he has to format the
Harddisk.
It's probably too late to say this, but I had problems with this attitude
recently.
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I've written a script to create base.tgz for diskless package.
It just runs debootstrap and runs tar.
What do guys think about this?
perhaps it would be prudent to merge that with my script to build
basedebs tarballs.
Anyway, this
On Fri, 07 Dec 2001 21:16:55 +
Philip Blundell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So what's the status on this now? Is anybody still suffering from the
flashing screen syndrome, or has that finally been laid to rest?
I've checked the boot-floppies on ~aph, from 6 Dec, and
it seems to be working.
on end of day 2/Dec/2001.
My impression running the compact image was that
the screen just keeps on flashing, when after busybox starts.
(under bochs).
But maybe something else is wrong on my setup.
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It seems to be the case with ja_JP.UTF-8.
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would obviously be even better.
Getting latin1 work inside bterm would not be enough,
because EUC-JP doesn't work inside bterm (AFAIK).
Thus, the most workable solution would be to get
modconf to be UTF-8 enabled.
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Japanese translation updates and fixes. It is up-to-date, again.
Last time I looked, the Japanese string for the language chooser itself
(the one that says You have chosen Japanese - press Enter to continue)
didn't
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translated dbootstrap/langs/japanese.src
I've noticed that I've left the English text too...
so the initial screen has too many characters, and it does not fit on the screen (80
chars).
I'll fix it tonight
= ]; then
+rm -f $m1/dists/$SUITE/Release
rm -f $m1/dists/$SUITE/Release
should be better.
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checkdiff(index.$lang.html.m4,index.en.html.m4);
+checkdiff(dselect-beginner.$lang.sgml,dselect-beginner.sgml);
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Hi.
bella5
bella5 prgn/Make Debian Floppy/, -- prgn/Make Debian Floppy/prgn,
bella5 I thought it was a valid sgml.
bella5
bella5 I do not know format SGML. I repeat in the shape of question:
bella5
Hi,
Manoj told me on IRC that apt-utils is not on the first CD-Rom.
debootstrap seems to want apt-utils, and apt-utils is optional.
Something needs fixing, either debootstrap, or apt-utils.
comments?
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CC'd to debian-cd, because that's probably the relevant list.
The following script checks for validity of priority/section (and
I think this is what should be done, please tell me if something looks wrong
On Wed, 2 Jan 2002 11:39:30 +0100
Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I didn't understand Junichi's message as this is what is already done
for debian-cd (although we must manually update a task file to make it
true).
Junichi, what were you trying to do ?
Okay, I didn't notice.
By
whether he was using the latest version.
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Why is it not enough to specify 'utf-8' in here ?
for lang in what:
if do_convert:
e = engine ('utf-8', lang.charset)
else:
e = do_not_convert ()
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outfile.write ('NULL,\n')
outfile.write ('NULL,\n')
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There are several points which could do that.
And also please tell us what architecture, and
which version of boot-floppies you are using.
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ended).
er... are we talking about boxProgress() in utilities/dbootstrap/boxes.c ?
It seems like newt is the one needing some massaging, at first glance.
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I'm getting ready to commit my changes that make anna and main-menu
share Packages-file parsing code. They do so by a function in libd-i.
This means that if you want to build anna or main-menu after I've
committed, you first have to build and install the new
On 02 Sep 2002 16:48:05 +0200
I've added the build-dep, but I don't get a versioned binary depend.
Hmm. Come to think of it, why doesn't libd-i have the SONAME in the
package name?
Yes, this is a very badly packaged shared library.
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There was no response to this request on the debian-powerpc list, I
guess it really belongs to debian-boot (cc'd).
Since the consensus is that the current prep and chrp kernels which
we supply as part of
On Wed, 4 Sep 2002 09:30:32 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Denis Barbier) wrote:
But where must PO files go?
There are at least 2 ways:
* all messages in a central place (debian-installer/po/ or
debian-installer/libdebian-installer/po/ so that PO catalogs may
be shipped with
Hi,
I don't know if it's really a feasible solution, or what people had in mind, but
I had a quick-hack into what might be udebootstrap, IMO.
This application takes in a predetermined directory filled with udebs and debs,
and extract them using tar, ar, and zcat.
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-floppies in
respect to i18n.
boot-floppies worked around the size constraints by loading
locale information from file on CD-Rom, if it was available.
