Re: [darktable-user] specs
* Michael [02-27-24 22:18]: > Gimp and darktable will run nicely on 16GB ram? > nicely is a *very* relative turm, but yes, they will run usably, but the size of your files will affect speed speed. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] SegFault in 4.6.0 on opening a certain directory for import
* Uwe Falke [02-14-24 11:03]: > Hi, > I just saw that my message (cited below) got messed up (two copies of it > interleaved somehow) though I do hope the content and intention become clear > anyway. > I do clean up the doublettes in the copy attached below to make it better > readable. > I deliberately addressed the DT maintainers as that error appears very > particular hence other users might not be in the position to debug here. > However, if I need to follow another route or use other channels to report > such an issue, could you please tell me? > Sincerely > Uwe > issues should be reported to: https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/new?assignees==needs-triage==bug_report.yml Please follow the directions and answer questions that you can so those attempting to solve your problem have the necessary means. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] dt 4.6.0 filmstrip/thumbnails not updated
* MSt [01-07-24 09:17]: > On 02/01/2024 21:56, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * MSt [01-02-24 12:56]: > > > [ ... ] > > > My thumbnails (lighttable) and filmstrip images (darkroom) are not updated > > > properly. Not all of them, some are fine, but others are not updated after > > > applying modules, i.e. show the preview of the untouched picture. > > > > > > For an example, see the attached image. > [...] > > > > > > roll your own, good instruction exist > > > or > > > use distro packages > > > or > > > tell flatpak publisher the darktable FLATPACK package is broken > > Hi > > When I checked last time, OBS did not have a package for my Debian, that's > why I changed to flatpak. However, now there is a package for Debian 12 in > OBS, and I just switched to it. I copied library etc. from > ~/.var/app/org.darktable.Darktable/config/darktable to ~/.config/darktable. > > Unfortunately, this did not solve the problem. Exactly the same thing > happens. Any idea? sorry, I have no idea and have not noticed your issue. I suggest you file an issue at https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues after first searching for for a similar issue alread filed. I glanced thru the issues and did not see one similar to yours. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] RL_out_sharp.lua output file
* William Ferguson [01-05-24 16:40]: > On Fri, Jan 5, 2024 at 3:34 PM Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > * Patrick Shanahan [01-05-24 15:29]: > > > > > > any posibility of adding option to "RL_out_sharp.lua" for output file to > > > utilize the default darktable output file name or current variables? > > > > > > tks much for your contribution. > > > > and perhaps include exif data. > > > > It's in the works, https://github.com/darktable-org/lua-scripts/pull/412. > tks :) -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] RL_out_sharp.lua output file
* Patrick Shanahan [01-05-24 15:29]: > > any posibility of adding option to "RL_out_sharp.lua" for output file to > utilize the default darktable output file name or current variables? > > tks much for your contribution. and perhaps include exif data. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-user] RL_out_sharp.lua output file
any posibility of adding option to "RL_out_sharp.lua" for output file to utilize the default darktable output file name or current variables? tks much for your contribution. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] dt 4.6.0 filmstrip/thumbnails not updated
* MSt [01-02-24 12:56]: > Hi all > > As usual: Thanks for your continuous support of dt. However, I have an issue > with dt 4.6.0. > > Environment: Debian 12.4/xfce/Nvidia GTX1660/darktable 4.6.0 via > flatpak/opencl available and enabled > > My thumbnails (lighttable) and filmstrip images (darkroom) are not updated > properly. Not all of them, some are fine, but others are not updated after > applying modules, i.e. show the preview of the untouched picture. > > For an example, see the attached image. All images should have a white > frame, and when I work on them in the darkroom, they for sure have. But not > in the filmstrip. In this screenshot, the first three thumbnails are not > correct. The next two are. The current one, i.e. the one of the picture I'm > working on, is *always* correct, but (the "broken" ones -- not all) are back > to incorrect after switching to some other picture. > > This did not happen in previous versions of dt -- although with earlier > versions of the Nvidia drivers, so I'm not sure about the root cause. roll your own, good instruction exist or use distro packages or tell flatpak publisher the darktable FLATPACK package is broken -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] darktable 4.6.0 released
data fields unless the user selects all of the checkboxes in the
> >export module's preference options.
> >
> > - In order to support the correct display of numbers in darktable, the
> >minimum supported Gtk version has had to be increased to
> >3.24.15. For people who need to build darktable with an older
> >version, this can be achieved by removing line 241 of the
> >`darktable.css` file on your system. See
> >https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/13166.
> >
> > - Starting with release 4.4 a new support policy regarding macOS
> >versions has been put in place – darktable releases will now only
> >support those macOS versions that are also supported by Apple.
> >Release 4.6 therefore drops support for macOS versions older than
> >12.5.
> >
> > ## Changed Dependencies
> >
> > ### Mandatory
> >
> > - ???
> >
> > ### Optional
> >
> > - Bump libavif to 0.9.2
> >
> > ## RawSpeed changes
> >
> >
> > ## Camera support, compared to 4.4
> >
> > ### Base Support
> >
> > - Canon EOS Kiss F
> > - Canon EOS Kiss X50
> > - Canon EOS Kiss X90
> > - Canon IXY 220F (dng, chdk)
> > - Canon PowerShot SX220 HS (chdk)
> > - Fujifilm FinePix SL1000
> > - Fujifilm X-S20 (compressed)
> > - ImBack ImB35mm (chdk)
> > - Leica M10-D (dng)
> > - Leica M10-P (dng)
> > - Leica M10-R (dng)
> > - Leica M11-P (dng)
> > - Leica Q2 Monochrom (dng)
> > - Leica SL2 (dng)
> > - Leica SL2-S (dng)
> > - Nikon Coolpix A1000 (12bit-uncompressed)
> > - Nikon Z f (14bit-compressed)
> > - OM System TG-7
> > - Panasonic DC-TZ200D (3:2)
> > - Panasonic DC-TZ202D (3:2)
> > - Panasonic DC-TZ220 (3:2)
> > - Panasonic DC-TZ220D (3:2)
> > - Panasonic DC-ZS200D (3:2)
> > - Panasonic DC-ZS220 (3:2)
> > - Panasonic DC-ZS220D (3:2)
> > - Panasonic DMC-G10 (3:2, 16:9, 1:1)
> > - Panasonic DMC-GM1S (4:3, 3:2, 16:9, 1:1)
> > - Pentax K-3 Mark III Monochrome
> > - Pentax KF
> > - Samsung EK-GN120
> > - Samsung G920F (dng)
> > - Samsung G935F (dng)
> > - Samsung GX10 (dng)
> > - Samsung GX20 (dng)
> > - Sigma fp (dng)
> > - Sigma fp L (dng)
> > - Sigma sd Quattro (dng)
> > - Sigma sd Quattro H (dng)
> > - Sinar eVolution 75
> > - Sony ILCE-6700
> > - Sony ILCE-7CM2
> > - Sony ILCE-7CR
> > - Sony ILME-FX3
> > - Sony ZV-E1
> >
> > ### White Balance Presets
> >
> > - Leica M (Typ 240)
> > - Olympus E-P7
> > - Olympus TG-6
> > - Sony ILCE-7CM2
> >
> > ### Noise Profiles
> >
> > - Canon IXY 220F
> > - Nikon Z f
> > - Olympus E-P7
> > - Pentax *ist DS
> > - Sony ILCE-6700
> >
> > ### Missing Compression Mode Support
> >
> > - Apple ProRAW DNGs
> > - CinemaDNG lossless (Blackmagic, DJI, etc.)
> > - Fujifilm lossy RAFs
> > - Nikon high efficiency NEFs
> > - Samsung Expert RAW DNGs
> > - Sony downsized lossless ARWs ("M" for full-frame, "S" for full-frame
> > & APS-C)
> >
> > ### Suspended Support
> >
> > Support for the following cameras is suspended because no samples
> > are available on raw.pixls.us:
> >
> > - Creo/Leaf Aptus 22(LF3779)/Hasselblad H1
> > - Fujifilm FinePix S9600fd
> > - Fujifilm IS-1
> > - GoPro FUSION
> > - Kodak EasyShare Z980
> > - Leaf Aptus-II 5(LI300059)/Mamiya 645 AFD
> > - Leaf Credo 60
> > - Leaf Credo 80
> > - Minolta DiMAGE 5
> > - Olympus SP320
> > - Panasonic DMC-FX150
> > - Pentax Q10
> > - Phase One IQ250
> > - Sinar Hy6/ Sinarback eXact
> > - ST Micro STV680
> >
> > ## Translations
> >
> > - Albanian
> > - Brazilian Portuguese
> > - Chinese (Simplified)
> > - Chinese (Traditional)
> > - Czech
> > - Dutch
> > - European Spanish
> > - Finnish
> > - French
> > - German
> > - Hungarian
> > - Italian
> > - Japanese
> > - Polish
> > - Russian
> > - Slovenian
> > - Ukrainian
> >
>
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Re: [darktable-user] A different build error with 4.4.2 under Mint 21.2
* tony Hamilton [07-24-23 19:28]: > In a moment of irrationality I migrated my Mint install from 21.1 to 21.2 > about 15 hours ago - and quickly found that I no longer had any darktable. I > started to compile from 4.4.2 source, using the process which worked well a > day earlier. The number of compile errors - almost all missing dependencies > - was huge. There is one I cannot resolve; the error message states: > > "Make Error at cmake/modules/LibFindMacros.cmake:272 (message): > REQUIRED PACKAGE NOT FOUND > > We could not find development headers for Glib. Do you have the necessary > dev package installed? This package is REQUIRED and you need to install it > or adjust CMake configuration in order to continue building darktable. > > Relevant CMake configuration variables: > > Glib_INCLUDE_DIR= > GlibConfig_INCLUDE_DIR= > Glib_LIBRARY= > > You may use CMake GUI, cmake -D or ccmake to modify the values. Delete > CMakeCache.txt to discard all values and force full re-detection if > necessary. > > Call Stack (most recent call first): > cmake/modules/FindGlib.cmake:40 (libfind_process) > src/CMakeLists.txt:276 (find_package)" > > Synaptic cannot find a package called Gib or Glib-dev or their development > headers or any of these CMake configuration variables. How do I work around > this? Synaptic finds a large number of packages with names of the form > lib*glib-dev; are any of these relevant? Which ones? gee, you updated to a newer system version and your installed applications were not updated. that's a distro problem or a sysop who didn't properly update :( possibly bad search parameters. I have: glib2-devel glibc-devel but on openSUSE Tumbleweed but I searched "rpm -qa *devel* | grep -i glib" I cannot tell you the synaptic parameters. and you quite possibly will have more devel packages missing. you referred earlier to a command that updated/installed apps necessary for building. did you do that? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Build error with 4.4.2
* tony Hamilton [07-24-23 14:48]: > > > On 24/07/2023 09:26, Remco Viëtor wrote: > > On lundi 24 juillet 2023 10:01:59 CEST tony Hamilton wrote: > > (...) > > > Working in this mode of unbounded ignorance is not very satisfying, so I > > > would be grateful if you can direct me to the source of your > > > understanding about cmake expecting /usr/bin/c++ to be an alias of > > > /usr/bin/g++. That way I can understand better the reason for this > > > common compile failure. > > It's not so much that c++ needs to be an alias for g++, but that you have to > > tell cmake which version to use if that is different from the "system" > > version. On my system (OpenSUSe Leap 15.5), both /usr/bin/c++ and > > /usr/bin/g++ > > are symlinks to another file. Both link to version 7.x. > > So to get darktable to compile, I have to tell cmake to use a different > > version (which of course needs to be installed). > > > > To do that, there is the "export" command to set environment variables CC > > and > > CXX. The build script will use those two variables to decide which command > > to > > use for the C- and C++ compiler (resp.). > > > > For me, the following works (after removing o possible ./build dir): > > # export CC=gcc-12; export CXX=g++-12; ./build.sh > > > > That will build the program, but not install it. It tells you the command to > > install darktable (but you will have to precede that command with "sudo", as > > it needs to write to a system directory /opt > > > > Remco > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > This is commendably clear and most appreciated. Is it safe to remove the > /build directory in its entirety? yes. as a matter of fact, I have scripted my process and remove the ../darktable/build directory on successful build. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Build error with 4.4.2
* Remco Viëtor [07-24-23 09:39]: > On lundi 24 juillet 2023 15:02:24 CEST Patrick Shanahan wrote: > (...) > (concerning build instructions) > > the directions in dt's github repository are quite good. > > > However, what I did miss in them was how to tell the build system which > compiler to use. Not all distributions have the latest GCC as "standard" > version, even when it is available in their repositories. > Hence the need for something like: "export CC=gcc-12; export CXX=g++-12;". > > (Would this be something to include in the build instructions, or is it too > much "required knowledge" for those who insist on building from source?) it is not always necessary but when it is, it is. it would be a good addition to the github instructions, imnsho -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Build error with 4.4.2
* tony Hamilton [07-24-23 08:46]: > > > On 23/07/2023 17:07, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * tony Hamilton [07-23-23 10:40]: > > > > > > On 23/07/2023 14:28, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > * tony Hamilton [07-23-23 09:24]: > > > > > I'm trying to compile dt release 4.4.2, using the same process that > > > > > worked > > > > > for me with 4.4.1 a short time ago. I get this error: > > > > > > > > > > "-- The CXX compiler identification is unknown > > > > > CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:23 (project): > > > > > The CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER: > > > > > > > > > > /usr/bin/c++ > > > > > > > > > > is not a full path to an existing compiler tool. ... > Thanks for this further explanation. I notice that a number of people - > mostly a lot smarter than me at compiling dt - have stumbled across the > problem of the build process failing with a complaint that the version of > the GNU compiler that it finds (typically 11.xx) is too old: version 12.xx > is required. This problem foxed me for a while because Synaptic tells me > that I do have version 12 installed. The only way I found around it was to > delete the directory named 'build' before running the build.sh script. > Apparently this avoids the build process from being mislead by some setting > in a cmake cache somewhere - but since I don't know where that is, I just > delete the 'build' directory completely. I am definitely not any kind of expert, just experienced somewhat. the *first* correction I do if a build fails is to "rm -rf" the build directory. the second is to completely remove all of the dt git structure and clone it again. > Working in this mode of unbounded ignorance is not very satisfying, so I > would be grateful if you can direct me to the source of your understanding > about cmake expecting /usr/bin/c++ to be an alias of /usr/bin/g++. you told me :) "/usr/bin/c++ is not a full path ..." then I looked on my system, ls -la /usr/bin/c++ lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 Jun 14 11:13 /usr/bin/c++ -> g++-13* > That way I can understand better the reason for this common compile > failure. the directions in dt's github repository are quite good. good sailing ... -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Build error with 4.4.2
* tony Hamilton [07-23-23 11:35]: > > > On 23/07/2023 14:28, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * tony Hamilton [07-23-23 09:24]: > > > I'm trying to compile dt release 4.4.2, using the same process that worked > > > for me with 4.4.1 a short time ago. I get this error: > > > > > > "-- The CXX compiler identification is unknown > > > CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:23 (project): > > > The CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER: > > > > > > /usr/bin/c++ > > > > > > is not a full path to an existing compiler tool. > > > > > > Tell CMake where to find the compiler by setting either the environment > > > variable "CXX" or the CMake cache entry CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER to the full > > > path > > > to the compiler, or to the compiler name if it is in the PATH. > > > > > > > > > -- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred! > > > > > > I tried to check the entry in 'CMakeLists.txt' - but there are 88 such > > > files > > > listed in my 'darktable' directory. I have no idea which one to check. I > > > don't understand why this error occurs now, neither do I understand how to > > > fix it. Any advice, please? > > > > > > By the way, as part of preparing for this build I completely removed my > > > install of 4.4.1 from /opt/darktable, so now I don't have any way of using > > > darktable. > > 09:26 crash: ~ > l /usr/bin/c++ > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 Jun 14 11:13 /usr/bin/c++ -> g++-13* > > 09:27 crash: ~ > rpm -qf /usr/bin/c++ > > gcc-c++-13-1.3.x86_64 > > > > > > do you actually have gcc-c++ package installed. note you don't say what > > distro so package name may differ. I am on openSUSE Tumbleweed. > > > > > I found an effective solution: re-install build-essential > > 4.4.2 now compiled good for you. :) -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Build error with 4.4.2
