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Re: [darktable-user] Windows darktable V 3.2.1 - does not load/import lightable files or folder

2020-08-11 Thread KOVÁCS István

On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 04:30, Ross Tucker  wrote:
> I did find a cache related directory at:
> C:\Program Files\darktable\bin\-d\cached_kernels_for_GeForceGTX970_44187

That is for the graphics card acceleration code.
I think you ran darktable in the past with some wrong settings, as the
path should not have a '-d' in it, and the cache directory shouldn't
be under C:\Program Files, anyway (it should be in your profile). This
is indicated by the error message, too.
'--cachedir C:\Program Files\anything' is just wrong.

Maybe darktable was working fine without any of the magic switches,
and simply your 'collect images' module is set wrong on the left side
of the screen? Try clicking the 'reset parameters' button (the 'on-off
switch' close to the right-hand-side, next to the 'hamburger menu') of
the module.

Kofa

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Re: [darktable-user] Windows darktable V 3.2.1 - does not load/import lightable files or folder

2020-08-11 Thread Ross Tucker

Hi Harald:

Thanks for the tip!

I tried to use it but it still didn't work - still no lighttable import.
When I click on any of the left side window panes:
- import
- collect images
- recently used collections
and try to select something, nothing happens.
When I try to import a directory which has a lot of photo's in it, the
Windows darktable icon on the bottom of the monitor shows a progress bar as
part of the icon.  Something is definitely happening in the background, but
nothing ever shows up in the lighttable image collection area.

Thanks for pointing me to darktable command line parameters.  Tried the one
you suggested, with no apparent luck.  Not sure where my cache folder is
supposed to reside (yet).
Ran the cache generating command line feature and it ran for quite a while
(1.1.3. darktable-generate-cache binary) but still nothing shows up in the
lighttable  area.
I did find a cache related directory at:
C:\Program Files\darktable\bin\-d\cached_kernels_for_GeForceGTX970_44187
which has 31 files in it ranging from a low of 6 kB to a high of  439 kB.
I then ran a variant of your suggestion:
darktable --cachedir C:\Program
Files\darktable\bin\-d\cached_kernels_for_GeForceGTX970_44187  -d lua -d
opencl -d perf -d sql
which then gives me the error message of:

[image: image.png]

changed the command line to:
C:\Program Files\darktable\bin>darktable  --cachedir
.\-d\cached_kernels_for_GeForceGTX970_44187   -d lua   -d opencl   -d perf
 -d sql
and it ran without an error message but without any different results.  It
generated a subfolder in the cache folder "-d" and basically repeated all
the same files in it.

As I mentioned earlier, I can RMB on a file using Windows Explorer and
choose to open with darktable, but none of the files ever show up in the
lighttable view.

Not sure what next to try.

Thanks again for your suggestions.

Sincerely

Ross Tucker


On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 20:56, Harald  wrote:

> Hi Ross,
>
> I recommend using a start option to enable debugging mode to help better
> understand what is really going on here...
>
> For example I start darktable like this :
>
> c:/tools/.../darktable/bin/darktable --cachedir c:/... *-d* lua -d opencl
> -d perf
>
> Related help can be retrieved here:
>
>
> https://darktable.gitlab.io/doc/en/overview_chapter.html#darktable_commandline_parameters
>
> Regards
>
> Haribo
> Am 11.08.2020 um 08:05 schrieb Ross Tucker:
>
> Hi Terry:
>
> I uninstalled  darktable  with their uninstaller.
> downloaded the 64 bit pgm file again.
> reinstalled again.
> tried again.
> still NG.
> Something is stubbornly refusing to let  darktable  import folders.
> I have let it import jpgs (I have RAW & JPG) plus I let it recurse
> directories, but still NG.
>
> Tried editing a bit and that seems to work as before, but lighttable is
> still a no-go for me at the moment.
> I can still access files by opening them from windows explorer, but of
> course I lose all the features (tagging, stars, colour tags, etc.) from
> lighttable.
>
> Glad it's working for you though.
>
> rss
>
> On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 11:13, Terry Pinfold  wrote:
>
>> Hi Ross,
>>  I just installed it on my windows computer. Followed the instruction
>> to let DT upgrade the database. Then imported a new folder and it was fine.
>> I look forward to exploring the improved features and options. No problems
>> yet.
>>
>> On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 09:05, Ross Tucker  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi:
>>>
>>> With much excitement I installed  darktable  V 3.2.1 after running V
>>> 3.0.2 since it's release about 8 months ago.  3.0.2 had problems and
>>> limited some of the edits I could do but I still could use it.  3.2.1 has
>>> edited one file so far so that was nice.  I went to import a folder full of
>>> my latest  NEF images but nothing loaded.  I tried importing a single file
>>> into lightable and that too would not work.  Note that I can still go to
>>> windows-10  and RMB on a file and choose Open with -- darktable and the
>>> image will open in  3.2.1.  I doubt that I'm doing anything wrong but . . .
>>>
>>> Thanks again for a wonderful FOSS photo product - it is an excellent
>>> editor and I've enjoyed my beginning steps with learning the edit functions
>>> and features, tips and tricks.
>>>
>>> Sincerely
>>>
>>> Ross Tucker
>>>
>>> 
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>>
>>
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Re: [darktable-user] Bug in 3.2.1

2020-08-11 Thread Michael Rasmussen

On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 18:19:48 +0200
Jean-Luc Lacroix  wrote:

> v 3.2.1
> 
> Can not reproduce that behavior on a Debian stable with single GPU
> (GeForce GTX 970). Could that be related to your multiple GPU
> configuration?
> 
Made a very strange discovery. If I remove my darktablerc file and
starts darktable without any darktablerc file everything works as it
should. When I close darktable it automatically generates a darktablerc
file which presumably should mean that next time I start darktable it
should behave the same way as it did when I closed it last time but
next time I start darktable it works as described in the bug report!

I find this very weird.

