Re: [datameet] Public consultation on Government Open Data Use License - India

[srinivas kodali]

I missed submissions from factly
https://www.mygov.in//comment/97345381/#comment-97345381/

Regards,
Srinivas Kodali
www.lostprogrammer.com
*"Not everyone who wanders is lost, I am probably a bit"*

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 12:29 AM, srinivas kodali 
wrote:

> So the notable submissions are as follows and please upvote them.
>
> Submissions from medianama:
> https://www.mygov.in//comment/97350511/#comment-97350511/
> Submissions from CIS:
> https://www.mygov.in//comment/97349731/#comment-97349731/
> Submissions from Datameet:
> https://www.mygov.in//comment/97348141/#comment-97348141/
> Submissions from India Open Data Association:
> https://www.mygov.in//comment/97347081/#comment-97347081/
>
> These were my comments which didn't get uploaded at the last minute and
> turned into a blog post. Since the submissions are now over I am actually
> contesting the implementation of the policy itself as it is slow and is
> flawed at several stages. We need to look into several other issues from
> now. thoughts?
>
>
> http://www.lostprogrammer.com/blog/comments-on-national-data-sharing-policy-and-license/
>
>
> Regards,
> Srinivas Kodali
> www.lostprogrammer.com
> *"Not everyone who wanders is lost, I am probably a bit"*
>
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 6:52 PM, Thejesh GN  wrote:
>
>> I made some small edits and posted it.
>>
>> https://www.mygov.in//comment/97348141/#comment-97348141/
>>
>> 1. Please do a thumbs up
>> 2. If something is not covered in our common submission. Please make a
>> personal submission and share the link on this thread.
>> 3. Today is the last day.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thej
>> --
>> Thejesh GN *⏚* ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್
>> http://thejeshgn.com
>> GPG ID :  0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0
>>
>> On 25 July 2016 at 16:51, srinivas kodali  wrote:
>>
>>> Are you finalizing it? need any other help? can you share the final copy
>>> before it gets uploaded.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Srinivas Kodali
>>> www.lostprogrammer.com
>>> *"Not everyone who wanders is lost, I am probably a bit"*
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Thejesh GN  wrote:
>>>
 Today is the last day. I want to send/upload  datameet letter. Can you
 guys help me review the letter.

 I have the initial letter on the top of hackpad document. I have
 updated it, using the comments from the community.

 I am planning to publish around 4pm. Please comment on the letter
 before 3pm.

 Thej

 On Jul 24, 2016 9:31 PM, "srinivas kodali" 
 wrote:

 I have some serious concerns with the type of comments being received
 on mygov on this subject.

- Most people want the data to be closed. Weird as it might sound,
sensitive data should be closed. These guys want everything closed and 
 only
gives access when you authenticate yourself (aadhaarifying everything).
This violates the RTI act of requesting data without providing any other
information apart from basic contact information.
- Fortunately people want warranty of data. Which makes sense.
- There were also few concerns about the making authorities liable
too. Clearly you don't want them to release private data like your 
 personal
details.

 Over all, number of comments requesting some form of authentication is
 high. Can some of you request the otherwise as you see fit, I know
 sometimes the numbers matter. Tomorrow 25th July is the last day to submit
 the suggestions.


 Regards,
 Srinivas Kodali
 www.lostprogrammer.com
 *"Not everyone who wanders is lost, I am probably a bit"*

 On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 12:12 AM, Craig Dsouza 
 wrote:

> Added my comments on the hackpad.
> Agree with Dev about the use of insignia,seals etc. There isn't a
> clear reason why this should be forbidden as long as the seals are
> published along with the dataset it should be ok
> Also on Gora's point, non-exclusive should not preclude commercial use
> of data.
>
> With respect to information containing identity it is more tricky. My
> initial thoughts were
> I don't think we can completely argue for no exemptions, without
> giving a clear reason why not. Because we have to ensure personally
> identifying information is kept out. Since this license applies to
> non-digital data as well, its scope is much wider than data.gov.in.
> People may be given documents by government offices where a person'
> identity is difficult to obscure. In this case even I would support that
> the user who has obtained this data shouldn't publish it openly, but he
> should have the right to access, use, adapt the data. The only place I can
> imagine where personally identifying information is vital is if someone is
> gathering information that could criminally incriminate someone. In this
> case I honestly don't know what is appropriate because publishing identity
> is vital to e

Re: [datameet] Public consultation on Government Open Data Use License - India

[srinivas kodali]

So the notable submissions are as follows and please upvote them.

Submissions from medianama:
https://www.mygov.in//comment/97350511/#comment-97350511/
Submissions from CIS:
https://www.mygov.in//comment/97349731/#comment-97349731/
Submissions from Datameet:
https://www.mygov.in//comment/97348141/#comment-97348141/
Submissions from India Open Data Association:
https://www.mygov.in//comment/97347081/#comment-97347081/

These were my comments which didn't get uploaded at the last minute and
turned into a blog post. Since the submissions are now over I am actually
contesting the implementation of the policy itself as it is slow and is
flawed at several stages. We need to look into several other issues from
now. thoughts?

http://www.lostprogrammer.com/blog/comments-on-national-data-sharing-policy-and-license/


Regards,
Srinivas Kodali
www.lostprogrammer.com
*"Not everyone who wanders is lost, I am probably a bit"*

On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 6:52 PM, Thejesh GN  wrote:

