Re: [darktable-user] darktable 2.6, haze removal and artifact when exporting

[HaJo Schatz]

Seems like nobody knows why. Reposting 3 times with the same attachments
won't help... But if you think it's an error in dt then you could file a
bug report.
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On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 5:28 AM  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I use dt  2.6.3~git2.22c690a53 on Debian.
>
> I found a strange behavior with the haze removal module.
>
> I join some picture to explain.
>
> * interface darktable.png -> To show history and preview in darktable.
> * Interface dt export.png -> To show export parameter.
> * result.png -> And the result with the black spots
>
> The haze removal module has these parameters: strength 0.2 and distance
> 0.250. Reducing strength to 0..10 and the export is ok.
>
>
> This is also related to the resolution of the exported picture.
>
> * strength 0.2 and 3072*3072 export : black spot.
>
> * strength 0.2 and 2048*2048 export : no black spot.
>
>
> If you have explanation or tips for this, I take :)
>
> Regards, Fabrice.
>
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Re: [darktable-user] Z & Control Z feature

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On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 7:23 AM Patrick Shanahan  wrote:

> yes, but I have no idea what a toothwheel is.
>

Google is full of pertinent images ;-)

Although I must admit that there's another commonly used word for it.


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Re: Re(6): [darktable-user] Import Lightroom DNGs to DT

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Pascal,

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 4:49 PM Pascal Obry  wrote:

> Are you well seated ?
>
> If so have a look here :
> https://www.darktable.org/2013/02/importing-lightroom-development/
>
> The earth is shaking heavily over here, yes :-) Thx for the info! I
wouldn't however dare asking anyone to actually maintain this; I guess
Adobe keeps changing things and keeping that in-sync in an importer is
chasing one's own tail :-)

It ts not perfect but of great help !
>

Absolutely. Great job there!


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Re: Re(6): [darktable-user] Import Lightroom DNGs to DT

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On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 2:15 AM Subhash Fotografie 
wrote:

> [Guillermo Rozas  schrieb am 12.2.2020 um 15:01
> Uhr:]
>
> >darktable expects a file with extension
> >.dng.xmp, and it is ignoring the plain .xmp file? (but that doesn't
> >explain why you see the tags...)
>
> No, DT is expected to read the .xmp file from LR. But as I mentioned
> before I have DNGs Lightroom has created. For these files there are no .xmp
> files because LR writes everything directly into the DNGs. So for a test I
> extracted the .xmp from one of these DNGs with exiftool (in the meantime I
> tried various commands), named it correctly, put it in the same directory
> as the image file and hoped that DT will read all or most of the LR edits
> now when importing the image to its library. But it did not.
>
>
Apologies if I've missed quite a bit of the discussion, somehow threading
sometimes seems broken for this list.

Anyway, Subhash, are you expecting your "edits" such as exposure, colors,
sharpness, etc to be imported into darktable from lightroom? If that would
be possible at all then my world would collapse... Those things - the
processing pipeline - are proprietary to lightroom and will probably never
ever be supported by darktable.

The only thing you can expect to import is the metadata (Title, copyright,
tags, ... I.e. text that you entered in lightroom). Maybe this would shed
some light:
https://mathiashueber.com/migrate-from-lightroom-to-open-source-alternative/


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Re: [darktable-user] Installing darktable 3.0 on windows

[HaJo Schatz]

Open a cmd-prompt (START, then type 'cmd'). 'cd' into the darktable program
directory. run darktable with 'darktable -d'. That should produce
debug-output which the experts here might be able to read, understand and
comment on.
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On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 5:21 AM Delbert brown  wrote:

> What I have done so far several times
>
>1. I uninstalled both 2.6 and 3.0
>2. I went through my hard drive deleted everything associated with
>darktable all folder even data bases and libraries under appdata/ local
>3. I have went through my registry and deleted every entry that
>reference darktable
>4. I upgraded my video drivers
>5. I rolled back my video drivers to previous versions
>6. I changed video cards
>7. I have tried running with no video card on onboard video
>8. I tried reinstalling both versions of darktable each twice after
>doing all this.
>
> For some reason after attempting to upgrade to version 3.0 I can no long
> run either version of darktable even after cleaning the system as mentioned
> above
>
> 2.6 will no longer open it just flashes a black screen like a cmd prompt
> screen  and nothing happens darktable doesn’t even appear in task manager.
>
> 3.0 opens to the first screen and stops it appears in the task manager but
> appears to be idle using no resources
>
> Thank You
> Delbert Brown
>
> delbert_br...@mts.net
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Re: [darktable-user] A Slideshow maker

[HaJo Schatz]

You need to be a bit more specific about your exact needs to get a clear
answer.
- Do you just want to play music and slides? Then start your favorite music
player, let it play some playlist, background it and start DTs or any other
slide show.
- Do you want sound and slides to be synced? You could just record your
sound/music into an MP3 track and then follow the above
- Do you want to create a single file containing sound and image; something
like a pps/ Then you'd need the respective player to play it back. A video
player supporting MP4 would be a common choice ;-)

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On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 3:48 AM David Vincent-Jones 
wrote:

> When Impress is used it creates a video which further
> compresses/compromises the image data. I was looking for a simple slideshow
> that has capabilities to add audio without using video re-sampling and
> compression.
> David
>
> On 9/18/19 11:36 AM, Ricardo Kozmate.Net wrote:
>
> Em 17/09/19 21:46, David Vincent-Jones escreveu:
>
> Does anybody know of a simple slideshow program with a sound-over option
> that does not need to go through a video conversion process?
>
>
> Doesn't a "regular" slideshow editor does what you need?
>
> LibreOffice Impress allow to add sound to slides (and play automatically
> or, I presume, also on command), I haven't used MS PowerPoint for long but
> I bet it does too.
> 
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Re: Fwd: [darktable-user] Need help with compiling from git

[HaJo Schatz]

If you need some package (such as libjpeg) to compile a source (such as
darktable), then you need to install the respective "developer" version of
libjpeg. I.e. the headers of the library which darktable requires. A quick
search on [1] (not sure if your system uses Debian though) reveals that for
libjpeg the correct package would be libjpeg-devel. So "apt install
libjpeg-devel" shoud do the trick. I'm no longer fluent in apt, but
something like "apt search libjpeg" or "apt find jpeg" should also give you
an idea. "man apt" will help there...

[1]
https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=default=all=any=names=libjpeg


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On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 3:55 PM Bruce Williams  wrote:

> Hi again,
> So, the list of required software mentions
> libsqlite3, libjpeg, libpng, libpugixml, rawspeed (supplied), gtk+-3,
> cairo, lcms2, exiv2, tiff, curl, gphoto2, dbus-glib, fop, openexr,
> libsoup2.4
>
> I tried opening a terminal and issuing commands like
> $ sudo apt-get install 
>
> ...where  is any of the aforementioned prerequisites.
> Most of them failed with a message that said "unable to locate the
> package".
> What did I do wrong?
>
> Cheers,
> Bruce Williams
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> Date: Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 1:40 AM
> Subject: Re: Fwd: [darktable-user] Need help with compiling from git
> To: Bruce Williams 
>
>
> It would be nice to have for a reference a definitive set of instructions
> for this complete operation
>
> David
> On 8/28/19 10:59 PM, Bruce Williams wrote:
>
> Aa!
> I was looking for that list of dependencies!
> Further down the page in the section on "Git version", there's a line
> which says "You can find a list of them here."
> ...but it doesn't contain a link.
> Thanks for the heads up!
> I shall try again.
> Cheers,
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> From: August Schwerdfeger 
> Date: Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 3:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Need help with compiling from git
> To: 
>
>
> According to this error log, LLVM not being found is just a warning --
> what is actually tripping the build up is the absence of the XML parsing
> program, 'xmllint'.
>
> Have you tried installing all the packages in the list of dependencies on
> Darktable's install page (https://www.darktable.org/install/#source)?
> That should have tracked in the XML parser.
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>
> On 8/29/19 12:26 AM, Bruce Williams wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> Yes, I'm finally taking the plunge and trying to get my head around git
> and all that comes with that. :)
> I've created a new user profile on my linux box just so I don't screw up
> my main user profile.
> Anyway... got as far as $ ./build.sh
> A bunch of text flew past, which all seemed to be going ok until
> 
> -- Found desktop-file-validate
> -- Could NOT find LLVM (missing: LLVM_DIR)
> -- Could NOT find LLVM (missing: LLVM_DIR)
> -- Could NOT find LLVM (missing: LLVM_DIR)
> -- Could NOT find LLVM (missing: LLVM_DIR)
> -- Could NOT find LLVM (missing: LLVM_DIR)
> -- Could NOT find LLVM (missing: LLVM_DIR)
> CMake Warning at CMakeLists.txt:311 (message):
>   Could not find LLVM 3.9+
>
>
> CMake Warning at CMakeLists.txt:312 (message):
>   Test-compilation of OpenCL programs can not be done.
>
>
> -- Test-compilation of OpenCL programs is disabled.
> -- Missing jsonschema, problems in noiseprofiles.json might go unnoticed
> -- Missing xsltproc
> -- Missing saxon-xslt
> -- No xslt interpreter found
> -- Missing xmllint
> CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:361 (message):
>   Some external programs couldn't be found
>
>
> -- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!
> See also "/home/darktable/darktable/build/CMakeFiles/CMakeOutput.log".
> See also "/home/darktable/darktable/build/CMakeFiles/CMakeError.log".
> 
>
> Anyone able to help me out here, please?
> I searched the 

Re: [darktable-user] Export: $(REVISION) numbering inconsistency

[HaJo Schatz]

On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 11:44 PM Dusenberg  wrote:

> My workflow needs to keep track of which raw version each development
> stream belongs to, as well as the sequence in a stream of each exported
> file and edit sidecar (so I can revert or branch).
>
Only loosely related but -- with such requirements, my first thought would
probably be to try & use a (local) revision control system. Lets you
annotate changes, revert, branch and whatnot.

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Re: [darktable-user] What about adding more IPTC fields to the metadata editor?

[HaJo Schatz]

I'm using both DT and DK on Linux and don't import/export. Both programs
have access to the folder structure that holds my photos and tagging in one
program is seamlessly picked up by the other. I use sidecars for RAW
images, obviously.
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On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 2:05 PM Kneops  wrote:

> I asked this before and there are a number of replies about this. See
> below. Unfortunately it seems that almost no one wants or needs this???
> Imho it is so basic to photography and DAM.
>
> It's the most important part in DT that I and is now forcing me to buy a
> second computer with Windows and a subscription to Adobe CC instead of
> using DT (I'm using Linux Mint).  I'm a freelancer and this year I will
> be able to work for a newspaper and they require a few extra IPTC
> fields, like Person Show in Image, Location, City, Job ID and some more.
> I tried using Adobe in Virtualbox with shared folders, but this isn't
> really working very well. Digikam is an option as well as command line
> tools, but I don't like the idea of using two programs, plus it would be
> very inefficient to export from DT, then import in DigiKam and add
> metadata there and export again.
>
> https://redmine.darktable.org/issues/12266
> https://redmine.darktable.org/issues/9531
> https://redmine.darktable.org/issues/12476
>
> Jack
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Re: [darktable-user] Centos 6.8 and darktable

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Would an Appimage be an option for the OP? Maybe worth a try:
https://bintray.com/probono/AppImages/Darktable#files