* tony Hamilton [07-23-23 10:40]: > > > On 23/07/2023 14:28, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * tony Hamilton [07-23-23 09:24]: > > > I'm trying to compile dt release 4.4.2, using the same process that worked > > > for me with 4.4.1 a short time ago. I get this error: > > > > > > "-- The CXX compiler identification is unknown > > > CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:23 (project): > > > The CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER: > > > > > > /usr/bin/c++ > > > > > > is not a full path to an existing compiler tool. > > > > > > Tell CMake where to find the compiler by setting either the environment > > > variable "CXX" or the CMake cache entry CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER to the full > > > path > > > to the compiler, or to the compiler name if it is in the PATH. > > > > > > > > > -- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred! > > > > > > I tried to check the entry in 'CMakeLists.txt' - but there are 88 such > > > files > > > listed in my 'darktable' directory. I have no idea which one to check. I > > > don't understand why this error occurs now, neither do I understand how to > > > fix it. Any advice, please? > > > > > > By the way, as part of preparing for this build I completely removed my > > > install of 4.4.1 from /opt/darktable, so now I don't have any way of using > > > darktable. > > 09:26 crash: ~ > l /usr/bin/c++ > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 Jun 14 11:13 /usr/bin/c++ -> g++-13* > > 09:27 crash: ~ > rpm -qf /usr/bin/c++ > > gcc-c++-13-1.3.x86_64 > > > > > > do you actually have gcc-c++ package installed. note you don't say what > > distro so package name may differ. I am on openSUSE Tumbleweed. > > > > > Synaptic tells me that I have both versions 11 and 12 of the GNU C++ > compiler installed. Indeed, I don't understand how I could have compiled > 4.4.1 without these. But, amazingly, I appear not to have a directory > /usr/bin/C++ - how can this be ? > > Apologies about not identifying the distro: I'm on Mint 21.1, based on > Ubuntu 22.04 I know little to nothing about *butus/mint but apparently cmake expects /usr/bin/c++ to be an alias of /usr/bin/g++-(11 or 12) since you have 11 and 12 installed. replying on list -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Build error with 4.4.2
* tony Hamilton [07-23-23 10:59]: > > > On 23/07/2023 14:30, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * tony Hamilton [07-23-23 09:24]: > > > I'm trying to compile dt release 4.4.2, using the same process that worked > > > for me with 4.4.1 a short time ago. I get this error: > > > > > > "-- The CXX compiler identification is unknown > > > CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:23 (project): > > > The CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER: > > > > > > /usr/bin/c++ > > > > > > is not a full path to an existing compiler tool. > > > > > > Tell CMake where to find the compiler by setting either the environment > > > variable "CXX" or the CMake cache entry CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER to the full > > > path > > > to the compiler, or to the compiler name if it is in the PATH. > > > > > > > > > -- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred! > > > > > > I tried to check the entry in 'CMakeLists.txt' - but there are 88 such > > > files > > > listed in my 'darktable' directory. I have no idea which one to check. I > > > don't understand why this error occurs now, neither do I understand how to > > > fix it. Any advice, please? > > > > > > By the way, as part of preparing for this build I completely removed my > > > install of 4.4.1 from /opt/darktable, so now I don't have any way of using > > > darktable. > > next time consider "mv /opt/darktable /opt/dt441" > > so you have a recovery path. > > > > > What a splendid, and obvious, action. Why didn't I think of that? > (Rhetorical question, only, thanks!) you should reply to list post on the list rather than personally as others may be interested and/or have similar problem. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Build error with 4.4.2
* tony Hamilton [07-23-23 09:24]: > I'm trying to compile dt release 4.4.2, using the same process that worked > for me with 4.4.1 a short time ago. I get this error: > > "-- The CXX compiler identification is unknown > CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:23 (project): > The CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER: > > /usr/bin/c++ > > is not a full path to an existing compiler tool. > > Tell CMake where to find the compiler by setting either the environment > variable "CXX" or the CMake cache entry CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER to the full > path > to the compiler, or to the compiler name if it is in the PATH. > > > -- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred! > > I tried to check the entry in 'CMakeLists.txt' - but there are 88 such files > listed in my 'darktable' directory. I have no idea which one to check. I > don't understand why this error occurs now, neither do I understand how to > fix it. Any advice, please? > > By the way, as part of preparing for this build I completely removed my > install of 4.4.1 from /opt/darktable, so now I don't have any way of using > darktable. next time consider "mv /opt/darktable /opt/dt441" so you have a recovery path. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Build error with 4.4.2
* tony Hamilton [07-23-23 09:24]: > I'm trying to compile dt release 4.4.2, using the same process that worked > for me with 4.4.1 a short time ago. I get this error: > > "-- The CXX compiler identification is unknown > CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:23 (project): > The CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER: > > /usr/bin/c++ > > is not a full path to an existing compiler tool. > > Tell CMake where to find the compiler by setting either the environment > variable "CXX" or the CMake cache entry CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER to the full > path > to the compiler, or to the compiler name if it is in the PATH. > > > -- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred! > > I tried to check the entry in 'CMakeLists.txt' - but there are 88 such files > listed in my 'darktable' directory. I have no idea which one to check. I > don't understand why this error occurs now, neither do I understand how to > fix it. Any advice, please? > > By the way, as part of preparing for this build I completely removed my > install of 4.4.1 from /opt/darktable, so now I don't have any way of using > darktable. 09:26 crash: ~ > l /usr/bin/c++ lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 Jun 14 11:13 /usr/bin/c++ -> g++-13* 09:27 crash: ~ > rpm -qf /usr/bin/c++ gcc-c++-13-1.3.x86_64 do you actually have gcc-c++ package installed. note you don't say what distro so package name may differ. I am on openSUSE Tumbleweed. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] DT 4.4.1 split colors in Lighttable
* GianLuca Sarto [07-21-23 08:54]: > Hello All, > > I run DT4.4.1 on Ubuntu 22.04 with Nvidia card and driver 525. > > Recently when I edit some pictures, the preview is splitted in colors. > > I enclose a screenshot. > > Is this a system problem, or is it DT? with information provided guessing bad copy, appears corrupted image can you provide access to image? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] DT 4.4.1 xmp madness
* GianLuca Sarto [07-17-23 15:11]: > Guillermo, > > thanks for replying. > > Yes that option is flagged, but you see, the problem is at the notebook > because the XMP has no trace of my edits. > > They must be in the db, but they are not copied to the XMP. > > On 17/07/23 20:55, Guillermo Rozas wrote: > > Did you reload the xmp file on the WS after copying it? Do you have the > > option to look for changes on the sidecar files activated? > > > > Bees regards, > > Guillermo > > > > On Mon, Jul 17, 2023, 15:49 GianLuca Sarto wrote: > > > > Hello All, > > > > I am investigating why XMP files copied on another system do not show > > the same edits, and I found this. > > > > First, one notebook and one workstation, both running Ubuntu 22.04 > > and > > DT 4.4.1. > > > > On the notebook, I did some preliminary edits, and flagged a file > > with 3 > > stars. > > > > Filtering for 3 stars show me the file, and all the edits I did. > > > > Copy the XMP on the WS, it is only one star, looks like never edited. > > > > I go back to the notebook, cat the XMP, and lo and behold! > > > > It is almost empty and show rated=1. > > > > What's on?! > > > > Thanks for reading, > > > > -GianLuca > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > <mailto:darktable-user%2bunsubscr...@lists.darktable.org> > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > ________ > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org try importing the files where you changed the xmp files it is not "madness" but does require learning and understanding. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 4.4 on Ubuntu 22.04
* Niranjan Rao [07-03-23 21:53]: > Greetings, > > > It's not clear to me if latest release of darktable is supported on 22.04. > Opensuse OBS repository shows darktable 4.4 only for 23.04. Is it supported > on Ubuntu 22.04? don't really know but would bet it is. a simple proof would be to try it. warning, backup your library.db before trying as I believe 4.41 library is not backward compatible with 4.40. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-user] POSSIBLY SOLVED: libicui18n.so.72 requirement
* Patrick Shanahan [06-07-23 09:34]: > * Michael Staats [06-07-23 01:06]: > > On 07/06/2023 01:02, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > * Manuel Presnitz [06-06-23 14:14]: > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > all of my systems have libicui18n.so.73 and can run dt, except > > > > > > > this one. > > > > > > > all are very similarly configured. all of my different box > > > > > > > compiles are > > > > > > > identical. > > > > > > Hmm, ok, cannot help with the root cause, no idea what's exactly > > different on your machines. > > > > But a quick and dirty hack is of course: > > > > cd /lib64 && ln -s libicui18n.so.73 libicui18n.so.72 > > > > I'd not do that if I had to guarantee any SLA or so, but I'd say the > > risk is very low. a) The library is most certainly not used for any core > > functionality of dt, b) usually, a change between a "73" and "72" > > version does not introduce any incompatibility. The 73 might have some > > improvements, fixes, new functionality, but it should not break any 72 > > functionality -- only guessing, of course. > > > > If this was my machine, and I'd just need to get it working, I'd do that. > > tks, I didn't mention that I tried that unsuccessfully but have located > a copy of libicu72-72.1-186.13.x86_64.rpm and installing that alongside > libicu73 allows dt to work and I have seen no side-effects yet. > > fingers crossed :) dt running w/o libicu72. possible problem was version of exiv2 0.28.0. reverted to 0.27.6 -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Re[2]: libicui18n.so.72 requirement
* Michael Staats [06-07-23 01:06]: > On 07/06/2023 01:02, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * Manuel Presnitz [06-06-23 14:14]: > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > all of my systems have libicui18n.so.73 and can run dt, except this > > > > > > one. > > > > > > all are very similarly configured. all of my different box > > > > > > compiles are > > > > > > identical. > > > Hmm, ok, cannot help with the root cause, no idea what's exactly > different on your machines. > > But a quick and dirty hack is of course: > > cd /lib64 && ln -s libicui18n.so.73 libicui18n.so.72 > > I'd not do that if I had to guarantee any SLA or so, but I'd say the > risk is very low. a) The library is most certainly not used for any core > functionality of dt, b) usually, a change between a "73" and "72" > version does not introduce any incompatibility. The 73 might have some > improvements, fixes, new functionality, but it should not break any 72 > functionality -- only guessing, of course. > > If this was my machine, and I'd just need to get it working, I'd do that. tks, I didn't mention that I tried that unsuccessfully but have located a copy of libicu72-72.1-186.13.x86_64.rpm and installing that alongside libicu73 allows dt to work and I have seen no side-effects yet. fingers crossed :) -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Re[2]: libicui18n.so.72 requirement
* Manuel Presnitz [06-06-23 14:14]: > Hello, > > > > > all of my systems have libicui18n.so.73 and can run dt, except this one. > > > > all are very similarly configured. all of my different box compiles are > > > > identical. > > I don't know how you compile dt exactly, I use the shipped build.sh script. > Once in a while I do get errors regarding library versions but it usually > helps > to build from scratch, i.e. delete the old "build" directory: > > rm -r ./build > /build.sh --your-options > > So far I don't have problems with libicui18n.so but Arch Linux hasn't updated > from version 72 to 73, yet. my other four boxes also have libicui18n.so.73 and dt runs. I did rm the entire build system and git clone and a new build, but still the same err msg. :( tks, -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] libicui18n.so.72 requirement
* Michael Staats [06-06-23 12:00]: > On 06/06/2023 02:27, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > I have several openSUSE Tumbleweed boxes where I compile darktable and can > > successfully run except one which notes it is unable to access shared > > library libicui18n.so.72 > > > > all of my systems have libicui18n.so.73 and can run dt, except this one. > > all are very similarly configured. all of my different box compiles are > > identical. > > > > what am I missing? > > Hi Patrick > Sorry for recommending something obvious, I know that you probably know > that already, but sometimes, one is missing the obvious... > > - ldd $(which darktable) all other systems report: libicui18n.so.73 => /lib64/libicui18n.so.73 (0x7f7e4f00 subject system reports: libicui18n.so.73 => /lib64/libicui18n.so.73 (0x7f0db320) libicui18n.so.72 => not found > - check permissions on your libicui18n.so.72 all systems have *only: libicui18n.so.73 > - check if links from libicui18n.so are pointing to libicui18n.so.72 (on there is no libicui18n.so.72 > my debian, they are in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu /usr/lib64/libicui18n.so.73 > - maybe just run ldconfig no change > - check if you have set LD_LIBRARY_PATH I do not on any box. tks, -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-user] libicui18n.so.72 requirement
I have several openSUSE Tumbleweed boxes where I compile darktable and can successfully run except one which notes it is unable to access shared library libicui18n.so.72 all of my systems have libicui18n.so.73 and can run dt, except this one. all are very similarly configured. all of my different box compiles are identical. what am I missing? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Unusual filmstrip loading problem
* David Vincent-Jones [05-17-23 16:29]: > Patrick > > I truly doubt that this is a dt bug. It is far more likely that somehow I > have created a problem in one of my sidecar files. For that reason I do not > feel that I should waste the time of developers at this moment. > > I hoped that somebody could advise me of an appropriate way to 'fix' the > situation. > > Your response was not, unfortunately, helpful. > > David > > On 5/17/23 12:53, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * David Vincent-Jones [05-17-23 14:57]: > > > Manjaro/Arch/XFCE/Daily-git. > > > > > > I chanced to try and open an older (2021) filmstrip and found that my > > > system > > > stalled during the loading time and then crashed. I am not having problems > > > with other filmstrips. > > > > > > When I open the folder everything appears to be normal except that it does > > > have a mixture of RAF and DNG files. > > > > > > The following is the pre crash data from a 'darktable -d all', which I > > > tried > > > to try and find the cause ... can anyb0ody suggest a solution. Should I > > > for > > > instance simply remove the folder and rebuild it? > > > > > > There is nothing of great importance on the roll, so one solution may be > > > for > > > me to trash the sidefiles from the file manager ... would this be a > > > problem > > > for the db? have you tried any the of the options you proposed? have you checked to see that your db is not corrupted? no one else can answer these questions you presented yourself and would be "wasting their time" endeavouring to do so. and you do know that older versions of dt probably would not be compatible with your current library? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Unusual filmstrip loading problem
* David Vincent-Jones [05-17-23 14:57]: > Manjaro/Arch/XFCE/Daily-git. > > I chanced to try and open an older (2021) filmstrip and found that my system > stalled during the loading time and then crashed. I am not having problems > with other filmstrips. > > When I open the folder everything appears to be normal except that it does > have a mixture of RAF and DNG files. > > The following is the pre crash data from a 'darktable -d all', which I tried > to try and find the cause ... can anyb0ody suggest a solution. Should I for > instance simply remove the folder and rebuild it? > > There is nothing of great importance on the roll, so one solution may be for > me to trash the sidefiles from the file manager ... would this be a problem > for the db? > > Terminal info: > > 35.6518 [pixelpipe_process_on_CPU] [thumbnail] diffuse or > sharpen ( 0/ 0) 168x 225 scale=0.0693 --> ( 0/ 0) 168x 225 > scale=0.0693 > 35.6558 [blend with form on CPU] [thumbnail] diffuse or > sharpen ( 0/ 0) 168x 225 scale=0.0693 --> ( 0/ 0) 168x 225 > scale=0.0693 > 35.6559 [refine_detail_mask on CPU] [thumbnail] diffuse or > sharpen ( 0/ 0) 168x 225 scale=0.0693 --> ( 0/ 0) 168x 225 > scale=0.0693 > 35.6596 [opencl memory] device 0: 82300740 bytes (78.5 MB) in use > 35.6599 [opencl memory] device 0: 43152072 bytes (41.2 MB) in use > 35.6602 [opencl memory] device 0: 4003404 bytes (3.8 MB) in use > 35.6604 [distort detail mask] [thumbnail] diffuse or > sharpen (3636/2764) 3637x2691 scale=1. > 35.6617 [lighttable] expose took 0. sec > 35.6620 [add_job] 12 | 35.6620 load image 34782 mip 1 | queue: 1 | > priority: 0 35.6620 > 35.6621 [add_job] found job already in queue: 35.6621 load image > 34782 mip 1 | queue: 1 | priority: 4 35.6621 > Segmentation fault (core dumped) > [david@david-W530 ~]$ no one will benefit from your discovered problems unless you file a bug report with the requested information. the developers look at the bug report but I doubt few have time to commit to reading the "discussion" list. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] darktable-users list, fewer postings?