> I made some small edits and posted it.
>
> https://www.mygov.in//comment/97348141/#comment-97348141/
>
> 1. Please do a thumbs up
> 2. If something is not covered in our common submission. Please make a
> personal submission and share the link on this thread.
> 3. Today is the last day.
>
>
>
>
> Thej
> --
> Thejesh GN *⏚* ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್
> http://thejeshgn.com
> GPG ID :  0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0
>
> On 25 July 2016 at 16:51, srinivas kodali  wrote:
>
>> Are you finalizing it? need any other help? can you share the final copy
>> before it gets uploaded.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Srinivas Kodali
>> www.lostprogrammer.com
>> *"Not everyone who wanders is lost, I am probably a bit"*
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Thejesh GN  wrote:
>>
>>> Today is the last day. I want to send/upload  datameet letter. Can you
>>> guys help me review the letter.
>>>
>>> I have the initial letter on the top of hackpad document. I have updated
>>> it, using the comments from the community.
>>>
>>> I am planning to publish around 4pm. Please comment on the letter before
>>> 3pm.
>>>
>>> Thej
>>>
>>> On Jul 24, 2016 9:31 PM, "srinivas kodali" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have some serious concerns with the type of comments being received on
>>> mygov on this subject.
>>>
>>>- Most people want the data to be closed. Weird as it might sound,
>>>sensitive data should be closed. These guys want everything closed and 
>>> only
>>>gives access when you authenticate yourself (aadhaarifying everything).
>>>This violates the RTI act of requesting data without providing any other
>>>information apart from basic contact information.
>>>- Fortunately people want warranty of data. Which makes sense.
>>>- There were also few concerns about the making authorities liable
>>>too. Clearly you don't want them to release private data like your 
>>> personal
>>>details.
>>>
>>> Over all, number of comments requesting some form of authentication is
>>> high. Can some of you request the otherwise as you see fit, I know
>>> sometimes the numbers matter. Tomorrow 25th July is the last day to submit
>>> the suggestions.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Srinivas Kodali
>>> www.lostprogrammer.com
>>> *"Not everyone who wanders is lost, I am probably a bit"*
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 12:12 AM, Craig Dsouza 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Added my comments on the hackpad.
 Agree with Dev about the use of insignia,seals etc. There isn't a clear
 reason why this should be forbidden as long as the seals are published
 along with the dataset it should be ok
 Also on Gora's point, non-exclusive should not preclude commercial use
 of data.

 With respect to information containing identity it is more tricky. My
 initial thoughts were
 I don't think we can completely argue for no exemptions, without giving
 a clear reason why not. Because we have to ensure personally identifying
 information is kept out. Since this license applies to non-digital data as
 well, its scope is much wider than data.gov.in. People may be given
 documents by government offices where a person' identity is difficult to
 obscure. In this case even I would support that the user who has obtained
 this data shouldn't publish it openly, but he should have the right to
 access, use, adapt the data. The only place I can imagine where personally
 identifying information is vital is if someone is gathering information
 that could criminally incriminate someone. In this case I honestly don't
 know what is appropriate because publishing identity is vital to exposing
 the crime.

 On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 3:39:44 PM UTC+5:30, Thejesh GN wrote:
>
> I will add it there on monday.
> On Jul 14, 2016 3:28 PM, "Sitansu Mahapatra" 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Thejesh
>>
>> Hope you have contributed the same at
>> https://www.mygov.in/group-issue/public-consultation-government-open-data-use-license-india
>> comment box.

Re: [datameet] Public consultation on Government Open Data Use License - India

[Thejesh GN]

I made some small edits and posted it.

https://www.mygov.in//comment/97348141/#comment-97348141/

1. Please do a thumbs up
2. If something is not covered in our common submission. Please make a
personal submission and share the link on this thread.
3. Today is the last day.




Thej
--
Thejesh GN *⏚* ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್
http://thejeshgn.com
GPG ID :  0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0

On 25 July 2016 at 16:51, srinivas kodali  wrote:

> Are you finalizing it? need any other help? can you share the final copy
> before it gets uploaded.
>
> Regards,
> Srinivas Kodali
> www.lostprogrammer.com
> *"Not everyone who wanders is lost, I am probably a bit"*
>
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Thejesh GN  wrote:
>
>> Today is the last day. I want to send/upload  datameet letter. Can you
>> guys help me review the letter.
>>
>> I have the initial letter on the top of hackpad document. I have updated
>> it, using the comments from the community.
>>
>> I am planning to publish around 4pm. Please comment on the letter before
>> 3pm.
>>
>> Thej
>>
>> On Jul 24, 2016 9:31 PM, "srinivas kodali"  wrote:
>>
>> I have some serious concerns with the type of comments being received on
>> mygov on this subject.
>>
>>- Most people want the data to be closed. Weird as it might sound,
>>sensitive data should be closed. These guys want everything closed and 
>> only
>>gives access when you authenticate yourself (aadhaarifying everything).
>>This violates the RTI act of requesting data without providing any other
>>information apart from basic contact information.
>>- Fortunately people want warranty of data. Which makes sense.
>>- There were also few concerns about the making authorities liable
>>too. Clearly you don't want them to release private data like your 
>> personal
>>details.
>>
>> Over all, number of comments requesting some form of authentication is
>> high. Can some of you request the otherwise as you see fit, I know
>> sometimes the numbers matter. Tomorrow 25th July is the last day to submit
>> the suggestions.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Srinivas Kodali
>> www.lostprogrammer.com
>> *"Not everyone who wanders is lost, I am probably a bit"*
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 12:12 AM, Craig Dsouza 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Added my comments on the hackpad.
>>> Agree with Dev about the use of insignia,seals etc. There isn't a clear
>>> reason why this should be forbidden as long as the seals are published
>>> along with the dataset it should be ok
>>> Also on Gora's point, non-exclusive should not preclude commercial use
>>> of data.
>>>
>>> With respect to information containing identity it is more tricky. My
>>> initial thoughts were
>>> I don't think we can completely argue for no exemptions, without giving
>>> a clear reason why not. Because we have to ensure personally identifying
>>> information is kept out. Since this license applies to non-digital data as
>>> well, its scope is much wider than data.gov.in. People may be given
>>> documents by government offices where a person' identity is difficult to
>>> obscure. In this case even I would support that the user who has obtained
>>> this data shouldn't publish it openly, but he should have the right to
>>> access, use, adapt the data. The only place I can imagine where personally
>>> identifying information is vital is if someone is gathering information
>>> that could criminally incriminate someone. In this case I honestly don't
>>> know what is appropriate because publishing identity is vital to exposing
>>> the crime.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 3:39:44 PM UTC+5:30, Thejesh GN wrote:

 I will add it there on monday.
 On Jul 14, 2016 3:28 PM, "Sitansu Mahapatra" 
 wrote:

> Hi Thejesh
>
> Hope you have contributed the same at
> https://www.mygov.in/group-issue/public-consultation-government-open-data-use-license-india
> comment box.
>
> Regards,
> Sitansu
>
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Thejesh GN 
> wrote:
>
>> I have updated the document. My only comment was
>>
>> Section 6.  I think as a license it should talk about only how a
>> dataset licensed under such a license can be used and as such license
>> should not be defining what data can be included or excluded. I think 
>> that
>> "inclusion/exclusion of datasets/points" should be a part of data sharing
>> policy and not license.
>>
>> I might need to rewrite that paragraph ...
>>
>> Please add or edit to the hackpad
>> 
>> so we can send i can submit on monday.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thej
>> --
>> Thejesh GN *⏚* ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್
>> http://thejeshgn.com
>> GPG ID :  0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0
>>
>> On 4 July 2016 at 09:45, Thejesh GN  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I have the hackpad at
>>>
>>> https://datameet.

Re: [datameet] Public consultation on Government Open Data Use License - India

[srinivas kodali]

Are you finalizing it? need any other help? can you share the final copy
before it gets uploaded.

Regards,
Srinivas Kodali
www.lostprogrammer.com
*"Not everyone who wanders is lost, I am probably a bit"*

On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Thejesh GN  wrote:

> Today is the last day. I want to send/upload  datameet letter. Can you
> guys help me review the letter.
>
> I have the initial letter on the top of hackpad document. I have updated
> it, using the comments from the community.
>
> I am planning to publish around 4pm. Please comment on the letter before
> 3pm.
>
> Thej
>
> On Jul 24, 2016 9:31 PM, "srinivas kodali"  wrote:
>
> I have some serious concerns with the type of comments being received on
> mygov on this subject.
>
>- Most people want the data to be closed. Weird as it might sound,
>sensitive data should be closed. These guys want everything closed and only
>gives access when you authenticate yourself (aadhaarifying everything).
>This violates the RTI act of requesting data without providing any other
>information apart from basic contact information.
>- Fortunately people want warranty of data. Which makes sense.
>- There were also few concerns about the making authorities liable
>too. Clearly you don't want them to release private data like your personal
>details.
>
> Over all, number of comments requesting some form of authentication is
> high. Can some of you request the otherwise as you see fit, I know
> sometimes the numbers matter. Tomorrow 25th July is the last day to submit
> the suggestions.
>
>
> Regards,
> Srinivas Kodali
> www.lostprogrammer.com
> *"Not everyone who wanders is lost, I am probably a bit"*
>
> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 12:12 AM, Craig Dsouza 
> wrote:
>
>> Added my comments on the hackpad.
>> Agree with Dev about the use of insignia,seals etc. There isn't a clear
>> reason why this should be forbidden as long as the seals are published
>> along with the dataset it should be ok
>> Also on Gora's point, non-exclusive should not preclude commercial use of
>> data.
>>
>> With respect to information containing identity it is more tricky. My
>> initial thoughts were
>> I don't think we can completely argue for no exemptions, without giving a
>> clear reason why not. Because we have to ensure personally identifying
>> information is kept out. Since this license applies to non-digital data as
>> well, its scope is much wider than data.gov.in. People may be given
>> documents by government offices where a person' identity is difficult to
>> obscure. In this case even I would support that the user who has obtained
>> this data shouldn't publish it openly, but he should have the right to
>> access, use, adapt the data. The only place I can imagine where personally
>> identifying information is vital is if someone is gathering information
>> that could criminally incriminate someone. In this case I honestly don't
>> know what is appropriate because publishing identity is vital to exposing
>> the crime.
>>
>> On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 3:39:44 PM UTC+5:30, Thejesh GN wrote:
>>>
>>> I will add it there on monday.
>>> On Jul 14, 2016 3:28 PM, "Sitansu Mahapatra" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Thejesh

 Hope you have contributed the same at
 https://www.mygov.in/group-issue/public-consultation-government-open-data-use-license-india
 comment box.

 Regards,
 Sitansu

 On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Thejesh GN  wrote:

> I have updated the document. My only comment was
>
> Section 6.  I think as a license it should talk about only how a
> dataset licensed under such a license can be used and as such license
> should not be defining what data can be included or excluded. I think that
> "inclusion/exclusion of datasets/points" should be a part of data sharing
> policy and not license.
>
> I might need to rewrite that paragraph ...
>
> Please add or edit to the hackpad
> 
> so we can send i can submit on monday.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thej
> --
> Thejesh GN *⏚* ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್
> http://thejeshgn.com
> GPG ID :  0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0
>
> On 4 July 2016 at 09:45, Thejesh GN  wrote:
>
>>
>> I have the hackpad at
>>
>> https://datameet.hackpad.com/Public-consultation-on-Government-Open-Data-Use-License-India-PyLEZDHW1v7
>>
>>
>> I will collect all the feedback until 14th and will post it on 15th
>> so we will have enough time to upvote.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thej
>> --
>> Thejesh GN *⏚* ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್
>> http://thejeshgn.com
>> GPG ID :  0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0
>>
>> On 28 June 2016 at 12:58, Anant Gupta  wrote:
>>
>>> When we say in point 6.f. that "Identity Documents" are barred from
>>> being licensed, does that cover any sort of name

Re: [datameet] Public consultation on Government Open Data Use License - India

[Thejesh GN]

Today is the last day. I want to send/upload  datameet letter. Can you guys
help me review the letter.

I have the initial letter on the top of hackpad document. I have updated
it, using the comments from the community.

I am planning to publish around 4pm. Please comment on the letter before
3pm.

Thej

On Jul 24, 2016 9:31 PM, "srinivas kodali"  wrote:

I have some serious concerns with the type of comments being received on
mygov on this subject.

   - Most people want the data to be closed. Weird as it might sound,
   sensitive data should be closed. These guys want everything closed and only
   gives access when you authenticate yourself (aadhaarifying everything).
   This violates the RTI act of requesting data without providing any other
   information apart from basic contact information.
   - Fortunately people want warranty of data. Which makes sense.
   - There were also few concerns about the making authorities liable too.
   Clearly you don't want them to release private data like your personal
   details.