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On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Roman Lebedev  wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 7:39 AM,   wrote:
> > Does that version work with the Canon Rebel T6 1300D ?
> Basic support for that camera was added 28 Jul 2016.
> 1.6.9 was released on 15 Oct 2015
>
> Anything older than 2.2.x is hopelessly old, unsupported, and should
> not be used.
> If you are using LTS distro / simply do not want to update, then that
> is your problem.
>
> > Ron
> Roman.
>
> > On 08/29/2017 10:29 PM, Robert William Hutton wrote:
> >> On 30/08/17 01:55, F L wrote:
> >>> It's a regular Dell laptop.  I got a little further with 2.0.7, but
> >>> that one was complaining about GTK3 not being there.  I guess the one
> >>> that comes with teh RHEL/Centos 6.8 distro (darktable-1.0.5) is
> >>> probably the only one that will work.  gphoto2 seems to work with
> >>> that camera though.
> >>
> >> I believe that darktable 1.6.9 was the last release before the
> >> migration to GTK3.
> >>
> >> -R
> >> 
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Re: [darktable-user] Canon g7x mk ii - dark corners and incorrect focal length

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Now that's a good example of thread-hijacking :)

I believe the problem is a combination of gmail and mlmmj; also indicated
by the occasional mail from mlmmj saying that there were bounces but all is
abck to normal now: http://robbat2.livejournal.com/241253.html

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On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 7:59 AM, Michael  wrote:

> my client is gmail.
>
> On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Patrick Shanahan 
> wrote:
>
>> * Michael  [03-26-17 12:23]:
>> > I'm not getting all replies to the dt posts. I got the original
>> message, I
>> > replied, than I got Junkyard's reply to another post. You know the
>> reason
>> > for that? We neeed to put darktable forum's address > > lists.darktable.org> into the address field and most don't bother to do
>> > that. We need a better forum email program. My LUG's is pretty good.
>> > http://lurker.sourceforge.net/
>> >
>> > On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 9:41 AM,  wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Sun, Mar 26, 2017, at 06:03, Remco Viëtor wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > But, while the *camera* has been added to the Lensfun database, but
>> > > *lens* correction data
>> > > > aren't available (so far). You might try using the profiles for the
>> > > Canon g7x ('Mk I').
>> > >
>> > > Indeed, the camera has the same lens as the "Mark I", and the recently
>> > > added lensfun camera profile simply maps to the lens profile for that
>> > > camera. If the lensfun database updating options aren't working for
>> you,
>> > > try putting the attached profile into ~/.local/share/lensfun and
>> restarting
>> > > darktable.
>> > >
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Re: [darktable-user] Printing Problem Epson ABW Mode

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On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 8:22 AM, Jason Verlen  wrote:

>
> Want to thank everyone for pitching in.  I think it might be a good
> project for someone capable to write a new module for Darktable called
> “Print-Epson” which would automatically link to the Epson SDK’s etc in a
> manner similar to Lightroom.
>

I'm by no means a printer-module or CUPS expert, but this approach sounds
wrong. Instead the generic printer-module should be modified to probe
printer-specific options from CUPS and then create and populate drop-downs
based on that data. CUPS provides this information, it's up to the printing
application to make use of it. See e.g. by trying "lpoptions -l" in your
terminal. Depending on what printer you have installed in CUPS, you should
see a different list of options there; including EPSON-specific. Choosing
the correct options that way might even pop-up the EPSON dialog, who
knows...

But anyway, I guess the core darktable developers have no strong interest
in this and it's easy enough to print through other applications which
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Re: [darktable-user] Width of Drop-Downs in GUI buggy?

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Sorry, took a while to respond to this:

fwiw, I figured out that darktable runs under Wayland natively, not
XWayland. That seems to cause the issues. The solution is simple though:
Force it to use XWayland:

# GDK_BACKEND=x11 && darktable

And the drop-downs have the proper width.

