Bug#860515: Many translations missing in french KDE lang packages while we're close to release

[Julien Aubin]

Hi,

Tested the package and actually it fixes almost all labels. I won't raise
another issue for the few missing translations which are more related to
kde-l10n-fr. At least the experience now is satisfying.

Rgds

2017-05-07 14:07 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :

> One note : the source translation file should be put under :
>
> kwidgetsaddons-5.28.x/po/fr
>
> 2017-05-07 14:06 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Attached file kwidgetsaddons5_qt.qm extracted from Gentoo (featuring
>> kwidgetsaddons 5.29.0) which contains the right translations. Put it under
>> directory /usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES and correct yes/no/cancel
>> text appears in French in all KDE Qt5 apps, plus other texts such as
>> untranslated confirmation dialogs.
>>
>> Attached also the source translation file you can include in the build to
>> replace the 5.28.0 file.
>>
>> Rgds
>>
>> 2017-05-07 13:51 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
>>
>>> reassign 860515 kwidgetsaddons
>>>
>>> 2017-04-30 17:21 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
>>>
 Hi Maximiliano,

 Thanks to Pino we've found the root of issue, which is that
 translations in file  /usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/kwidgetaddons5_qt.qm
 are wrong, which causes the OK/Cancel/Apply buttons to stay in English in
 all KDE Qt5 apps, and other buttons and confirm dialogs like the one which
 allows users to customize keyboard shortcuts.

 The fix consists in backporting this file from kwidgetsaddons 5.29.0
 (only for French translations), which fixes the issue.

 Gentoo has this version of the lib, and I could test with Gentoo's
 /usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/kwidgetaddons5_qt.qm file which makes
 the issue disappear.

 Could you please backport this file and re-release the package ?

 If you need help to test the packages I can do this as long as it does
 not break all libkf5*.

 Many thanks,

 Julien.

 2017-04-28 21:59 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :

> Hi,
>
> I could test with Gentoo file for 
> /usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/kwidgetaddons5_qt.qm
> and it fixes the issue for all KDE Qt5 Apps. Gentoo uses version 5.29.0 of
> this package. Backporting the translation file to Debian will do the 
> trick.
>
> Thanks again.
>
>
> 2017-04-28 7:10 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
>
>> Le 28 avr. 2017 06:55, "Pino Toscano"  a écrit :
>>
>>> In data venerdì 28 aprile 2017 04:27:04 CEST, Julien Aubin ha
>>> scritto:
>>> > Le 27 avr. 2017 23:29, "Pino Toscano"  a écrit :
>>> >
>>> > In data giovedì 27 aprile 2017 22:30:43 CEST, Julien Aubin ha
>>> scritto:
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > This is why to me this bug is a showstopper for release, as
>>> > > > > there are many French Debian users around (incl. Africa and
>>> Quebec)
>>> > and
>>> > > > > such an issue makes UX issue look... amateurish.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > This is still not a reason to make this bug "grave" from the
>>> beginning,
>>> > > > with only generic and unhelpful instructions on *where* to
>>> find the
>>> > > > issue.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > For the rest of the details, see my other email.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > For apps with full untranslated sections, adding the files I
>>> below
>>> > would
>>> > > > > solve the issue.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Not really, no. This list has no utility, other than "some
>>> things where
>>> > > > not translated to French in software currently packaged in
>>> Debian".
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Okay I understand. Now it would be really great to include them
>>> before
>>> > > release.
>>> >
>>> > Include what?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > The untranslated messages for kmail antispam, korganizer, ...
>>>
>>> They are not part of kde-l10n/fr 16.04.x, which means they were not
>>> translated, and thus there's nowhere we can take them from.
>>> They are not even translated in 16.08.x (which is the version of the
>>> majority of non-PIM stuff from KDE Applications), so what you ask is
>>> simply not possible.
>>>
>>
>> Okay too bad :'( but well if these are the only chunks of
>> translations which are missing this is a smaller issue, even though they
>> exist in kde-l10n-pl.
>>
>> But backporting French translations from libkf5widgetsaddons-data
>> 5.29 seems essential to me as without it every single KDE Qt5 app is
>> crippled with English text when using a French KDE, i.e. Konsole, 
>> Calligra
>> suite, Krita, Kdenlive, Dolphin, Kontact, ... Don't hesitate to ask me to
>> test as long as updating this package w/ libkf5widgetsaddons on my system
>> does not 

Bug#860515: Many translations missing in french KDE lang packages while we're close to release

[Julien Aubin]

One note : the source translation file should be put under :

kwidgetsaddons-5.28.x/po/fr

2017-05-07 14:06 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :

> Hi,
>
> Attached file kwidgetsaddons5_qt.qm extracted from Gentoo (featuring
> kwidgetsaddons 5.29.0) which contains the right translations. Put it under
> directory /usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES and correct yes/no/cancel text
> appears in French in all KDE Qt5 apps, plus other texts such as
> untranslated confirmation dialogs.
>
> Attached also the source translation file you can include in the build to
> replace the 5.28.0 file.
>
> Rgds
>
> 2017-05-07 13:51 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
>
>> reassign 860515 kwidgetsaddons
>>
>> 2017-04-30 17:21 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
>>
>>> Hi Maximiliano,
>>>
>>> Thanks to Pino we've found the root of issue, which is that translations
>>> in file  /usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/kwidgetaddons5_qt.qm are
>>> wrong, which causes the OK/Cancel/Apply buttons to stay in English in all
>>> KDE Qt5 apps, and other buttons and confirm dialogs like the one which
>>> allows users to customize keyboard shortcuts.
>>>
>>> The fix consists in backporting this file from kwidgetsaddons 5.29.0
>>> (only for French translations), which fixes the issue.
>>>
>>> Gentoo has this version of the lib, and I could test with Gentoo's
>>> /usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/kwidgetaddons5_qt.qm file which makes
>>> the issue disappear.
>>>
>>> Could you please backport this file and re-release the package ?
>>>
>>> If you need help to test the packages I can do this as long as it does
>>> not break all libkf5*.
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>>
>>> Julien.
>>>
>>> 2017-04-28 21:59 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
>>>
 Hi,

 I could test with Gentoo file for 
 /usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/kwidgetaddons5_qt.qm
 and it fixes the issue for all KDE Qt5 Apps. Gentoo uses version 5.29.0 of
 this package. Backporting the translation file to Debian will do the trick.