(xlp.tgz).
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not 100% up to speed on what the single floppy is supposed to
be able to do (bootstrap for systems that can't boot from CDs and
netinstall I suppose, but what else?)
El-torito bootable CD image ?
Are we still using 2.88MB image is used for booting from the CD-Rom?
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| For floppy installs, why not plan on having a floppy version available
| in each language rather than trying to do a multilingual floppy?
Because we will then have a zillion different floppies to choose from?
On 09 Sep 2002 09:07:47 +0200
Also, a pretty standard policy when translating things is to try not to
change the meaning of the text.
Huh? I only want to change the default value, how does it have an impact
on the meaning of the text?
Changing the default value changes the
ISO-8859-? for most european countries, EUC-JP in Japan,
and so on.
Not what your environment variable holds.
Hmm. I meant to ask whether or am I cursed with Latin1 because I happen
to live in western Europe? (but I must've forgotten it somehow) which
it seems I am. So my conversion
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On Mon, Sep 09, 2002 at 03:36:58PM +0200, Marcin Owsiany wrote:
[...]
- for debs (base system), we:
* make the templates.ll files in whatever encoding
* either recode them or not when concatening
[...]
On Mon, 9 Sep 2002 15:36:58 +0200
Marcin Owsiany [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1. Am I right that cdebconf handles the templates in debian-installer?
2. Is this possible on all architectures? I mean: do all architectures
use framebuffer?
That also means that bterm will be Essential in
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- for udebs, we:
* make the templates.ll files in whatever encoding we like
* recode (say using iconv) the templates.ll to UTF-8 when creating
the combined templates file
* simply copy the strings
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My plan was to add support to debconf to use iconv to convert to
nl_langinfo(CODESET), from the template encoding (which is legacy
ISO-8859-whatever, or EUC-whatever).
That way, no transition (breakage) in terms of debconf
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Glenn Maynard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ja.po files are in EUC-JP.
Well, they *can* be UTF-8.
They usually aren't.
Wouldn't just having Description-ll_LL.ENCODING: fields work fine ?
I've got a feeling that it's doable.
I can think of ways to
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who:porridge
time: Wed Sep 11 09:45:54 MDT 2002
Log Message:
Tidied up. Comments are very welcome.
Files:
changed:i18n.txt
* cdebconf (and
)
We already have many templates files that are in the legacy encoding,
and it's not impossible to maintain a lang-charset mapping table.
There already is one in the BTS.
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of gettext
to include on boot floppies.
Are you mentioning pointerize ?
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sure, still valid UTF-8, but it's UTF-8 for what the UTF-8 is if
interpreted according to Latin1. I thought dpkg didn't assume anything
at all about the encoding in control files? That it expected us-ascii
and damn everyone who didn't follow that. Can I fix this somehow, or are
we doomed
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Could we move that out of Description-xx: lines to
generate some kind of po file?
Believe me, nobody would be happier than me if we used po files instead
;)
I was only working with it like this because this was the current
concept of translating the
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Jordi Mallach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Moshe tells me that I need to commit my Catalan templates in UTF-8
No
The templates files should not be in UTF-8.
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+ * NOT YET RELEASED
+ * Junichi Uekawa:
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+- link
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* Debian Boot CVS Master
| add setlocale call to each main(), and switch slang to slang-utf8
Have you tested that slang-utf8 works properly with cdebconf?
No. But enabling setlocale requires slang-utf8.
regards,
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* Debian Boot CVS Master
| add setlocale call to each main(), and switch slang to slang-utf8
Have you tested that slang-utf8 works properly with cdebconf?
I've checked now, it seems to be working fine.
regards,
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Putting the driver on the floppy costs space, so two languages would
have to go (they will be available when the CDROM is accessible), ja and
es. The language catalogs on the floppy image would be: en pt de fr.
I
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it should be doable.
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we don't need to bump soversion at all, unless we make
backward-incompatible changes. just bump minor (and don't change the
packaging name). Also, fix shlibs to depend on that version or
later.
But surely adding stuff to a data structure is a backward-incompatible
change?
It
There are two points I am unconfortable with this patch:
Why not use locale information ? (it is needed for some frontend and
other things)
and why is the country information 6-chars long?
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Are you talking about language names? They are either ll or ll_LL.
As everything will be UTF-8 encoded, there is no need to add encoding.