Thx again, may darktable one day play nicely with the native Wayland :)

Hajo

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On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 11:44 PM, Dan Torop <d...@pnym.net> wrote:

> There's some other bad interactions on Wayland. Scrolling to move through
> images in lighttable mode doesn't work. Scrolling on the image in darkroom
> mode (almost always?) doesn't zoom the image. Keyboard input will be
> ignored from time to time (especially after a bit of interaction in
> darkroom mode), and it may take restarting darktable to make the UI notice
> keystrokes. The drop-downs, as Hajo writes, are consistently narrow. Hard
> to know if these are bugs or some sort of API change? Presumably Wayland is
> still settling, though in general it is now usable & even stable.
>
>
> HaJo Schatz <h...@hajo.net> writes:
>
> >> On 26 Feb 2017, at 21:37, Tobias Ellinghaus <m...@houz.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Am Samstag, 25. Februar 2017, 12:45:31 CET schrieb Roman Lebedev:
> >>> On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 7:58 AM, HaJo Schatz <h...@hajo.net> wrote:
> >>>> Hi group,
> >>>>
> >>>> I recently upgraded to F25 and with it to DT 2.2.3. Since then I have
> an
> >>>> issue that the drop-downs (GTK ComboBox?) isn't wide enough, see this:
> >>>> https://ibin.co/3DZa1O5OgUv6.png
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> There doesn't seem to be any way how this could be a dt bug,
> unfortunately.
> >>> It's likely a gtk bug.
> >>
> >> I wonder, are you using X11 or Wayland? If the latter, could you try
> with X11
> >> please?
> >
> > Good catch. The bug occurs on Wayland. On X11 the width is OK. But
> unfortunately X11 randomly crashes my system without producing useful log
> data. Well maybe I have to dig deeply into that issue then :(
> >
> >> Tobias
> >
> > Thx again,
> > Hajo
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[darktable-user] Width of Drop-Downs in GUI buggy?

[HaJo Schatz]

Hi group,

I recently upgraded to F25 and with it to DT 2.2.3. Since then I have an
issue that the drop-downs (GTK ComboBox?) isn't wide enough, see this:
https://ibin.co/3DZa1O5OgUv6.png

Is this my stupidity or should I file a bug?

Thx a lot,
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Re: [darktable-user] Dual monitor?

[HaJo Schatz]

Thank you all for your replies! A 15" laptop it is then with a larger external 
monitor. Now I'm only keeping my fingers crossed for dt to support both 
monitors (UI on one, photo on other) one day. But no big deal, I just get a 
larger monitor for the additionally required screen estate :)

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> On 10 Apr 2016, at 19:47, Tobias Ellinghaus <m...@houz.org> wrote:
> 
> Am Sonntag, 10. April 2016, 14:35:10 schrieb HaJo Schatz:
>> Hi group,
>> 
>> To my defense, I did try to Google - without finding any recent info... Does
>> Darktable nowadays support dual-monitors, with color-correction?
>> 
>> I'm about to buy a new laptop and am wondering whether I should rather get a
>> 17" display (Adobe-RGB ) model to do the editing there or invest in a more
>> portable 15" with simple display and have an external monitor for authentic
>> display. The latter seems an attractive option, but does darktable support
>> this?
> 
> Yes, darktable can be used on dual monitor setups with proper color 
> management 
> ( I do that myself, too). You probably want to run colord to have the system 
> be set up properly and use darktable-cmstest afterwards to check if it's ok.
> 
>> Thx a lot,
>> Hajo
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> Tobias


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[darktable-user] Dual monitor?

[HaJo Schatz]

Hi group,

To my defense, I did try to Google - without finding any recent info... Does 
Darktable nowadays support dual-monitors, with color-correction?

I'm about to buy a new laptop and am wondering whether I should rather get a 
17" display (Adobe-RGB ) model to do the editing there or invest in a more 
portable 15" with simple display and have an external monitor for authentic 
display. The latter seems an attractive option, but does darktable support this?

Thx a lot,
Hajo
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