 Thanks again.


 2017-04-28 7:10 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :

> Le 28 avr. 2017 06:55, "Pino Toscano"  a écrit :
>
>> In data venerdì 28 aprile 2017 04:27:04 CEST, Julien Aubin ha scritto:
>> > Le 27 avr. 2017 23:29, "Pino Toscano"  a écrit :
>> >
>> > In data giovedì 27 aprile 2017 22:30:43 CEST, Julien Aubin ha
>> scritto:
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > This is why to me this bug is a showstopper for release, as
>> > > > > there are many French Debian users around (incl. Africa and
>> Quebec)
>> > and
>> > > > > such an issue makes UX issue look... amateurish.
>> > > >
>> > > > This is still not a reason to make this bug "grave" from the
>> beginning,
>> > > > with only generic and unhelpful instructions on *where* to find
>> the
>> > > > issue.
>> > > >
>> > > > For the rest of the details, see my other email.
>> > > >
>> > > > > For apps with full untranslated sections, adding the files I
>> below
>> > would
>> > > > > solve the issue.
>> > > >
>> > > > Not really, no. This list has no utility, other than "some
>> things where
>> > > > not translated to French in software currently packaged in
>> Debian".
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > Okay I understand. Now it would be really great to include them
>> before
>> > > release.
>> >
>> > Include what?
>> >
>> >
>> > The untranslated messages for kmail antispam, korganizer, ...
>>
>> They are not part of kde-l10n/fr 16.04.x, which means they were not
>> translated, and thus there's nowhere we can take them from.
>> They are not even translated in 16.08.x (which is the version of the
>> majority of non-PIM stuff from KDE Applications), so what you ask is
>> simply not possible.
>>
>
> Okay too bad :'( but well if these are the only chunks of translations
> which are missing this is a smaller issue, even though they exist in
> kde-l10n-pl.
>
> But backporting French translations from libkf5widgetsaddons-data 5.29
> seems essential to me as without it every single KDE Qt5 app is crippled
> with English text when using a French KDE, i.e. Konsole, Calligra suite,
> Krita, Kdenlive, Dolphin, Kontact, ... Don't hesitate to ask me to test as
> long as updating this package w/ libkf5widgetsaddons on my system does not
> break other dependencies.
>
>>
>> --
>> Pino Toscano
>
>

>>>
>>
>

Bug#860515: Many translations missing in french KDE lang packages while we're close to release

[Julien Aubin]

reassign 860515 kwidgetsaddons

2017-04-30 17:21 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :

> Hi Maximiliano,
>
> Thanks to Pino we've found the root of issue, which is that translations
> in file  /usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/kwidgetaddons5_qt.qm are wrong,
> which causes the OK/Cancel/Apply buttons to stay in English in all KDE Qt5
> apps, and other buttons and confirm dialogs like the one which allows users
> to customize keyboard shortcuts.
>
> The fix consists in backporting this file from kwidgetsaddons 5.29.0 (only
> for French translations), which fixes the issue.
>
> Gentoo has this version of the lib, and I could test with Gentoo's
> /usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/kwidgetaddons5_qt.qm file which makes
> the issue disappear.
>
> Could you please backport this file and re-release the package ?
>
> If you need help to test the packages I can do this as long as it does not
> break all libkf5*.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Julien.
>
> 2017-04-28 21:59 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I could test with Gentoo file for 
>> /usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/kwidgetaddons5_qt.qm
>> and it fixes the issue for all KDE Qt5 Apps. Gentoo uses version 5.29.0 of
>> this package. Backporting the translation file to Debian will do the trick.
>>
>> Thanks again.
>>
>>
>> 2017-04-28 7:10 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
>>
>>> Le 28 avr. 2017 06:55, "Pino Toscano"  a écrit :
>>>
 In data venerdì 28 aprile 2017 04:27:04 CEST, Julien Aubin ha scritto:
 > Le 27 avr. 2017 23:29, "Pino Toscano"  a écrit :
 >
 > In data giovedì 27 aprile 2017 22:30:43 CEST, Julien Aubin ha scritto:
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > > This is why to me this bug is a showstopper for release, as
 > > > > there are many French Debian users around (incl. Africa and
 Quebec)
 > and
 > > > > such an issue makes UX issue look... amateurish.
 > > >
 > > > This is still not a reason to make this bug "grave" from the
 beginning,
 > > > with only generic and unhelpful instructions on *where* to find
 the
 > > > issue.
 > > >
 > > > For the rest of the details, see my other email.
 > > >
 > > > > For apps with full untranslated sections, adding the files I
 below
 > would
 > > > > solve the issue.
 > > >
 > > > Not really, no. This list has no utility, other than "some things
 where
 > > > not translated to French in software currently packaged in
 Debian".
 > > >
 > >
 > > Okay I understand. Now it would be really great to include them
 before
 > > release.
 >
 > Include what?
 >
 >
 > The untranslated messages for kmail antispam, korganizer, ...

 They are not part of kde-l10n/fr 16.04.x, which means they were not
 translated, and thus there's nowhere we can take them from.
 They are not even translated in 16.08.x (which is the version of the
 majority of non-PIM stuff from KDE Applications), so what you ask is
 simply not possible.

