* Chris Tillman
| sure. Note that this is part of the ?consistency and polish? thing,
| it's not needed for d-i to actually be able to do it's work. It's
| needed in order not to confuse the user.
|
| My .02: By definition the installer is most new users' first contact
| with Debian. We
* Junichi Uekawa
| Tollef Fog Heen [EMAIL PROTECTED] immo vero scripsit:
|
| | Are you saying that every debconf template file should be in UTF-8?
| | How do you propose to accomplish the transition ?
|
| Every debconf template which is used in d-i, yes. Why not? It
| shouldn't be that
* (Denis Barbier)
| I do not understand your answer, sorry.
ok, we'll try again. :)
| Consider the cvs/pserver template from cvs.templates:
| Template: cvs/pserver
| Type: boolean
| Default: false
| Description: Should the CVS pserver be enabled?
| [...]
|CVS pserver will be
On Tue, 2002-05-28 at 12:39, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
* Junichi Uekawa
| Last time I looked, there is no charset signifier in
| debconf templates, how does one know if the template is in
| utf-8 or euc-jp?
You don't need to do that if we decide that everything is utf8. And
since d-i won't
* Philip Blundell
(please respect my mail-followup-to)
| On Tue, 2002-05-28 at 12:39, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
| * Junichi Uekawa
| | Last time I looked, there is no charset signifier in
| | debconf templates, how does one know if the template is in
| | utf-8 or euc-jp?
|
| You don't
On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 01:42:28PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
* (Denis Barbier)
| I do not understand your answer, sorry.
ok, we'll try again. :)
| Consider the cvs/pserver template from cvs.templates:
| Template: cvs/pserver
| Type: boolean
| Default: false
|
Tollef Fog Heen [EMAIL PROTECTED] immo vero scripsit:
The units we are working with in debian-installer are udebs (really
policy (why would we want docs and man pages on the installation
media?).
Ah good. I forgot about udebs.
The maintainer might have to maintain both utf8 and non-utf8
Denis Barbier wrote:
Consider the cvs/pserver template from cvs.templates:
Template: cvs/pserver
Type: boolean
Default: false
Description: Should the CVS pserver be enabled?
[...]
CVS pserver will be installed in inetd, using tcpd wrappers if you answer
yes to this
* Joey Hess
| Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
| | As you may or may not know, I will no longer have a position of
| | responsibility in the installation system after Woody. Joey Hess has
| | volunteer for this position, or at least he did about 18 months ago.
| | I assume he's still for it --
* Junichi Uekawa
| Last time I checked (which is a long long time ago), debconf had a
| design problem with utf-8 (the debconf templates are not in utf-8,
| and it is not automatically obvious which character code they are in).
| Does cdebconf inherit the same problem? Does it convert to utf-8
On 27 May 2002 13:29:35 +0200
Tollef Fog Heen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The charset in the templates are undefined, but if we decide that we
want it to be UTF-8 then that won't be a problem. (Just a small
policy decision.) The frontend would have to know how to convert it
into something
* Junichi Uekawa
| On 27 May 2002 13:29:35 +0200
| Tollef Fog Heen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|
| The charset in the templates are undefined, but if we decide that we
| want it to be UTF-8 then that won't be a problem. (Just a small
| policy decision.) The frontend would have to know how to
On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 01:29:35PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
[...]
Right now there is a ncurses and a slang frontend, I am not sure of
the state of those, but it should be possible to link the better of
them against something-utf8 or create a newt-utf8 frontend.
It would also be desirable
* (Denis Barbier)
| On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 01:29:35PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
| [...]
| Right now there is a ncurses and a slang frontend, I am not sure of
| the state of those, but it should be possible to link the better of
| them against something-utf8 or create a newt-utf8
On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 03:14:26PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
* (Denis Barbier)
| On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 01:29:35PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
| [...]
| Right now there is a ncurses and a slang frontend, I am not sure of
| the state of those, but it should be possible to link the
On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 11:06:26PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
[...]
In order to avoid this annoyance, I suggested to only accept i18n-ed
frontends.
This suggestion does only make sense for interactive frontends, of course.
Denis
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On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 11:14:15PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 11:06:26PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
[...]
In order to avoid this annoyance, I suggested to only accept i18n-ed
frontends.
This suggestion does only make sense for interactive frontends, of course.
Tollef Fog Heen [EMAIL PROTECTED] immo vero scripsit:
| Are you saying that every debconf template file should be in UTF-8?
| How do you propose to accomplish the transition ?
Every debconf template which is used in d-i, yes. Why not? It
shouldn't be that many templates. The others can
* Junichi Uekawa
| On 23 May 2002 10:31:32 +0200
| Tollef Fog Heen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|
| I think we should move to debian-installer, even though it will take
| longer time to work out. People want to do some new development, d-i
| is getting closer to working (as in actually being
* Christian T. Steigies
| On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 10:31:32AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
|
| I think we should move to debian-installer, even though it will take
| longer time to work out. People want to do some new development, d-i
| is getting closer to working (as in actually being
Tollef Fog Heen [EMAIL PROTECTED] immo vero scripsit:
| I've had zero look at debian-installer.
| I wonder if it would have CJK support.
| Proper CJK support is a very difficult thing to achieve...
It uses cdebconf as the frontend, and if somebody makes sure the bogl
frontend is actually
On 23 May 2002 10:31:32 +0200
Tollef Fog Heen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think we should move to debian-installer, even though it will take
longer time to work out. People want to do some new development, d-i
is getting closer to working (as in actually being able to install
systems in a
* Adam Di Carlo
| Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
|
| I just wanted to give y'all a heads up that I'd like you all to stick
| around post woody, and keep/start working on CDs and installation stuff
| for the next release. This doesn't change anything about debian-installer,
| it'd
Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
| As you may or may not know, I will no longer have a position of
| responsibility in the installation system after Woody. Joey Hess has
| volunteer for this position, or at least he did about 18 months ago.
| I assume he's still for it -- hopefully the folks on this
Hi guys,
I just wanted to give y'all a heads up that I'd like you all to stick
around post woody, and keep/start working on CDs and installation stuff
for the next release. This doesn't change anything about debian-installer,
it'd just be helpful if you don't all wander off for four to six
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