* Michael Staats [04-25-23 00:28]: ... > > (And, by the way, Patrick's excessive full quotes on top with one > sentence on the bottom are also not helpful, and not the idea of > "proper" quoting). > that is understood and not normal, but continually "cleaning up other's messes" becomes rather laborious. best to just drop it all. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] darktable-users list, fewer postings?
* Terry Pinfold [04-23-23 20:23]: > Yes, incorrectly posting to the top or the bottom of the list is a pretty > unforgivable sin. I just post the way Microsoft has designed it and that is > how everyone posts at my University. But for some reason you have set a > standard that is different from mainstream. So you have chased me away. You > achieved what you wanted. I must have been a huge pain in your butt. > > On Mon, 24 Apr 2023 at 09:24, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > * Terry Pinfold [04-23-23 18:23]: > > > Totally agree with you Patrick. My email server posted incorrectly for > > this > > > list and it caused great offence to people here so I moved on to a forum > > > where I was more welcomed. > > > Have a nice day and keep up the good work supporting DT users. > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 24 Apr 2023 at 08:16, Patrick Shanahan > > wrote: > > > > > > > * Terry Pinfold [04-23-23 17:49]: > > > > > On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 at 21:03, Peter McD wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Am 23.04.23 um 12:29 schrieb Michael Below: > > > > > > > Am Sonntag, dem 23.04.2023 um 12:21 +0200 schrieb Peter McD: > > > > > > >> So where are the postings of other users? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many people moved to the pixls.us forum: > > > > > > > https://discuss.pixls.us/c/software/darktable/19 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > > > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Peter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > I stopped posting to this list because people complained about my > > posts > > > > > being top posting or bottom posting or something else which I found > > very > > > > > petty. They also complained if I forgot to remove my email > > signature. So > > > > if > > > > > I was going to have problems meeting their "net etiquette" I would > > move > > > > > onto another forum which is pixels.us. I have found the pixls.us > > forum > > > > much > > > > > more friendly and tolerant. > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes, much easier to change horses than to attempt to follow accepted > > > > standards. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA > > @ptilopteri > > > > http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Member > > facebook/ptilopteri > > > > Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet > > oftc > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > and you do not hold your students to any standards? > > > > -- > > (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri > > http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri > > Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > -- > m$ was late to the email game and went their own way rather than follow established ways. that you follow m$ *only* shows your age, not your wisdom. I have not "chased" you anywhere. You make your own decisions and you do you best to make that known. hope you the best in your future endeavours. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] darktable-users list, fewer postings?
* Juan Navarro [04-23-23 19:46]: > Styles and preferences is not the same as standards. > > On Sun, Apr 23, 2023, 16:23 Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > * Terry Pinfold [04-23-23 18:23]: > > > Totally agree with you Patrick. My email server posted incorrectly for > > this > > > list and it caused great offence to people here so I moved on to a forum > > > where I was more welcomed. > > > Have a nice day and keep up the good work supporting DT users. > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 24 Apr 2023 at 08:16, Patrick Shanahan > > wrote: > > > > > > > * Terry Pinfold [04-23-23 17:49]: > > > > > On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 at 21:03, Peter McD wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Am 23.04.23 um 12:29 schrieb Michael Below: > > > > > > > Am Sonntag, dem 23.04.2023 um 12:21 +0200 schrieb Peter McD: > > > > > > >> So where are the postings of other users? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many people moved to the pixls.us forum: > > > > > > > https://discuss.pixls.us/c/software/darktable/19 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > > > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Peter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > I stopped posting to this list because people complained about my > > posts > > > > > being top posting or bottom posting or something else which I found > > very > > > > > petty. They also complained if I forgot to remove my email > > signature. So > > > > if > > > > > I was going to have problems meeting their "net etiquette" I would > > move > > > > > onto another forum which is pixels.us. I have found the pixls.us > > forum > > > > much > > > > > more friendly and tolerant. > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes, much easier to change horses than to attempt to follow accepted > > > > standards. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA > > @ptilopteri > > > > http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Member > > facebook/ptilopteri > > > > Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet > > oftc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > and you do not hold your students to any standards? > > > > -- > > (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri > > http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri > > Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > and there is no netiquette. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] darktable-users list, fewer postings?
* Terry Pinfold [04-23-23 18:23]: > Totally agree with you Patrick. My email server posted incorrectly for this > list and it caused great offence to people here so I moved on to a forum > where I was more welcomed. > Have a nice day and keep up the good work supporting DT users. > > > On Mon, 24 Apr 2023 at 08:16, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > * Terry Pinfold [04-23-23 17:49]: > > > On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 at 21:03, Peter McD wrote: > > > > > > > Am 23.04.23 um 12:29 schrieb Michael Below: > > > > > Am Sonntag, dem 23.04.2023 um 12:21 +0200 schrieb Peter McD: > > > > >> So where are the postings of other users? > > > > > > > > > > Many people moved to the pixls.us forum: > > > > > https://discuss.pixls.us/c/software/darktable/19 > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Peter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > I stopped posting to this list because people complained about my posts > > > being top posting or bottom posting or something else which I found very > > > petty. They also complained if I forgot to remove my email signature. So > > if > > > I was going to have problems meeting their "net etiquette" I would move > > > onto another forum which is pixels.us. I have found the pixls.us forum > > much > > > more friendly and tolerant. > > > > > > > yes, much easier to change horses than to attempt to follow accepted > > standards. > > > > -- > > (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri > > http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri > > Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > -- > and you do not hold your students to any standards? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] darktable-users list, fewer postings?
* Terry Pinfold [04-23-23 17:49]: > On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 at 21:03, Peter McD wrote: > > > Am 23.04.23 um 12:29 schrieb Michael Below: > > > Am Sonntag, dem 23.04.2023 um 12:21 +0200 schrieb Peter McD: > > >> So where are the postings of other users? > > > > > > Many people moved to the pixls.us forum: > > > https://discuss.pixls.us/c/software/darktable/19 > > > > > > Cheers > > > Michael > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > Thanks > > Peter > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > -- > I stopped posting to this list because people complained about my posts > being top posting or bottom posting or something else which I found very > petty. They also complained if I forgot to remove my email signature. So if > I was going to have problems meeting their "net etiquette" I would move > onto another forum which is pixels.us. I have found the pixls.us forum much > more friendly and tolerant. > yes, much easier to change horses than to attempt to follow accepted standards. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] error building master since 4.3.0+1632~g7a3c976cff
* Patrick Shanahan [04-09-23 13:06]: > * Pascal Obry [04-09-23 12:47]: > > Le dimanche 09 avril 2023 à 12:41 -0400, Patrick Shanahan a écrit : > > > > > > > > > and I cleaned and recloned to no avail. > > > > Expected, see: > > > > https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/14057 > > > > Nothing we can do at this point. > > tks, understand so using clang, export CC=clang CXX=clang++ build.sh -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] error building master since 4.3.0+1632~g7a3c976cff
* Pascal Obry [04-09-23 12:47]: > Le dimanche 09 avril 2023 à 12:41 -0400, Patrick Shanahan a écrit : > > > > > > and I cleaned and recloned to no avail. > > Expected, see: > > https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/14057 > > Nothing we can do at this point. tks, understand -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] error building master since 4.3.0+1632~g7a3c976cff
* Patrick Shanahan [04-09-23 12:39]: > getting following error: > > /build/darktable/build/lib64/darktable/plugins/introspection_colorchecker.c:47: > /build/darktable/src/iop/colorchecker.c: In function ‘commit_params’: > /data1/software/build/darktable/src/iop/colorchecker.c:723:35: error: > ‘__builtin_memset’ writing 32 bytes into a region of size 0 overflows the > destination [-Werror=stringop-overflow=] > 723 | for(int i=N;i | ~^~~ > compilation terminated due to -Wfatal-errors. > > and I cleaned and recloned to no avail. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-user] error building master since 4.3.0+1632~g7a3c976cff
getting following error: /build/darktable/build/lib64/darktable/plugins/introspection_colorchecker.c:47: /build/darktable/src/iop/colorchecker.c: In function ‘commit_params’: /data1/software/build/darktable/src/iop/colorchecker.c:723:35: error: ‘__builtin_memset’ writing 32 bytes into a region of size 0 overflows the destination [-Werror=stringop-overflow=] 723 | for(int i=N;ihttp://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Add a module to be on by default howto?
* Thomas Schweikle [03-14-23 11:20]: > How can I add a module to darktable to be on by default? have you looked at presets? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] darktable 4.2.1 released
* Remco Viëtor [02-26-23 08:25]: > On dimanche 26 février 2023 13:04:39 CET tony Hamilton wrote: > (...) > > The whole process is most unsatisfactory. It can best be described > > through an analogy: it was what I expect would be the experience of a > > blind person driving a busload of passengers along the narrow track a > > couple of hundred metres up in the gorge of the Jinshan River near Hu > > tiao xia in Yunnan Province - with verbal instructions (in local Yunnan > > dialect) being given by a highly experienced master co-driver who was > > having his lunch at the same time. 'Ah, yes, I should have warned you > > about that fragile part of the track before you drove into it - it's > > just that I don't have to think about it now after so many trips. Not to > > worry; only 95% fatalities. We have enough salvageable bits to rebuild > > the bus'. > > No need to be overly dramatic, if you can't get your head around the > compilation process, there will be ready-made packages available. > > Just not necessarily the day (or week) a new version is announced, the > packagers are volunteers with other demands on their time. > > But if you do not want to wait, you'll have to *learn* how to compile from > source. Yes, that process takes time, the first time around. No, there are no > shortcuts, complaining it's too complicated doesn't help (if anything, it > will > get you *less* help). to add, it is also necessary to satisfy the desire you have expressed unless you can convince someone to volunteer their time and efforts to provide something you do not want to do yourself. you have the answer to your desires and it requires your efforts. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] darktable 4.2.1 released
* tony Hamilton [02-26-23 08:22]: > Thanks for the suggestions. > > With respect, your observation is clearly easy for you to say, but (and I > have a LOT of experience on this) not so easy for me to do. The explanation > (aside from the opinion oft expressed by others that I'm chronically, > endemically and terminally stupid) is indeed simple: those who write the > instructions on how to compile have to write for a general audience and so > make assumptions - sadly often wrong - about my computing environment and my > ability to comprehend those instructions. The latter factor reflects the > fact that they are written by obviously technically competent authors who > are also subject matter experts (but not necessarily writers), writing for > people like themselves - who, by very definition, do not need such > instructions. Those instructions are, in consequence, usually inaccessible > and inapplicable to people like myself. > > A significant part of the compile process is the handling of compilation > errors; here the documentation is frequently inadequate, depending on a > level of detailed knowledge and understanding which is beyond the average > Linux application user. They are typified by impossible to parse scenarios > which have an explanation of the nature of: "Oh, didn't we tell you about > dependencies abc, hij, opq (which is incompatible with def, as long as you > have, or, possibly, have not, included rst) and xyz (but not in version > 2.99)? Sorry about that." > > Oh, maybe I'm just too old and lacking a sense of humour > > On 25/02/2023 15:19, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > really building is simple and instructions are provided on github. > when I get err's compiling, I can go to pixls.us or here to request help and usually that help is very quickly provided. I am definitely no compiler wizard, do not understand most errors and at > 80 years maybe a little slow. do not erect walls that are not needed. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] darktable 4.2.1 released
ges without embedded color > >profile data. > > > > - Fix snapshot invalidation, which was too pessimistic and made > >switching snapshots slow. > > > > - Fix some messages in LUT module. > > > > ## Lua > > > > - N/A > > > > ## Notes > > > > - N/A > > > > ## Changed Dependencies > > > > - Update bundled LibRaw version to 0.21.1. > > > >For systems providing LibRaw 0.21.1 or newer, it is now possible to > >disable building the bundled copy by defining > >-DDONT\_USE\_INTERNAL\_LIBRAW=ON > > > > ### Mandatory > > > > - Bump minimum required CMake version from 3.10 to 3.18. > > > > ### Optional > > > > - Bump libheif minimum required version from 1.9.0 to 1.13.0. > > > > - Relax libavif minimum required version from 0.9.1 back to 0.8.2. > > > > ## RawSpeed changes > > > > - Massive Fuji decompressor refactoring, up to -25% less wall time > > - Fuji GFX100(S): fix 16-bit sensor black/white levels > > - Fix decoding of compressed Fuji raws with large filesize > > > > ## Camera support, compared to 4.2.0 > > > > ### Base Support > > > > - Canon EOS Kiss X10 > > - Canon EOS Kiss X10i > > - Leica M9 (dng) > > - Nikon Z 30 (12bit-compressed, 14bit-compressed) > > - OM System OM-1 > > - OM System OM-5 > > - Panasonic DC-G95D (4:3) > > - Panasonic DC-G99D (4:3) > > - Ricoh GR IIIx (dng) > > > > ### Missing Compression Mode Support > > > > - Fujifilm "non-lossless"/lossy > > - Nikon high efficiency > > - Sony lossless > > > > ### White Balance Presets > > > > - Nikon Z 9 > > > > ### Noise Profiles > > > > - Fujifilm GFX100S > > - Fujifilm X-H2 > > - Fujifilm X-H2S > > - OM System OM-1 > > - Sony ILCE-7SM3 > > - Canon EOS 250D / Kiss X10 / Rebel SL3 / 200D Mark II > > - Canon EOS R7 > > > > ### Suspended Support > > > > No samples on raw.pixls.us > > > > - Creo/Leaf Aptus 22(LF3779)/Hasselblad H1 > > - Fujifilm FinePix S9600fd > > - Fujifilm IS-1 > > - GoPro FUSION > > - Kodak EasyShare Z980 > > - Leaf Aptus-II 5(LI300059)/Mamiya 645 AFD > > - Leaf Credo 60 > > - Leaf Credo 80 > > - Minolta DiMAGE 5 > > - Olympus SP320 > > - Panasonic DMC-FX150 > > - Pentax Q10 > > - Phase One IQ250 > > - Samsung GX10 > > - Samsung GX20 > > - Samsung EK-GN120 > > - Samsung SM-G920F > > - Samsung SM-G935F > > - Sinar Hy6/ Sinarback eXact > > - ST Micro STV680 > > > > ## Translations > > > > - German > > - European Spanish > > - Finnish > > - French > > - Hungarian > > - Italian > > - Japanese > > - Dutch > > - Polish > > - Brazilian Portuguese > > - Russian > > - Slovenian > > - Albanian > > - Turkish (New) > > - Ukrainian > > - Chinese - Taiwan > > > > > you need to ask the Ubuntu packagers to prepare that package for you or use google or run a flatpack or AppImage really building is simple and instructions are provided on github. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Limited ability to browse collections