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Re: [darktable-user] darktable 3.2.1 released

2020-08-11 Thread Mikael Ståldal


Try:

sudo apt install cmake


On 2020-08-11 20:21, J. Verreault wrote:
Building directory: 
  /run/media/moi/Backups/Software/darktable/darktable-release-3.2.1/build

Installation prefix: /opt/darktable
Build type:          RelWithDebInfo
Build generator:     Unix Makefiles
Build tasks:         12


./build.sh: line 305: cmake: command not found
[moi@LTop darktable-release-3.2.1]$

On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 13:57, Martin Anstett > wrote:


--> https://www.darktable.org/install/#3rdparty

On 8/11/20 6:54 PM, GianLuca Sarto wrote:
 > My Ubuntu 20.04 still shows DT 3.0.1.
 >
 > How can I update?
 >
 > Thanks,
 >
 > -Gian
 >
 > On 10/08/20 09:38, Pascal Obry wrote:
 >> We're proud to announce the new feature release of darktable, 3.2.1!
 >>
 >> Note that 3.2.0 has been skipped due to last minute bug fixes.
 >>
 >> The github release is here:
 >>

[https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/tag/release-3.2.1](https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/tag/release-3.2.1)

.
 >>
 >> As always, please don't use the autogenerated tarball provided by
 >> github, but only our tar.xz. the checksums are:
 >>
 >> ```
 >> $ sha256sum darktable-3.2.1.tar.xz
 >> 6e3683ea88dc0a0271be7eca4fd594b9e46b1b7194847825a8d0a0c12bdeb90c
 >> darktable-3.2.1.tar.xz
 >> $ sha256sum darktable-3.2.1.dmg
 >> 292b8327fdc2bd6346994d52f904e0d89078100c91eec2a7c6982f71f8dd24ca
 >> darktable-3.2.1.dmg
 >> $ sha256sum darktable-3.2.1.exe
 >> 7d21442aa31a627428cf9e56c85ecb4e985b544ea950d98b54ed0a6f123ad6d3
 >> darktable-3.2.1.exe
 >> ```
 >>
 >> When updating from the current stable 3.0.x series, please bear in
 >> mind that your edits will be preserved during the upgrade, but
the new
 >> library and configuration files are not backward compatible; they're
 >> not usable with 3.0.x, so
 >> making a backup is strongly advised.
 >>
 >>  Important note: to make sure that darktable can keep supporting
 >> the raw file format from your camera, *please* read [this post](
 >> https://discuss.pixls.us/t/raw-samples-wanted/5420?u=lebedevri) on
 >> how/what raw samples you can contribute to ensure that we have the
 >> *full* raw sample set for your camera under CC0 license!
 >>
 >> - Almost 2700 commits to darktable+rawspeed since 3.0
 >> - 790 pull requests handled
 >> - 92 issues closed
 >> - Updated user manual is coming soon™
 >>
 >> ## The Big Ones
 >>
 >> - The *lighttable* view has been rewritten and the filmstrip
reworked,
 >> resulting in large performance gains, especially when using the
 >> zoomable lighttable view. The culling view has also been
rewritten from
 >> scratch. Operations are smooth at any screen resolution up to 8k.
 >>
 >>    Many types of overlay are now possible on lighttable thumbs.
 >>    Different overlay information can be selected depending on
the thumb
 >>    size on the lighttable. The different sizes can be set in the
 >>    preferences, so we can have no overlay at all for small
thumbs and
 >>    full overlay when large thumbs are displayed. This is fully
 >>    configurable.
 >>
 >>    Likewise, the tooltip information when hovering the thumbs can be
 >>    activated/deactivated based on the thumbs size.
 >>
 >> - The lighttable modules have improved user interaction: buttons are
 >>    highlighted only when the context makes the action possible.
 >>
 >> - A complete overhaul of the CSS has been done. This gives
 >>    darktable a professional look. This continues
 >>    the goal to make every single aspect of the UI themable using
CSS.
 >>
 >> - The Color Picker and
 >>    Location modules are updated to better fit into the new UI, and
 >>    most of the icons have been altered so as to be more
 >>    visually balanced.
 >>
 >> - The preference dialog has been fully reviewed and reorganized to
 >>    propose a better look and require less
 >>    scrolling. It is also possible to add some CSS rules directly
into
 >>    the preference dialog to tweak darktable's look as well as
 >>    to directly control the font size and DPI values from the general
 >>    preference tab.
 >>
 >>    A search field has been added to the shortcuts tab to help
you find
 >>    the keyboard shortcut you want to customize.
 >>
 >> - The new negadoctor module has been added to help inverting
negative
 >>    films.
 >>
 >> - A new histogram display called RGB Parade has been added. At the
 >>    same time the histogram module height can

[darktable-user] Bug in 3.2.1

2020-08-11 Thread Michael Rasmussen

Hi all,

Just opened an issue in the bug tracker:
https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/5922

Maybe others facing the same problem?

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Re: [darktable-user] Problem report with configuration using darktable 3.2.1

2020-08-11 Thread DougC

Thanks for the idea, August.



Unfortunately, after adding "-d all" and then finding the log file, it did not 
show anything relevant or useful. Only two lines in the 580KB file containing 
"error" or "fail" and those were failing to find luarc or darktable.css files. 
I doubt if they are relevant.



Doug C.



 On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 14:34:07 -0400 August Schwerdfeger 
 wrote 


You might try adding '-d sql' to the Darktable options in your script. That 
dumps all the database log messages to the console, so you can check to see if 
anything is off with the database when you re-rate an image.

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Re: [darktable-user] Problem report with configuration using darktable 3.2.1

2020-08-11 Thread August Schwerdfeger

You might try adding '-d sql' to the Darktable options in your script. That
dumps all the database log messages to the console, so you can check to see
if anything is off with the database when you re-rate an image.