Over all, number of comments requesting some form of authentication is
high. Can some of you request the otherwise as you see fit, I know
sometimes the numbers matter. Tomorrow 25th July is the last day to submit
the suggestions.


Regards,
Srinivas Kodali
www.lostprogrammer.com
*"Not everyone who wanders is lost, I am probably a bit"*

On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 12:12 AM, Craig Dsouza  wrote:

> Added my comments on the hackpad.
> Agree with Dev about the use of insignia,seals etc. There isn't a clear
> reason why this should be forbidden as long as the seals are published
> along with the dataset it should be ok
> Also on Gora's point, non-exclusive should not preclude commercial use of
> data.
>
> With respect to information containing identity it is more tricky. My
> initial thoughts were
> I don't think we can completely argue for no exemptions, without giving a
> clear reason why not. Because we have to ensure personally identifying
> information is kept out. Since this license applies to non-digital data as
> well, its scope is much wider than data.gov.in. People may be given
> documents by government offices where a person' identity is difficult to
> obscure. In this case even I would support that the user who has obtained
> this data shouldn't publish it openly, but he should have the right to
> access, use, adapt the data. The only place I can imagine where personally
> identifying information is vital is if someone is gathering information
> that could criminally incriminate someone. In this case I honestly don't
> know what is appropriate because publishing identity is vital to exposing
> the crime.
>
> On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 3:39:44 PM UTC+5:30, Thejesh GN wrote:
>>
>> I will add it there on monday.
>> On Jul 14, 2016 3:28 PM, "Sitansu Mahapatra" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Thejesh
>>>
>>> Hope you have contributed the same at
>>> https://www.mygov.in/group-issue/public-consultation-government-open-data-use-license-india
>>> comment box.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Sitansu
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Thejesh GN  wrote:
>>>
 I have updated the document. My only comment was

 Section 6.  I think as a license it should talk about only how a
 dataset licensed under such a license can be used and as such license
 should not be defining what data can be included or excluded. I think that
 "inclusion/exclusion of datasets/points" should be a part of data sharing
 policy and not license.

 I might need to rewrite that paragraph ...

 Please add or edit to the hackpad
 
 so we can send i can submit on monday.








 Thej
 --
 Thejesh GN *⏚* ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್
 http://thejeshgn.com
 GPG ID :  0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0

 On 4 July 2016 at 09:45, Thejesh GN  wrote:

>
> I have the hackpad at
>
> https://datameet.hackpad.com/Public-consultation-on-Government-Open-Data-Use-License-India-PyLEZDHW1v7
>
>
> I will collect all the feedback until 14th and will post it on 15th so
> we will have enough time to upvote.
>
>
>
>
> Thej
> --
> Thejesh GN *⏚* ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್
> http://thejeshgn.com
> GPG ID :  0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0
>
> On 28 June 2016 at 12:58, Anant Gupta  wrote:
>
>> When we say in point 6.f. that "Identity Documents" are barred from
>> being licensed, does that cover any sort of names
>> I mean if i am able to collect a list of students in a school along
>> with their attributes, will it violate this section?
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 11:41:24 AM UTC+5:30, srinivas kodali
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I understand this is a consultation only for data.gov.in, but the
>>> policy is for every department. Departments like ISRO, Customs maintain
>>> their own portals

Re: [datameet] Public consultation on Government Open Data Use License - India

[srinivas kodali]

I have some serious concerns with the type of comments being received on
mygov on this subject.

   - Most people want the data to be closed. Weird as it might sound,
   sensitive data should be closed. These guys want everything closed and only
   gives access when you authenticate yourself (aadhaarifying everything).
   This violates the RTI act of requesting data without providing any other
   information apart from basic contact information.
   - Fortunately people want warranty of data. Which makes sense.
   - There were also few concerns about the making authorities liable too.
   Clearly you don't want them to release private data like your personal
   details.

Over all, number of comments requesting some form of authentication is
high. Can some of you request the otherwise as you see fit, I know
sometimes the numbers matter. Tomorrow 25th July is the last day to submit
the suggestions.


Regards,
Srinivas Kodali
www.lostprogrammer.com
*"Not everyone who wanders is lost, I am probably a bit"*

On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 12:12 AM, Craig Dsouza  wrote:

> Added my comments on the hackpad.
> Agree with Dev about the use of insignia,seals etc. There isn't a clear
> reason why this should be forbidden as long as the seals are published
> along with the dataset it should be ok
> Also on Gora's point, non-exclusive should not preclude commercial use of
> data.
>
> With respect to information containing identity it is more tricky. My
> initial thoughts were
> I don't think we can completely argue for no exemptions, without giving a
> clear reason why not. Because we have to ensure personally identifying
> information is kept out. Since this license applies to non-digital data as
> well, its scope is much wider than data.gov.in. People may be given
> documents by government offices where a person' identity is difficult to
> obscure. In this case even I would support that the user who has obtained
> this data shouldn't publish it openly, but he should have the right to
> access, use, adapt the data. The only place I can imagine where personally
> identifying information is vital is if someone is gathering information
> that could criminally incriminate someone. In this case I honestly don't
> know what is appropriate because publishing identity is vital to exposing
> the crime.
>
> On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 3:39:44 PM UTC+5:30, Thejesh GN wrote:
>>
>> I will add it there on monday.
>> On Jul 14, 2016 3:28 PM, "Sitansu Mahapatra" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Thejesh
>>>
>>> Hope you have contributed the same at
>>> https://www.mygov.in/group-issue/public-consultation-government-open-data-use-license-india
>>> comment box.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Sitansu
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Thejesh GN  wrote:
>>>
 I have updated the document. My only comment was

 Section 6.  I think as a license it should talk about only how a
 dataset licensed under such a license can be used and as such license
 should not be defining what data can be included or excluded. I think that
 "inclusion/exclusion of datasets/points" should be a part of data sharing
 policy and not license.

 I might need to rewrite that paragraph ...

 Please add or edit to the hackpad
 
 so we can send i can submit on monday.








