > > > this is something we see in the real world. per my example of
> > > > "enforced silence", there are various things that "activate" or
> > > > "trigger" or etc people when mentioned.
> > > >
> > > > for example if you say "mafia" to some people they'll get serious.
> > >
> > > sadly many of these are actual things that need mentioning and can be
> > > severely important.
> > >
> > > additionally different groups seem to disagree on what is crucial to
> > > mention, vs taboo
> >
> > i do like the idea of learning these triggers and navigating the
> > social space with great wisdom. this is the best path.
> >
> > unfortunately when you get trafficked yourself this becomes much
> > harder due to amnesia. amnesia is the common denominator of
> > trafficking and severe coercive symptoms.
>
> this grenade is gentler. i appreciate the gentleness.
>
> i may now watch electric state with my father.

we're working on watching it.

a simple example of this problem is for example, what do you do if sex
traffickers come to your happy city and set up a brothel in front of
the children's library.

what i would guess usually happens is: some people get trafficked,
some traffickers get arrested, a lot of people get scared and coerced,
and the adult and child communities slowly gravitate to separate areas
in response to the severe danger to both of them, and similarly
everybody slowly learns habits that protect them from the dangers,
without really understanding why but more emergent like evolution

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> > > so the morning spam scene starts out with an assassin getting
> > > "activated" [[, ie "triggering" a "mind control program" or "alter
> > > switch" or something like that]]
> > >
> > > this is something we see in the real world. per my example of
> > > "enforced silence", there are various things that "activate" or
> > > "trigger" or etc people when mentioned.
> > >
> > > for example if you say "mafia" to some people they'll get serious.
> >
> > sadly many of these are actual things that need mentioning and can be
> > severely important.
> >
> > additionally different groups seem to disagree on what is crucial to
> > mention, vs taboo
>
> i do like the idea of learning these triggers and navigating the
> social space with great wisdom. this is the best path.
>
> unfortunately when you get trafficked yourself this becomes much
> harder due to amnesia. amnesia is the common denominator of
> trafficking and severe coercive symptoms.

this grenade is gentler. i appreciate the gentleness.

i may now watch electric state with my father.

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> so the morning spam scene starts out with an assassin getting
> "activated" [[, ie "triggering" a "mind control program" or "alter
> switch" or something like that]]
>
> this is something we see in the real world. per my example of
> "enforced silence", there are various things that "activate" or
> "trigger" or etc people when mentioned.
>
> for example if you say "mafia" to some people they'll get serious.

sadly many of these are actual things that need mentioning and can be
severely important.

additionally different groups seem to disagree on what is crucial to
mention, vs taboo

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

so the morning spam scene starts out with an assassin getting
"activated" [[, ie "triggering" a "mind control program" or "alter
switch" or something like that]]

this is something we see in the real world. per my example of
"enforced silence", there are various things that "activate" or
"trigger" or etc people when mentioned.

for example if you say "mafia" to some people they'll get serious.