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On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 1:26 PM DougC  wrote:

> Complete newbie to darktable here. I have waited for 3.2 to begin my
> darktable experience but have immediately run into problems.
>
> I have installed Darktable 3.2.1 on Windows 10 64-bit using the installer
> from darktable.org/install. Fast i7 processor, fast GPU, 64GB RAM, lots
> of storage space.
>
> When I first ran it using all defaults and imported some images all looked
> and worked fine.
>
> However, I want to keep my images on external, removable storage and I
> want to keep the darktable library there also so the library on the
> external volume holds all the edits for the images on that volume. This way
> I can move the external storage between 3 different computers and always
> have the latest edits available.
>
> To test this on my main computer I put images on the external volume
> N:\2020 in folders by month and day. I created an empty folder named
> N:\darktable which is where I want the library to go.
>
> I then created this command script:
>   @echo off
>   cd /d "%~dp0"
>   start "darktable for %~dp0" darktable --library
> %~dp0darktable\library.db
>
> When I run it darktable starts I see
>   N:\>startdt
>   N:\>cd /d "N:\"
>   N:\>start "darktable for N:\" darktable --library
> N:\darktable\library.db
>
> which looks exactly the way it should.
>
> The N:\darktable folder now contains
>
> N:\>dir n:\darktable
>  Volume in drive N is P-2020-3A
>  Volume Serial Number is D4E5-96D2
>
>  Directory of n:\darktable
>
> 08/11/2020  02:00 PM  .
> 08/11/2020  02:00 PM  ..
> 08/11/2020  02:00 PM 0 library.db
> 08/11/2020  02:00 PM 0 library.db-pre-3.2.1
> 08/11/2020  02:00 PM 6 library.db.lock
>3 File(s)  6 bytes
>2 Dir(s)  53,829,632,000 bytes free
>
> which is also exactly what I expected.
>
> At this point darktable is running and using the library on N:\darktable
> but using all other defaults (for data.db and darktablerc).
>
> I can import the same image files as before but now the problem:
>
> When in lighttable, clicking on any star, or X to reject an image, I see
> the message popup that says the operation is being done but there is no
> indication in the UI that it has. All stars remain hollow. The X remains
> plain (unchecked). These operations worked fine when I started darktable
> with all defaults. In fact, I can re-start darktable using all defaults and
> it will again function correctly.
>
> So the question is, what else do I need to do when starting darktable from
> my script to get it to behave when using the library on external media?
>
>
>
>
>
> 
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[darktable-user] Problem report with configuration using darktable 3.2.1

2020-08-11 Thread DougC

Complete newbie to darktable here. I have waited for 3.2 to begin my darktable 
experience but have immediately run into problems.

I have installed Darktable 3.2.1 on Windows 10 64-bit using the installer from 
darktable.org/install. Fast i7 processor, fast GPU, 64GB RAM, lots of storage 
space.

When I first ran it using all defaults and imported some images all looked and 
worked fine.

However, I want to keep my images on external, removable storage and I want to 
keep the darktable library there also so the library on the external volume 
holds all the edits for the images on that volume. This way I can move the 
external storage between 3 different computers and always have the latest edits 
available.

To test this on my main computer I put images on the external volume N:\2020 in 
folders by month and day. I created an empty folder named N:\darktable which is 
where I want the library to go.

I then created this command script:
  @echo off

  cd /d "%~dp0"

  start "darktable for %~dp0" darktable --library %~dp0darktable\library.db



When I run it darktable starts I see

  N:\>startdt

  N:\>cd /d "N:\"

  N:\>start "darktable for N:\" darktable --library N:\darktable\library.db



which looks exactly the way it should. 



The N:\darktable folder now contains



N:\>dir n:\darktable

 Volume in drive N is P-2020-3A

 Volume Serial Number is D4E5-96D2



 Directory of n:\darktable



08/11/2020  02:00 PM      .

08/11/2020  02:00 PM      ..

08/11/2020  02:00 PM 0 library.db

08/11/2020  02:00 PM 0 library.db-pre-3.2.1

08/11/2020  02:00 PM 6 library.db.lock

   3 File(s)  6 bytes

   2 Dir(s)  53,829,632,000 bytes free


which is also exactly what I expected.

At this point darktable is running and using the library on N:\darktable but 
using all other defaults (for data.db and darktablerc).

I can import the same image files as before but now the problem:

When in lighttable, clicking on any star, or X to reject an image, I see the 
message popup that says the operation is being done but there is no indication 
in the UI that it has. All stars remain hollow. The X remains plain 
(unchecked). These operations worked fine when I started darktable with all 
defaults. In fact, I can re-start darktable using all defaults and it will 
again function correctly.

So the question is, what else do I need to do when starting darktable from my 
script to get it to behave when using the library on external media?

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Re: [darktable-user] darktable 3.2.1 released

2020-08-11 Thread J. Verreault

Building directory:
 /run/media/moi/Backups/Software/darktable/darktable-release-3.2.1/build
Installation prefix: /opt/darktable
Build type:  RelWithDebInfo
Build generator: Unix Makefiles
Build tasks: 12


./build.sh: line 305: cmake: command not found
[moi@LTop darktable-release-3.2.1]$

On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 13:57, Martin Anstett 
wrote:

> --> https://www.darktable.org/install/#3rdparty
>
> On 8/11/20 6:54 PM, GianLuca Sarto wrote:
> > My Ubuntu 20.04 still shows DT 3.0.1.
> >
> > How can I update?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > -Gian
> >
> > On 10/08/20 09:38, Pascal Obry wrote:
> >> We're proud to announce the new feature release of darktable, 3.2.1!
> >>
> >> Note that 3.2.0 has been skipped due to last minute bug fixes.
> >>
> >> The github release is here:
> >> [
> https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/tag/release-3.2.1](https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/tag/release-3.2.1)
> .
> >>
> >> As always, please don't use the autogenerated tarball provided by
> >> github, but only our tar.xz. the checksums are:
> >>
> >> ```
> >> $ sha256sum darktable-3.2.1.tar.xz
> >> 6e3683ea88dc0a0271be7eca4fd594b9e46b1b7194847825a8d0a0c12bdeb90c
> >> darktable-3.2.1.tar.xz
> >> $ sha256sum darktable-3.2.1.dmg
> >> 292b8327fdc2bd6346994d52f904e0d89078100c91eec2a7c6982f71f8dd24ca
> >> darktable-3.2.1.dmg
> >> $ sha256sum darktable-3.2.1.exe
> >> 7d21442aa31a627428cf9e56c85ecb4e985b544ea950d98b54ed0a6f123ad6d3
> >> darktable-3.2.1.exe
> >> ```
> >>
> >> When updating from the current stable 3.0.x series, please bear in
> >> mind that your edits will be preserved during the upgrade, but the new
> >> library and configuration files are not backward compatible; they're
> >> not usable with 3.0.x, so
> >> making a backup is strongly advised.
> >>
> >>  Important note: to make sure that darktable can keep supporting
> >> the raw file format from your camera, *please* read [this post](
> >> https://discuss.pixls.us/t/raw-samples-wanted/5420?u=lebedevri) on
> >> how/what raw samples you can contribute to ensure that we have the
> >> *full* raw sample set for your camera under CC0 license!
> >>
> >> - Almost 2700 commits to darktable+rawspeed since 3.0
> >> - 790 pull requests handled
> >> - 92 issues closed
> >> - Updated user manual is coming soon™
> >>
> >> ## The Big Ones
> >>
> >> - The *lighttable* view has been rewritten and the filmstrip reworked,
> >> resulting in large performance gains, especially when using the
> >> zoomable lighttable view. The culling view has also been rewritten from
> >> scratch. Operations are smooth at any screen resolution up to 8k.
> >>
> >>Many types of overlay are now possible on lighttable thumbs.
> >>Different overlay information can be selected depending on the thumb
> >>size on the lighttable. The different sizes can be set in the
> >>preferences, so we can have no overlay at all for small thumbs and
> >>full overlay when large thumbs are displayed. This is fully
> >>configurable.
> >>
> >>Likewise, the tooltip information when hovering the thumbs can be
> >>activated/deactivated based on the thumbs size.
> >>
> >> - The lighttable modules have improved user interaction: buttons are
> >>highlighted only when the context makes the action possible.
> >>
> >> - A complete overhaul of the CSS has been done. This gives
> >>darktable a professional look. This continues
> >>the goal to make every single aspect of the UI themable using CSS.
> >>
> >> - The Color Picker and
> >>Location modules are updated to better fit into the new UI, and
> >>most of the icons have been altered so as to be more
> >>visually balanced.
> >>
> >> - The preference dialog has been fully reviewed and reorganized to
> >>propose a better look and require less
> >>scrolling. It is also possible to add some CSS rules directly into
> >>the preference dialog to tweak darktable's look as well as
> >>to directly control the font size and DPI values from the general
> >>preference tab.
> >>
> >>A search field has been added to the shortcuts tab to help you find
> >>the keyboard shortcut you want to customize.
> >>
> >> - The new negadoctor module has been added to help inverting negative
> >>films.
> >>
> >> - A new histogram display called RGB Parade has been added. At the
> >>same time the histogram module height can now be adjusted with
> >>Ctrl+Scroll.
> >>
> >> - The metadata feature has been made generic internally and has new
> >>features. The user can now select the information they want to see
> >>in the metadata editor. This selection is automatically mirrored in
> >>the collection and image information modules.
> >>
> >>Along with a new "notes" field, all the fields are multiline
> >>Ctrl+Enter, sizable Ctrl+Scroll and can be set
> >>as private (not exported). Metadata collection filters have an entry
> >>"not defined". At import time it is

Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 3.2.1

2020-08-11 Thread Top Rock Photography

CORRECTION: I DID NOT download a G'MIC tarball and compile; I downloaded a
G'MIC *.deb file and installed.

Sincerely,

Karim Hosein
Top Rock Photography
754.999.1652



On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 14:04, Top Rock Photography <
ka...@toprockphotography.com> wrote:

> For LLVM, I installed,
> llvm-10-dev
> Your system may have it listed as a dependency package,
> llvm-dev
> depending on the latest version. That being said, my system, (Ubuntu
> 20.04), has llvm-7-dev, llvm-8-dev, & llvm-9-dev, also installed, (I
> suppose they were dependencies of some other development tool I installed).
> I also do NOT have llvm-dev installed, but it is available.
>
> For G'MIC, I tried using,
> libgmic-2.4.5-1.1
> but that did not work. I downloaded the latest (stable) tarball, 2.9.1,
> and compiled. That worked.
>
> For libavif, I tried,
> libaom-dev (1.0.0)
> but that did not work. I downloaded the latest (stabe) version of
> libaom/aom-tools, (2.0.0), using git, (
> https://aomedia.googlesource.com/aom/), and compiled. Still did not work,
> BUT, was still necessary.
>
> I then downloaded the latest libavif (0.8.1) using git, (
> https://github.com/AOMediaCodec/libavif), and tried to compile.  Had
> trouble, so this is what I had to do….
>
>
>1. Re-compile libaom using these parameters…
>cmake -fPIC -DBUILD_SHARED_LIBS=1 -DENABLE_EXAMPLES=1 -DENABLE_TOOLS=1
>-DCONFIG_AV1_DECODER=1 -DCONFIG_AV1_ENCODER=1 -DCONFIG_LIBYUV=1
>-DCONFIG_WEBM_IO=1 -DCONFIG_MULTITHREAD=1 -DENABLE_DOCS=1 ..
>make [-j6]
>sudo make install
>2. Re-compile libavif using these parameters…
>cmake -fPIC -DBUILD_SHARED_LIBS=1 -DAVIF_CODEC_AOM=1 -D
>-DAVIF_BUILD_EXAMPLES=1 -DAVIF_BUILD_APPS=1 ..
>make [-j6]
>sudo make install
>3. Recompile Darktable according to their recommendations.
>
> No errors on compile, everything now, “works.”
>
> Okay, so saving as an AVIF image takes forever on my old hardware, and I
> have no idea how to tell if the resulting files are any good. (I do not
> have a viewer with AVIF capabilities, yet). The AVIF libraries are still in
> beta. That being said, the encoder apparently does use all my cores when
> encoding, and, according to the specs, the decoding ought to be much, much,
> much faster. (It takes the time to encode effectively once, so that it can
> decode efficiently thousands of times).
>
> That all being said, the lack of these libraries will not stop darktable
> from working. LLVM makes the code/execution more efficient. G'MIC adds some
> functionality, (cannot recall precisely what at this time), and libavif
> allows one to save the final image in the AV1 image file format.
>
> Most people save the final image in JPEG JFIF, (regular ‘JPEG’), or WebP,
> and save intermediaries in OpenEXR,  (16-bit/32-bit float, industry
> standard), TIFF, (16-bit float, 16-bit integer, seems to be universally
> readable, but do not bet on it), PNG (16-bit integer, and universally
> readable), or XCF (8/16-bit integer, or 32-bit float, GIMP/Krita compatible
> image) format for further processing by others, or with other software.
>
> So it can be ‘fixed,’ but does not need to be.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Karim Hosein
> Top Rock Photography
> 754.999.1652
>
>
>
> On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 at 05:50, Dieter Faulbaum 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I want to compile darktable "as complete as possible" on a Debian
>> testing system.
>>
>> But I get hints (from build.sh):
>>
>> -- The following OPTIONAL packages have not been found:
>>
>>  * LLVM (required version >= 3.9)
>>  * libavif (required version >= 0.7.2)
>>  * GMIC
>>
>> I have llvm (version 9) installed and
>> libavifile-0.7-dev (version 0.7.48~20090503.ds-20.1+b1) and
>> libgmic-dev (version 2.4.5-1.1) too
>>
>> Can anyone tell me, what is needed to get rid of these hints?
>> Is it possible on Debian testing?
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> 
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Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 3.2.1