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 On 4 July 2016 at 09:45, Thejesh GN  wrote:

>
> I have the hackpad at
>
> https://datameet.hackpad.com/Public-consultation-on-Government-Open-Data-Use-License-India-PyLEZDHW1v7
>
>
> I will collect all the feedback until 14th and will post it on 15th so
> we will have enough time to upvote.
>
>
>
>
> Thej
> --
> Thejesh GN *⏚* ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್
> http://thejeshgn.com
> GPG ID :  0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0
>
> On 28 June 2016 at 12:58, Anant Gupta  wrote:
>
>> When we say in point 6.f. that "Identity Documents" are barred from
>> being licensed, does that cover any sort of names
>> I mean if i am able to collect a list of students in a school along
>> with their attributes, will it violate this section?
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 11:41:24 AM UTC+5:30, srinivas kodali
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I understand this is a consultation only for data.gov.in, but the
>>> policy is for every department. Departments like ISRO, Customs maintain
>>> their own portals to publish large scale data. The license needs be a 
>>> bit
>>> universal and can't be confined to only data.gov.in.
>>>
>>> Getting each dept. to publish it's own license would be a tedious
>>> task itself. This would potentially apply to all documents being 
>>> published
>>> by government, then yes their is a risk of stumbl

[datameet] Public Consultation on Government Open Data Use License - India

[Shree D N]

http://jan-sampark.nic.in/jansampark/images/campaign/2016/20-Jul/OGD/index.html

Public consultation on Government Open Data Use License - India through
MyGov

#OpenDataLicense, #OpenDataLicenseIndia

Dear Sir/Madam

Under 6th Pillar of Digital India Initiative, Open Government Data Platform
India (data.gov.in) is an endeavor for sharing of Government data in open
formats with an objective to improve openness, transparency, encouraging
participation of the community and emphasizing data driven decision making
to enable the delivery of integrated services.

Structured and machine readable data available in open format and open
license, for public access and use, termed as "Open Data". It allows
citizens and businesses to find new ways to use it and to create new
innovative products and services.

Open data should be accessible and licensed for anyone to access, use and
share. A License gives clarity that data can be used and shared for
multiple purposes and gives explicit permission to use the data for
commercial and non-commercial purposes. With this view, Government of India
initiate to have an Open Government Data Use License.

A committee was formed to draft the Government Open Data Use License India.
And after several round of discussions and deliberations the Committee
under the chairmanship of Sh. Suresh Chandra, Law Secretary Department of
Legal Affairs has finalized the draft of the license.

General public and stake-holders including open data community members,
professionals, academicians, data scientists, NGOs, institutions,
government bodies, etc. in the field of open data production, consumption
and management are hereby solicited to send their suggestions on draft
Government Open Data Use License - India at:
https://www.mygov.in/group-issue/public-consultation-government-open-data-use-license-india

Submit Your Suggestions in MyGov

You are requested to type your suggestion in the given box of the
discussion (http://bit.ly/opendatalicence).

Please mention the Clause number on which you want to suggest. Please put a
'#' sign before the Clause number.

You can refer the following example: #Clause4: Followed by your Suggestion

>You can also upload a pdf file compiling all your suggestions.
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Re: [datameet] Public consultation on Government Open Data Use License - India

[Craig Dsouza]

Added my comments on the hackpad.
Agree with Dev about the use of insignia,seals etc. There isn't a clear 
reason why this should be forbidden as long as the seals are published 
along with the dataset it should be ok
Also on Gora's point, non-exclusive should not preclude commercial use of 
data.

With respect to information containing identity it is more tricky. My 
initial thoughts were
I don't think we can completely argue for no exemptions, without giving a 
clear reason why not. Because we have to ensure personally identifying 
information is kept out. Since this license applies to non-digital data as 
well, its scope is much wider than data.gov.in. People may be given 
documents by government offices where a person' identity is difficult to 
obscure. In this case even I would support that the user who has obtained 
this data shouldn't publish it openly, but he should have the right to 
access, use, adapt the data. The only place I can imagine where personally 
identifying information is vital is if someone is gathering information 
that could criminally incriminate someone. In this case I honestly don't 
know what is appropriate because publishing identity is vital to exposing 
the crime.

On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 3:39:44 PM UTC+5:30, Thejesh GN wrote:
>
> I will add it there on monday. 
> On Jul 14, 2016 3:28 PM, "Sitansu Mahapatra"  > wrote:
>
>> Hi Thejesh
>>
>> Hope you have contributed the same at 
>> https://www.mygov.in/group-issue/public-consultation-government-open-data-use-license-india
>>  
>> comment box.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sitansu
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Thejesh GN > > wrote:
>>
>>> I have updated the document. My only comment was 
>>>
>>> Section 6.  I think as a license it should talk about only how a dataset 
>>> licensed under such a license can be used and as such license should not be 
>>> defining what data can be included or excluded. I think that 
>>> "inclusion/exclusion of datasets/points" should be a part of data sharing 
>>> policy and not license.  
>>>
>>> I might need to rewrite that paragraph ...
>>>
>>> Please add or edit to the hackpad 
>>> 
>>>   
>>> so we can send i can submit on monday.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thej
>>> --
>>> Thejesh GN *⏚* ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್
>>> http://thejeshgn.com
>>> GPG ID :  0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0
>>>
>>> On 4 July 2016 at 09:45, Thejesh GN > 
>>> wrote:
>>>

 I have the hackpad at

 https://datameet.hackpad.com/Public-consultation-on-Government-Open-Data-Use-License-India-PyLEZDHW1v7


 I will collect all the feedback until 14th and will post it on 15th so 
 we will have enough time to upvote. 