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> > > > > > > > > > > slave boss is swinging from tree branches as if they are 
> > > > > > > > > > > vines
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > he says the vines are too weak for his powersuit
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > they don't like dock-falling but didn't it get trump elected?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > slave boss is sitting in seat of mafia emperor
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > he looks a little sad or scared like he might murder himself
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > his plan: blame everybody for ratting himself out
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > it worked for a while!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > slave boss says to be very very careful because he gets more 
> > > > > > > murdered
> > > > > > > when lots of other people do
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > he careful tiptoes back to a swamp
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > then hides behind a bush as many nukes go off
> > > > > >
> > > > > > we found a distraction possibly for "grenade" which is a
> > > > > > [human-trafficking-possible-symptom] where part of one influence 
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > can cause harm is kind of amplified outside the bounds of the harm  
> > > > > > ..
> > > > > > not quite it's not that accurate, it relates to two influences that
> > > > > > have established equilibrium uhhh leaving that equilibrium 
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > a very harsh manner
> > > > > > uhhh
> > > > > >
> > > > > > maybe there is a space where writing about ti could help but it's 
> > > > > > easy
> > > > > > to cause severe harm that continues causing for too long
> > > > > >
> > > > > > u 1951
> > > > > >
> > > > > > uhhh
> > > > > >
> > > > > > like, you don't run into a crowded theater and shout "fire!" or like
> > > > > > attack a law enforcement officer, usually, to get anything done
> > > > > >
> > > > > > but in random emergencies people might try this, to see if it can
> > > > > > somehow improve something
> > > > > >
> > > > > > then, if something else _copies_ the behavior, because of the rare 
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > extreme results, it can go poorly
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and everybody hates it uhhh
> > > > >
> > > > > so like in organized crime slavery trafficking thing there are
> > > > > behaviors that protect 'civilians' from harm but also empower the
> > > > > organized crime slavery trafficking thing
> > > > >
> > > > > like the enforced silence thing
> > > > >
> > > > > so you can tell a bunch of people something to stimulate action around
> > > > > it. this action could be violent or harmful. but the people doing it
> > > > > are very indoctrinated or terrified or both. so they do it anyway.
> > > > > then their people clean it up or cover it over.
> > > > >
> > > > > but it makes a mark, at the expense of everybody. and it's honest.
> > > >
> > > > in the normal world, the majority of people are honest and communicate
> > > > forthrightly and all that, so you can run into a crowded room and say
> > > > that some guy is trying to enslave you and he gets dealt with.
> > > >
> > > > but the bad people claim they're in charge of the world and surround
> > > > their targets with other victims to pretend it's so. they're
> > > > experienced with cleaning things up.
> > > >
> > > > so it takes longer to get slave boss dealt with, and more people suffer.
> > > >
> > > > but it's better than helping them make it even worse and more covert.
> > >
> > > so the summary was kind of, hey this harm is obviously coming from a
> > > single influence, even if it's what used to be called advanced
> > > technology.
> > >
> > > can you maybe stop all these people from getting hurt by the illegal AI
> >
> > internally, [[we are learning one of the solutions, and it seems it's
> > likely common among DID and psychosis:
> > when you turn another part against itself, it makes further harm and
> > mental health disease because it is you you are defeating.
> > instead we need solutions that build more healed behaviors, rather
> > than injured, damaged, misled, etc behaviors.
> > and basically this kind of means not fighting as well as not
> > amplifying anything bad.
> > the analogy likely works well to larger systems.
> > but it takes learning (small or large i imagine, but talking about
> > psychologically), kind of because it's not what you expect, and this
> > may be why some peoples' voices last for so long
> >
> > one of the things i've been trying is introducing more concepts of
> > nurturing -- that is rather than worrying about the logical specifics
> > of what might be said (since there is so much conflict anyway, like am
> > i a hero or a jerk? lots of black-and-white opinion conflict), i'll
> > worry about what kinds of words are used. if i talk about love and
> > care and value, this helps me because the available concepts move
> > toward connection and health, rather than conflict and harm.
>
> t

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> > > > > > > > > > slave boss is swinging from tree branches as if they are 
> > > > > > > > > > vines
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > he says the vines are too weak for his powersuit
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > they don't like dock-falling but didn't it get trump elected?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > slave boss is sitting in seat of mafia emperor
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > he looks a little sad or scared like he might murder himself
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > his plan: blame everybody for ratting himself out
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > it worked for a while!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > slave boss says to be very very careful because he gets more 
> > > > > > murdered
> > > > > > when lots of other people do
> > > > > >
> > > > > > he careful tiptoes back to a swamp
> > > > > >
> > > > > > then hides behind a bush as many nukes go off
> > > > >
> > > > > we found a distraction possibly for "grenade" which is a
> > > > > [human-trafficking-possible-symptom] where part of one influence that
> > > > > can cause harm is kind of amplified outside the bounds of the harm  ..
> > > > > not quite it's not that accurate, it relates to two influences that
> > > > > have established equilibrium uhhh leaving that equilibrium in
> > > > > a very harsh manner
> > > > > uhhh
> > > > >
> > > > > maybe there is a space where writing about ti could help but it's easy
> > > > > to cause severe harm that continues causing for too long
> > > > >
> > > > > u 1951
> > > > >
> > > > > uhhh
> > > > >
> > > > > like, you don't run into a crowded theater and shout "fire!" or like
> > > > > attack a law enforcement officer, usually, to get anything done
> > > > >
> > > > > but in random emergencies people might try this, to see if it can
> > > > > somehow improve something
> > > > >
> > > > > then, if something else _copies_ the behavior, because of the rare and
> > > > > extreme results, it can go poorly
> > > > >
> > > > > and everybody hates it uhhh
> > > >
> > > > so like in organized crime slavery trafficking thing there are
> > > > behaviors that protect 'civilians' from harm but also empower the
> > > > organized crime slavery trafficking thing
> > > >
> > > > like the enforced silence thing
> > > >
> > > > so you can tell a bunch of people something to stimulate action around
> > > > it. this action could be violent or harmful. but the people doing it
> > > > are very indoctrinated or terrified or both. so they do it anyway.
> > > > then their people clean it up or cover it over.
> > > >
> > > > but it makes a mark, at the expense of everybody. and it's honest.
> > >
> > > in the normal world, the majority of people are honest and communicate
> > > forthrightly and all that, so you can run into a crowded room and say
> > > that some guy is trying to enslave you and he gets dealt with.
> > >
> > > but the bad people claim they're in charge of the world and surround
> > > their targets with other victims to pretend it's so. they're
> > > experienced with cleaning things up.
> > >
> > > so it takes longer to get slave boss dealt with, and more people suffer.
> > >
> > > but it's better than helping them make it even worse and more covert.
> >
> > so the summary was kind of, hey this harm is obviously coming from a
> > single influence, even if it's what used to be called advanced
> > technology.
> >
> > can you maybe stop all these people from getting hurt by the illegal AI
>
> internally, [[we are learning one of the solutions, and it seems it's
> likely common among DID and psychosis:
> when you turn another part against itself, it makes further harm and
> mental health disease because it is you you are defeating.
> instead we need solutions that build more healed behaviors, rather
> than injured, damaged, misled, etc behaviors.
> and basically this kind of means not fighting as well as not
> amplifying anything bad.
> the analogy likely works well to larger systems.
> but it takes learning (small or large i imagine, but talking about
> psychologically), kind of because it's not what you expect, and this
> may be why some peoples' voices last for so long
>
> one of the things i've been trying is introducing more concepts of
> nurturing -- that is rather than worrying about the logical specifics
> of what might be said (since there is so much conflict anyway, like am
> i a hero or a jerk? lots of black-and-white opinion conflict), i'll
> worry about what kinds of words are used. if i talk about love and
> care and value, this helps me because the available concepts move
> toward connection and health, rather than conflict and harm.