>>>
>>> Okay too bad :'( but well if these are the only chunks of translations
>>> which are missing this is a smaller issue, even though they exist in
>>> kde-l10n-pl.
>>>
>>> But backporting French translations from libkf5widgetsaddons-data 5.29
>>> seems essential to me as without it every single KDE Qt5 app is crippled
>>> with English text when using a French KDE, i.e. Konsole, Calligra suite,
>>> Krita, Kdenlive, Dolphin, Kontact, ... Don't hesitate to ask me to test as
>>> long as updating this package w/ libkf5widgetsaddons on my system does not
>>> break other dependencies.
>>>

 --
 Pino Toscano
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Bug#860515: Many translations missing in french KDE lang packages while we're close to release

[Julien Aubin]

Hi Maximiliano,

Thanks to Pino we've found the root of issue, which is that translations in
file  /usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/kwidgetaddons5_qt.qm are wrong,
which causes the OK/Cancel/Apply buttons to stay in English in all KDE Qt5
apps, and other buttons and confirm dialogs like the one which allows users
to customize keyboard shortcuts.

The fix consists in backporting this file from kwidgetsaddons 5.29.0 (only
for French translations), which fixes the issue.

Gentoo has this version of the lib, and I could test with Gentoo's
/usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/kwidgetaddons5_qt.qm file which makes the
issue disappear.

Could you please backport this file and re-release the package ?

If you need help to test the packages I can do this as long as it does not
break all libkf5*.

Many thanks,

Julien.

2017-04-28 21:59 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :

> Hi,
>
> I could test with Gentoo file for 
> /usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/kwidgetaddons5_qt.qm
> and it fixes the issue for all KDE Qt5 Apps. Gentoo uses version 5.29.0 of
> this package. Backporting the translation file to Debian will do the trick.
>
> Thanks again.
>
>
> 2017-04-28 7:10 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
>
>> Le 28 avr. 2017 06:55, "Pino Toscano"  a écrit :
>>
>>> In data venerdì 28 aprile 2017 04:27:04 CEST, Julien Aubin ha scritto:
>>> > Le 27 avr. 2017 23:29, "Pino Toscano"  a écrit :
>>> >
>>> > In data giovedì 27 aprile 2017 22:30:43 CEST, Julien Aubin ha scritto:
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > This is why to me this bug is a showstopper for release, as
>>> > > > > there are many French Debian users around (incl. Africa and
>>> Quebec)
>>> > and
>>> > > > > such an issue makes UX issue look... amateurish.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > This is still not a reason to make this bug "grave" from the
>>> beginning,
>>> > > > with only generic and unhelpful instructions on *where* to find the
>>> > > > issue.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > For the rest of the details, see my other email.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > For apps with full untranslated sections, adding the files I
>>> below
>>> > would
>>> > > > > solve the issue.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Not really, no. This list has no utility, other than "some things
>>> where
>>> > > > not translated to French in software currently packaged in Debian".
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Okay I understand. Now it would be really great to include them
>>> before
>>> > > release.
>>> >
>>> > Include what?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > The untranslated messages for kmail antispam, korganizer, ...
>>>
>>> They are not part of kde-l10n/fr 16.04.x, which means they were not
>>> translated, and thus there's nowhere we can take them from.
>>> They are not even translated in 16.08.x (which is the version of the
>>> majority of non-PIM stuff from KDE Applications), so what you ask is
>>> simply not possible.
>>>
>>
>> Okay too bad :'( but well if these are the only chunks of translations
>> which are missing this is a smaller issue, even though they exist in
>> kde-l10n-pl.
>>
>> But backporting French translations from libkf5widgetsaddons-data 5.29
>> seems essential to me as without it every single KDE Qt5 app is crippled
>> with English text when using a French KDE, i.e. Konsole, Calligra suite,
>> Krita, Kdenlive, Dolphin, Kontact, ... Don't hesitate to ask me to test as
>> long as updating this package w/ libkf5widgetsaddons on my system does not
>> break other dependencies.
>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Pino Toscano
>>
>>
>

Bug#860515: Many translations missing in french KDE lang packages while we're close to release

[Julien Aubin]

Hi,

I could test with Gentoo file for
/usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/kwidgetaddons5_qt.qm
and it fixes the issue for all KDE Qt5 Apps. Gentoo uses version 5.29.0 of
this package. Backporting the translation file to Debian will do the trick.

Thanks again.


2017-04-28 7:10 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :

> Le 28 avr. 2017 06:55, "Pino Toscano"  a écrit :
>
>> In data venerdì 28 aprile 2017 04:27:04 CEST, Julien Aubin ha scritto:
>> > Le 27 avr. 2017 23:29, "Pino Toscano"  a écrit :
>> >
>> > In data giovedì 27 aprile 2017 22:30:43 CEST, Julien Aubin ha scritto:
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > This is why to me this bug is a showstopper for release, as
>> > > > > there are many French Debian users around (incl. Africa and
>> Quebec)
>> > and
>> > > > > such an issue makes UX issue look... amateurish.
>> > > >
>> > > > This is still not a reason to make this bug "grave" from the
>> beginning,
>> > > > with only generic and unhelpful instructions on *where* to find the
>> > > > issue.
>> > > >
>> > > > For the rest of the details, see my other email.
>> > > >
>> > > > > For apps with full untranslated sections, adding the files I below
>> > would
>> > > > > solve the issue.
>> > > >
>> > > > Not really, no. This list has no utility, other than "some things
>> where
>> > > > not translated to French in software currently packaged in Debian".
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > Okay I understand. Now it would be really great to include them before
>> > > release.
>> >
>> > Include what?
>> >
>> >
>> > The untranslated messages for kmail antispam, korganizer, ...
>>
>> They are not part of kde-l10n/fr 16.04.x, which means they were not
>> translated, and thus there's nowhere we can take them from.
>> They are not even translated in 16.08.x (which is the version of the
>> majority of non-PIM stuff from KDE Applications), so what you ask is
>> simply not possible.
>>
>
> Okay too bad :'( but well if these are the only chunks of translations
> which are missing this is a smaller issue, even though they exist in
> kde-l10n-pl.
>
> But backporting French translations from libkf5widgetsaddons-data 5.29
> seems essential to me as without it every single KDE Qt5 app is crippled
> with English text when using a French KDE, i.e. Konsole, Calligra suite,
> Krita, Kdenlive, Dolphin, Kontact, ... Don't hesitate to ask me to test as
> long as updating this package w/ libkf5widgetsaddons on my system does not
> break other dependencies.
>
>>
>> --
>> Pino Toscano
>
>

