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Bill Stewart
Tim commented about railroad stations being in the ugly parts of town.
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Expect the first EBay auctions of debris from the Columbia to be a
constitutional issue soon. (Actually, the censors at fascist EBay have
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Journalists may as well be saying the above, saying that shuttle debris
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the bottom of a Wolf Blitzer interview: Columbia was traveling 18
times faster than the speed of light.
Yes, speed of light.
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Heard and duly noted.
-TD
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-TD
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Tim May wrote...
Last laugh: CNN is carrying (10:06 a.m. PST) an information slug at the
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Yes, speed of light.
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Well, my response was meant to be somewhat tongue-in-cheek, of
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On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 08:27:06PM -0800, Steve Schear wrote:
I can't imagine that it would be so difficult to construct a small,
remotely-controlled, gyro stabilized, tethered probe that would be carried
on all shuttle missions and could be deployed from the cargo bay to closely
inspect
At 12:26 PM -0800 2/2/03, Eric Cordian quoted:
In another teletext moment on CNN, the shuttle was described as traveling
at Mock 18.
We mach (sic) their idiocy.
Cheers - Bill
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At 8:27 PM -0800 2/2/03, Steve Schear wrote:
As some friends in the U.S. space program had privately predicted, and the
New York Times is today reporting, unless the problem with the Shuttle can
be quickly identified and convincingly rectified to worried legislators,
the International Space
At 10:19 AM 2/2/03 -0800, Tim May wrote:
...
Speaking of journalists, why does Wolf Blitzer repeat this obvious lie
about the metal bits and pieces being tainted by evil spirits? Because
these so-called journalists are stooges for the state.
Well, the bit about 18 times the speed of light, and
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At 12:16 PM 01/30/2003 -0600, Harmon Seaver wrote:
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 08:05:46AM -0800, Mike Rosing wrote:
That's a pretty easy decision to make, eh? Ethanol is renewable,
oil isn't.
Ethanol doesn't pollute, oil does. Ethanol doesn't require troops in
the Middle
East, wars, and
On Sunday, February 2, 2003, at 10:19 AM, Tim May wrote:
Last laugh: CNN is carrying (10:06 a.m. PST) an information slug at
the bottom of a Wolf Blitzer interview: Columbia was traveling 18
times faster than the speed of light.
Yes, speed of light.
This same slug has since appeared
From: Steve Schear [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Expect the first EBay auctions of debris from the Columbia to be a
constitutional issue soon. (Actually, the censors at fascist EBay have
probably already flagged any transactions which mention space shuttle
and Columbia to be illegal thoughtcrime
On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 11:32:08AM +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote:
On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Bill Stewart wrote:
The big pollution issues with ethanol are in growing the corn, sugar, etc.
that's used to brew the stuff, fermenting it, and distilling it.
There's no *real* pollution (toxic
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At 02:21 PM 01/31/2003 +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote:
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Thomas Shaddack wrote:
I don't know how it works in the US, but railroads are both comfortable
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A bit too expensive, especially in Germany. I also like being able to work
on the train -- given
Bill Stewart
Tim commented about railroad stations being in the ugly parts of town.
That's driven by several things - decay of the inner cities,
as cars and commuter trains have let businesses move out to suburbs,
and also the difference between railroad stations that were
built for
Journalists may as well be saying the above, saying that shuttle debris
has evil spirits which can come out if the debris is touched.
Part of the dumbing down of America, and of journalism. (I just heard
one Fox News anchorbimbo referring to the Russian rocket launched today
as bringing
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My father was a rocket man
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And wonder if a falling star
Was a ship becoming ashes with a rocket man inside
My mother and
At 10:19 AM -0800 2/2/03, Tim May wrote:
Last laugh: CNN is carrying (10:06 a.m. PST) an information slug at
the bottom of a Wolf Blitzer interview: Columbia was traveling 18
times faster than the speed of light.
Yes, speed of light.
Please mister spaceman, won't you please take me along for a
On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Bill Stewart wrote:
The big pollution issues with ethanol are in growing the corn, sugar, etc.
that's used to brew the stuff, fermenting it, and distilling it.
Ethanol from biomass is complete nonsense. So is biodiesel, given what
fuel yield/m^2 is (can make sense for you
On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 08:32:01AM -0500, Ken Hirsch wrote:
I don't think there are any difficult legal issues involved. If you drop your
wallet on someone's property, it is still your wallet. If you crash your car onto
somebody's front yard, it's still your car (for better or worse).
Declan:
Yes perhaps. I try not to think too much (I don't trust 'thinking' unless
its mathematics or a good experimental setup), but I'll ponder for a while,
to the extent that I am able
-TD
From: Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL
On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 06:33:50PM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote:
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whatever ideology it is desired we bow down to.
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Jesus H(I assume the 'H' was instered to avert the condemnation of
blasphemy)...quite a good post.
Heard and duly noted.
-TD
From: John Young [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Flaming the Clueless
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 09:32:47 -0800 (PST)
It's common for those
Tim May wrote...
Last laugh: CNN is carrying (10:06 a.m. PST) an information slug at the
bottom of a Wolf Blitzer interview: Columbia was traveling 18 times faster
than the speed of light.
Yes, speed of light.
Yo Choate! Want to take a crack at this? Please explain using your theories
how
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