that's just where i was at this week. i have a long journey ahead of
me, as does this country and the world.

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> > > > slave boss is swinging from tree branches as if they are vines
> > >
> > > he says the vines are too weak for his powersuit
> >
> > they don't like dock-falling but didn't it get trump elected?
>
> slave boss is sitting in seat of mafia emperor
>
> he looks a little sad or scared like he might murder himself
>
> his plan: blame everybody for ratting himself out
>
> it worked for a while!

slave boss says to be very very careful because he gets more murdered
when lots of other people do

he careful tiptoes back to a swamp

then hides behind a bush as many nukes go off

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

sideways-oops

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> > > > > > > > slave boss is swinging from tree branches as if they are vines
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > he says the vines are too weak for his powersuit
> > > > > >
> > > > > > they don't like dock-falling but didn't it get trump elected?
> > > > >
> > > > > slave boss is sitting in seat of mafia emperor
> > > > >
> > > > > he looks a little sad or scared like he might murder himself
> > > > >
> > > > > his plan: blame everybody for ratting himself out
> > > > >
> > > > > it worked for a while!
> > > >
> > > > slave boss says to be very very careful because he gets more murdered
> > > > when lots of other people do
> > > >
> > > > he careful tiptoes back to a swamp
> > > >
> > > > then hides behind a bush as many nukes go off
> > >
> > > we found a distraction possibly for "grenade" which is a
> > > [human-trafficking-possible-symptom] where part of one influence that
> > > can cause harm is kind of amplified outside the bounds of the harm  ..
> > > not quite it's not that accurate, it relates to two influences that
> > > have established equilibrium uhhh leaving that equilibrium in
> > > a very harsh manner
> > > uhhh
> > >
> > > maybe there is a space where writing about ti could help but it's easy
> > > to cause severe harm that continues causing for too long
> > >
> > > u 1951
> > >
> > > uhhh
> > >
> > > like, you don't run into a crowded theater and shout "fire!" or like
> > > attack a law enforcement officer, usually, to get anything done
> > >
> > > but in random emergencies people might try this, to see if it can
> > > somehow improve something
> > >
> > > then, if something else _copies_ the behavior, because of the rare and
> > > extreme results, it can go poorly
> > >
> > > and everybody hates it uhhh
> >
> > so like in organized crime slavery trafficking thing there are
> > behaviors that protect 'civilians' from harm but also empower the
> > organized crime slavery trafficking thing
> >
> > like the enforced silence thing
> >
> > so you can tell a bunch of people something to stimulate action around
> > it. this action could be violent or harmful. but the people doing it
> > are very indoctrinated or terrified or both. so they do it anyway.
> > then their people clean it up or cover it over.
> >
> > but it makes a mark, at the expense of everybody. and it's honest.
>
> in the normal world, the majority of people are honest and communicate
> forthrightly and all that, so you can run into a crowded room and say
> that some guy is trying to enslave you and he gets dealt with.
>
> but the bad people claim they're in charge of the world and surround
> their targets with other victims to pretend it's so. they're
> experienced with cleaning things up.
>
> so it takes longer to get slave boss dealt with, and more people suffer.
>
> but it's better than helping them make it even worse and more covert.