* Steven Fosdick [02-24-23 11:36]: > I tried using darktable today and found I can only find some of my images > by browsing in the collections control. Browsing by tag had some tags > missing. Switching to browsing by capture date again had dates missing, > though this time the ones that are there are a range and it is the older > dates that are missing. > > Taking the capture date in more detail, my collection includes images from > 2005 through to 2023 but when I pick collections and then expand capture > date I get a choice of 2023 going back to 2014 but no older. > > As far as I can tell the images are still in the database. > > Also, does anyone know how the date/time values are stored in the > database. The database column is of type number but the number does not > appear to be time since the Unix epoch in either ms or ns. > > This is using 4.2.1, though 4.2.0 also behaves the same. your could browse the library.db. I use sqlitebrowser, but there are other ways. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] missing database
* Jan Minekus [02-12-23 09:02]: > Hello, > > I try to install darktable again in my freshly installed computer. > Problem is the standard database is missing. Local directory does not have a > darktable directory which I can overwrite with a backup. > I tried to start darktable without the database but that window is rubbish. > What is wrong? > What can I do?? what operating system? on linux you can copy your backup library.db to ~/.config/darktable/ I am guessing windows and I can offer you no help there. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Disaster with history stack
* David Vincent-Jones [02-05-23 21:53]: > I am finding that the history>copy/paste functions are causing dt to shut > down on the most recent linux/git. > > I may well simply rebuild the .db to avoid further complications, hopefully > that will help. > > On 2/2/23 22:10, Andrew Greig wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I found that the information I received from Patrick Shannahan really > > useful so I loaded a couple of processes in Darktable and acted as a > > taxi for my mother in law, did some shopping had coffee and the results > > were waiting for me when I arrived home. This will be useful for the > > times when I am working late, I can set the tasks running and head to > > bed. Everything will be in place in the morning. > > > > The disaster above was caused by using the history stack to apply > > certain modules in the Light-table, I inadvertently blitzed the whole > > history stack for the complete set of images. Is there any way to > > reverse that, or do I need to wipe all of the sidecar files and > > re-import the RAW files? > > > > Many thanks > > you are addressing a different issue, which has been discussed here! -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Stacking jobs in export
* Patrick Shanahan [02-02-23 21:22]: > * Andrew Greig [02-02-23 21:14]: > > Hi All, > > > > I have read the Fine Manual on export features but I have been unable to > > discover whether I can stack up export jobs and whether I can continue to > > work while export runs. > > I have but may really bog down your thru-put unless you have a quite > powerful workstation, gpu and cpu. > > > At the moment I am setting up an Export process and then waiting until it > > concludes before making changes for an export in a different resolution; or > > with a watermark, and I need another run without the watermark but with a > > higher resolution. > > > > And another one could be where I select images based on rating, for example > > 4stars = Instagram friendly > > > > Another could be selecting 5 stars at Full Size jpg for Model Society > > > > So when one process finishes the next starts without being messed with by > > the other tasks. ps: you can effect your own confirmation merely by trying. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Stacking jobs in export
* Andrew Greig [02-02-23 21:14]: > Hi All, > > I have read the Fine Manual on export features but I have been unable to > discover whether I can stack up export jobs and whether I can continue to > work while export runs. I have but may really bog down your thru-put unless you have a quite powerful workstation, gpu and cpu. > At the moment I am setting up an Export process and then waiting until it > concludes before making changes for an export in a different resolution; or > with a watermark, and I need another run without the watermark but with a > higher resolution. > > And another one could be where I select images based on rating, for example > 4stars = Instagram friendly > > Another could be selecting 5 stars at Full Size jpg for Model Society > > So when one process finishes the next starts without being messed with by > the other tasks. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] How to repair file path
* Hieke van Hoogdalem [01-16-23 16:47]: > Of course having the side car files at the same location is the best option > That was the case and I never changed it. I don't know why I can't see them. > Will try (tomorrow or so) entering the string you gave me in the search box. > > Hartelijke groet, > Hieke van Hoogdalem > > Op 16-01-2023 21:30 heeft Patrick Shanahan geschreven: > > * Hieke van Hoogdalem [01-16-23 15:13]: > > Hi Patrick, > > > > Thanks again. I'm not sure what you mean by 'you do know how to list > dotted files, ls -la ???'. Can you explain? > > > > Hartelijke groet, > > Hieke van Hoogdalem > > > > Op 16-01-2023 20:42 heeft Patrick Shanahan > geschreven: > > > > * Hieke van Hoogdalem [01-16-23 > 14:38]: > > > Hi! There were no xmp files in the folder, strangely enough. But > I moved the complete folder. So it those are hidden files, they were > relocated too. > > > > > > Hartelijke groet, > > > Hieke van Hoogdalem > > > > > > Op 16-01-2023 20:35 heeft Patrick Shanahan > geschreven: > > > > > > * Hieke van Hoogdalem > [01-16-23 10:23]: > > > > When I rightclick, I see these options (see attachement) > and when I click on 'search filmroll...' nothing happens. I tried several > times. > > > > > > > > What can I do to make it work? > > > > > > > > I can also, like Marco suggested, remove the skulls and > thumbnails from the library and add the folder from the new location. But > what happens with the edits? I don't see a sidecar file in the folders on my > harddisk and I don't want to loose all the work already done to those > pictures. > > > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Hieke van Hoogdalem > > > > > > > > Op 15-01-2023 17:45 heeft Bernhard > geschreven: > > > > > > > > Just do this > > > > > https://docs.darktable.org/usermanual/4.0/en/module-reference/utility-modules/shared/collections/#updating-the-folder-path-of-moved-images > > > > > > > > Marco DE BOOIJ schrieb am 15.01.23 um 17:07: > > > > > I suppose that you did not move them with darktable? > You must remove those 'skulls' and thumbnails from the library and then add > the folders that you moved from the new location. It is always better to use > the move option from within darktable. > > > > > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > > > > > Marco > > > > > > > > > > Op 15/01/2023 om 16:51 schreef Hieke van Hoogdalem: > > > > >> > > > > >> Hi all, > > > > >> > > > > >> I’m experiencing problems with the file path. I > moved some folders of photos I’d already worked on. Some photos show the > pixelated scull, others show thumbnails but aren’t accessible for further > editing I can’t find how to restore/repair the file paths. > > > > >> > > > > >> When clicking on the image to work on it, it says: > “image (name) is currently unavailable”. Please see the screenshot below for > the scull and folder names with strike through. > > > > >> > > > > >> How can I resolve this? Google wasn’t of any help. > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> Can’t send screenshot – it extended the allowed > size. <<< > > > > >> > > > > >> Kind regards, > > > > >> > > > > >> Hieke van Hoogdalem > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > ___
Re: [darktable-user] How to repair file path
* Hieke van Hoogdalem [01-16-23 15:13]: > Hi Patrick, > > Thanks again. I'm not sure what you mean by 'you do know how to list dotted > files, ls -la ???'. Can you explain? > > Hartelijke groet, > Hieke van Hoogdalem > > Op 16-01-2023 20:42 heeft Patrick Shanahan geschreven: > > * Hieke van Hoogdalem [01-16-23 14:38]: > > Hi! There were no xmp files in the folder, strangely enough. But I > moved the complete folder. So it those are hidden files, they were relocated > too. > > > > Hartelijke groet, > > Hieke van Hoogdalem > > > > Op 16-01-2023 20:35 heeft Patrick Shanahan > geschreven: > > > > * Hieke van Hoogdalem [01-16-23 > 10:23]: > > > When I rightclick, I see these options (see attachement) and when > I click on 'search filmroll...' nothing happens. I tried several times. > > > > > > What can I do to make it work? > > > > > > I can also, like Marco suggested, remove the skulls and > thumbnails from the library and add the folder from the new location. But > what happens with the edits? I don't see a sidecar file in the folders on my > harddisk and I don't want to loose all the work already done to those > pictures. > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > Hieke van Hoogdalem > > > > > > Op 15-01-2023 17:45 heeft Bernhard > geschreven: > > > > > > Just do this > > > > https://docs.darktable.org/usermanual/4.0/en/module-reference/utility-modules/shared/collections/#updating-the-folder-path-of-moved-images > > > > > > Marco DE BOOIJ schrieb am 15.01.23 um 17:07: > > > > I suppose that you did not move them with darktable? You > must remove those 'skulls' and thumbnails from the library and then add the > folders that you moved from the new location. It is always better to use the > move option from within darktable. > > > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > > > Marco > > > > > > > > Op 15/01/2023 om 16:51 schreef Hieke van Hoogdalem: > > > >> > > > >> Hi all, > > > >> > > > >> I’m experiencing problems with the file path. I moved some > folders of photos I’d already worked on. Some photos show the pixelated > scull, others show thumbnails but aren’t accessible for further editing I > can’t find how to restore/repair the file paths. > > > >> > > > >> When clicking on the image to work on it, it says: “image > (name) is currently unavailable”. Please see the screenshot below for the > scull and folder names with strike through. > > > >> > > > >> How can I resolve this? Google wasn’t of any help. > > > >> > > > >> >>> Can’t send screenshot – it extended the allowed size. > <<< > > > >> > > > >> Kind regards, > > > >> > > > >> Hieke van Hoogdalem > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > -- > > > > > > regards > > > Bernhard > > > > > > https://www.bilddateien.de > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.or > > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > to un
Re: [darktable-user] How to repair file path
* Hieke van Hoogdalem [01-16-23 10:23]: > When I rightclick, I see these options (see attachement) and when I click on > 'search filmroll...' nothing happens. I tried several times. > > What can I do to make it work? > > I can also, like Marco suggested, remove the skulls and thumbnails from the > library and add the folder from the new location. But what happens with the > edits? I don't see a sidecar file in the folders on my harddisk and I don't > want to loose all the work already done to those pictures. > > Kind regards, > Hieke van Hoogdalem > > Op 15-01-2023 17:45 heeft Bernhard > geschreven: > > Just do this > > https://docs.darktable.org/usermanual/4.0/en/module-reference/utility-modules/shared/collections/#updating-the-folder-path-of-moved-images > > Marco DE BOOIJ schrieb am 15.01.23 um 17:07: > > I suppose that you did not move them with darktable? You must remove > those 'skulls' and thumbnails from the library and then add the folders that > you moved from the new location. It is always better to use the move option > from within darktable. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Marco > > > > Op 15/01/2023 om 16:51 schreef Hieke van Hoogdalem: > >> > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I’m experiencing problems with the file path. I moved some folders of > photos I’d already worked on. Some photos show the pixelated scull, others > show thumbnails but aren’t accessible for further editing. I can’t find how > to restore/repair the file paths. > >> > >> When clicking on the image to work on it, it says: “image (name) is > currently unavailable”. Please see the screenshot below for the scull and > folder names with strike through. > >> > >> How can I resolve this? Google wasn’t of any help. > >> > >> >>> Can’t send screenshot – it extended the allowed size. <<< > >> > >> Kind regards, > >> > >> Hieke van Hoogdalem > >> > >> > >> > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > -- > > regards > Bernhard > > https://www.bilddateien.de > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.or > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org did you move the xmp attachment files when you moved the photos? importing from the new location with accompanying xmp files should preserve your previous edits. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] How to repair file path
* Hieke van Hoogdalem [01-15-23 14:57]: > Tnx. I don’t know how that works – moving from within Darktable. I just went > about rearraning my folders without thinking about the DT consequences > > > > Hartelijke groet, > > Hieke van Hoogdalem > > > > Van: Marco DE BOOIJ > Datum: zondag 15 januari 2023 om 17:18 > Aan: > Onderwerp: Re: [darktable-user] How to repair file path > > > > I suppose that you did not move them with darktable? You must remove those > 'skulls' and thumbnails from the library and then add the folders that you > moved from the new location. It is always better to use the move option from > within darktable. > > Kind regards, > > Marco > > Op 15/01/2023 om 16:51 schreef Hieke van Hoogdalem: > > Hi all, > > > > I’m experiencing problems with the file path. I moved some folders of photos > I’d already worked on. Some photos show the pixelated scull, others show > thumbnails but aren’t accessible for further editing. I can’t find how to > restore/repair the file paths. > > > > When clicking on the image to work on it, it says: “image (name) is currently > unavailable”. Please see the screenshot below for the scull and folder names > with strike through. > > > > How can I resolve this? Google wasn’t of any help. > > > > >>> Can’t send screenshot – it extended the allowed size. <<< > > > > Kind regards, > > Hieke van Hoogdalem > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > the simplest and easiest solution would be to run the dt included script "/usr/share/darktable/tools/purge_non_existing_images.sh", then reimport the subject images. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] A weird occurrence
* Patrick Shanahan [01-09-23 22:44]: > * Willy Williams [01-09-23 22:35]: > > Thanks, Patrick, > > > > When I clicked on the link, I get this window: > > > > > > And none of the options show the darktable shutter image. As a reminder, I > > am using Linux Mint and installed using a flatpak, so files are in a > > different location than what I'm used to. Very confusing! Any idea what > > the filename for that specific image is? I can certainly search for it and > > see where if resides, if it is there at all. > > > > Willy Williams > > > > > > > > On 1/9/23 12:51, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > * Jean-Luc [01-09-23 12:38]: > > > > Le 09/01/2023 à 15:23, Willy Williams a écrit : > > > > > I was finally able to successfully get darktable 4.2.0 to install on > > > > > my > > > > > one Linux Mint machine yesterday after having had to delete virtually > > > > > everything darktable-related from prior versions due to bogus lock > > > > > file > > > > > issues. The reinstalled product works splendidly, but I've run into a > > > > > true confuser. The small darktable shutter logo does not appear in > > > > > the > > > > > start menu, although the text does appear, and when I pin darktable to > > > > > the system tray, a blank space appears where the shutter should > > > > > appear. > > > > > When I click on either, darktable starts and runs without a hitch. > > > > > It's > > > > > just that the shutter logo is absent. Any clues as to how to remedy > > > > > this > > > > > condition? > > > > > > > > > > Willy Williams > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > "When a photo of a person looks deep into your spirit and tells > > > > > you a > > > > > thousand stories ... > > > > > stories from your past even before you existed, then the photo is > > > > > way > > > > > above any description." > > > > > > > > > > - Sameh Elsayed > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > Hello Willy, > > > > > > > > This happened to me when I compiled using > > > > > > > > cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/opt/darktable/ .. > > > > > > > > I solved it by putting dt in /usr instead > > > > > > > > cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr/ .. > > > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > if plasma5/kde5, probably the icon noted in darktable.desktop is not > > > where the file believes > > > > > > on the link and oper properties > > > the dt logo should appear upper left > > > you can click on that space and provide the correct location. > > > > > > if you need help locating the icon, just ask > > then the "flatpak" was probably deficient. > > in your "normal" system, it would appear in > /usr/share/icons/hicolor/***/apps/darktable.png > where the *** are the size of the icon such as 24x24. > > ls -laR /usr/share/icons/hicolor/ |grep darktable > > I have no idea about flatpak > you possible could copy the icons into the flatpak package ??? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] A weird occurrence