 Thej
 --
 Thejesh GN *⏚* ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್
 http://thejeshgn.com
 GPG ID :  0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0

 On 28 June 2016 at 12:58, Anant Gupta >>> > wrote:

> When we say in point 6.f. that "Identity Documents" are barred from 
> being licensed, does that cover any sort of names
> I mean if i am able to collect a list of students in a school along 
> with their attributes, will it violate this section?
>
> On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 11:41:24 AM UTC+5:30, srinivas kodali 
> wrote:
>>
>> I understand this is a consultation only for data.gov.in, but the 
>> policy is for every department. Departments like ISRO, Customs maintain 
>> their own portals to publish large scale data. The license needs be a 
>> bit 
>> universal and can't be confined to only data.gov.in. 
>>
>> Getting each dept. to publish it's own license would be a tedious 
>> task itself. This would potentially apply to all documents being 
>> published 
>> by government, then yes their is a risk of stumbling upon personal 
>> information which shouldn't be published on the web in the first place.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Srinivas Kodali
>> www.lostprogrammer.com
>> *"Not everyone who wanders is lost, I am probably a bit"*
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Gora Mohanty  
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 28 June 2016 at 10:19, Devdatta Tengshe  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 IMNAL, but Overall this license looks quite ok, except for 6.c & 6.e

>>>
>>> 6.c and 6.e specifically do not seem too worrisome to me, but the 
>>> entirety of point 6 is kind of strange: where are datasets that have 
>>> personal information, patent/trademark infringements, and that the 
>>> provider 
>>> is not licensed to supply coming from? Is the GoI saying that should 
>>> the 
>>> datasets on data.gov.in include such data, it is the user's job to 
>>> exclude them.
>>>
>>> Also, 3a seems a little vague to me: what are "non-exclusive 
>>> processes"? Suppose I have a website that uses such data, and requires 
>>> users to log in to see the

Re: [datameet] Public consultation on Government Open Data Use License - India

[Thejesh GN]

I will add it there on monday.
On Jul 14, 2016 3:28 PM, "Sitansu Mahapatra" 
wrote:

> Hi Thejesh
>
> Hope you have contributed the same at
> https://www.mygov.in/group-issue/public-consultation-government-open-data-use-license-india
> comment box.
>
> Regards,
> Sitansu
>
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Thejesh GN  wrote:
>
>> I have updated the document. My only comment was
>>
>> Section 6.  I think as a license it should talk about only how a dataset
>> licensed under such a license can be used and as such license should not be
>> defining what data can be included or excluded. I think that
>> "inclusion/exclusion of datasets/points" should be a part of data sharing
>> policy and not license.
>>
>> I might need to rewrite that paragraph ...
>>
>> Please add or edit to the hackpad
>> 
>> so we can send i can submit on monday.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thej
>> --
>> Thejesh GN *⏚* ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್
>> http://thejeshgn.com
>> GPG ID :  0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0
>>
>> On 4 July 2016 at 09:45, Thejesh GN  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I have the hackpad at
>>>
>>> https://datameet.hackpad.com/Public-consultation-on-Government-Open-Data-Use-License-India-PyLEZDHW1v7
>>>
>>>
>>> I will collect all the feedback until 14th and will post it on 15th so
>>> we will have enough time to upvote.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thej
>>> --
>>> Thejesh GN *⏚* ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್
>>> http://thejeshgn.com
>>> GPG ID :  0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0
>>>
>>> On 28 June 2016 at 12:58, Anant Gupta  wrote:
>>>
 When we say in point 6.f. that "Identity Documents" are barred from
 being licensed, does that cover any sort of names
 I mean if i am able to collect a list of students in a school along
 with their attributes, will it violate this section?

 On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 11:41:24 AM UTC+5:30, srinivas kodali
 wrote:
>
> I understand this is a consultation only for data.gov.in, but the
> policy is for every department. Departments like ISRO, Customs maintain
> their own portals to publish large scale data. The license needs be a bit
> universal and can't be confined to only data.gov.in.
>
> Getting each dept. to publish it's own license would be a tedious task
> itself. This would potentially apply to all documents being published by
> government, then yes their is a risk of stumbling upon personal 
> information
> which shouldn't be published on the web in the first place.
>
> Regards,
> Srinivas Kodali
> www.lostprogrammer.com
> *"Not everyone who wanders is lost, I am probably a bit"*
>
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Gora Mohanty 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 28 June 2016 at 10:19, Devdatta Tengshe 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> IMNAL, but Overall this license looks quite ok, except for 6.c & 6.e
>>>
>>
>> 6.c and 6.e specifically do not seem too worrisome to me, but the
>> entirety of point 6 is kind of strange: where are datasets that have
>> personal information, patent/trademark infringements, and that the 
>> provider
>> is not licensed to supply coming from? Is the GoI saying that should the
>> datasets on data.gov.in include such data, it is the user's job to
>> exclude them.
>>
>> Also, 3a seems a little vague to me: what are "non-exclusive
>> processes"? Suppose I have a website that uses such data, and requires
>> users to log in to see the data: is that exclusive?
>>
>> All, in all, kudos to data.gov.in for taking a huge step forward in
>> making their data accessible.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Gora
>>
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Re: [datameet] Public consultation on Government Open Data Use License - India

[Sitansu Mahapatra]

Hi Thejesh

Hope you have contributed the same at
https://www.mygov.in/group-issue/public-consultation-government-open-data-use-license-india
comment box.

Regards,
Sitansu

On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Thejesh GN  wrote:

> I have updated the document. My only comment was
>
> Section 6.  I think as a license it should talk about only how a dataset
> licensed under such a license can be used and as such license should not be
> defining what data can be included or excluded. I think that
> "inclusion/exclusion of datasets/points" should be a part of data sharing
> policy and not license.
>
> I might need to rewrite that paragraph ...
>
> Please add or edit to the hackpad
> 
> so we can send i can submit on monday.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thej
> --
> Thejesh GN *⏚* ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್
> http://thejeshgn.com
> GPG ID :  0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0
>
> On 4 July 2016 at 09:45, Thejesh GN  wrote:
>
>>
>> I have the hackpad at
>>
>> https://datameet.hackpad.com/Public-consultation-on-Government-Open-Data-Use-License-India-PyLEZDHW1v7
>>
>>
>> I will collect all the feedback until 14th and will post it on 15th so we
>> will have enough time to upvote.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thej
>> --
>> Thejesh GN *⏚* ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್
>> http://thejeshgn.com
>> GPG ID :  0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0
>>
>> On 28 June 2016 at 12:58, Anant Gupta  wrote:
>>
>>> When we say in point 6.f. that "Identity Documents" are barred from
>>> being licensed, does that cover any sort of names
>>> I mean if i am able to collect a list of students in a school along with
>>> their attributes, will it violate this section?
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 11:41:24 AM UTC+5:30, srinivas kodali wrote:

 I understand this is a consultation only for data.gov.in, but the
 policy is for every department. Departments like ISRO, Customs maintain
 their own portals to publish large scale data. The license needs be a bit
 universal and can't be confined to only data.gov.in.