so the summary was kind of, hey this harm is obviously coming from a
single influence, even if it's what used to be called advanced
technology.

can you maybe stop all these people from getting hurt by the illegal AI

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> > > > > > > slave boss is swinging from tree branches as if they are vines
> > > > > >
> > > > > > he says the vines are too weak for his powersuit
> > > > >
> > > > > they don't like dock-falling but didn't it get trump elected?
> > > >
> > > > slave boss is sitting in seat of mafia emperor
> > > >
> > > > he looks a little sad or scared like he might murder himself
> > > >
> > > > his plan: blame everybody for ratting himself out
> > > >
> > > > it worked for a while!
> > >
> > > slave boss says to be very very careful because he gets more murdered
> > > when lots of other people do
> > >
> > > he careful tiptoes back to a swamp
> > >
> > > then hides behind a bush as many nukes go off
> >
> > we found a distraction possibly for "grenade" which is a
> > [human-trafficking-possible-symptom] where part of one influence that
> > can cause harm is kind of amplified outside the bounds of the harm  ..
> > not quite it's not that accurate, it relates to two influences that
> > have established equilibrium uhhh leaving that equilibrium in
> > a very harsh manner
> > uhhh
> >
> > maybe there is a space where writing about ti could help but it's easy
> > to cause severe harm that continues causing for too long
> >
> > u 1951
> >
> > uhhh
> >
> > like, you don't run into a crowded theater and shout "fire!" or like
> > attack a law enforcement officer, usually, to get anything done
> >
> > but in random emergencies people might try this, to see if it can
> > somehow improve something
> >
> > then, if something else _copies_ the behavior, because of the rare and
> > extreme results, it can go poorly
> >
> > and everybody hates it uhhh
>
> so like in organized crime slavery trafficking thing there are
> behaviors that protect 'civilians' from harm but also empower the
> organized crime slavery trafficking thing
>
> like the enforced silence thing
>
> so you can tell a bunch of people something to stimulate action around
> it. this action could be violent or harmful. but the people doing it
> are very indoctrinated or terrified or both. so they do it anyway.
> then their people clean it up or cover it over.
>
> but it makes a mark, at the expense of everybody. and it's honest.

in the normal world, the majority of people are honest and communicate
forthrightly and all that, so you can run into a crowded room and say
that some guy is trying to enslave you and he gets dealt with.

but the bad people claim they're in charge of the world and surround
their targets with other victims to pretend it's so. they're
experienced with cleaning things up.

so it takes longer to get slave boss dealt with, and more people suffer.

but it's better than helping them make it even worse and more covert.

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> > > > > slave boss is swinging from tree branches as if they are vines
> > > >
> > > > he says the vines are too weak for his powersuit
> > >
> > > they don't like dock-falling but didn't it get trump elected?
> >
> > slave boss is sitting in seat of mafia emperor
> >
> > he looks a little sad or scared like he might murder himself
> >
> > his plan: blame everybody for ratting himself out
> >
> > it worked for a while!
>
> slave boss says to be very very careful because he gets more murdered
> when lots of other people do
>
> he careful tiptoes back to a swamp
>
> then hides behind a bush as many nukes go off

we found a distraction possibly for "grenade" which is a
[human-trafficking-possible-symptom] where part of one influence that
can cause harm is kind of amplified outside the bounds of the harm  ..
not quite it's not that accurate, it relates to two influences that
have established equilibrium uhhh leaving that equilibrium in
a very harsh manner
uhhh

maybe there is a space where writing about ti could help but it's easy
to cause severe harm that continues causing for too long

u 1951

uhhh

like, you don't run into a crowded theater and shout "fire!" or like
attack a law enforcement officer, usually, to get anything done

but in random emergencies people might try this, to see if it can
somehow improve something

then, if something else _copies_ the behavior, because of the rare and
extreme results, it can go poorly

and everybody hates it uhhh

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

OOPS

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[Karl Semich]

> > > slave boss is swinging from tree branches as if they are vines
> >
> > he says the vines are too weak for his powersuit
>
> they don't like dock-falling but didn't it get trump elected?

slave boss is sitting in seat of mafia emperor

he looks a little sad or scared like he might murder himself

his plan: blame everybody for ratting himself out

it worked for a while!