* Willy Williams [01-09-23 22:35]: > Thanks, Patrick, > > When I clicked on the link, I get this window: > > > And none of the options show the darktable shutter image. As a reminder, I > am using Linux Mint and installed using a flatpak, so files are in a > different location than what I'm used to. Very confusing! Any idea what > the filename for that specific image is? I can certainly search for it and > see where if resides, if it is there at all. > > Willy Williams > > ******** > > On 1/9/23 12:51, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * Jean-Luc [01-09-23 12:38]: > > > Le 09/01/2023 à 15:23, Willy Williams a écrit : > > > > I was finally able to successfully get darktable 4.2.0 to install on my > > > > one Linux Mint machine yesterday after having had to delete virtually > > > > everything darktable-related from prior versions due to bogus lock file > > > > issues. The reinstalled product works splendidly, but I've run into a > > > > true confuser. The small darktable shutter logo does not appear in the > > > > start menu, although the text does appear, and when I pin darktable to > > > > the system tray, a blank space appears where the shutter should appear. > > > > When I click on either, darktable starts and runs without a hitch. It's > > > > just that the shutter logo is absent. Any clues as to how to remedy this > > > > condition? > > > > > > > > Willy Williams > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > "When a photo of a person looks deep into your spirit and tells you a > > > > thousand stories ... > > > > stories from your past even before you existed, then the photo is way > > > > above any description." > > > > > > > > - Sameh Elsayed > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > Hello Willy, > > > > > > This happened to me when I compiled using > > > > > > cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/opt/darktable/ .. > > > > > > I solved it by putting dt in /usr instead > > > > > > cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr/ .. > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > if plasma5/kde5, probably the icon noted in darktable.desktop is not > > where the file believes > > > > on the link and oper properties > > the dt logo should appear upper left > > you can click on that space and provide the correct location. > > > > if you need help locating the icon, just ask then the "flatpak" was probably deficient. in your "normal" system, it would appear in /usr/share/icons/hicolor/***/apps/darktable.png where the *** are the size of the icon such as 24x24. ls -laR /usr/share/icons/hicolor/ |grep darktable I have no idea about flatpak -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] A weird occurrence
* Jean-Luc [01-09-23 12:38]: > Le 09/01/2023 à 15:23, Willy Williams a écrit : > > > > I was finally able to successfully get darktable 4.2.0 to install on my > > one Linux Mint machine yesterday after having had to delete virtually > > everything darktable-related from prior versions due to bogus lock file > > issues. The reinstalled product works splendidly, but I've run into a > > true confuser. The small darktable shutter logo does not appear in the > > start menu, although the text does appear, and when I pin darktable to > > the system tray, a blank space appears where the shutter should appear. > > When I click on either, darktable starts and runs without a hitch. It's > > just that the shutter logo is absent. Any clues as to how to remedy this > > condition? > > > > Willy Williams > > > > -- > > > > "When a photo of a person looks deep into your spirit and tells you a > > thousand stories ... > > stories from your past even before you existed, then the photo is way > > above any description." > > > > - Sameh Elsayed > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > Hello Willy, > > This happened to me when I compiled using > >cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/opt/darktable/ .. > > I solved it by putting dt in /usr instead > >cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr/ .. > > Hope this helps. if plasma5/kde5, probably the icon noted in darktable.desktop is not where the file believes on the link and oper properties the dt logo should appear upper left you can click on that space and provide the correct location. if you need help locating the icon, just ask -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Question regarding darktable user groups in northern Virginia
* Rob Campbell [01-06-23 15:43]: > I've updated my cameras.xml but that didn't resolve the issue. It seems > from the patch that the file should be located in data/cameras.xml but mine > is rawspeed/camreas.xml > > ~ > In all things, Be Intentional. > > > On Fri, Jan 6, 2023 at 11:52 AM Carlos Echenique > wrote: > > > Send them some raw files from your Z9 and they will update the camera.xml > > file tout suite. I did that for my Fuji X-H2 and X-H2s prior to that. You > > can surf over to https://pixls.us > > <https://mailtrack.io/trace/link/303692c956dbd393b5b858051f188a9786b7a003?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpixls.us=3957204=108dde8abc34a40f> > > to see how to upload files to add support. You may have to manually install > > the new cameras.xml file until it gets merged with the new profiles. > > [image: photo] > > Carlos Echenique > > Photographer at CE Photographic > > P 305.219.2433 <305.219.2433> > > E car...@echenique.com > > W cephotographic.com > > <https://mailtrack.io/trace/link/e2f1908540d9d074dad5308b5ce3bd99b1b17cbe?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcephotographic.com=3957204=4357f90b0e5c8bcb> > > > > <https://mailtrack.io/trace/link/9db37140caa0a930e94b8901bf692173e132e16e?url=http%3A%2F%2Finstagram.com%2Fcephotographic=3957204=de86d8c60f760a64> > > <https://mailtrack.io/trace/link/f37ad94c799aae649fa421f16f07103ff19d2455?url=http%3A%2F%2Ffacebook.com%2Fcephotos=3957204=b1e25c9cb49b5053> > > <https://mailtrack.io/trace/link/ddd0d3f744f9d9c51e3650403cbec4634631f2fd?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fechenique=3957204=277a535d00d91f36> > > > > "Wine is constant proof that God loves us and loves to see us happy." - > > Benjamin Franklin. > > Create your own email signature > > <https://mailtrack.io/trace/link/17d568a8f7b59608d36b10c9d373024b39345dfe?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wisestamp.com%2Fcreate-own-email-signature%2F%3Futm_source%3Dpromotion%26utm_medium%3Dsignature%26utm_campaign%3Dcreate_your_own%26srcid%3D=3957204=2c65aa5775807cd5> > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 6, 2023 at 11:31 AM Rob Campbell > > wrote: > > > >> I would be interested but I've added Z9 to my bag and I can't yet use DT > >> with it. I do still use it for my D850 shots. I don't get out at all > >> since CoViD but I may start peeking my head out this summer. I'm all for > >> online meetups in the meantime though. > >> > >> ~ > >> In all things, Be Intentional. > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 11:43 AM Willy Williams > >> wrote: > >> > >>> I've been wondering how many darktable users there are in the northern > >>> Virginia area (Fairfax, Arlington, Alexandria, Loudoun Counties), and if > >>> there's any interest in forming a local darktable user group via Meetup? > >>> Thoughts? > >>> > >>> Willy Williams > >>> -- > >>> > >>> "When a photo of a person looks deep into your spirit and tells you a > >>> thousand stories ... > >>> stories from your past even before you existed, then the photo is way > >>> above any description." > >>> > >>> - Sameh Elsayed > >>> > >>> -- > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > >>> darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > >>> > >> > >> > >> darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > >> darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > >> > > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > I believe /usr/share/darktable/rawspeed/cameras.xml is the installed location on openSUSE Tumbleweed as that is where I find it. the build puts it: share/darktable/rawspeed/cameras.xml which would be the same. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] darktable 4.2.0 released
* Jan Ingwer Baer [12-22-22 15:13]: > On 22-Dec-22 21:03, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * Jan Ingwer Baer [12-22-22 15:00]: > > > On 22-Dec-22 20:38, Michael Rasmussen wrote: > > > > On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 20:21:18 +0100 > > > > Jan Ingwer Baer wrote: > > > > > > > > > Is there any documentation which camera models are supported? > > > > On the homepage ? > > > > https://www.darktable.org/resources/camera-support/ > > > > > > > My question was specific about the support of the lens-distortion data. > > > > darktable does not do that, but uses lensfun. you may look at: > >https://lensfun.github.io/lenslist/ > > > In the list of additional features of the new DT version was mentioned: > > > > - Some cameras record lens correction information within the image > > EXIF metadata. The lens correction module has been enhanced so that > > it can extract this data and use it to correct lens distortions. > > This was the topic of my question. Or to be more precise: For which > camera models is the extraction of lens correction information supported? iiuc, those cameras which provide that information. does your's? if so, try the newly released dt or master build and see if it works for you. otherwise one would need to definitively know which cameras provide that info and that they are supported in that manner. I really doubt that anyone knows for sure *all* of the camera models that provide that info. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] darktable 4.2.0 released
* Jan Ingwer Baer [12-22-22 15:00]: > On 22-Dec-22 20:38, Michael Rasmussen wrote: > > On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 20:21:18 +0100 > > Jan Ingwer Baer wrote: > > > > > Is there any documentation which camera models are supported? > > On the homepage ? > > https://www.darktable.org/resources/camera-support/ > > > My question was specific about the support of the lens-distortion data. darktable does not do that, but uses lensfun. you may look at: https://lensfun.github.io/lenslist/ -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Time for a new system
* Willy Williams [12-20-22 12:34]: > The point of my suggestion, Patrick, is in keeping with Chris' #2 rule for > business continuity - "*/2) the data is at two different geographical > locations./*" Setting up a server at home violates that premise, especially > when one runs a NAS at home. > > Willy Williams > > * > > On 12/19/2022 at 10:01, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * Willy Williams [12-19-22 09:56]: > > > To piggyback on Chris' comments, there's a relatively new remote personal > > > cloud storage option known as the AmberPRO > > > -https://shop.myamberlife.com/collections/all/products/amber?variant=22314078404666. > > > Put one of these at a friend's home in another part of the region. Set it > > > up on its own UPS, with Ethernet surge protection such as this > > > -https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-ETH-SP-G2-Surge-Suppressor-Protector/dp/B079HXKRW1/ref=asc_df_B079HXKRW1?tag=bngsmtphsnus-20=df0=79989588513695=s=e=be=c===pla-4583589115360178=1 > > > to guard against lightning surges. You can even plug in an external hard > > > drive (or SSD) for additional storage. Hard to beat this option. > > > > > > Willy Williams > > > > > > *** > > > > > > On 12/16/2022 at 14:27, Chris Albertson wrote: > > > > Actualy you can extend Macro's comments like this... > > > > > > > > Just my 2 cents. Who says that "X" is reliable? It can be hacked, get > > > > bankrupt or change price/policy, catch on fire, destroy by an earthquake > > > > or nuclear war > > > > > > > > The above is true for all manner of "X", that is why you have these > > > > basic rules for backup > > > > > > > > 1) the data shall always exist on three different physical file systems > > > > 2) The data shall always exist at two different geographical locations > > > > 3) new data shall never overwrite old data, subject to some reasonable > > > > retention period. This rule is critical. A common problem is file > > > > corruption. You never want the problem where a corrupted version of a > > > > file overwrite the backed up uncorrupted version. You have to keep the > > > > old copies of the files. So re-used backup media is a bad ide. Batter > > > > to just write the changes to the media until the media is full. Keepingn > > > > to overwriting the old data. > > > > > > > > You can do this in lots of ways, the common "build vs buy vs rent" > > > > analysis can be applied. > > > > > > > > The most common cause for data lost is no longer a failed disk. The > > > > most common is: > > > > #1 Operator error, you delete a file and you don't notice this until > > > > much later. > > > > #2 loss of equipment, misplaced notebook, theft or fire, electric > > > > surge,... > > > > > > > > A really good offsite system s to setup a second NAS across town and let > > > > then keep sysnc'd over the INternet. Now you have second-by-second > > > > backup. Is the NAS uses a versioned filesystem then you have point in > > > > time recovery. You can buy the NAS, built is to rent space on some > > > > company's NAS. > > > > > > > > A lot depends on if the data is business critical or not. Where I > > > > used to work there where three offsite company own NAS systems. Triple > > > > redundant offsite is kind of nuts for most people but the data was > > > > historic data from past space missions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 06/12/22 17:26, Marco DE BOOIJ wrote: > > > > > Just my 2 cents. Who says that the cloud is 100% reliable? Can be > > > > > hacked, get bankrupt or change price/policy. Until now not heard > > > > > of the first 2 but the 3rd has happened. > > > > > > > > > > My 'solution'. Just buy 2 cheap external discs. Backup to both > > > > > disks and bring one to a friend/relative (not your neighbour > > > > > because if your place burns, the neighbours place will likely > > > > > burn too). Next backups backup to the disc at your place and > > > > > exchange it with the other one and backup again
Re: [darktable-user] Time for a new system
ur time worth? We > > > > assume this is a business and not a hobby. > > > > > > > > The company I used to work for used three large storage systems > > > > each one in a different city and they kept them all in sync. > > > > But they already had IT staff and the server rooms in place. > > > > > > > > Synology does make backing up to a remote NAS really easy to > > > > setup. The only problem is the up-front cost is at least > > > > doubled because you need a second NAS box. So you have to > > > > decide if you would rather pay $1,200 for the hardware of $30 > > > > per month for a service. > > > > > > > > The usual rule of thumb about backing up business critical data > > > > is that is all cases > > > > 1) the data is one three different media and > > > > 2) the data is at two different geographical locations. > > > > > > > > Usually this means the Data is on your computer, your backup > > > > disk or NAS, and in a cloud server. That is three different media. > > > > and your office and the cloud provide two different geographic > > > > locations. > > > > > > > > The above is the minimum. Your share holders would consider > > > > you incompetent and sue you if you did less, you can always do more. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Chris Albertson > > > > Redondo Beach, California > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > <mailto:darktable-user%2bunsubscr...@lists.darktable.org> > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Chris Albertson > > Redondo Beach, California > > > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org not so hard if you set up your own server at home and use the storage on it or an attached drive, and *much* cheaper. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Current git master breaks 'add to library' ?
* Terry Duell [12-13-22 16:30]: > On Mon, 2022-12-12 at 22:29 -0800, Jack Bowling wrote: > > Fixed in master: > > > > https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/pull/13138 > > > > Jack > > Thanks Jack. > the a commit today fixed the issue. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Current git master breaks 'add to library' ?