Bug#860515: Many translations missing in french KDE lang packages while we're close to release

[Julien Aubin]

Le 28 avr. 2017 06:55, "Pino Toscano"  a écrit :

> In data venerdì 28 aprile 2017 04:27:04 CEST, Julien Aubin ha scritto:
> > Le 27 avr. 2017 23:29, "Pino Toscano"  a écrit :
> >
> > In data giovedì 27 aprile 2017 22:30:43 CEST, Julien Aubin ha scritto:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > This is why to me this bug is a showstopper for release, as
> > > > > there are many French Debian users around (incl. Africa and Quebec)
> > and
> > > > > such an issue makes UX issue look... amateurish.
> > > >
> > > > This is still not a reason to make this bug "grave" from the
> beginning,
> > > > with only generic and unhelpful instructions on *where* to find the
> > > > issue.
> > > >
> > > > For the rest of the details, see my other email.
> > > >
> > > > > For apps with full untranslated sections, adding the files I below
> > would
> > > > > solve the issue.
> > > >
> > > > Not really, no. This list has no utility, other than "some things
> where
> > > > not translated to French in software currently packaged in Debian".
> > > >
> > >
> > > Okay I understand. Now it would be really great to include them before
> > > release.
> >
> > Include what?
> >
> >
> > The untranslated messages for kmail antispam, korganizer, ...
>
> They are not part of kde-l10n/fr 16.04.x, which means they were not
> translated, and thus there's nowhere we can take them from.
> They are not even translated in 16.08.x (which is the version of the
> majority of non-PIM stuff from KDE Applications), so what you ask is
> simply not possible.
>

Okay too bad :'( but well if these are the only chunks of translations
which are missing this is a smaller issue, even though they exist in
kde-l10n-pl.

But backporting French translations from libkf5widgetsaddons-data 5.29
seems essential to me as without it every single KDE Qt5 app is crippled
with English text when using a French KDE, i.e. Konsole, Calligra suite,
Krita, Kdenlive, Dolphin, Kontact, ... Don't hesitate to ask me to test as
long as updating this package w/ libkf5widgetsaddons on my system does not
break other dependencies.

>
> --
> Pino Toscano

Bug#860515: Many translations missing in french KDE lang packages while we're close to release

[Pino Toscano]

In data venerdì 28 aprile 2017 04:27:04 CEST, Julien Aubin ha scritto:
> Le 27 avr. 2017 23:29, "Pino Toscano"  a écrit :
> 
> In data giovedì 27 aprile 2017 22:30:43 CEST, Julien Aubin ha scritto:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > This is why to me this bug is a showstopper for release, as
> > > > there are many French Debian users around (incl. Africa and Quebec)
> and
> > > > such an issue makes UX issue look... amateurish.
> > >
> > > This is still not a reason to make this bug "grave" from the beginning,
> > > with only generic and unhelpful instructions on *where* to find the
> > > issue.
> > >
> > > For the rest of the details, see my other email.
> > >
> > > > For apps with full untranslated sections, adding the files I below
> would
> > > > solve the issue.
> > >
> > > Not really, no. This list has no utility, other than "some things where
> > > not translated to French in software currently packaged in Debian".
> > >
> >
> > Okay I understand. Now it would be really great to include them before
> > release.
> 
> Include what?
> 
> 
> The untranslated messages for kmail antispam, korganizer, ...

They are not part of kde-l10n/fr 16.04.x, which means they were not
translated, and thus there's nowhere we can take them from.
They are not even translated in 16.08.x (which is the version of the
majority of non-PIM stuff from KDE Applications), so what you ask is
simply not possible.

-- 
Pino Toscano

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Bug#860515: Many translations missing in french KDE lang packages while we're close to release

[Julien Aubin]

Le 27 avr. 2017 23:29, "Pino Toscano"  a écrit :

In data giovedì 27 aprile 2017 22:30:43 CEST, Julien Aubin ha scritto:
> >
> >
> >
> > > This is why to me this bug is a showstopper for release, as
> > > there are many French Debian users around (incl. Africa and Quebec)
and
> > > such an issue makes UX issue look... amateurish.
> >
> > This is still not a reason to make this bug "grave" from the beginning,
> > with only generic and unhelpful instructions on *where* to find the
> > issue.
> >
> > For the rest of the details, see my other email.
> >
> > > For apps with full untranslated sections, adding the files I below
would
> > > solve the issue.
> >
> > Not really, no. This list has no utility, other than "some things where
> > not translated to French in software currently packaged in Debian".
> >
>
> Okay I understand. Now it would be really great to include them before
> release.

Include what?


The untranslated messages for kmail antispam, korganizer, ...


--
Pino Toscano

Bug#860515: Many translations missing in french KDE lang packages while we're close to release

[Pino Toscano]

In data giovedì 27 aprile 2017 22:30:43 CEST, Julien Aubin ha scritto:
> >
> >
> >
> > > This is why to me this bug is a showstopper for release, as
> > > there are many French Debian users around (incl. Africa and Quebec) and
> > > such an issue makes UX issue look... amateurish.
> >
> > This is still not a reason to make this bug "grave" from the beginning,
> > with only generic and unhelpful instructions on *where* to find the
> > issue.
> >
> > For the rest of the details, see my other email.
> >
> > > For apps with full untranslated sections, adding the files I below would
> > > solve the issue.
> >
> > Not really, no. This list has no utility, other than "some things where
> > not translated to French in software currently packaged in Debian".
> >
> 
> Okay I understand. Now it would be really great to include them before
> release.

Include what?