2020-08-11 Thread Top Rock Photography

For LLVM, I installed,
llvm-10-dev
Your system may have it listed as a dependency package,
llvm-dev
depending on the latest version. That being said, my system, (Ubuntu
20.04), has llvm-7-dev, llvm-8-dev, & llvm-9-dev, also installed, (I
suppose they were dependencies of some other development tool I installed).
I also do NOT have llvm-dev installed, but it is available.

For G'MIC, I tried using,
libgmic-2.4.5-1.1
but that did not work. I downloaded the latest (stable) tarball, 2.9.1, and
compiled. That worked.

For libavif, I tried,
libaom-dev (1.0.0)
but that did not work. I downloaded the latest (stabe) version of
libaom/aom-tools, (2.0.0), using git, (https://aomedia.googlesource.com/aom/),
and compiled. Still did not work, BUT, was still necessary.

I then downloaded the latest libavif (0.8.1) using git, (
https://github.com/AOMediaCodec/libavif), and tried to compile.  Had
trouble, so this is what I had to do….

   1. Re-compile libaom using these parameters…
   cmake -fPIC -DBUILD_SHARED_LIBS=1 -DENABLE_EXAMPLES=1 -DENABLE_TOOLS=1
   -DCONFIG_AV1_DECODER=1 -DCONFIG_AV1_ENCODER=1 -DCONFIG_LIBYUV=1
   -DCONFIG_WEBM_IO=1 -DCONFIG_MULTITHREAD=1 -DENABLE_DOCS=1 ..
   make [-j6]
   sudo make install
   2. Re-compile libavif using these parameters…
   cmake -fPIC -DBUILD_SHARED_LIBS=1 -DAVIF_CODEC_AOM=1 -D
   -DAVIF_BUILD_EXAMPLES=1 -DAVIF_BUILD_APPS=1 ..
   make [-j6]
   sudo make install
   3. Recompile Darktable according to their recommendations.

No errors on compile, everything now, “works.”

Okay, so saving as an AVIF image takes forever on my old hardware, and I
have no idea how to tell if the resulting files are any good. (I do not
have a viewer with AVIF capabilities, yet). The AVIF libraries are still in
beta. That being said, the encoder apparently does use all my cores when
encoding, and, according to the specs, the decoding ought to be much, much,
much faster. (It takes the time to encode effectively once, so that it can
decode efficiently thousands of times).

That all being said, the lack of these libraries will not stop darktable
from working. LLVM makes the code/execution more efficient. G'MIC adds some
functionality, (cannot recall precisely what at this time), and libavif
allows one to save the final image in the AV1 image file format.

Most people save the final image in JPEG JFIF, (regular ‘JPEG’), or WebP,
and save intermediaries in OpenEXR,  (16-bit/32-bit float, industry
standard), TIFF, (16-bit float, 16-bit integer, seems to be universally
readable, but do not bet on it), PNG (16-bit integer, and universally
readable), or XCF (8/16-bit integer, or 32-bit float, GIMP/Krita compatible
image) format for further processing by others, or with other software.

So it can be ‘fixed,’ but does not need to be.

Sincerely,

Karim Hosein
Top Rock Photography
754.999.1652

On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 at 05:50, Dieter Faulbaum 
wrote:

>
> I want to compile darktable "as complete as possible" on a Debian
> testing system.
>
> But I get hints (from build.sh):
>
> -- The following OPTIONAL packages have not been found:
>
>  * LLVM (required version >= 3.9)
>  * libavif (required version >= 0.7.2)
>  * GMIC
>
> I have llvm (version 9) installed and
> libavifile-0.7-dev (version 0.7.48~20090503.ds-20.1+b1) and
> libgmic-dev (version 2.4.5-1.1) too
>
> Can anyone tell me, what is needed to get rid of these hints?
> Is it possible on Debian testing?
>
>
> Cheers
>
> 
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> darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
>
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Re: [darktable-user] darktable 3.2.1 released

2020-08-11 Thread Martin Anstett

--> https://www.darktable.org/install/#3rdparty

On 8/11/20 6:54 PM, GianLuca Sarto wrote:

My Ubuntu 20.04 still shows DT 3.0.1.