 Getting each dept. to publish it's own license would be a tedious task
 itself. This would potentially apply to all documents being published by
 government, then yes their is a risk of stumbling upon personal information
 which shouldn't be published on the web in the first place.

 Regards,
 Srinivas Kodali
 www.lostprogrammer.com
 *"Not everyone who wanders is lost, I am probably a bit"*

 On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Gora Mohanty 
 wrote:

>
>
> On 28 June 2016 at 10:19, Devdatta Tengshe  wrote:
>
>> IMNAL, but Overall this license looks quite ok, except for 6.c & 6.e
>>
>
> 6.c and 6.e specifically do not seem too worrisome to me, but the
> entirety of point 6 is kind of strange: where are datasets that have
> personal information, patent/trademark infringements, and that the 
> provider
> is not licensed to supply coming from? Is the GoI saying that should the
> datasets on data.gov.in include such data, it is the user's job to
> exclude them.
>
> Also, 3a seems a little vague to me: what are "non-exclusive
> processes"? Suppose I have a website that uses such data, and requires
> users to log in to see the data: is that exclusive?
>
> All, in all, kudos to data.gov.in for taking a huge step forward in
> making their data accessible.
>
> Regards,
> Gora
>
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Re: [datameet] Public consultation on Government Open Data Use License - India

[Thejesh GN]

I have updated the document. My only comment was

Section 6.  I think as a license it should talk about only how a dataset
licensed under such a license can be used and as such license should not be
defining what data can be included or excluded. I think that
"inclusion/exclusion of datasets/points" should be a part of data sharing
policy and not license.

I might need to rewrite that paragraph ...

Please add or edit to the hackpad

so we can send i can submit on monday.








Thej
--
Thejesh GN *⏚* ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್
http://thejeshgn.com
GPG ID :  0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0

On 4 July 2016 at 09:45, Thejesh GN  wrote:

>
> I have the hackpad at
>
> https://datameet.hackpad.com/Public-consultation-on-Government-Open-Data-Use-License-India-PyLEZDHW1v7
>
>
> I will collect all the feedback until 14th and will post it on 15th so we
> will have enough time to upvote.
>
>
>
>
> Thej
> --
> Thejesh GN *⏚* ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್
> http://thejeshgn.com
> GPG ID :  0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0
>
> On 28 June 2016 at 12:58, Anant Gupta  wrote:
>
>> When we say in point 6.f. that "Identity Documents" are barred from being
>> licensed, does that cover any sort of names
>> I mean if i am able to collect a list of students in a school along with
>> their attributes, will it violate this section?
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 11:41:24 AM UTC+5:30, srinivas kodali wrote:
>>>
>>> I understand this is a consultation only for data.gov.in, but the
>>> policy is for every department. Departments like ISRO, Customs maintain
>>> their own portals to publish large scale data. The license needs be a bit
>>> universal and can't be confined to only data.gov.in.
>>>
>>> Getting each dept. to publish it's own license would be a tedious task
>>> itself. This would potentially apply to all documents being published by
>>> government, then yes their is a risk of stumbling upon personal information
>>> which shouldn't be published on the web in the first place.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Srinivas Kodali
>>> www.lostprogrammer.com
>>> *"Not everyone who wanders is lost, I am probably a bit"*
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Gora Mohanty 
>>> wrote:
>>>


 On 28 June 2016 at 10:19, Devdatta Tengshe  wrote:

> IMNAL, but Overall this license looks quite ok, except for 6.c & 6.e
>

 6.c and 6.e specifically do not seem too worrisome to me, but the
 entirety of point 6 is kind of strange: where are datasets that have
 personal information, patent/trademark infringements, and that the provider
 is not licensed to supply coming from? Is the GoI saying that should the
 datasets on data.gov.in include such data, it is the user's job to
 exclude them.

 Also, 3a seems a little vague to me: what are "non-exclusive
 processes"? Suppose I have a website that uses such data, and requires
 users to log in to see the data: is that exclusive?

 All, in all, kudos to data.gov.in for taking a huge step forward in
 making their data accessible.

 Regards,
 Gora

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Re: [datameet] Public consultation on Government Open Data Use License - India

[Thejesh GN]

I have the hackpad at
https://datameet.hackpad.com/Public-consultation-on-Government-Open-Data-Use-License-India-PyLEZDHW1v7


I will collect all the feedback until 14th and will post it on 15th so we
will have enough time to upvote.




Thej
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http://thejeshgn.com
GPG ID :  0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0

On 28 June 2016 at 12:58, Anant Gupta  wrote:

> When we say in point 6.f. that "Identity Documents" are barred from being
> licensed, does that cover any sort of names
> I mean if i am able to collect a list of students in a school along with
> their attributes, will it violate this section?
>
> On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 11:41:24 AM UTC+5:30, srinivas kodali wrote:
>>
>> I understand this is a consultation only for data.gov.in, but the policy
>> is for every department. Departments like ISRO, Customs maintain their own
>> portals to publish large scale data. The license needs be a bit universal
>> and can't be confined to only data.gov.in.
>>
>> Getting each dept. to publish it's own license would be a tedious task
>> itself. This would potentially apply to all documents being published by
>> government, then yes their is a risk of stumbling upon personal information
>> which shouldn't be published on the web in the first place.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Srinivas Kodali
>> www.lostprogrammer.com
>> *"Not everyone who wanders is lost, I am probably a bit"*
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Gora Mohanty 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 28 June 2016 at 10:19, Devdatta Tengshe  wrote:
>>>
 IMNAL, but Overall this license looks quite ok, except for 6.c & 6.e