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Bug#860515: Many translations missing in french KDE lang packages while we're close to release

[Julien Aubin]

>
>
>
> > This is why to me this bug is a showstopper for release, as
> > there are many French Debian users around (incl. Africa and Quebec) and
> > such an issue makes UX issue look... amateurish.
>
> This is still not a reason to make this bug "grave" from the beginning,
> with only generic and unhelpful instructions on *where* to find the
> issue.
>
> For the rest of the details, see my other email.
>
> > For apps with full untranslated sections, adding the files I below would
> > solve the issue.
>
> Not really, no. This list has no utility, other than "some things where
> not translated to French in software currently packaged in Debian".
>

Okay I understand. Now it would be really great to include them before
release.

>
> --
> Pino Toscano

Bug#860515: Many translations missing in french KDE lang packages while we're close to release

[Julien Aubin]

2017-04-27 22:15 GMT+02:00 Pino Toscano :

> In data giovedì 27 aprile 2017 21:37:24 CEST, Julien Aubin ha scritto:
> > For the apps, basically you can pick any KDE Qt5 app except :
> > - Plasma configuration elements
>
> Which are? As I said, please be *specific*: provide step-to-step
> instructions of what should be tried to reproduce the issue. Generic
> statements or locations do not help.
>

Right click on K menu, then settings, check that translations are correct.
Now in Konsole, click "configuration", then "configurer les raccourcis
clavier", then check that translations are incorrect.
In system settings, open any of the settings (for example display but it
applies anywhere) and check that translations are incorrect in the bottom
pane with OK/Apply/...
In Dolphin open the settings window, the same, "OK/Apply/Cancel" buttons
are incorrectly translated.
In Kmail, the same.

>
> > - Kopete
> > - Okular
>
> They are not Qt5 applications.
>
> > Affected apps notably include :
> > - System settings
> > - Dolphin
> > - Kontact
> > - KDE Games
> > ... actually 80% of all the apps have their "OK/Apply/Cancel" buttons
> > untranslated in French + configure keyboard shortcuts window
> untranslated.
>
> These strings are all fuzzy (so unused) in the translations of the
> kwidgetsaddons framework (src:kwidgetsaddons, see the binary
> libkf5widgetsaddons-data proving them). It looks like the French
> translations in that framework were greatly improved in version 5.29
> (Debian currently has 5.28), and that strings were not changed between
> these two versions, so cherry-picking kwidgetsaddons/fr/5.29 could be
> an option.
>

I also think so. I can test if if you provide me the packages (hoping it
does not break my whole system).

Many thanks

>
> --
> Pino Toscano

Bug#860515: Many translations missing in french KDE lang packages while we're close to release

[Pino Toscano]

In data giovedì 27 aprile 2017 22:10:57 CEST, Julien Aubin ha scritto:
> > Please be specific, without expressions like "many missing transitions",
> > "most of the windows", and similar.  Which windows of which applications
> > have untranslated buttons?
> 
> Actually not all KDE games are affected either. For example KSudoku is not,
> while Granatier is for example.

ksudoku is a kdelibs4/qt4 application, while granatier is a kf5/qt5
application:

$ ldd /usr/games/ksudoku | grep QtCore
libQtCore.so.4 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4 
(0x7f86ee76b000)
$ ldd /usr/games/granatier | grep Qt5Core
libQt5Core.so.5 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Core.so.5 
(0x7f3200172000)

The rest of the examples follow the same pattern.

> This is why to me this bug is a showstopper for release, as
> there are many French Debian users around (incl. Africa and Quebec) and
> such an issue makes UX issue look... amateurish.

This is still not a reason to make this bug "grave" from the beginning,
with only generic and unhelpful instructions on *where* to find the
issue.

For the rest of the details, see my other email.

> For apps with full untranslated sections, adding the files I below would
> solve the issue.

Not really, no. This list has no utility, other than "some things where
not translated to French in software currently packaged in Debian".

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Bug#860515: Many translations missing in french KDE lang packages while we're close to release

[Pino Toscano]

In data giovedì 27 aprile 2017 21:37:24 CEST, Julien Aubin ha scritto:
> For the apps, basically you can pick any KDE Qt5 app except :
> - Plasma configuration elements

Which are? As I said, please be *specific*: provide step-to-step
instructions of what should be tried to reproduce the issue. Generic
statements or locations do not help.

> - Kopete
> - Okular

They are not Qt5 applications.

> Affected apps notably include :
> - System settings
> - Dolphin
> - Kontact
> - KDE Games
> ... actually 80% of all the apps have their "OK/Apply/Cancel" buttons
> untranslated in French + configure keyboard shortcuts window untranslated.

These strings are all fuzzy (so unused) in the translations of the
kwidgetsaddons framework (src:kwidgetsaddons, see the binary
libkf5widgetsaddons-data proving them). It looks like the French
translations in that framework were greatly improved in version 5.29
(Debian currently has 5.28), and that strings were not changed between
these two versions, so cherry-picking kwidgetsaddons/fr/5.29 could be
an option.

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Bug#860515: Many translations missing in french KDE lang packages while we're close to release

[Julien Aubin]

2017-04-27 21:37 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :

> For the apps, basically you can pick any KDE Qt5 app except :
> - Plasma configuration elements
> - Kopete
> - Okular
>
> Affected apps notably include :
> - System settings
> - Dolphin
> - Kontact
> - KDE Games
> ... actually 80% of all the apps have their "OK/Apply/Cancel" buttons
> untranslated in French + configure keyboard shortcuts window untranslated.
>

> Please be specific, without expressions like "many missing transitions",
> "most of the windows", and similar.  Which windows of which applications
> have untranslated buttons?

