Bug#376404: locale settings within pbuilder sessions

[Mattia Rizzolo]

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On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 09:15:35PM +0100, Sandro Tosi wrote:
> I just had to force C.UTF-8 to prevent a FTBFS when using python3 -
> can we move forward with this?

packages has to be able to build in whatever locale they are.
policy doesn't mandate any particular locale, nor builder, nor anything,
and instead I expect every person to be able to rebuild any package
(reproducibly, even) in whatever locale they find themselves in.

I looked up what sbuild is doing here: it doesn't do anything locale
related, the only difference is that it filters out all env variables
before starting.


Instead, I'm thinking about removing the 'export LANG=C' and
'export LC_ALL=C' that are there already.


Please see #838175 for a similar thing about sbuild.

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Bug#376404: locale settings within pbuilder sessions

[Sandro Tosi]

I just had to force C.UTF-8 to prevent a FTBFS when using python3 -
can we move forward with this?

thanks!

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Bug#376404: [Pbuilder-maint] Bug#376404: locale settings within pbuilder sessions

[Mattia Rizzolo]

On Fri, Nov 06, 2015 at 02:36:30PM +0100, Paul Gevers wrote:
> What do you people think of even setting it to C.UTF-8? (Or am I now
> hijacking this bug report for something else)


"of course" (to me at least) this would be C.UTF-8, but I don't feel
right at owerwriting LC_ALL that way, I'll have to think more about
this, sorry.

(Yes, I'm part of the reproducible builds team, but I don't think
putting LC_ALL in the builder is a sane choice)

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Bug#376404: [Pbuilder-maint] Bug#376404: locale settings within pbuilder sessions

[Paul Gevers]

On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 00:37:56 +0900 Junichi Uekawa 
wrote:
> > Probably all helper scripts that do chroot / $CHROOTEXEC should set
> > LC_ALL=C first:
> > 
> >   LC_ALL=C chroot $CHROOTEXEC
> > pbuilder-buildpackage* *
> > pbuilder-buildpackage-funcs*
> > pbuilder-checkparams
> > pbuilder-createbuildenv*
> > pbuilder-loadconfig
> > pbuilder-modules **
> 
> I think most of the time, pbuilder-modules should be included, and
> setting LC_ALL=C should cover most cases.

What do you people think of even setting it to C.UTF-8? (Or am I now
hijacking this bug report for something else)

(This idea came up from discussions on reproducible-builds. I see that
two of my packages had a slight flaws in building them because they were
missing the UTF-8 support).

Paul



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Bug#376404: [Pbuilder-maint] Bug#376404: locale settings within pbuilder sessions

[Loïc Minier]

Hi,

On Wed, Jul 05, 2006, Junichi Uekawa wrote:
 I would have thought LC_ALL=C should override LC_CTIME.
 I'm suspecting something is wrong.

 It does:
LC_ALL=C LC_TIME=fr_FR.UTF-8 locale
[...]
LC_TIME=C

 ... but it's LC_TIME, not LC_CTIME.

 I second this wish, I want the uploaded result to be touched mostly by
 commands run within LC_ALL=C, but it would be nice to keep some
 commands withing the default locale, for example debsign (as it relies
 on the locale to convert the encoding of the UIDs on keys to the
 encoding of the terminal and might also spawn a passphrase prompt).

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Bug#376404: [Pbuilder-maint] Bug#376404: locale settings within pbuilder sessions

[Junichi Uekawa]

Hi,

  I've tried setting 'export LC_ALL=POSIX' in my .pbuilderrc, but this
  made no difference (while 'export debian_chroot=pbuild$$' works well).
  
  Do you explicitly set LC_CTIME?
 Yes.

I would have thought LC_ALL=C should override LC_CTIME.
I'm suspecting something is wrong.

