Re: [darktable-dev] Drag-and-drop to change module order

2019-11-02 Thread jys
On Sat, Nov 2, 2019, at 13:39, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * jys [11-02-19 16:03]: >> > > Each module has a default ordering number, when a module is moved it gets a > > new number between the numbers of its new neighbors. You can see these in > > the XMP file as lines like > > > >

Re: [darktable-dev] Drag-and-drop to change module order

2019-11-02 Thread RLCH
+1 Sent from my Asus mobile On 2 Nov 2019 20:40, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * jys [11-02-19 16:03]: > On Sat, Nov 2, 2019, at 08:40, Christian wrote: > > > Anyway, I'm happy that the pixlpipe is no longer fixed. > > I'm happy that the unfixed pipe is mostly not broken... big thanks to

Re: [darktable-dev] Drag-and-drop to change module order

2019-11-02 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* jys [11-02-19 16:03]: > On Sat, Nov 2, 2019, at 08:40, Christian wrote: > > > Anyway, I'm happy that the pixlpipe is no longer fixed. > > I'm happy that the unfixed pipe is mostly not broken... big thanks to all the > devs who banged their heads against all the many little problems (because

Re: [darktable-dev] Drag-and-drop to change module order

2019-11-02 Thread jys
On Sat, Nov 2, 2019, at 08:40, Christian wrote: > Anyway, I'm happy that the pixlpipe is no longer fixed. I'm happy that the unfixed pipe is mostly not broken... big thanks to all the devs who banged their heads against all the many little problems (because that shouldn't be thankless work!).

Re: [darktable-dev] Drag-and-drop to change module order

2019-11-02 Thread jys
On Sat, Nov 2, 2019, at 01:49, Christian wrote: > > With the crop coming first, the gradient on the picture is depending > on the cropping! > > For me, the gradient filter belongs to the biginning of > the pipe like it is the case for hardware filters, That does seem a little bit weird, I'm

Re: [darktable-dev] Drag-and-drop to change module order

2019-11-01 Thread jys
On Fri, Nov 1, 2019, at 17:53, Heiko Bauke wrote: > Pixel pipe ordering is similar to working with several layers and > blending nodes in Gimp or Photoshop. Here the order of the layers > matters as well and every serious user is aware of this. Good analogy. Maybe a concrete example from

Re: [darktable-dev] Drag-and-drop to change module order

2019-11-01 Thread Heiko Bauke
Hi, Am 02.11.19 um 01:36 schrieb Patrick Shanahan: * Pascal Obry [11-01-19 16:30]: Le vendredi 01 novembre 2019 à 14:56 -0400, Patrick Shanahan a écrit : fwiw, I believe the pp order should remain static and *only* the visual list should be changable. Amusing! You are probably saying that

Re: [darktable-dev] Drag-and-drop to change module order

2019-11-01 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Pascal Obry [11-01-19 16:30]: > Le vendredi 01 novembre 2019 à 14:56 -0400, Patrick Shanahan a écrit : > > fwiw, I believe the pp order should remain static and *only* the visual > > list should be changable. > > Amusing! You are probably saying that just because you don't know why > the pp

Re: [darktable-dev] Drag-and-drop to change module order

2019-11-01 Thread Pascal Obry
Le vendredi 01 novembre 2019 à 14:56 -0400, Patrick Shanahan a écrit : > fwiw, I believe the pp order should remain static and *only* the visual > list should be changable. Amusing! You are probably saying that just because you don't know why the pp can be reordered. -- Pascal Obry / Magny

Re: [darktable-dev] Drag-and-drop to change module order

2019-11-01 Thread Bernhard
Patrick Shanahan schrieb am 01.11.19 um 19:56: fwiw, I believe the pp order should remain static and*only* the visual list should be changable. BUT, if it is determined that pp order may be altered, it should ONLY alterable within parameters where the order makes sense. That's what I

Re: [darktable-dev] Drag-and-drop to change module order

2019-11-01 Thread Julian Rickards
Agreed On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 3:15 PM jys wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 1, 2019, at 10:33, Julian Rickards wrote: > > My wishes and comments are GUI-only and related only to the Favourites > tab. > > > > There is another conversation tied into this one about re-ordering the > > modules in the PP

Re: [darktable-dev] Drag-and-drop to change module order

2019-11-01 Thread jys
On Fri, Nov 1, 2019, at 10:33, Julian Rickards wrote: > My wishes and comments are GUI-only and related only to the Favourites tab. > > There is another conversation tied into this one about re-ordering the > modules in the PP list (the Active tab I suspect because it lists the > modules

Re: [darktable-dev] Drag-and-drop to change module order

2019-11-01 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Julian Rickards [11-01-19 13:36]: > My wishes and comments are GUI-only and related only to the Favourites tab. > > There is another conversation tied into this one about re-ordering the > modules in the PP list (the Active tab I suspect because it lists the > modules used, and their PP

Re: [darktable-dev] Drag-and-drop to change module order

2019-11-01 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Bernhard [11-01-19 13:17]: > Until now I did not feel the need to change pp since the explanation given > seemed valid to me and I was happy with the results. > When I occasionally saw discussion about GUI improvement and module order I > always thought this is GUI only - which indeed would be