Actually not all KDE games are affected either. For example KSudoku is not,
while Granatier is for example. However a proportion of  80% of 16.04
software suite affected apps seems to be a fair one. In order to reproduce
issue :

- DO : Install kde-full
- DO : Install kde-l10n-fr and use French as the language for a new profile
- DO : Install kde-l10n-pl and use Polish as the language for a new profile
- DO : on both sides launch apps listed above, like Dolphin, Kontact,
Konsole, System settings, ...
- EXPECT : on both sides OK/Cancel/Apply/Default/Help buttons should be
translated in the bottom buttons of windows, and the configure shortcuts
window should be translated, incl. bottom buttons
- ACTUAL : it is not the case w/ French in most of the cases (while it is
the case in Polish - example of cases which do not work in French :
Konsole, example of case which works : KSudoku)

Listing all the windows would be too long as having English bottom buttons
in French turns out to be the common case, and correctly translated buttons
the exception, which explains why I say "many" and cannot list all the
affected apps. This is why to me this bug is a showstopper for release, as
there are many French Debian users around (incl. Africa and Quebec) and
such an issue makes UX issue look... amateurish.

For apps with full untranslated sections, adding the files I below would
solve the issue. Affected files :
baloomonitorplugin.mo
bluedevil.mo
customtoolsplugin.mo
elfutils.mo
gnupg2.mo
gom.mo
json_kdeedu_artikulate.mo
json_kdeedu_cantor.mo
json_kdenetwork_krfb.mo
json_kdenetwork_ktp-common-internals.mo
json_pim_kdepim-addons.mo
kaddressbook_plugins.mo
kate-replicode-plugin.mo
kdeconnect-cli.mo
kdeconnect-core.mo
kdeconnect-fileitemaction.mo
kdeconnect-kcm.mo
kdeconnect-kded.mo
kdeconnect-kio.mo
kdeconnect-plugins.mo
kexixbasedriver.mo
kmail_plugins.mo
kscreenlocker_greet.mo
kscreenlocker.mo
ksshaskpass.mo
kterustcompletion.mo
libkirigamiplugin_qt.qm
liboxygenstyleconfig.mo
libpurpose_quick.mo
libpurpose_widgets.mo
messageviewerheaderplugins.mo
messageviewerplugins.mo
oxygen_style_config.mo
oxygen_style_demo.mo
phodav-2.0.mo
plasma_applet_org.kde.kdeconnect.mo
plasma_applet_org.kde.plasma.bluetooth.mo
plasma_applet_org.kde.plasma.mediaframe.mo
plasma_applet_org.kde.plasma.minimizeall.mo
purpose_imgur.mo
purpose_ktp-sendfile.mo
purpose_pastebin.mo
purpose_saveas.mo
purpose_youtube.mo
screenlocker_kcm.mo
tabswitcherplugin.mo
texinfo_document.mo
texinfo.mo
user_manager.mo

But these files do not affect the OK/Apply/Cancel buttons

Rgds

>
> 2017-04-27 21:29 GMT+02:00 Pino Toscano :
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> please do not top-post, which is a poor practice brought by gmail.
>>
>> In data giovedì 27 aprile 2017 21:15:29 CEST, Julien Aubin ha scritto:
>> > > Yup, I do have. But the missing files might be enough to explain the
>> many
>> > > missing translations appearing in the UI.
>>
>> Not really, no. Most of them are translations for PIM stuff
>> (kaddressbook & kmail), and a couple of minor kate plugins.
>>
>> > Note that in some apps and in Plasma configuration windows
>> OK/Apply/Cancel
>> > buttons are correctly translated for example. I suspect that one of
>> these
>> > files causes most of the windows to have untranslated buttons,
>>
>>
>>
>> > and the
>> > missing files for kaddressbook and kmail explain why for example the
>> > antivirus/antispam wizard is not translated in Kmail.
>>
>> That's correct, the antispam & antivirus wizards are translated in
>> kmail_plugins.mo.
>>
>> --
>> Pino Toscano
>
>
>

Bug#860515: Many translations missing in french KDE lang packages while we're close to release

[Julien Aubin]

2017-04-27 21:29 GMT+02:00 Pino Toscano :

> Hi,
>
> please do not top-post, which is a poor practice brought by gmail.
>

Sorry for my two previous emails, did not see this (and yup it is a poor
Gmail practice)

>
> In data giovedì 27 aprile 2017 21:15:29 CEST, Julien Aubin ha scritto:
> > > Yup, I do have. But the missing files might be enough to explain the
> many
> > > missing translations appearing in the UI.
>
> Not really, no. Most of them are translations for PIM stuff
> (kaddressbook & kmail), and a couple of minor kate plugins.
>
> > Note that in some apps and in Plasma configuration windows
> OK/Apply/Cancel
> > buttons are correctly translated for example. I suspect that one of these
> > files causes most of the windows to have untranslated buttons,
>
> Please be specific, without expressions like "many missing transitions",
> "most of the windows", and similar.  Which windows of which applications
> have untranslated buttons?
>
> > and the
> > missing files for kaddressbook and kmail explain why for example the
> > antivirus/antispam wizard is not translated in Kmail.
>
> That's correct, the antispam & antivirus wizards are translated in
> kmail_plugins.mo.
>
> --
> Pino Toscano

Bug#860515: Many translations missing in french KDE lang packages while we're close to release

[Julien Aubin]

For the apps, basically you can pick any KDE Qt5 app except :
- Plasma configuration elements
- Kopete
- Okular

Affected apps notably include :
- System settings
- Dolphin
- Kontact
- KDE Games
... actually 80% of all the apps have their "OK/Apply/Cancel" buttons
untranslated in French + configure keyboard shortcuts window untranslated.

2017-04-27 21:29 GMT+02:00 Pino Toscano :

> Hi,
>
> please do not top-post, which is a poor practice brought by gmail.
>
> In data giovedì 27 aprile 2017 21:15:29 CEST, Julien Aubin ha scritto:
> > > Yup, I do have. But the missing files might be enough to explain the
> many
> > > missing translations appearing in the UI.
>
> Not really, no. Most of them are translations for PIM stuff
> (kaddressbook & kmail), and a couple of minor kate plugins.
>
> > Note that in some apps and in Plasma configuration windows
> OK/Apply/Cancel
> > buttons are correctly translated for example. I suspect that one of these
> > files causes most of the windows to have untranslated buttons,
>
> Please be specific, without expressions like "many missing transitions",
> "most of the windows", and similar.  Which windows of which applications
> have untranslated buttons?
>
> > and the
> > missing files for kaddressbook and kmail explain why for example the
> > antivirus/antispam wizard is not translated in Kmail.
>
> That's correct, the antispam & antivirus wizards are translated in
> kmail_plugins.mo.
>
> --
> Pino Toscano

Bug#860515: Many translations missing in french KDE lang packages while we're close to release

[Pino Toscano]

Hi,

please do not top-post, which is a poor practice brought by gmail.