 Probably all helper scripts that do chroot / $CHROOTEXEC should set
 LC_ALL=C first:
 
   LC_ALL=C chroot $CHROOTEXEC
 pbuilder-buildpackage* *
 pbuilder-buildpackage-funcs*
 pbuilder-checkparams
 pbuilder-createbuildenv*
 pbuilder-loadconfig
 pbuilder-modules **

I think most of the time, pbuilder-modules should be included, and
setting LC_ALL=C should cover most cases.

regards,
junichi
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Bug#376404: [Pbuilder-maint] Bug#376404: locale settings within pbuilder sessions

[Andreas Beckmann]

Junichi Uekawa wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I've tried setting 'export LC_ALL=POSIX' in my .pbuilderrc, but this
 made no difference (while 'export debian_chroot=pbuild$$' works well).
 
 Do you explicitly set LC_CTIME?
Yes.

Probably all helper scripts that do chroot / $CHROOTEXEC should set
LC_ALL=C first:

  LC_ALL=C chroot $CHROOTEXEC
pbuilder-buildpackage* *
pbuilder-buildpackage-funcs*
pbuilder-checkparams
pbuilder-createbuildenv*
pbuilder-loadconfig
pbuilder-modules **
pbuilder-runhooks  *
pbuilder-satisfydepends*
pbuilder-updatebuildenv*
pdebuild-checkparams
pdebuild-internal

I hope, I didn't miss an occurrence.
I didn't check the call-graph/source-graph, the two LC_ALL settings
might cover most $CHROOTEXEC invokations.


Andreas


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Bug#376404: locale settings within pbuilder sessions

[Andreas Beckmann]

Package: pbuilder
Version: 0.155
Severity: wishlist

Hi,

I'd like pbuilder to run commands in cleaned locale settings (e.g.
LC_ALL=POSIX) in the chroot environment, because
- in a minimal and clean build environment no locales (besides the
  default) are available
- some programs (e.g. perl) complain about missing locales

My locale settings are the following:
LANG=
LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_TIME=en_DK.UTF-8
LC_COLLATE=POSIX
LC_ALL=

and I've seen the following warnings while using pbuilder:
...
dh_installdebconf
perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
LANGUAGE = (unset),
LC_ALL = (unset),
LC_COLLATE = POSIX,
LC_TIME = en_DK.UTF-8,
LANG = (unset)
are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale (C).
...

I've tried setting 'export LC_ALL=POSIX' in my .pbuilderrc, but this
made no difference (while 'export debian_chroot=pbuild$$' works well).

Testing with 'pbuilder login' or 'pbuilder execute -- /usr/bin/locale'
shows the following settings:
LANG=C
LC_ALL=C

A fix grep shows settings of LC_ALL=C in pbuilder-buildpackage and
pbuilder-modules. Probably this needs to be done at more places.


Andreas

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (500, 'testing'), (500, 'stable'), (300, 'unstable'), (30, 
'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.16-2-k7
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)

Versions of packages pbuilder depends on:
ii  cdebootstrap  0.3.11 Bootstrap a Debian system
ii  coreutils 5.96-3 The GNU core utilities
ii  debianutils   2.16.1 Miscellaneous utilities specific t
ii  debootstrap   0.3.3  Bootstrap a basic Debian system
ii  gcc   4:4.0.3-4  The GNU C compiler
ii  wget  1.10.2-1   retrieves files from the web

Versions of packages pbuilder recommends:
ii  devscripts2.9.20 Scripts to make the life of a Debi
ii  fakeroot  1.5.8  Gives a fake root environment
ii  sudo  1.6.8p12-4 Provide limited super user privile

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Bug#376404: [Pbuilder-maint] Bug#376404: locale settings within pbuilder sessions

[Junichi Uekawa]

Hi,

 I've tried setting 'export LC_ALL=POSIX' in my .pbuilderrc, but this
 made no difference (while 'export debian_chroot=pbuild$$' works well).

Do you explicitly set LC_CTIME?


This is at most a cosmetic thing (perl would complain loudly, but
that's because it's braindead; but it does fall back to something
sane, so it's not a real problem)

regards,
junichi
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