There is probably a need to add a UTF-8 encoding something,
but there probably isn't really a need.
Why does it have to be char something[] when
char *
I was thinking more of
if (locale == C)
question user;
else
get country from locale.
It doesn't work, you can't get country from locale, you must always ask
user to tell where he lives.
Huh?
They are in
language_country.codeset format.
ja_JP is
They are in
language_country.codeset format.
ja_JP is Japan,
pt_BR is Brazil.
What is the problem?
[...]
Do you really think that there are no Japanese people outside of Japan?
Then they should use
ja_CA or whatever they want.
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Why does it have to be char something[] when
char * something will perfectly work ?
I did not say it has to be a char[6], I do not care if someone wants to
malloc it.
Please use strdup and friends, or asprintf, or other kind of
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Do you really think that there are no Japanese people outside of Japan?
Then they should use ja_CA or whatever they want.
No, this locale does not exist.
That doesn't really matter if it doesn't currently exist on
your system. You can always make one.
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Please use strdup and friends, or asprintf, or other kind of
things that are less prone to break.
Ok, I will use strdup. While we are on it, why are return values of
allocation routines never checked?
You could add checks, or use/define xstrdup to give some
useful error message.
They
At Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:24:08 -0500,
Bao C. Ha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am playing with debootstrap to build a custom base system.
I would like to include freeswan in the list of deb packages.
Unfortunately, freeswan is in the non-US archive. I just
wonder if there is an easy way to do it
At 14 Nov 2002 00:10:32 +0100,
Martin Sj�gren wrote:
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tis 2002-11-05 klockan 03.18 skrev Junichi Uekawa:
But surely adding stuff to a data structure is a backward-incompatible
change?
It depends on the way you do it.
You can add stuff to a data
You seem to have already solved the problem, but
pbuilder attempts at this problem and other things by
doing a two-phase install.
debootstrap the base system,
then using APT to install the rest.
A two-stage process does not help me. I am trying to build
a small but complete
Let's first have a working installer on at least a few arches before
walking down that road. However, it is a problem which I was notified
of a few days ago: d-i relies heavily on devfs and, well, 2.4 doesn't
work on m68k and it doesn't look like it will in the foreseeable
future. So, help
reassign 171027 boot-floppies
Does it means changing Subject: for boot floppies?
Sorry, if not.
It is just a cosmetical/technical thing in the bug tracking system. Not related to the
subject.
At Thu, 28 Nov 2002 07:58:34 +0100,
Ruzsinszky Attila wrote:
architecture: sparc
I've finally managed to build, but not test, udebs for glib, pango,
and gtk+-directfb.
I'm having doubts on whether we really need udebs for them.
I want some clarification on this point.
We are probably not going to have a floppy image from
them (which will involve having PIC packages for
We are probably not going to have a floppy image from them (which
will involve having PIC packages for each library package, which is
a big burden) and if we are not going to need to fit on a floppy,
what is the point of making a udeb for ?
No, there is no way that they will fit on the
We still need to have an eye on the space that is occupied on the
ramdisk. The udebs do not contain any unneeded modules or
documentation and in some cases they use other compile options then
their deb counterparts. A good example is directfb:
They should change their sonames,
at least this
We still need to have an eye on the space that is occupied on the
ramdisk. The udebs do not contain any unneeded modules or
documentation and in some cases they use other compile options then
their deb counterparts.
They should not be deb/udeb counterparts that are
binary-incompatible.
I understand that. But just like we have a bunch of architectures, we
have a bunch of netboot options. You generally don't have a lot of
choices about what your hardware supports. Telling someone whose card
doesn't support pxe to use pxe because it's better is no more sensible
than
eject is missing from the woody basedebs. On powerpc, this makes changing
the CDs extremely awkward (newbies rarely dare poke a paper clip into the
CD tray). Installation from CD is impeded severely, hence the severity of
critical.
I think this bug should be dealt on boot-floppies side.
I think this bug should be dealt on boot-floppies side.
Shouldn't it ?
HOW? It would be easy to add this to debootstrap's call, but if the
packaging is missing in basedebs.tar, people installing from it would
fail. So debootstrap would require an update, or at least a change in
I can do a big load at the boot of this mini-system, but
due to technical constraints, i can't use a NFS exported partition (of a server) to
realize it.
What kind of technical constraints is it that you can't use a NFS exported partition?
I usually find it convenient to use NFS-root.