In data giovedì 27 aprile 2017 21:15:29 CEST, Julien Aubin ha scritto:
> > Yup, I do have. But the missing files might be enough to explain the many
> > missing translations appearing in the UI.

Not really, no. Most of them are translations for PIM stuff
(kaddressbook & kmail), and a couple of minor kate plugins.

> Note that in some apps and in Plasma configuration windows OK/Apply/Cancel
> buttons are correctly translated for example. I suspect that one of these
> files causes most of the windows to have untranslated buttons,

Please be specific, without expressions like "many missing transitions",
"most of the windows", and similar.  Which windows of which applications
have untranslated buttons?

> and the
> missing files for kaddressbook and kmail explain why for example the
> antivirus/antispam wizard is not translated in Kmail.

That's correct, the antispam & antivirus wizards are translated in
kmail_plugins.mo.

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Bug#860515: Many translations missing in french KDE lang packages while we're close to release

[Julien Aubin]

After comparing further I found out the following files are actually
missing in the French flavour :
baloomonitorplugin.mo
bluedevil.mo
customtoolsplugin.mo
elfutils.mo
gnupg2.mo
gom.mo
json_kdeedu_artikulate.mo
json_kdeedu_cantor.mo
json_kdenetwork_krfb.mo
json_kdenetwork_ktp-common-internals.mo
json_pim_kdepim-addons.mo
kaddressbook_plugins.mo
kate-replicode-plugin.mo
kdeconnect-cli.mo
kdeconnect-core.mo
kdeconnect-fileitemaction.mo
kdeconnect-kcm.mo
kdeconnect-kded.mo
kdeconnect-kio.mo
kdeconnect-plugins.mo
kexixbasedriver.mo
kmail_plugins.mo
kscreenlocker_greet.mo
kscreenlocker.mo
ksshaskpass.mo
kterustcompletion.mo
libkirigamiplugin_qt.qm
liboxygenstyleconfig.mo
libpurpose_quick.mo
libpurpose_widgets.mo
messageviewerheaderplugins.mo
messageviewerplugins.mo
oxygen_style_config.mo
oxygen_style_demo.mo
phodav-2.0.mo
plasma_applet_org.kde.kdeconnect.mo
plasma_applet_org.kde.plasma.bluetooth.mo
plasma_applet_org.kde.plasma.mediaframe.mo
plasma_applet_org.kde.plasma.minimizeall.mo
purpose_imgur.mo
purpose_ktp-sendfile.mo
purpose_pastebin.mo
purpose_saveas.mo
purpose_youtube.mo
screenlocker_kcm.mo
tabswitcherplugin.mo
texinfo_document.mo
texinfo.mo
user_manager.mo


2017-04-27 21:08 GMT+02:00 Pino Toscano :

> In data giovedì 27 aprile 2017 20:35:04 CEST, Julien Aubin ha scritto:
> > NB : to be more precise in kde-l10n-fr many files are missing under
> > /usr/share/locale/LC_MESSAGES/fr compared to the Polish flavour of the
> > package.
>
> Many? Not really:
>
> $ apt-get download kde-l10n-fr
> $ apt-get download kde-l10n-pl
> $ dpkg -x kde-l10n-fr_4%3a16.04.3-1_all.deb fr
> $ dpkg -x kde-l10n-pl_4%3a16.04.3-1_all.deb pl
> $ rm {fr,pl}/usr/share/locale/*/LC_MESSAGES/json_*.mo
> (removing json_*.mo files, since they are not used at runtime, but only
> in the sources to fill translations in json files, statically)
>
> $ diff -u \
>   <(cd fr/usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES && ls *.mo | sort) \
>   <(cd pl/usr/share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES && ls *.mo | sort)
> --- /dev/fd/63  2017-04-27 21:06:20.283683338 +0200
> +++ /dev/fd/62  2017-04-27 21:06:20.283683338 +0200
> @@ -67,6 +67,7 @@
>  contactprintthemeeditor.mo
>  contactthemeeditor.mo
>  cryptopageplugin.mo
> +customtoolsplugin.mo
>  cvsservice.mo
>  dirfilterplugin.mo
>  display.mo
> @@ -95,6 +96,7 @@
>  kactivitymanagerd_fileitem_linking_plugin.mo
>  kactivitymanagerd.mo
>  kaddressbook.mo
> +kaddressbook_plugins.mo
>  kajongg.mo
>  kalarm.mo
>  kalgebra.mo
> @@ -113,6 +115,7 @@
>  kate.mo
>  kateopenheader.mo
>  kateproject.mo
> +kate-replicode-plugin.mo
>  katesearch.mo
>  katesnippetsplugin.mo
>  katesql.mo
> @@ -262,6 +265,7 @@
>  kmag.mo
>  kmahjongg.mo
>  kmail.mo
> +kmail_plugins.mo
>  kmines.mo
>  kmix.mo
>  kmousetool.mo
> @@ -319,6 +323,7 @@
>  ksystemlog.mo
>  ksystraycmd.mo
>  kteatime.mo
> +kterustcompletion.mo
>  ktimer.mo
>  ktnef.mo
>  ktouch.mo
> @@ -412,6 +417,8 @@
>  marble.mo
>  mboximporter.mo
>  messageviewer_application_mstnef_plugin.mo
> +messageviewerheaderplugins.mo
> +messageviewerplugins.mo
>  messageviewer_text_calendar_plugin.mo
>  messageviewer_text_vcard_plugin.mo
>  mf_konqplugin.mo
> @@ -556,6 +563,7 @@
>  strigila_diff.mo
>  svgpart.mo
>  sweeper.mo
> +tabswitcherplugin.mo
>  timezones4.mo
>  uachangerplugin.mo
>  umbrello.mo
>
> So kde-l10n-fr contains almost all the files that kde-l10n-pl provides.
>
> Also, your note about translations from kcmkeys.mo makes no sense,
> as that file is only used for that specific module in system settings.
>
> Furthermore, do you have qttranslations5-l10n installed, in addition
> to kde-l10n-fr?
>
> --
> Pino Toscano