Re: [darktable-dev] Drag-and-drop to change module order

2019-11-01 Thread Julian Rickards
My wishes and comments are GUI-only and related only to the Favourites tab. There is another conversation tied into this one about re-ordering the modules in the PP list (the Active tab I suspect because it lists the modules used, and their PP order). I suppose that the two conversations should

Re: [darktable-dev] Drag-and-drop to change module order

2019-11-01 Thread Bernhard
Until now I did not feel the need to change pp since the explanation given seemed valid to me and I was happy with the results. When I occasionally saw discussion about GUI improvement and module order I always thought this is GUI only - which indeed would be a big improvement for me. Now

Re: [darktable-dev] Drag-and-drop to change module order

2019-11-01 Thread jys
On Fri, Nov 1, 2019, at 06:18, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > also once changed there doesn't appear any option ot restore the original > order to the pixelpipe. ??? This was discussed, and I *think* it's still planned to add such a feature. Adding that, and possibly only allowing re-ordering in

Re: [darktable-dev] Drag-and-drop to change module order

2019-11-01 Thread Julian Rickards
In my opinion, re-ordering the modules in the favourites shouldn't be a problem with the pp order. In the same way that you may have written down, on paper, the modules you want to use, in the order you want to use them, re-ordering favourites in this way shouldn't be any different. However, I had

Re: [darktable-dev] Drag-and-drop to change module order

2019-11-01 Thread David Vincent-Jones
I think that I am relieved maybe ... hopefully I did not disturb the pp now I am confused ... I simply wanted to put the favorites in my logical processing order. David On 01.11.19 14:18, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Pascal Obry [11-01-19 08:01]: David, Shurely changing the

Re: [darktable-dev] Drag-and-drop to change module order

2019-11-01 Thread parafin
People are confused even with history (left panel) and iop list (right panel) being in different order, and you are proposing to introduce third ordering of modules. I'm strongly against complicating things like that. Favorites tab doesn't look any different from any other tab on the right panel,

Re: [darktable-dev] Drag-and-drop to change module order

2019-11-01 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Pascal Obry [11-01-19 08:01]: > David, > > > Shurely changing the order of the modules located in the > > 'favorites' tab does not change the individual modules position in > > the pixel-pipeline? that would be unthinkable! > > Of course it does! Re-ordering the iop is not for fun,

Re: [darktable-dev] Drag-and-drop to change module order

2019-11-01 Thread Julian Rickards
I agree with David, re-ordering the modules in the Favourites tab should *not* affect the pixel-pipe order but I wonder if David and Pascal are thinking differently. As I understand it, Aurlien was re-ordering the modules in the "Pixel-pipe" tab, which of course affected the pp order. However,

Re: [darktable-dev] Drag-and-drop to change module order

2019-11-01 Thread David Vincent-Jones
Shurely changing the order of the modules located in the 'favorites' tab does not change the individual modules position in the pixel-pipeline? that would be unthinkable! David On 01.11.19 11:23, Andreas Schneider wrote: On Friday, 1 November 2019 08:19:46 CET David Vincent-Jones

Re: [darktable-dev] Drag-and-drop to change module order

2019-11-01 Thread Andreas Schneider
On Friday, 1 November 2019 08:19:46 CET David Vincent-Jones wrote: > Something interesting .. I moved the rgb-filmic module to a new > location and the image was significantly changed! Am I also changing the > pipeline? See

Re: [darktable-dev] Drag-and-drop to change module order

2019-11-01 Thread jys
On Fri, Nov 1, 2019, at 00:19, David Vincent-Jones wrote: > Something interesting .. I moved the rgb-filmic module to a new > location and the image was significantly changed! Am I also changing > the pipeline? Yes. Don't move things unless you have a reason based on processing order.

Re: [darktable-dev] Drag-and-drop to change module order

2019-11-01 Thread David Vincent-Jones
Something interesting .. I moved the rgb-filmic module to a new location and the image was significantly changed! Am I also changing the pipeline? David On 31.10.19 22:09, jys wrote: On Thu, Oct 31, 2019, at 13:33, KOVÁCS István wrote: Hi, I've seen Aurélien Pierre's video about filmic

Re: [darktable-dev] Drag-and-drop to change module order

2019-10-31 Thread jys
On Thu, Oct 31, 2019, at 13:33, KOVÁCS István wrote: > Hi, > > I've seen Aurélien Pierre's video about filmic and tone EQ; there, he > used the mouse to reorder modules on the active modules tab. I can > only use the 'multiple instances' menu's move up/down options; for me, > click+drag just

Re: [darktable-dev] Drag-and-drop to change module order

2019-10-31 Thread Coding Dave
Its a new feature for DT 3.0. Cheers KOVÁCS István schrieb am Do., 31. Okt. 2019, 21:33: > Hi, > > I've seen Aurélien Pierre's video about filmic and tone EQ; there, he > used the mouse to reorder modules on the active modules tab. I can > only use the 'multiple instances' menu's move up/down

[darktable-dev] Drag-and-drop to change module order

2019-10-31 Thread KOVÁCS István
Hi, I've seen Aurélien Pierre's video about filmic and tone EQ; there, he used the mouse to reorder modules on the active modules tab. I can only use the 'multiple instances' menu's move up/down options; for me, click+drag just opens/closes the module (so the click takes effect, the drag is