How can I update?

Thanks,

-Gian

On 10/08/20 09:38, Pascal Obry wrote:

We're proud to announce the new feature release of darktable, 3.2.1!

Note that 3.2.0 has been skipped due to last minute bug fixes.

The github release is here:
[https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/tag/release-3.2.1](https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/tag/release-3.2.1).

As always, please don't use the autogenerated tarball provided by
github, but only our tar.xz. the checksums are:

```
$ sha256sum darktable-3.2.1.tar.xz
6e3683ea88dc0a0271be7eca4fd594b9e46b1b7194847825a8d0a0c12bdeb90c
darktable-3.2.1.tar.xz
$ sha256sum darktable-3.2.1.dmg
292b8327fdc2bd6346994d52f904e0d89078100c91eec2a7c6982f71f8dd24ca
darktable-3.2.1.dmg
$ sha256sum darktable-3.2.1.exe
7d21442aa31a627428cf9e56c85ecb4e985b544ea950d98b54ed0a6f123ad6d3
darktable-3.2.1.exe
```

When updating from the current stable 3.0.x series, please bear in
mind that your edits will be preserved during the upgrade, but the new
library and configuration files are not backward compatible; they're
not usable with 3.0.x, so
making a backup is strongly advised.

Important note: to make sure that darktable can keep supporting
the raw file format from your camera, *please* read [this post](
https://discuss.pixls.us/t/raw-samples-wanted/5420?u=lebedevri) on
how/what raw samples you can contribute to ensure that we have the
*full* raw sample set for your camera under CC0 license!

- Almost 2700 commits to darktable+rawspeed since 3.0
- 790 pull requests handled
- 92 issues closed
- Updated user manual is coming soon™

## The Big Ones

- The *lighttable* view has been rewritten and the filmstrip reworked,
resulting in large performance gains, especially when using the
zoomable lighttable view. The culling view has also been rewritten from
scratch. Operations are smooth at any screen resolution up to 8k.

Many types of overlay are now possible on lighttable thumbs.
Different overlay information can be selected depending on the thumb
size on the lighttable. The different sizes can be set in the
preferences, so we can have no overlay at all for small thumbs and
full overlay when large thumbs are displayed. This is fully
configurable.

Likewise, the tooltip information when hovering the thumbs can be
activated/deactivated based on the thumbs size.

- The lighttable modules have improved user interaction: buttons are
highlighted only when the context makes the action possible.

- A complete overhaul of the CSS has been done. This gives
darktable a professional look. This continues
the goal to make every single aspect of the UI themable using CSS.

- The Color Picker and
Location modules are updated to better fit into the new UI, and
most of the icons have been altered so as to be more
visually balanced.

- The preference dialog has been fully reviewed and reorganized to
propose a better look and require less
scrolling. It is also possible to add some CSS rules directly into
the preference dialog to tweak darktable's look as well as
to directly control the font size and DPI values from the general
preference tab.

A search field has been added to the shortcuts tab to help you find
the keyboard shortcut you want to customize.

- The new negadoctor module has been added to help inverting negative
films.

- A new histogram display called RGB Parade has been added. At the
same time the histogram module height can now be adjusted with
Ctrl+Scroll.

- The metadata feature has been made generic internally and has new
features. The user can now select the information they want to see
in the metadata editor. This selection is automatically mirrored in
the collection and image information modules.

Along with a new "notes" field, all the fields are multiline
Ctrl+Enter, sizable Ctrl+Scroll and can be set
as private (not exported). Metadata collection filters have an entry
"not defined". At import time it is possible to choose not to import
some metadata.

- Image change detection has been made more reliable. This affects the
lighttable thumbnails change symbol and history collection filter,
which is now more accurate. In darkroom navigation, this avoids the
need to recalculate an image and save the xmp file when there is
no change.

- A new down-sampling preference has been introduced for faster
response in darkroom. The preview is either computed at full
resolution (original, default value) or at 1/2, 1/3 or 1/4 of the
original size. This allow for better performance but can slightly
hinder the precision of the guided filter masking.

Note that this is a very delicate feature to implement. A lot of
care has been taken to ensure all is correct when using down
sampling. It touches all areas of darktable, like

Re: [darktable-user] darktable 3.2.1 released

2020-08-11 Thread GianLuca Sarto

My Ubuntu 20.04 still shows DT 3.0.1.

How can I update?

Thanks,

-Gian

On 10/08/20 09:38, Pascal Obry wrote:

We're proud to announce the new feature release of darktable, 3.2.1!

Note that 3.2.0 has been skipped due to last minute bug fixes.

The github release is here:
[https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/tag/release-3.2.1](https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/tag/release-3.2.1).

As always, please don't use the autogenerated tarball provided by
github, but only our tar.xz. the checksums are:

- Almost 2700 commits to darktable+rawspeed since 3.0
- 790 pull requests handled
- 92 issues closed
- Updated user manual is coming soon™

## The Big Ones

Likewise, the tooltip information when hovering the thumbs can be
activated/deactivated based on the thumbs size.

- The lighttable modules have improved user interaction: buttons are
highlighted only when the context makes the action possible.

- A complete overhaul of the CSS has been done. This gives
darktable a professional look. This continues
the goal to make every single aspect of the UI themable using CSS.

- The Color Picker and
Location modules are updated to better fit into the new UI, and
most of the icons have been altered so as to be more
visually balanced.

A search field has been added to the shortcuts tab to help you find
the keyboard shortcut you want to customize.

- The new negadoctor module has been added to help inverting negative
films.

- A new histogram display called RGB Parade has been added. At the
same time the histogram module height can now be adjusted with
Ctrl+Scroll.

