Re: Glibc-based Debian GNU/KNetBSD

2003-12-04 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 04:21:04PM -0500, Perry E.Metzger wrote: Joel Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I haven't been following too closely. Could someone explain what the issue is? Obviously XFree works fine on NetBSD -- I'm using it at this very moment. Given that it works fine on

Re: Glibc-based Debian GNU/KNetBSD

2003-12-04 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 04:16:00PM -0500, Perry E.Metzger wrote: Why do you want NetBSD's kernel? You obviously believe everything that NetBSD has done is fecal, so what would the point of contaminating the superior GNU userland with a crappy NetBSD kernel? Well I don't recall using

Re: A request from the NetBSD folks [ please discuss ]

2003-12-04 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 01:50:16PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: I've been contacted by a member of the NetBSD team, who expressed that the general opinion seems to be that Debian GNU/KNetBSD is a better name for the port than Debian GNU/NetBSD, both because it is more specific about what's going

Re: Glibc-based Debian GNU/KNetBSD

2003-12-04 Thread Robert Millan
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 02:16:04AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So your best bet to get your port released is to provide an environment as similar as the GNU/Linux so that most packages will build out of the box. Using glibc and GNU tools is a big step in this direction. Fully agreed. But

Re: Glibc-based Debian GNU/KNetBSD

2003-12-04 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 05:19:41PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 01:52:01AM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: Please avoid the third party euphemism. If you want to run non-free software on a Glibc-based system, you can use the NetBSD libc since it's no technical

Re: Glibc-based Debian GNU/KNetBSD

2003-12-04 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 08:45:52AM -0800, Michael Graff wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 02 December 2003 07:58 am, Robert Millan wrote: No, we combine the advantages of Debian, GNU, and the kernel of NetBSD. The superiority of GNU userland repect to

Re: A request from the NetBSD folks [ please discuss ]

2003-12-04 Thread Robert Millan
There are very important technical reasons for these decisions, not only nomenclature correctness stuff. Let me explain. On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 11:33:22AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: uname -s: GNU/KFreeBSD Uhm. I'd have to turn on my box to

Re: Glibc-based Debian GNU/KNetBSD

2003-12-04 Thread Robert Millan
On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 08:16:35PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: The NetBSD/native port has been stalled for some time, because I ran into core, required-to-build-lots-of-things applications (tcl8.4, IIRC, in particular) that *don't work* with GNU pth. Period. Neither version 1.x or 2.x. I'm not

Re: Glibc-based Debian GNU/KNetBSD

2003-12-04 Thread Joel Baker
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 03:50:00PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 08:16:35PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: The NetBSD/native port has been stalled for some time, because I ran into core, required-to-build-lots-of-things applications (tcl8.4, IIRC, in particular) that

Re: A request from the NetBSD folks [ please discuss ]

2003-12-04 Thread Joel Baker
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 03:24:51PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: There are very important technical reasons for these decisions, not only nomenclature correctness stuff. Let me explain. On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 11:33:22AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: uname -s: GNU/KFreeBSD

Re: A request from the NetBSD folks [ please discuss ]

2003-12-04 Thread Robert Millan
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 11:22:36AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: Indeed. As long as it's documented, people are probably going to be hand-selecting their APT entries, anyway, so it isn't such a big deal. [...] The Debian architecture will remain 'netbsd-i386', with the known issue that we'll

Re: A request from the NetBSD folks [ please discuss ]

2003-12-04 Thread Joel Baker
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 02:04:20AM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 11:22:36AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: Indeed. As long as it's documented, people are probably going to be hand-selecting their APT entries, anyway, so it isn't such a big deal. [...] The Debian