I've noticed some udebs require on libslang.so.1, while the cdebconf
slang frontend require libslang.so.1-UTF8. Should all udeb programs
and libraries link with UTF8 versions of libraries, or should we leave
it to the package maintainers?
I was kind of hoping that we would be able to
mklibs fails to find the PIC library for reduction since it's called
libnewt-utf8_pic.a while mklibs expects it to simply be libnewt_pic.a
We're using newt debian-installer so it'd be nice if this were fixed so
we could save some bytes on the boot media. :-)
I have a few questions:
I've
mklibs fails to find the PIC library for reduction since it's called
libnewt-utf8_pic.a while mklibs expects it to simply be libnewt_pic.a
We're using newt debian-installer so it'd be nice if this were fixed so
we could save some bytes on the boot media. :-)
I have a few
But you are right, we should get 2.4 working instead of hacking devfs into
or out of d-i...
Sure, but in the mean time we have to make sure there's an installer for
m68k that actually works. Else we could just as well shut down all m68k
buildd's, as it will not be worth it anymore.
It
Since it's a generic rule that *-bf packages should not contain
manpages, I'm of the opinion that a new rule should be added to
lintian, rather than adding overrides to all *-bf packages.
Further more, since I don't think the new debian-installer is using
those *-bf packages, but uses
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I plan to export over the boot-floppies/documentation and import it into
the debian-installer/documentation tree, to start the
user-documentation task.
Any objections, or better ideas?
I'd like it so that boot-floppies/documentation is marked that
this documentation is deprecated.
It's
In trying to install my new copy of Woody ( which I received today) I
repeatedly got the message debootstrap exited with an error (return value 1)
I have tried installing on two machines, neither of very high quality, with
the same result.
I am not able to boot up the machine, so my
.
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I've got an impression that it will be a disaster on most
Japanese setups.
Yes, that's what I suspected. However, I don't really know what the
best thing to do about it is.
I don't think we have a Japanese-capable
need kon2, instead of bterm.
I think bterm was only capable of UTF-8.
Not all programs work with UTF-8 in Japanese...
regards,
junichi
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Packages using slang, like jed should be aware that this
change has happened.
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Junichi Uekawa [EMAIL PROTECTED] cum veritate scripsit:
I think the following changes will need to happen, if
the proposed NMU of slang1 hits unstable, please check:
diff -ru boot-floppies/debian/changelog boot-floppies-after/debian/changelog
--- boot-floppies/debian/changelog Wed Jan 30
it now.
slang-utf8 related fixes will probably take a bit more time to
come, and doing a release before that would be nice.
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Package: boot-floppies
Severity: serious
With the introduction of slang1a-utf8,
boot-floppies needs to be modified to compile/run with the new slang.
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probably is required. It's stuck in incoming.
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a URL with each language variant.
I think it would be nice to have an entry associating
language to a URL.
Or make the entry _(ftp.us.debian.org) a translatable string
to give a somewhat sane-ish result.
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On Thu, 21 Feb 2002 09:17:20 +0100
Eduard Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just realized that this won't work. We will need both versions
installed to the same time to build boot-floppies. Any ideas about a
possible solution for the dilemma?
It is actually easy to make a libslang-bf-dev or
that
-DUTF8, and -lslang / -lslang-utf8 matches.
Sounds okay, but you surely meant libslang-utf8.a and libslang.a
er... I didn't.
Ah, we are talking about -pic ?
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On Thu, 21 Feb 2002 11:14:46 +0100
Eduard Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
#include hallo.h
Junichi Uekawa wrote on Thu Feb 21, 2002 um 05:48:04PM:
It is actually easy to make a libslang-bf-dev or something, that contains:
/usr/lib/libslang-utf8.so - /lib/libslang.so.1-UTF8
/usr/lib
However, one must make very sure that
-DUTF8, and -lslang / -lslang-utf8 matches.
Sounds okay, but you surely meant libslang-utf8.a and libslang.a
er... I didn't.
Ah, we are talking about -pic ?
No, we are talking about slang1-utf8-dev vs. slang1-dev. Both are needed
On Thu, 21 Feb 2002 23:59:30 -0800
John H. Robinson, IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
but i was able to get it to be quiet about the slang1-utf8 stuff (hollow
victory, it turns out)
so we have boot-floppies that are not compiling anywhere
Somehow, b-f build process is b0rked.
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