Note that this is a very delicate feature to implement. A lot of
care has been taken to ensure all is correct when using down
sampling. It touches all areas of darktable, like masks, guided
filter, liquify controls, crop & rotate, lens and perspective

Re: [darktable-user] crop

2020-08-11 Thread Bernhard


just did a Test:

As long as you start with "Original" you can switch to every fixed 
aspect ratio and the orientation stays as is (landscape in my case). But 
if you once select "free" every fixed aspect ratio you select 
_afterwards_ will be 90° rotated - that is portrait in my case.


--

regards
Bernhard

https://www.bilddateien.de



Jean-Luc Lacroix schrieb am 11.08.20 um 18:26:

Same here. Definitely worth a bug report.

Cheers

Jean-Luc

Le 11/08/20 à 15:55, Patrick Shanahan a écrit :

* Miklós Müller  [08-11-20 08:50]:

Hello,

I just compiled 3.2.1 and noticed that aspect selection does not work
correctly (except for freehand and square). The aspect is selected 
but for
the wrong orientation. So when I select "original image" for a 
landscape

image, a portrait crop selection pops up.

Did others notice this too, or is it just something wrong with my
configuration? I tried to rotate my image with the orientation tool 
to see
if that makes any difference, but the same problem occurs with a 
rotated

image too.

yes, I see it also.  The next step would be to file an issue @
   https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/new/choose
providing all the requested information.

Your contribution to the darktable project.

tks,


 


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Re: [darktable-user] crop

2020-08-11 Thread Jean-Luc Lacroix


Same here. Definitely worth a bug report.

Cheers

Jean-Luc

Le 11/08/20 à 15:55, Patrick Shanahan a écrit :

* Miklós Müller  [08-11-20 08:50]:

Hello,

I just compiled 3.2.1 and noticed that aspect selection does not work
correctly (except for freehand and square). The aspect is selected but for
the wrong orientation. So when I select "original image" for a landscape
image, a portrait crop selection pops up.

Did others notice this too, or is it just something wrong with my
configuration? I tried to rotate my image with the orientation tool to see
if that makes any difference, but the same problem occurs with a rotated
image too.

yes, I see it also.  The next step would be to file an issue @
   https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/new/choose
providing all the requested information.

Your contribution to the darktable project.

tks,



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Re: [darktable-user] Bug in 3.2.1

2020-08-11 Thread Jean-Luc Lacroix


v 3.2.1

Can not reproduce that behavior on a Debian stable with single GPU 
(GeForce GTX 970). Could that be related to your multiple GPU configuration?


Cheers,

Jean-Luc

Le 11/08/20 à 17:37, Michael Rasmussen a écrit :

Hi all,

Just opened an issue in the bug tracker:
https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/5922

Maybe others facing the same problem?




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[darktable-user] Titles don't appear in image information

2020-08-11 Thread Bill Martz

Windows 10, dt 3.2.1.

I usually name my duplicates, but the names are not showing up in the Title
slot in the image information display. As a first step to attempt to fix
it, I uninstalled and reinstalled dt, but it still doesn't work. What is
strange is that I manually created a second installation, and when I run
that one, the titles do appear.


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Re: [darktable-user] crop

2020-08-11 Thread Miklós Müller

https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/5921

On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 3:56 PM Patrick Shanahan  wrote:

> * Miklós Müller  [08-11-20 08:50]:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I just compiled 3.2.1 and noticed that aspect selection does not work
> > correctly (except for freehand and square). The aspect is selected but
> for
> > the wrong orientation. So when I select "original image" for a landscape
> > image, a portrait crop selection pops up.
> >
> > Did others notice this too, or is it just something wrong with my
> > configuration? I tried to rotate my image with the orientation tool to
> see
> > if that makes any difference, but the same problem occurs with a rotated
> > image too.
>
> yes, I see it also.  The next step would be to file an issue @
>   https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/new/choose
> providing all the requested information.
>
> Your contribution to the darktable project.
>
> tks,
> --
> (paka)Patrick Shanahan   Plainfield, Indiana, USA  @ptilopteri
> http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri
> Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo   paka @ IRCnet freenode
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Re: [darktable-user] crop

2020-08-11 Thread Patrick Shanahan

* Miklós Müller  [08-11-20 08:50]:
> Hello,
> 
> I just compiled 3.2.1 and noticed that aspect selection does not work
> correctly (except for freehand and square). The aspect is selected but for
> the wrong orientation. So when I select "original image" for a landscape
> image, a portrait crop selection pops up.
> 
> Did others notice this too, or is it just something wrong with my
> configuration? I tried to rotate my image with the orientation tool to see
> if that makes any difference, but the same problem occurs with a rotated
> image too.

yes, I see it also.  The next step would be to file an issue @
  https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/new/choose
providing all the requested information.

Your contribution to the darktable project.

tks,  
-- 
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Re: [darktable-user] crop

2020-08-11 Thread Michael Staats

On 11/08/2020 14:28, Miklós Müller wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I just compiled 3.2.1 and noticed that aspect selection does not work
> correctly (except for freehand and square). The aspect is selected but
> for the wrong orientation. So when I select "original image" for a
> landscape image, a portrait crop selection pops up.
>
> Did others notice this too, or is it just something wrong with my
> configuration? I tried to rotate my image with the orientation tool to
> see if that makes any difference, but the same problem occurs with a
> rotated image too.

Hi
Same here. Can be solved by clicking on the "rotate" icon beside the
aspect, this rotates the aspect (not the picture). Not sure if this
happens always, just had it 10 mins ago.
Best regards,
Michael


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Re: [darktable-user] darktable 3.2.1 released

2020-08-11 Thread Jean-Luc Lacroix

Just built it. Thanks to all the dev's.

Cheers

Jean-Luc

Le 10/08/20 à 09:38, Pascal Obry a écrit :

We're proud to announce the new feature release of darktable, 3.2.1!

Note that 3.2.0 has been skipped due to last minute bug fixes.

The github release is here:
[https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/tag/release-3.2.1](https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/tag/release-3.2.1).