* Terry Duell [12-12-22 18:11]: > Hello, > I've just build release-4.1.0-1222-g3ddcdbcc8, on Fedora 37, using rpmbuild, > and > find that 'add to library' fails to add images to the lighttable, which > remains > blank. > A build of release-4.1.0-1204-g6466c4b4c works as expected. > It may be a local issue, not sure, so it would be useful if anyone else has > this > or a similar problem before I take the trouble to lodge an issue. problem is sql, work-a-round is to clear "collections filter". panel is immediately below "collections" on left panel. problem is known but I have not see a PR yet. and it is indeed *broken*. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] darktable-chart
* David Vincent-Jones [12-08-22 21:24]: > Using today's git version (4.1.0+1186~g4556cee4d1) on Manjjaro/Arch/XFCE I > get: > > [david@david-g5 ~]$ darktable-chart > Segmentation fault (core dumped) > > Are others seeing this problem? > no, release-4.1.0-1190-g39d46ffa1 openSUSE Tumbleweed 20221206 self compiled -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Off site BU
* Marc Sitkin [12-06-22 12:12]: > I've been using Backblaze for an offsite BU for a few years now. Cost for > around 1.5T is $7.50/month. > > Backups are automatic, and yes, I've checked restoring files, no problem. > > -- > Marc Sitkin > Mexico 2022 <https://marcsitkin.smugmug.com/Mexico/Mexico-2022/> > 50 images from Iceland 2021 > <https://marcsitkin.smugmug.com/Iceland/Iceland-2021-50-Images/> > Marc Sitkin Photography Web Site <http://marcsitkin.smugmug.com> > Instagram <https://www.instagram.com/marcsitkin/> > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org I backup to two external drives and keep one in my barn which is detached from the house and far enough away that a fire would not jump to it. I feed my birds every day from the barn so I rotate the drives when feeding the birds. total cost forever not counting power is the original cost of the external drives. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Moving DT between OS and computers?
* Bengt Falke [11-12-22 14:05]: > I need to move DT and all images from my wifes Macbook pro to > a Linux Mint computer. I understand that most are in the XMP files but > some info are in the DB. Where can I find info on what is where? > How should I go about moving all to a new computer and a new OS? > > Are there instructions somewhere? specific, I am not aware, but ... install dt on the new computer copy the images and accompanying xmp files to new computer copy the macbook equivalent "/home/user/.config/darktable" to the new computer, /home//.config/darktable import the relocated image files on the new computer and except for dt needing to recreate the cache files, you should be good to go are retain all edits and configurations. gud luk, -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Module on/off buttons
* David Vincent-Jones [11-11-22 20:03]: > Thank you Patrick . > > Maybe you could point me to this changelog. > > On 2022-11-09 17:49, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * David Vincent-Jones [11-09-22 19:37]: > > > dt ver: 4.1.0+931~g6b19c4664d ... Manjaro/Arch/XFCE > > > > > > The on/off module buttons appear to have changed on my system. What I am > > > seeing now is that the buttons showing 'activity' are dim and the > > > 'inactive' > > > modules are bright which somehow does not make sense. Has something > > > changed? > > > > > > , > > > > > > Only d/s, lens c and denoise(p) are active > > > > you might watch the changelog for dt. > > > > rpm -q --changelog darktable * Fri Nov 11 2022 obs-service-tar-scm@invalid - Update to version 4.1.0~git964.ba26746b: * Fix HLR tiling unavailable for inpaint opposed too * request natural instead of fixed side panel width * Make lensfun dependency mandatory * Ukrainian translation update * fix blending tabs background - a fix on a fix on a fix... * iop/lens: fix corrections_done not updating ... or you can obtain similar on github or you can watch "dtslave" announcements on #darktable or the commits on the mailings from github and perhaps several other ways that I don't see -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Module on/off buttons
* David Vincent-Jones [11-09-22 19:37]: > dt ver: 4.1.0+931~g6b19c4664d ... Manjaro/Arch/XFCE > > The on/off module buttons appear to have changed on my system. What I am > seeing now is that the buttons showing 'activity' are dim and the 'inactive' > modules are bright which somehow does not make sense. Has something changed? > > , > > Only d/s, lens c and denoise(p) are active you might watch the changelog for dt. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Updating the Database
* tony Hamilton [10-31-22 15:07]: > I hope this addition to this topic is not seen to be an attempt at > high-jacking the thread - my apologies if it is. > > One way in which I wish the database would be updated is when I add an XMP > of the duplicate of an image (i.e. a filename of the form > 'x__01.raf.xmp') to my image folder portfolio, as a result of > copying that XMP from another of my computers. I do this quite frequently, > using FreeFileSync to ensure that the image portfolios are synchronised, > without having to remember which duplicates I have created. I had thought > that the 'preferences>storage>xmp-'look for updated xmp files on startup'' > option would cause dt to updated its database with the new xmp file. It > doesn't, because the option is to look only for updates, not new files, at > startup. Is there an easy way to force this behaviour? > > On 22/10/2022 07:04, Michael Staats wrote: > > On 21/10/2022 19:28, Jack Bowling wrote: > > [ ... ] > > > > > box is way too sensitive, such that if you cleaned up spots too fast, it > > > would kill darktable unmercifully. I have a Ryzen 3900X (12 cores, 24 > > Hi > > Ok, let's make a difference between one process (darktable) that is > > crashing, or the full "system" (computer). > > Darktable "crashes" do happen sometimes, to me as well. Not very often, > > and the last time it happened, it was my own fault, not enough memory > > and no swap space configured, so the kernel killed my process... > > > > If darktable "crashes", hopefully we'll lose only data for the picture > > that we are working on at the moment of the crash. The xmp files for the > > other pictures hold all the information you need, and the db as well. > > This "crash" can be any ungraceful termination, a "kill -9" would > > suffice, if you want. That's "fine" for me. Using software is a risk. > > Always. > > > > Real problems (tm) occur if you machine crashes completely, for whatever > > reason. That should not happen. Even Windows does not crash every day > > any more (esp. when properly, i.e. not at all, used ;-) > > > > Best regards, > > Michael > > > > -- > > Michael Staats > > michael.sta...@gmx.de > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > ________ > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org an import of that/those particular directories should suffice and be rather quick as most would already exist. or empoye a remove/nas and copy images locally for work (wat i du) -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Email Export
* David Vincent-Jones [10-28-22 12:36]: > I hate to pursue this problem that appears to have suddenly started on my > system, I updated from the git this morning and nothing changed. Here is the > small clip from my desktop ... nothing appears unusual. My email prog. is > Thunderbird. > > The image information is correctly shown as the first line of the email also > the subject. > > Any idea where I should start looking? Manjaro/Arch/XFCE currently > running ver:4.1.0+667~gebaa525a02 > > On 2022-10-27 03:37, Richard Hobday wrote: > > On 27/10/2022 03:50, David Vincent-Jones wrote: > > > 4.1.0+631~ga262c59d9e Manjaro/Arch/XFCE > > > > > > 'Send as email' not currently functioning. The names of the exported > > > files are correctly shown as a text header but the files are not > > > attached. > > > > > > Are others seeing this problem? If so I will formally report. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > Working fine for me. > > dt 4.1.0+658~gf1ab2ea8e > > Thunderbird 102.2.2 (64-bit) > > Mint 21 Cinnamon Ubuntu 22.04 > > > > There have been issues in the past with /home//.local/bin/xdg-email > > not correctly parsing the OS - I think this was fixed a long time ago on > > most mainstream distros. > > Certainly the current version on Ubuntu 22.04 works fine. > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > ________ > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org works-4-me on darktable-4.1.0~git666.08e1304b-8444.1 openSUSE Tumbleweed -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Email Export
* David Vincent-Jones [10-26-22 23:13]: > 4.1.0+631~ga262c59d9e Manjaro/Arch/XFCE > > 'Send as email' not currently functioning. The names of the exported files > are correctly shown as a text header but the files are not attached. > > Are others seeing this problem? If so I will formally report. > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org no, works-4-me -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Side column width
* David Vincent-Jones [10-26-22 21:14]: > Is there a limiting size for the side columns? I am working with a 4k.. > display and the size on my screen appears to be smaller than that which I am > noticing on some demonstration videos. > > I appear to have dragged the column border to its maximum width position. > > Manjaro/Arch/XFCE > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org yes. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Updating the Database
* Bernhard [10-19-22 13:17]: > > > Bruce Guenter schrieb am 18.10.22 um 23:53: > > Now, the database has recorded the images as being there, but the edits > > are only present in the XMP files, so the edits appear to be lost. They > > can be recovered by reimporting the files, which will reload the XMP > > sidecars, but it's somewhat surprising to need an extra step to recover > > a database which, hypothetically, should be at least as durable as the > > sidecars. > This *extra step* should be presented automatically - at least, when you turn > this on: > > > look for updated xmp files on startup > > Scan all XMP files on startup and check if any have been updated in the > > meantime by some other software. If updated XMP files are found, a menu is > > opened for the user to choose which of the XMP files to reload (replacing > > darktable’s database entries by the XMP file contents) and which of the XMP > > to overwrite from darktable’s database. Activating this option also causes > > darktable to check for text sidecar files that have been added after import > > time (default off). > > > https://darktable-org.github.io/dtdocs/en/preferences-settings/storage/ > > -- > > regards > Bernhard > > https://www.bilddateien.de > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.or I am sure that a patch would be welcomed. your move. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Exif tag lost during conversion nef to jpg
* Gray Card [10-19-22 12:22]: > For what it's worth, I don't get Elevation data when importing into > darktable either. I do see elevation data on the phone, so I'm not clear as > to where it's getting lost in the process. It could be getting lost between > the phone and Panasonic Image App as the image is being recorded (then > again, latitude and longitude ARE being recorded and do show up in > darktable), or after it has been recorded and as the image is being imported > into darktable. Is there anyone else using a Lumix camera that is not > getting elevation data in darktable? > > Willy Williams > > *** > > On 10/16/22 11:09, Ruud Baart wrote: > > > > All metadata has been checked. > > > > Op 16-10-2022 om 15:54 schreef Gray Card: > > > > > > I must modify my previous comment. The metadata preferences > > > (settings) do include an entry for elevation (third from the > > > bottom). You might want to note whether that has been checked. > > > > > > > > > Willy Williams > > > > > > ** > > > > > > On 10/14/22 14:16, Gray Card wrote: > > > > > > > > Altitude is not a discrete tag within the export preferences module. > > > > > > > > Willy Williams > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > On 10/14/22 12:36, Jean-Luc wrote: > > > > > Le 14/10/2022 à 17:53, Ruud Baart a écrit : > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > while converting from nef to jpg using > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable-cli file.nef xmp-file file.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > the exif tag GPSAltitude is lost. There are more > > > > > > differences in the exif tags between the jpg and nef > > > > > > file. See attached pdf. > > > > > > > > > > > > I seems to me the missing GPSAltitude and the double > > > > > > DateTimeOriginal are bugs. Other differences can be > > > > > > correct. Could someone with more experience than I have > > > > > > maybe take a look at it? The missing GPSAltitude is a > > > > > > bit annoying. > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > Maybe I am wrong, but if I remember correctly this can be > > > > > set using a menu in the export module. > > > > > There you can set what data you whish to export together > > > > > with you images. > > > > > > > > > > Rgrds, > > > > > > > > > > J.-Luc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org fwiw: for images containing Altitude information, my exported jpg's also contain that information. using dt master 75f36110 -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Updating the Database
* Bruce Guenter [10-19-22 12:22]: > On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 03:17:38PM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * David Vincent-Jones [10-17-22 12:46]: > > > Probably Patrick because I did not know of that option. > > > > > > Most software systems, that I have used, automatically save work as a > > > background process and on a preset time basis. Do you think that this > > > might > > > be a useful addition for dt? > > > > you missed it. dt writes xmp files as I edit or open images and on import > > while it applies the default and scripted settings. > > > > open config > > go to storage > > look at xmp > > "write sidecar file for each image" > > select "on import" or "after edit" > > I too have observed this behavior in the past (haven't crashed in a > while so I can't verify recent versions). Yes, DT writes the XMP files > after every change, so nothing is truely lost, but it does not write the > main database as frequently if at all before shutdown, which I think is > David's concern. Consider the following steps: > > * Open darktable, import some images > * Close darktable, database is saved, all is good > * Open darktable again, edit some images > * System crashes (power failure, whatever) > * Start darktable again > > Now, the database has recorded the images as being there, but the edits > are only present in the XMP files, so the edits appear to be lost. They > can be recovered by reimporting the files, which will reload the XMP > sidecars, but it's somewhat surprising to need an extra step to recover > a database which, hypothetically, should be at least as durable as the > sidecars. everything is about timing. the database is updated when you close dt, iiuc. if one experiences a system crash, all bets on anything are off. but the edits are not lost and anyone experiencing frequent system crashes should expect to need to perform recovery actions for anything being written during the crash. ps: anyone now days experiencing "frequent" system crashes should identify the cause and correct it rather than complain about loosing data, which *should* be expected. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Updating the Database
* David Vincent-Jones [10-17-22 12:46]: > Probably Patrick because I did not know of that option. > > Most software systems, that I have used, automatically save work as a > background process and on a preset time basis. Do you think that this might > be a useful addition for dt? > > David > > On 2022-10-16 17:51, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * David Vincent-Jones [10-16-22 18:54]: > > > No Patrick my problem lies with updating from changes to tagging, > > > stars > > > and color groups. > > > > > > On 2022-10-16 13:02, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > * David Vincent-Jones [10-16-22 13:15]: > > > > > Is there a way to update the database other than shutting dt down? > > > > > > > > > > I am still having some system failures and find it annoying that > > > > > recently > > > > > updated tags etc are lost when this happens. > > > > you can set it to update when you open dt. > > > > > > > > I assume you are speaking of the db update from program changing, rather > > > > than adding/changing images. > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > to unsubscribe send a mail > > > todarktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > then why not set dt to write to the db as you use it instead of waiting > > until you are done? > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org you missed it. dt writes xmp files as I edit or open images and on import while it applies the default and scripted settings. open config go to storage look at xmp "write sidecar file for each image" select "on import" or "after edit" if your computer is crashing, you have insufficient memory or bad memory or another hardware problem. dt "should" not cause your computer to crash and writing to disk, writing the db file, should not either. maybe you have a bad disk. at any rate, your edits should be saved in the xmp files and nothing should be lost even if your db becomes corrupted, just import again subject files. note for dt: sidecar = xmp -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Updating the Database
* David Vincent-Jones [10-16-22 18:54]: > No Patrick my problem lies with updating from changes to tagging, stars > and color groups. > > On 2022-10-16 13:02, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * David Vincent-Jones [10-16-22 13:15]: > > > Is there a way to update the database other than shutting dt down? > > > > > > I am still having some system failures and find it annoying that recently > > > updated tags etc are lost when this happens. > > you can set it to update when you open dt. > > > > I assume you are speaking of the db update from program changing, rather > > than adding/changing images. > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org then why not set dt to write to the db as you use it instead of waiting until you are done? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Updating the Database
* David Vincent-Jones [10-16-22 13:15]: > Is there a way to update the database other than shutting dt down? > > I am still having some system failures and find it annoying that recently > updated tags etc are lost when this happens. you can set it to update when you open dt. I assume you are speaking of the db update from program changing, rather than adding/changing images. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Export xmp metadata with correct lang