>>>
>>> 6.c and 6.e specifically do not seem too worrisome to me, but the
>>> entirety of point 6 is kind of strange: where are datasets that have
>>> personal information, patent/trademark infringements, and that the provider
>>> is not licensed to supply coming from? Is the GoI saying that should the
>>> datasets on data.gov.in include such data, it is the user's job to
>>> exclude them.
>>>
>>> Also, 3a seems a little vague to me: what are "non-exclusive processes"?
>>> Suppose I have a website that uses such data, and requires users to log in
>>> to see the data: is that exclusive?
>>>
>>> All, in all, kudos to data.gov.in for taking a huge step forward in
>>> making their data accessible.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Gora
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Re: [datameet] Public consultation on Government Open Data Use License - India

[Anant Gupta]

When we say in point 6.f. that "Identity Documents" are barred from being 
licensed, does that cover any sort of names
I mean if i am able to collect a list of students in a school along with 
their attributes, will it violate this section?

On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 11:41:24 AM UTC+5:30, srinivas kodali wrote:
>
> I understand this is a consultation only for data.gov.in, but the policy 
> is for every department. Departments like ISRO, Customs maintain their own 
> portals to publish large scale data. The license needs be a bit universal 
> and can't be confined to only data.gov.in. 
>
> Getting each dept. to publish it's own license would be a tedious task 
> itself. This would potentially apply to all documents being published by 
> government, then yes their is a risk of stumbling upon personal information 
> which shouldn't be published on the web in the first place.
>
> Regards,
> Srinivas Kodali
> www.lostprogrammer.com
> *"Not everyone who wanders is lost, I am probably a bit"*
>
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Gora Mohanty  > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 28 June 2016 at 10:19, Devdatta Tengshe > > wrote:
>>
>>> IMNAL, but Overall this license looks quite ok, except for 6.c & 6.e
>>>
>>
>> 6.c and 6.e specifically do not seem too worrisome to me, but the 
>> entirety of point 6 is kind of strange: where are datasets that have 
>> personal information, patent/trademark infringements, and that the provider 
>> is not licensed to supply coming from? Is the GoI saying that should the 
>> datasets on data.gov.in include such data, it is the user's job to 
>> exclude them.
>>
>> Also, 3a seems a little vague to me: what are "non-exclusive processes"? 
>> Suppose I have a website that uses such data, and requires users to log in 
>> to see the data: is that exclusive?
>>
>> All, in all, kudos to data.gov.in for taking a huge step forward in 
>> making their data accessible.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Gora
>>
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Re: [datameet] Public consultation on Government Open Data Use License - India

[srinivas kodali]

I understand this is a consultation only for data.gov.in, but the policy is
for every department. Departments like ISRO, Customs maintain their own
portals to publish large scale data. The license needs be a bit universal
and can't be confined to only data.gov.in.

Getting each dept. to publish it's own license would be a tedious task
itself. This would potentially apply to all documents being published by
government, then yes their is a risk of stumbling upon personal information
which shouldn't be published on the web in the first place.

Regards,
Srinivas Kodali
www.lostprogrammer.com
*"Not everyone who wanders is lost, I am probably a bit"*

On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Gora Mohanty  wrote:

>
>
> On 28 June 2016 at 10:19, Devdatta Tengshe  wrote:
>
>> IMNAL, but Overall this license looks quite ok, except for 6.c & 6.e
>>
>
> 6.c and 6.e specifically do not seem too worrisome to me, but the entirety
> of point 6 is kind of strange: where are datasets that have personal
> information, patent/trademark infringements, and that the provider is not
> licensed to supply coming from? Is the GoI saying that should the datasets
> on data.gov.in include such data, it is the user's job to exclude them.
>
> Also, 3a seems a little vague to me: what are "non-exclusive processes"?
> Suppose I have a website that uses such data, and requires users to log in
> to see the data: is that exclusive?
>
> All, in all, kudos to data.gov.in for taking a huge step forward in
> making their data accessible.
>
> Regards,
> Gora
>
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Re: [datameet] Public consultation on Government Open Data Use License - India

[Gora Mohanty]

On 28 June 2016 at 10:19, Devdatta Tengshe  wrote:

> IMNAL, but Overall this license looks quite ok, except for 6.c & 6.e
>

6.c and 6.e specifically do not seem too worrisome to me, but the entirety
of point 6 is kind of strange: where are datasets that have personal
information, patent/trademark infringements, and that the provider is not
licensed to supply coming from? Is the GoI saying that should the datasets
on data.gov.in include such data, it is the user's job to exclude them.

Also, 3a seems a little vague to me: what are "non-exclusive processes"?
Suppose I have a website that uses such data, and requires users to log in
to see the data: is that exclusive?

All, in all, kudos to data.gov.in for taking a huge step forward in making
their data accessible.

Regards,
Gora

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Re: [datameet] Public consultation on Government Open Data Use License - India

[Devdatta Tengshe]

IMNAL, but Overall this license looks quite ok, except for 6.c & 6.e

Does anyone have any idea why they have kept these two things out of
OpenData? As long as you don't use them to claim that these organizations
endorse you, I would wants that people should be able to use them to depict
the organization.

I remember that several years ago, the FBI had an issue with wikipedia
using their bureau's seal in its encyclopedia entry.
http://mashable.com/2010/08/03/wikipedia-fbi-seal/#G7lfD.XyKuqj

Something similar might happen, if these symbols/emblems are out of public
domain.

Regards,
Devdatta

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 8:33 PM, Thejesh GN  wrote:

> Hi All,
> Draft license for data sets on data.gov.in  is open for public comments.
> I am yet to go through it in detail. This thread is for discussion
>
>
> https://www.mygov.in/group-issue/public-consultation-government-open-data-use-license-india/
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[datameet] Public consultation on Government Open Data Use License - India

[Thejesh GN]

Hi All,
Draft license for data sets on data.gov.in  is open for public comments. I
am yet to go through it in detail. This thread is for discussion

https://www.mygov.in/group-issue/public-consultation-government-open-data-use-license-india/

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