As always, please don't use the autogenerated tarball provided by
github, but only our tar.xz. the checksums are:

- Almost 2700 commits to darktable+rawspeed since 3.0
- 790 pull requests handled
- 92 issues closed
- Updated user manual is coming soon™

## The Big Ones

Likewise, the tooltip information when hovering the thumbs can be
activated/deactivated based on the thumbs size.

- The lighttable modules have improved user interaction: buttons are
highlighted only when the context makes the action possible.

- A complete overhaul of the CSS has been done. This gives
darktable a professional look. This continues
the goal to make every single aspect of the UI themable using CSS.

- The Color Picker and
Location modules are updated to better fit into the new UI, and
most of the icons have been altered so as to be more
visually balanced.

A search field has been added to the shortcuts tab to help you find
the keyboard shortcut you want to customize.

- The new negadoctor module has been added to help inverting negative
films.

- A new histogram display called RGB Parade has been added. At the
same time the histogram module height can now be adjusted with
Ctrl+Scroll.

[darktable-user] crop

2020-08-11 Thread Miklós Müller

Hello,

I just compiled 3.2.1 and noticed that aspect selection does not work
correctly (except for freehand and square). The aspect is selected but for
the wrong orientation. So when I select "original image" for a landscape
image, a portrait crop selection pops up.

Did others notice this too, or is it just something wrong with my
configuration? I tried to rotate my image with the orientation tool to see
if that makes any difference, but the same problem occurs with a rotated
image too.

Miklos


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Re: [darktable-user] Windows darktable V 3.2.1 - does not load/import lightable files or folder

2020-08-11 Thread Harald

Hi Ross,

I recommend using a start option to enable debugging mode to help better
understand what is really going on here...

For example I start darktable like this :

c:/tools/.../darktable/bin/darktable --cachedir c:/... _-d_ lua -d
opencl -d perf

Related help can be retrieved here:

https://darktable.gitlab.io/doc/en/overview_chapter.html#darktable_commandline_parameters

Regards

Haribo

Am 11.08.2020 um 08:05 schrieb Ross Tucker:
> Hi Terry:
>
> I uninstalled  darktable  with their uninstaller.
> downloaded the 64 bit pgm file again.
> reinstalled again.
> tried again.
> still NG.
> Something is stubbornly refusing to let  darktable  import folders.
> I have let it import jpgs (I have RAW & JPG) plus I let it recurse
> directories, but still NG.
>
> Tried editing a bit and that seems to work as before, but lighttable
> is still a no-go for me at the moment.
> I can still access files by opening them from windows explorer, but of
> course I lose all the features (tagging, stars, colour tags, etc.)
> from lighttable.
>
> Glad it's working for you though.
>
> rss
>
> On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 11:13, Terry Pinfold  > wrote:
>
> Hi Ross,
>      I just installed it on my windows computer. Followed the
> instruction to let DT upgrade the database. Then imported a new
> folder and it was fine. I look forward to exploring the improved
> features and options. No problems yet. 
>
> On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 09:05, Ross Tucker  > wrote:
>
> Hi:
>
> With much excitement I installed  darktable  V 3.2.1 after
> running V 3.0.2 since it's release about 8 months ago.  3.0.2
> had problems and limited some of the edits I could do but I
> still could use it.  3.2.1 has edited one file so far so that
> was nice.  I went to import a folder full of my latest  NEF
> images but nothing loaded.  I tried importing a single file
> into lightable and that too would not work.  Note that I can
> still go to  windows-10  and RMB on a file and choose Open
> with -- darktable and the image will open in  3.2.1.  I doubt
> that I'm doing anything wrong but . . .
>
> Thanks again for a wonderful FOSS photo product - it is an
> excellent editor and I've enjoyed my beginning steps with
> learning the edit functions and features, tips and tricks.
>
> Sincerely
>
> Ross Tucker
>
> 
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> University of Tasmania 
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Re: [darktable-user] Windows darktable V 3.2.1 - does not load/import lightable files or folder

2020-08-11 Thread KOVÁCS István

On Tue, 11 Aug 2020, 01:49 Ross Tucker,  wrote:

> I have added myself to darktable GitHub and am awaiting confirmation.
>

You don't need to join the darktable organisation: you only need a
github account and raise an issue.

Kofa

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Re: [darktable-user] Windows darktable V 3.2.1 - does not load/import lightable files or folder

2020-08-11 Thread Ross Tucker

Hi Terry:

I uninstalled  darktable  with their uninstaller.
downloaded the 64 bit pgm file again.
reinstalled again.
tried again.
still NG.
Something is stubbornly refusing to let  darktable  import folders.
I have let it import jpgs (I have RAW & JPG) plus I let it recurse
directories, but still NG.

Tried editing a bit and that seems to work as before, but lighttable is
still a no-go for me at the moment.
I can still access files by opening them from windows explorer, but of
course I lose all the features (tagging, stars, colour tags, etc.) from
lighttable.

Glad it's working for you though.

rss

On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 11:13, Terry Pinfold  wrote:

> Hi Ross,
>  I just installed it on my windows computer. Followed the instruction
> to let DT upgrade the database. Then imported a new folder and it was fine.
> I look forward to exploring the improved features and options. No problems
> yet.
>
> On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 09:05, Ross Tucker  wrote:
>
>> Hi:
>>
>> With much excitement I installed  darktable  V 3.2.1 after running V
>> 3.0.2 since it's release about 8 months ago.  3.0.2 had problems and
>> limited some of the edits I could do but I still could use it.  3.2.1 has
>> edited one file so far so that was nice.  I went to import a folder full of
>> my latest  NEF images but nothing loaded.  I tried importing a single file
>> into lightable and that too would not work.  Note that I can still go to
>> windows-10  and RMB on a file and choose Open with -- darktable and the
>> image will open in  3.2.1.  I doubt that I'm doing anything wrong but . . .
>>
>> Thanks again for a wonderful FOSS photo product - it is an excellent
>> editor and I've enjoyed my beginning steps with learning the edit functions
>> and features, tips and tricks.
>>
>> Sincerely
>>
>> Ross Tucker
>>
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