* Volker Lenhardt [09-29-22 13:16]: > You are right, Patrick, the manual has grown into a really fine tool. That's > where I started in the first place. > > But I'm sorry, but to include iptc tags doesn't seem to have any effect on > the xmp tags. I do get xmp.dc.title and xmp.dc.description, but gimp shows > an empty string whenever there is a special character within. I'm not sure > if it is a gimp problem, but I cannot find the trick to tell it to use utf-8 > with metadata. I hope that dt exports them as utf-8. perhaps related to locale > By the way, I cannot set formulas to manually inserted iptc metadata any > more. They are accepted to be saved, but they are not executed and don't > show, when I reopen the preferences, even "=" is lost. perhaps related to locale > I use dt 4.0.1 on macos Monterey 12.6. My gimp is 2.10.22. > > To improve my workflow I need gimp with these metadata. To abstain from > special characters would be a somewhat ugly solution. maybe you need to set locale prior to launching dt. export US_en darktable > Many thanks > Volker > > Am 29.09.22 um 14:30 schrieb Patrick Shanahan: > > * Volker Lenhardt [09-29-22 06:19]: > > > I want to export my images from dt as jpeg containing xmp metadata, > > > especially Title and Description, e.g. 'Arcen' as Matadata.Title. If I > > > open > > > these files with gimp I find the contents of Xmp.dc.title as > > > 'lang="x-default" Arcen'. I am German, and I want to use umlauts, too. So > > > my > > > Metadata.Title should be 'Arcen. Schlossgärten'. But in this case the > > > exported Xmp.dc.title remains empty. > > > > > > How can I set the correct lang for the export from dt? > > > > in the fine manual: > > > > https://docs.darktable.org/usermanual/development/en/module-reference/utility-modules/shared/export/#metadata-preferences > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org then perhaps you should file a bug report if locale doesn't solve your needs. I don't have the problem as I have little need for special chars. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Export xmp metadata with correct lang
* Volker Lenhardt [09-29-22 06:19]: > I want to export my images from dt as jpeg containing xmp metadata, > especially Title and Description, e.g. 'Arcen' as Matadata.Title. If I open > these files with gimp I find the contents of Xmp.dc.title as > 'lang="x-default" Arcen'. I am German, and I want to use umlauts, too. So my > Metadata.Title should be 'Arcen. Schlossgärten'. But in this case the > exported Xmp.dc.title remains empty. > > How can I set the correct lang for the export from dt? in the fine manual: https://docs.darktable.org/usermanual/development/en/module-reference/utility-modules/shared/export/#metadata-preferences -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Re: AVIF version 10.0.1 (& maybe 10.0.0) not working
* Top Rock Photography [09-02-22 16:42]: > A couple of errata > > >1. That is AVIF version 0.10.1 (not 10.0.1), and version 0.10.0 (not >10.0.0) >2. The library is avifImageYUVToRGB, (not libavifYUBtoRGB) > > Sorry about the mistake. Still, the solution is to not upgrade AVIF beyond > version 0.9.3, or, if one already did, simply downgrade to version 0.9.3. > Again, version 0.10.0 was not tested (by me). > > …And, yes, a bug report has been filed. > > Sincerely, > > Karim Hosein > Top Rock Photography > 754.999.1652 > > > > On Fri, 2 Sept 2022 at 15:03, Top Rock Photography < > ka...@toprockphotography.com> wrote: > > > AVIF version 0.9.3 still does. > > > > I just upgraded my system to the lanes of everything that darktable needs, > > including EXIV2, EXIFTool, et al. > > > > This upgrade included all the AOMedia stuff such as dav1d, rav1e, HEIF, > > ISOBMFF, AVIF, etc. > > > > Before, I had AVIF version 0.9.3. My upgrade included AVIF ver 10.0.1. > > Darktable would not build. it claimed that libYUVtoRGB (or was it, > > libRGBtoYUV???) requires two arguments, but the library was claiming “two > > few arguments.” Apparently, it requires four. > > > > Well, since it would not build, I just thought that I would try my old > > build, —still the same version, 4.0.0, but built with all the previous > > libraries before the upgrade— and everything worked, except export to AVIF, > > which crashed darktable. > > > > I tried building darktable version 4.0.1 but it had the same error. I then > > downgraded AVIF back to version 0.9.3 and my old build worked again. I then > > rebuilt darktable (4.0.0) with all the other new stuff, (but still AVIF > > 0.9.3), and it all works, (but encodes AVIF a little faster). > > > > Anyway, this is NOT a bug report, (I know where and how to file those), > > and this is not a request for help, (I solved my problem for now). This is > > just informative that for those on darktable versions 4.0.0 and 4.0.1, (and > > probably earlier), AVIF version 10.0.1 does not work, but AVIF 0.9.3 does. > > (I did not try AVIF version 10.0.0). > > > > Therefore, if you attempt to upgrade AVIF to 10.0.1 and darktable AVIF > > export does not work, do not be alarmed. A change in libYUVtoRGB (or was it > > libRGBtoYUV???) is causing incompatibilities for now. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Karim Hosein > > Top Rock Photography > > 754.999.1652 > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org see my answer to your issue report. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] dt 4.0 corrupts disk
* Jean-Luc [08-17-22 12:46]: > Le 17/08/2022 à 15:33, Remco Viëtor a écrit : > > On mercredi 17 août 2022 15:12:35 CEST Jean-Luc wrote: > > > Le 17/08/2022 à 13:45, Patrick Shanahan a écrit : > > > > * Jean-Luc [08-17-22 06:12]: > > > > > Le 16/08/2022 à 23:17, I. Ivanov a écrit : > > > > > > On 8/16/22 13:59, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > > > > * Jean-Luc [08-16-22 16:42]: > > > > > > > I would definitely try another external drive and maybe try to > > > > > > > store > > > > > > > on a > > > > > > > local drive and move the files after finishing. > > > > > > Agree with Patrick. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is more likely the DD responds with corrupting the data because > > > > > > of > > > > > > the operation (writing xml I expect) than Darktable actually doing > > > > > > something wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > If it is a spin disk – you may want to check it for bad sectors. But > > > > > > what Patrick suggest should take the disk out of the equation > > > > > > completely. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > B > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > First, it is Testdisk, not memtest - I do not know why I always > > > > > mention > > > > > the > > > > > second instead of the first... > > > > > And I do not know as well why I wrote the scan lasts two hours, since > > > > > it > > > > > takes more than twelve. > > > > > And, yes, does not really reflect the reality : as I have still not > > > > > upgraded to 22.04, the problem might be caused by anything else than > > > > > dt > > > > > itself, so a log would have been a good starting point. > > > > > My interrogation was whether dt coul have saved a crash dump though > > > > > launched as usual - ie with no commuter, aso. The answear is obviously > > > > > no, > > > > > unfortunately. > > > > > The last time it happened I ran a full test after restoration (another > > > > > 12+ > > > > > hours) and no bad sector was detected. > > > > > In any case, I have a backup of the files, I just need to get the > > > > > sidecars > > > > > then I can copy to another disk and restart clean. > > > > you are still not eliminating possibilities with your current approach. > > > Yes, I do, since I intend to copy the files to another disk. I just need > > > to retrieve my sidecars first. > > > > > > > try first to export to a local disk. > > > That might not be really relevant, the problem does not occur > > > systematically. Only two times since dt upgrade and heavy work > > > (reworking my whole images collection, 24k+ photos). > > > > > > > also try to another removable drive. > > > See above, 1st reply. > > > > > > > I doubt "22.04" is the problem. > > > It is not, since I still have not upgraded. So, rather *my* 20.04 install > > > with dt4 - if even. I have installed lots of stuff, and restarting from a > > > fresh 22.04 clean install might be the solution. However, restoration is > > > still in progress, so I have to wait a little bit more. > > > > > > Rgrds, > > > > > > J.-Luc > > While you are troubleshooting, perhaps also do a memtest on the RAM. A > > faulty > > RAM chip once gave me a lot of "bad sectors" on a HDD (and as they were > > marked > > as such, replacing the RAM stopped it getting worse, but didn't recover the > > "bad" sectors...) > > > > In any case, I'd rule out hardware problems before upgrading to a new OS > > version... > > > > Remco > > > Good idea, I will do this. > The scan has finished, the partition was reported as Deleted. It was enough > to revert it to Primary, I am able to access the whole disk correctly. > I am currently copying the sidecars, then I will copy the raws from the > backup disk to a new one and copy the sidecars, and finally run a test on > the "faulty" disk. > It may take some time, I will come back and report when done. running a "test" on the subject disk is good, but utilizing another storage method will give you more troubleshooting information. run on a local disk, completely, and ensure you do not have local problems. then the external disk or the transfer method between it an your computer become *very* suspect. trouble shooting is not hit and miss. it is more about removing concern about the most readily available objects and then diving deeper. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] dt 4.0 corrupts disk
* Jean-Luc [08-17-22 06:12]: > Le 16/08/2022 à 23:17, I. Ivanov a écrit : > > > > On 8/16/22 13:59, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > * Jean-Luc [08-16-22 16:42]: > > > I would definitely try another external drive and maybe try to store > > > on a > > > local drive and move the files after finishing. > > > > > > > > Agree with Patrick. > > > > It is more likely the DD responds with corrupting the data because of > > the operation (writing xml I expect) than Darktable actually doing > > something wrong. > > > > If it is a spin disk – you may want to check it for bad sectors. But > > what Patrick suggest should take the disk out of the equation > > completely. > > > > Regards, > > > > B > > Hello, > > First, it is Testdisk, not memtest - I do not know why I always mention the > second instead of the first... > And I do not know as well why I wrote the scan lasts two hours, since it > takes more than twelve. > And, yes, does not really reflect the reality : as I have still not upgraded > to 22.04, the problem might be caused by anything else than dt itself, so a > log would have been a good starting point. > My interrogation was whether dt coul have saved a crash dump though launched > as usual - ie with no commuter, aso. The answear is obviously no, > unfortunately. > The last time it happened I ran a full test after restoration (another 12+ > hours) and no bad sector was detected. > In any case, I have a backup of the files, I just need to get the sidecars > then I can copy to another disk and restart clean. you are still not eliminating possibilities with your current approach. try first to export to a local disk. also try to another removable drive. I doubt "22.04" is the problem. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] dt 4.0 corrupts disk
* Jean-Luc [08-16-22 16:42]: > Hello, > > dt 4.0 repo / Ubuntu 20.04 LTS / Dell E5540 16 GB RAM / 1To SSD, photos on > external DD. > > This is the second time this happens since running dt 4.0 : pasting > development to a series of photos, dt suddenly freezes and nothing responds > anymore. > After over one hour waiting in vain, I have to kill dt. Then, the external > DD displays garbage and cannot be accessed anymore. So I have switch the > computer off. > When I restart it, te DD is no more mountable, nor accessible by Gparted. > The only way to read it is memtest, which sees the partition and the files > but, in the second part, detects inconsitency in sectors sizes. > It takes about two hours before the scan is finished, so I can copy the > backup fat onto the main one, and all is fine again. > I hope it will end soon, so I can check all ran fine, but this is how I did > the first time. > The question is : is there a chance dt has stored some crash report > somewhere, so I can attach it when I create the bug report ? > I would definitely try another external drive and maybe try to store on a local drive and move the files after finishing. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] thumbnail overlay text
* Pascal Obry [07-29-22 08:03]: > > > Patrick, > > > appears he has, and also appears there is no longer the "zoomable" > > feature, in my opinion "A Good Thing". cannot say I ever felt the > > need to > > use that ?feature?. > > Just a note, it had been removed in a first iteration while rewriting > the lighttable and after discussion some people were using the zoomable > lighttable and so it was re-implemented too. Just to emphasis that the > fact one do not use a feature does not mean that this feature is not > useful. We have a large base of users with many different usage and > workflows. yes, that I do not consider it a feature does not mean someone else does not desire it. > And after all what the issue? This feature is mostly hidden (a single > icon top center of lighttable) for users and will never bother people > not wanting it. So why removing it? It will ease a bit the maintenance > of course, but that's not a user issue. bigest thing for me is the additional icon taking space where a toggle would suffice. > Only intrusive features that user's will have to face all the time is > to be thought more deeply to see if the "pain" for some people is a > global gain for the project or not. > > Regards, your efforts are much appreciated. as a very long time user, I feel that much has been added and complexity of the display/user interface grown immensely. and I speak as a rank amateur. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] thumbnail overlay text
* Bernhard [07-29-22 03:22]: > David Vincent-Jones schrieb am 28.07.22 um 23:53: > > I am actually working with one of my systems with the r version where the > > text information feature appears to be 'broken' and the 'theme' is limited > > to a single option that is difficult to read. Probably my fault for using > > this version! > > > Patrick Shanahan schrieb am 29.07.22 um 03:23: > > no, it is still there, beside the filemanager icon > > more space lost for no reason > @ Patrick > Are you shure Aurelien did not eliminate this out of his fork? appears he has, and also appears there is no longer the "zoomable" feature, in my opinion "A Good Thing". cannot say I ever felt the need to use that ?feature?. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] thumbnail overlay text
* David Vincent-Jones [07-28-22 19:40]: > Thanks Patrick; > > 'File Manage Layout' is the only option with this version. The lighttable > zoom-able version appears to have departed. > > As you say so many choices. After nearly a decade of dt use I am > more confused than ever. > > On 2022-07-28 16:08, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * Terry Pinfold [07-28-22 18:06]: > > > HI David, > > > with your experience you are probably aware of what I am about to > > > suggest. If you set the lighttable to display a lot of images you lose the > > > overlay text because the thumbnails become too small. When you reduce the > > > number of images displayed and the thumbnail size is big enough the > > > overlay > > > text returns. I hope your problem is this simple. > > > > > > On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 at 07:53, David Vincent-Jones > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Thank you Patrick; > > > > > > > > I did indeed do a search in the manual for "thumbnail overlay text" and > > > > obtained copious information on the feature ... unfortunately not > > > > however > > > > how to turn the feature on and off. > > > > > > > > I am actually working with one of my systems with the r version where > > > > the text information feature appears to be 'broken' and the 'theme' is > > > > limited to a single option that is difficult to read. Probably my fault > > > > for > > > > using this version! > > > > > > > > Thanks however for the guidance. > > > > On 2022-07-28 14:02, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > > > > > * David Vincent-Jones > > > > [07-28-22 15:39]: > > > > > > > > Can somebody please guide me to the switch to turn on the overlay text > > > > > > > > > > > > in lighttable, the outlined "star" above the display window on the > > > > right. > > > > > > > > there a a very fine manual, David. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > to unsubscribe send a mail > > > todarktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > you can also set the display to "filemanager layout" instead of "zoomable > > lighttable layout" (don't know why two icons with long text taking much > > space) and the number of images in the layout make no difference in the > > size of the thumbnails displayed. > > > > to many choices > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org no, it is still there, beside the filemanager icon more space lost for no reason -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] thumbnail overlay text
* Terry Pinfold [07-28-22 18:06]: > HI David, >with your experience you are probably aware of what I am about to > suggest. If you set the lighttable to display a lot of images you lose the > overlay text because the thumbnails become too small. When you reduce the > number of images displayed and the thumbnail size is big enough the overlay > text returns. I hope your problem is this simple. > > On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 at 07:53, David Vincent-Jones > wrote: > > > Thank you Patrick; > > > > I did indeed do a search in the manual for "thumbnail overlay text" and > > obtained copious information on the feature ... unfortunately not however > > how to turn the feature on and off. > > > > I am actually working with one of my systems with the r version where > > the text information feature appears to be 'broken' and the 'theme' is > > limited to a single option that is difficult to read. Probably my fault for > > using this version! > > > > Thanks however for the guidance. > > On 2022-07-28 14:02, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > * David Vincent-Jones [07-28-22 > > 15:39]: > > > > Can somebody please guide me to the switch to turn on the overlay text > > > > > > in lighttable, the outlined "star" above the display window on the right. > > > > there a a very fine manual, David. > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org you can also set the display to "filemanager layout" instead of "zoomable lighttable layout" (don't know why two icons with long text taking much space) and the number of images in the layout make no difference in the size of the thumbnails displayed. to many choices -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] thumbnail overlay text
* David Vincent-Jones [07-28-22 15:39]: > Can somebody please guide me to the switch to turn on the overlay text > in lighttable, the outlined "star" above the display window on the right. there a a very fine manual, David. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] start raw in gimp
* Bernhard [07-18-22 16:30]: > > > Patrick Shanahan schrieb am 18.07.22 um 20:43: > > * Michael [07-18-22 14:08]: > > > I can't start a raw file in Gimp via darktable and was wondering if any > > > one has solved/has this problem? > > works fine for me on openSUSE Tumbleweed but I am using darktable master > > release-4.1.0-72-g7e8d11ecc > > > > > in Debian Buster and Gimp GIMP 2.10.8 the Nikon plugin returns an error. > Did not see this til now as I don't use that - just tested because of this > thread. > > Same with Panasonic raw plugin ... > fwiw: statements provide little assistance w/o distro, program version numbers and computer environments, kinda like buying a ford transmission for an gm engine and wondering why it will not bolt up. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] start raw in gimp
* Michael [07-18-22 14:08]: > I can't start a raw file in Gimp via darktable and was wondering if any > one has solved/has this problem? works fine for me on openSUSE Tumbleweed but I am using darktable master release-4.1.0-72-g7e8d11ecc -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Sharpen?
