Re: recommend a netbook for Debian deployment?

2013-11-06 Thread Luc Verhaegen
On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 05:19:51AM +, Mikhail Ramendik wrote: > - On 7 November 2013 04:41, Luc Verhaegen wrote: > > >> While the open hardware projects are very interesting, anytime soon I > >> can only get the dx.com etc Chinese stuff. And the netbooks that have > >> things I like (HDMI, 1

Re: recommend a netbook for Debian deployment?

2013-11-06 Thread Mikhail Ramendik
- On 7 November 2013 04:41, Luc Verhaegen wrote: >> While the open hardware projects are very interesting, anytime soon I >> can only get the dx.com etc Chinese stuff. And the netbooks that have >> things I like (HDMI, 1 GB RAM) tend to be based o the VIA 8850. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W

Re: recommend a netbook for Debian deployment?

2013-11-06 Thread Luc Verhaegen
On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 11:16:05PM +, Mikhail Ramendik wrote: > On 6 November 2013 23:06, Luc Verhaegen wrote: > > >> Cool. But I guess the A10 GPU (Mali400) is pretty basic compared to > >> the aforementioned PowerVR? > > > > Not really. Mali400 is a pretty respectable package still, > > Th

Re: Porting for dummies?

2013-11-06 Thread Paul Wise
I'm subscribed, no need to CC me. On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Mikhail Ramendik wrote: > Well, I can temporarily install the binary blobs, can't I? These ones: > http://linux-sunxi.org/Binary_drivers . They even have a rebuilt package > specifically for debian. I know I'm on my own re stabilit

Re: Porting for dummies?

2013-11-06 Thread Mikhail Ramendik
On 7 November 2013 01:30, Paul Wise wrote: > > Debian's version of OpenGL is called Mesa and it supports normal > OpenGL on armel too, it would not be hardware-accelerated yet though > because there aren't any free drivers for that in Debian. Same goes > for hardware-acceleration of OpenGLES on

Re: Porting for dummies?

2013-11-06 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 7:17 AM, Mikhail Ramendik wrote: > Is there a tutorial/doc/manual anywhere on porting OpenGL code to > OpenGLES, and ideally also on cross-compiling for ARM+OpenGLES under > Debian, so that I could try to do it even before I get any real ARM > hardware? (It seems, from discu

Porting for dummies?

2013-11-06 Thread Mikhail Ramendik
Hello, Is there a tutorial/doc/manual anywhere on porting OpenGL code to OpenGLES, and ideally also on cross-compiling for ARM+OpenGLES under Debian, so that I could try to do it even before I get any real ARM hardware? (It seems, from discussions here, that there might be interesting options a fe

Re: recommend a netbook for Debian deployment?

2013-11-06 Thread Mikhail Ramendik
On 6 November 2013 23:06, Luc Verhaegen wrote: >> Cool. But I guess the A10 GPU (Mali400) is pretty basic compared to >> the aforementioned PowerVR? > > Not really. Mali400 is a pretty respectable package still, Thanks! And speaking of this - is it true that the VIA 8850 also has Mali400, and ho

Re: recommend a netbook for Debian deployment?

2013-11-06 Thread Luc Verhaegen
On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 07:08:38PM +, Mikhail Ramendik wrote: > On 6 November 2013 18:45, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > Cool. But I guess the A10 GPU (Mali400) is pretty basic compared to > the aforementioned PowerVR? Not really. Mali400 is a pretty respectable package still, and i

Re: recommend a netbook for Debian deployment?

2013-11-06 Thread Luc Verhaegen
On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 10:32:01PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Mikhail Ramendik wrote: > > >> yeees, that CPU Card runs debian. first thing i installed when i got it :) > > > > Cool. But I guess the A10 GPU (Mali400) is pretty basic compared to >

Re: recommend a netbook for Debian deployment?

2013-11-06 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 7:38 PM, Mikhail Ramendik wrote: > On 6 November 2013 19:26, Lennart Sorensen > wrote: >>> Wait, is PowerVR rebranded as Intel HD Graphics? I'm getting confused >>> - again probably my fault (just trying to understand how stuff works). >> >> No intel calls it the GMA500.

Re: recommend a netbook for Debian deployment?

2013-11-06 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Mikhail Ramendik wrote: >> no. you don't. *do not* get *anything* that has imgtec PowerVR. >> ask anyone who's worked with intel embedded atom SoCs. ask anyone >> who's had an intel atom laptop with a PowerVR GPU. > > Wait, is PowerVR rebranded as Intel HD Grap

Re: recommend a netbook for Debian deployment?

2013-11-06 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 07:38:49PM +, Mikhail Ramendik wrote: > I don't *want* them, but I do want performance. And I'm somewhat used > to them, although in the previous hardware the reason was simply > pushing to the limits and overheating. > > Which means there is a working open source driver

Re: recommend a netbook for Debian deployment?

2013-11-06 Thread Mikhail Ramendik
On 6 November 2013 19:38, Mikhail Ramendik wrote: >>> Wait, is PowerVR rebranded as Intel HD Graphics? I'm getting confused >>> - again probably my fault (just trying to understand how stuff works). >> >> No intel calls it the GMA500. > > Which means there is a working open source driver? My sinc

Re: recommend a netbook for Debian deployment?

2013-11-06 Thread Mikhail Ramendik
On 6 November 2013 19:26, Lennart Sorensen wrote: >> ...funnily, I do. My main aim (hypothetical for now, I'm only looking >> at feasibility) would be to port a Second Life viewer. I'm likely to >> get crashes after a few hours of heavy use anyway for quite some time >> - if it is stable for an h

Re: recommend a netbook for Debian deployment?

2013-11-06 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 07:08:38PM +, Mikhail Ramendik wrote: > ...funnily, I do. My main aim (hypothetical for now, I'm only looking > at feasibility) would be to port a Second Life viewer. I'm likely to > get crashes after a few hours of heavy use anyway for quite some time > - if it is stabl

Re: recommend a netbook for Debian deployment?

2013-11-06 Thread Mikhail Ramendik
On 6 November 2013 18:45, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >> The 1040 looks nice. It is out of my planned budget, but the 9.7 inch screen >> (non-widescreen) would mean I get more use out of it s a tablet too. (I >> really only need a tablet as a reader - for everything else I prefer a >> key

Re: recommend a netbook for Debian deployment?

2013-11-06 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Mikhail Ramendik wrote: > On 6 November 2013 15:01, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton > wrote: >> >> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Wookey wrote: >> >> > These people support linux on cheap tablets: >> > https://pengpod.com/products >> > (dual boot with android - linu

Re: recommend a netbook for Debian deployment?

2013-11-06 Thread Mikhail Ramendik
On 6 November 2013 15:01, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Wookey wrote: > > > These people support linux on cheap tablets: > > https://pengpod.com/products > > (dual boot with android - linux on the SD, but a lot more open than most > > random hardware you ca

Re: Qt5 switching qreal from float to double on arm*

2013-11-06 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
On Wednesday 06 November 2013 17:40:11 Pino Toscano wrote: > In data sabato 2 novembre 2013 15:29:05, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez > > Meyer ha scritto: > > Hi! Starting from Qt 5.2.0 (most probably from rc1 and definitely not > > from beta1 currently in experimental) Qt5 will switch qreal from >

Re: Qt5 switching qreal from float to double on arm*

2013-11-06 Thread Pino Toscano
In data sabato 2 novembre 2013 15:29:05, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer ha scritto: > Hi! Starting from Qt 5.2.0 (most probably from rc1 and definitely not > from beta1 currently in experimental) Qt5 will switch qreal from > float to double on arm*. Did upstream bump the SONAME of QtCore5 an

Re: Debian 7.0 on Dreamplug basic installation and booting system external sd card

2013-11-06 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Ian Campbell [2013-11-04 11:02]: > > Looking at #667681, I see that your original patch put the files in > > /boot but Loïc suggested otherwise. I don't agree with Loïc's > > rationale but I guess I'm 1.5 years late... > > > > If people think it's too late to change the behaviour now, I think

Re: Removing lvm and crypto from rootfs

2013-11-06 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Björn Wetterbom [2013-11-06 09:34]: > I have updated /etc/fstab and replaced all occurrences of /dev/mapper/vg-lv > with the UUIDs of the partitions. However, after running update-initramfs > -u, it still tries to boot from my old lvm, which obviously fails. There is > something more than /etc/f

Re: recommend a netbook for Debian deployment?

2013-11-06 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Wookey wrote: > These people support linux on cheap tablets: > https://pengpod.com/products > (dual boot with android - linux on the SD, but a lot more open than most > random hardware you can buy) ah that's neal. yeah i'm deeply impressed by neal's entrepreneur

Re: recommend a netbook for Debian deployment?

2013-11-06 Thread Wookey
+++ Mikhail Ramendik [2013-11-05 21:39 +]: > Hello, > > Sites like DX.com have very nice small netbooks with specs I like - > notably, 1 GB RAM and HDMI (so they can be used with a separate > monitor when at home). Most of them are based on VIA 8850, and all of > them run Android. I don't want

Re: recommend a netbook for Debian deployment?

2013-11-06 Thread Paul Breneman
On 11/05/2013 10:37 PM, Mikhail Ramendik wrote: On 6 November 2013 02:17, Paul Wise wrote: I would very much appreciate recommendation of a particular model where someone has already succeeded in deploying Debian. Google Chromebooks appear to be popular, some info about them here: https://w

RE: Debian on thecus N2560

2013-11-06 Thread Brian Platt
> > Brian wasn't talking about the Debian ARM ports though, just about > Debian in general. > > Brian, the Thecus N2560 uses an Intel CPU (Atom) like a normal > PC/laptop. So you can probably just boot the Debian installer linked > from the front page of the Debian website. It depends on if the B

Removing lvm and crypto from rootfs

2013-11-06 Thread Björn Wetterbom
Hello list! I'm having an issue with my sheevaplug. Previously it booted off an encrypted lvm. I have now rsynced the entire rootfs to a standard partition on a usb stick and I am trying to get it to boot. My strategy is to update the initramfs from a chroot, inspired by this: http://www.cyrius.c