* Mikael Ståldal [07-14-22 06:03]: > Given that the user manual says: > > "Note: The USM algorithm used in this module performs blurs in Lab color > space, which can produce undesirable effects, and is no longer recommended. > Instead use the presets offered by the contrast equalizer module for > deblurring or the local contrast module for general sharpness." > > https://docs.darktable.org/usermanual/development/en/module-reference/processing-modules/sharpen/ > > Why is auto-applying this module still default setting? probably should not be and those that code probably have it set FALSE and have overlooked it. why don't you file an issue to correct it? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] An issue with watermarks under Linux Mint
* Willy Williams [07-11-22 18:21]: > Thanks, Remco. The option suggested did not reveal the desired location for > custom watermarks, but after a day of searching, I did successfully find the > correct location for my custom watermarks under the just-installed Linux > Mint. > > > /var/lib/flatpak/app/org.darktable.Darktable/x86_64/stable/[long-ass-number]/files/share/darktable/watermarks > > > Needless to say, this one is going to be added to my version of The Fine > Manual. > > Willy Williams > > *** > > On 7/10/2022 at 13:25, Remco Viëtor wrote: > > On dimanche 10 juillet 2022 18:12:19 CEST Willy Williams wrote: > > (...) > > > As a related note, I've not been able to locate where the darktable > > > executables reside under Linux Mint. They seem to be carefully > > > concealed, despite the fact that darktable seems to be working properly, > > > as do all the other applications that I've managed to load. > > > > > > Willy Williams > > If you can easily start dt from the command line, the executable must be in > > a > > directory specified in $PATH (try "echo $PATH" in a terminal). > > > > Or your package manager might be able to tell you were the various files are > > installed. > > > > Remco > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail todarktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > ____ > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org the *normal* location is ~/.config/darktable/watermarks -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] D500 - missing camera?
* Dr. A. Krebs [06-21-22 09:22]: > Dear all: > > When I work on pics from D500, this camera model is not recognized as known- > red marked!? > > ! D500 is a well established professional camera since years. > > ! Searching the web and darktable blog/forum, I do not succeed, > unfortunately. > > ? What can I do? > > Is there a solution? > > ? Can I use another camera profile usable within darktable? > > Grateful for help- I also have and frequently use a D500 and have experienced no difficulties developing the pictures with darktable on openSUSE linux. and at https://www.darktable.org/resources/camera-support/, the D500 is recognized as supported with WB Presets and Noise Profile but no Custom Matrix. your difficulty is undoubtedly local. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] user.css file question
* David Vincent-Jones [05-08-22 14:10]: > This is the location where I have mine located on both systems but on the > rebuilt machine the color scheme is totally different. > > Thanks for your idea Patrick ... I will run dt without the user.css and see > if it repairs correctly. > > David > > On 2022-05-08 10:25, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * David Vincent-Jones [05-08-22 13:06]: > > > On a new (Manjaro/Arch/git) system build my backup of the user.css file > > > appears to be incorrect. I find that I have apparently several versions > > > located in the /.config/darktable folder and I m not even sure which one > > > is > > > functioning. None are satisfactory. > > on linux, the correct user css file would be: > > ~/.config/darktable/user.css > > > My second system is displaying correctly the recent amended file with the > > > 'orange' highlights but copying over the user.css file from that system > > > did > > > not solve the problem. > > have no idea to what you refer ??? > > > > > Any idea where to look and fix the problem? > > no. > > > > I can provide my user.css if you wish, or you can run dt w/o a user.css > > and it should be fine. > > > > note: dt recreates missing configuration files when started: > > ~/.config/darktable/ > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org I don't understand "repairs correctly". dt on start will recreate necessary config files, but I am sure it will not interrogate your system to make "corrections". and I do not believe that "user.css" is a necessary file unless *you* plan on making css changes on your box. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] extract_wb_from_images error
* Jean-Luc [05-08-22 13:19]: > Hello, > > I decided to contribute and followed the instructions so as to get the wb > presets for Nikon D4s cameras. > I first could not find the script in no place on both the computers I am > currently using, so I downloaded it directly from github. > Unfortunately, when I launch it it ends with an error message : > ligne 7: erreur de syntaxe près du symbole inattendu « newline » > ligne 7: `` > Would I have missed something ? you did not provide the version of dt and dt is a moving target? the provided script appears for me on openSUSE Tumbleweed at /data/darktable/tools/extract_wb_from_images.sh and completes w/o error Extracting WB presets. preparing tarball... cleaning up... Extracting wb presets done, post the following file to us: /home/paka/darktable-whitebalance-20220508.tar.gz and I cannot read/translate other than English. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] user.css file question
* David Vincent-Jones [05-08-22 13:06]:
> On a new (Manjaro/Arch/git) system build my backup of the user.css file
> appears to be incorrect. I find that I have apparently several versions
> located in the /.config/darktable folder and I m not even sure which one is
> functioning. None are satisfactory.
on linux, the correct user css file would be:
~/.config/darktable/user.css
> My second system is displaying correctly the recent amended file with the
> 'orange' highlights but copying over the user.css file from that system did
> not solve the problem.
have no idea to what you refer ???
> Any idea where to look and fix the problem?
no.
I can provide my user.css if you wish, or you can run dt w/o a user.css
and it should be fine.
note: dt recreates missing configuration files when started:
~/.config/darktable/
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Re: [darktable-user] Question regarding .svg watermarks comparing Windows and Ubuntu Linux
* Top Rock Photography [05-04-22 16:40]: > Thank you, Michael. I also thought that was clear. > > To respond to the other two and give clarity; the penultimate paragraph > says, “I should have made a bug report….” > > That suggests that the last paragraph is referring to me making that bug > report, to make the amazing team aware of the problem, (and why it needs a > fix and not a workaround). > > Sincerely, > > Karim Hosein > Top Rock Photography > 754.999.1652 > > > > On Wed, 4 May 2022 at 16:15, Michael wrote: > > > Gee I read that as he was going to issue a report. > > > > On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 3:19 PM Remco Viëtor > > wrote: > > > >> On mercredi 4 mai 2022 02:38:36 CEST Top Rock Photography wrote: > >> > The issue has nothing to do with Windows, nor fonts, and everything to > >> do > >> > with darktable. > >> > I have only used Linux for the last umpteen years, and I had created > >> some > >> > watermarks —in Linux— to use with darktable. Everything was fine until > >> the > >> > 3.x branch. (may have been earlier). > >> > > >> > All my text, which looks great in any other SVG viewer, and used to look > >> > great in darktable, now has overlapping characters. Converting the text > >> to > >> > a curve does not work, since the majority of my text is dynamic. $Title, > >> > $Description, $date, $sequence-number, etc. > >> > > >> > I should have made a bug report, but, due to the excellent team at > >> > darktable, I kept telling myself, “no problem, boss, dem soon fix dis.” > >> > > >> > Well, I think that it is time for a bug report. > >> > >> Then what's stopping you? > >> > >> *We* cannot do it for you, as we don't know exactly what you did/didn't > >> do, > >> nor do we know your system. > >> > >> And your mail certainly doesn't give enough info for a decent bug > >> report... > >> > >> Remco > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> darktable user mailing list > >> to unsubscribe send a mail to > >> darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > >> > >> > > > > -- > > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > so you want a bug report but cannot be bothered? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Question regarding .svg watermarks comparing Windows and Ubuntu Linux
* Top Rock Photography [05-03-22 20:47]: > Both previous images were created in darktable; one in 2017, the other just > now. > > Sincerely, > > Karim Hosein > Top Rock Photography > 754.999.1652 > > > > On Tue, 3 May 2022 at 20:38, Top Rock Photography < > ka...@toprockphotography.com> wrote: > > > The issue has nothing to do with Windows, nor fonts, and everything to do > > with darktable. > > I have only used Linux for the last umpteen years, and I had created some > > watermarks —in Linux— to use with darktable. Everything was fine until the > > 3.x branch. (may have been earlier). > > > > All my text, which looks great in any other SVG viewer, and used to look > > great in darktable, now has overlapping characters. Converting the text to > > a curve does not work, since the majority of my text is dynamic. $Title, > > $Description, $date, $sequence-number, etc. > > > > I should have made a bug report, but, due to the excellent team at > > darktable, I kept telling myself, “no problem, boss, dem soon fix dis.” > > > > Well, I think that it is time for a bug report. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Karim Hosein > > Top Rock Photography > > 754.999.1652 > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > it's on you: https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/new/choose -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Question regarding .svg watermarks comparing Windows and Ubuntu Linux
* Top Rock Photography [05-03-22 20:42]: > The issue has nothing to do with Windows, nor fonts, and everything to do > with darktable. > I have only used Linux for the last umpteen years, and I had created some > watermarks —in Linux— to use with darktable. Everything was fine until the > 3.x branch. (may have been earlier). > > All my text, which looks great in any other SVG viewer, and used to look > great in darktable, now has overlapping characters. Converting the text to > a curve does not work, since the majority of my text is dynamic. $Title, > $Description, $date, $sequence-number, etc. > > I should have made a bug report, but, due to the excellent team at > darktable, I kept telling myself, “no problem, boss, dem soon fix dis.” > > Well, I think that it is time for a bug report. > > Sincerely, > > Karim Hosein > Top Rock Photography > 754.999.1652 > > > > On Mon, 28 Feb 2022 at 21:43, Willy Williams wrote: > > > Question: > > > > I have some .svg watermark files that were generated in Inkscape on > > the Windows machines. They work superbly when applied using darktable > > on the Windows machines. When I copy those same .svg files to the Linux > > machine and put them in the correct place, then open them using the > > Inkscape instance on the Linux machine, there is no apparent difference, > > compared to the same files opened in Inkscape on the Windows machines. > > That said, when I apply the .svg file watermarks to any image using > > darktable on the Linux machine, the graphic "signature" is represented > > perfectly, but the text portion is significantly shrunk side-to-side, > > but only when applied using darktable. Anybody have ideas regarding the > > issue? Are there any fonts that do NOT work right when migrated from > > Windows to Linux? Inquiring minds want to know... > > > > Willy Williams > > > > -- > > > > "When a photo of a person looks deep into your spirit and tells you a > > thousand stories ... > > stories from your past even before you existed, then the photo is way > > above any description." > > > > - Sameh Elsayed > > > > -- > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > ________ > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > *you* can do it and here is the place. be sure to provide the requested information: https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/new/choose -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Reinstall of module presets
* David Vincent-Jones [04-30-22 14:01]: > In a fresh build I have copied over the /.config/dartable backup files over > to the new system but I am not seeing any of my module presets. Is there > something that I am missing? I don't know, but presets are stored in ~/.config/darktable/data.db -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Git build failure
* David Vincent-Jones [04-29-22 00:40]: > I am building a new system from scratch and have the following failure: > > Cloning into bare repository > '/var/tmp/pamac-build-david/darktable-git/whereami'... > fatal: unable to access 'https://github.com/gpakosz/whereami/': Could not > resolve host: github.com > ==> ERROR: Failure while downloading whereami git repo > Aborting... > Failed to build darktable-git > > Any ideas? why are you cloning "whereami" to build darktable? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Relocating Picture folder
* David Vincent-Jones [04-28-22 19:58]: > I am making a fresh install on a system with the O/S going onto a small fast > drive and want to put the pictures onto a large slower storage medium. > > Is it necessary to move the entire /home folder to the larger drive no > or can I simply relocate the Pictures folder? yes, but the photos do not have to be in the Pictures folder as long as you tell dt where to find them. > Can dt find images on a secondary drive? certainly. My photos are not even on a drive local to my workstation. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Watermark - text does not appear on image
* Alex Delaforce <123.adelafo...@gmail.com> [04-21-22 23:25]: > Hi, > Running latest available non-dev release on linux (EndeavourOS - arch base) > - 3.8.1 > > When I add a simple text watermark, the text disappears from the darktable > image as soon as I change it from the standard text to my text. I have > tried changing the colour, the scale and moving the x and y sliders but > cannot see the simple text watermark. > > The text that's been added sometimes reappears when the software is closed > and reopened. > Just now I added text to one image - text not visible > Closed and reopened dt - text visible in dt view > Changed to a different image and added text watermark - the watermark from > the first image not visible. > > Rendered jpegs of the two images above do not show a text watermark. > If I now go back to dt, one of the image previews in lighttable grid view > shows a watermark the other doesn't - the one that shows doesn't show the > watermark in darkroom view. The one that doesn't show the added watermark > in lighttable view does show in darkroom view. > > I had a similar issue in a previous version - I think it was 3.6.x but I > can't remember if this was rectified during the dot-point updates for the > version. > > Does anyone have a similar issue or any suggestions - could it be my linux > distro (arch in the form of EndeavourOS)? you should file a bug report: https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/new/choose -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