Bug#860515: Many translations missing in french KDE lang packages while we're close to release

[Pino Toscano]

In data giovedì 27 aprile 2017 20:35:04 CEST, Julien Aubin ha scritto:
> NB : to be more precise in kde-l10n-fr many files are missing under
> /usr/share/locale/LC_MESSAGES/fr compared to the Polish flavour of the
> package.

Many? Not really:

$ apt-get download kde-l10n-fr
$ apt-get download kde-l10n-pl
$ dpkg -x kde-l10n-fr_4%3a16.04.3-1_all.deb fr
$ dpkg -x kde-l10n-pl_4%3a16.04.3-1_all.deb pl
$ rm {fr,pl}/usr/share/locale/*/LC_MESSAGES/json_*.mo
(removing json_*.mo files, since they are not used at runtime, but only
in the sources to fill translations in json files, statically)

$ diff -u \
  <(cd fr/usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES && ls *.mo | sort) \
  <(cd pl/usr/share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES && ls *.mo | sort)
--- /dev/fd/63  2017-04-27 21:06:20.283683338 +0200
+++ /dev/fd/62  2017-04-27 21:06:20.283683338 +0200
@@ -67,6 +67,7 @@
 contactprintthemeeditor.mo
 contactthemeeditor.mo
 cryptopageplugin.mo
+customtoolsplugin.mo
 cvsservice.mo
 dirfilterplugin.mo
 display.mo
@@ -95,6 +96,7 @@
 kactivitymanagerd_fileitem_linking_plugin.mo
 kactivitymanagerd.mo
 kaddressbook.mo
+kaddressbook_plugins.mo
 kajongg.mo
 kalarm.mo
 kalgebra.mo
@@ -113,6 +115,7 @@
 kate.mo
 kateopenheader.mo
 kateproject.mo
+kate-replicode-plugin.mo
 katesearch.mo
 katesnippetsplugin.mo
 katesql.mo
@@ -262,6 +265,7 @@
 kmag.mo
 kmahjongg.mo
 kmail.mo
+kmail_plugins.mo
 kmines.mo
 kmix.mo
 kmousetool.mo
@@ -319,6 +323,7 @@
 ksystemlog.mo
 ksystraycmd.mo
 kteatime.mo
+kterustcompletion.mo
 ktimer.mo
 ktnef.mo
 ktouch.mo
@@ -412,6 +417,8 @@
 marble.mo
 mboximporter.mo
 messageviewer_application_mstnef_plugin.mo
+messageviewerheaderplugins.mo
+messageviewerplugins.mo
 messageviewer_text_calendar_plugin.mo
 messageviewer_text_vcard_plugin.mo
 mf_konqplugin.mo
@@ -556,6 +563,7 @@
 strigila_diff.mo
 svgpart.mo
 sweeper.mo
+tabswitcherplugin.mo
 timezones4.mo
 uachangerplugin.mo
 umbrello.mo

So kde-l10n-fr contains almost all the files that kde-l10n-pl provides.

Also, your note about translations from kcmkeys.mo makes no sense,
as that file is only used for that specific module in system settings.

Furthermore, do you have qttranslations5-l10n installed, in addition
to kde-l10n-fr?

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Bug#860515: Many translations missing in french KDE lang packages while we're close to release

[Julien Aubin]

Note that in some apps and in Plasma configuration windows OK/Apply/Cancel
buttons are correctly translated for example. I suspect that one of these
files causes most of the windows to have untranslated buttons, and the
missing files for kaddressbook and kmail explain why for example the
antivirus/antispam wizard is not translated in Kmail.

2017-04-27 21:10 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :

> Yup, I do have. But the missing files might be enough to explain the many
> missing translations appearing in the UI.
>
> 2017-04-27 21:08 GMT+02:00 Pino Toscano :
>
>> In data giovedì 27 aprile 2017 20:35:04 CEST, Julien Aubin ha scritto:
>> > NB : to be more precise in kde-l10n-fr many files are missing under
>> > /usr/share/locale/LC_MESSAGES/fr compared to the Polish flavour of the
>> > package.
>>
>> Many? Not really:
>>
>> $ apt-get download kde-l10n-fr
>> $ apt-get download kde-l10n-pl
>> $ dpkg -x kde-l10n-fr_4%3a16.04.3-1_all.deb fr
>> $ dpkg -x kde-l10n-pl_4%3a16.04.3-1_all.deb pl
>> $ rm {fr,pl}/usr/share/locale/*/LC_MESSAGES/json_*.mo
>> (removing json_*.mo files, since they are not used at runtime, but only
>> in the sources to fill translations in json files, statically)
>>
>> $ diff -u \
>>   <(cd fr/usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES && ls *.mo | sort) \
>>   <(cd pl/usr/share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES && ls *.mo | sort)
>> --- /dev/fd/63  2017-04-27 21:06:20.283683338 +0200
>> +++ /dev/fd/62  2017-04-27 21:06:20.283683338 +0200
>> @@ -67,6 +67,7 @@
>>  contactprintthemeeditor.mo
>>  contactthemeeditor.mo
>>  cryptopageplugin.mo
>> +customtoolsplugin.mo
>>  cvsservice.mo
>>  dirfilterplugin.mo
>>  display.mo
>> @@ -95,6 +96,7 @@
>>  kactivitymanagerd_fileitem_linking_plugin.mo
>>  kactivitymanagerd.mo
>>  kaddressbook.mo
>> +kaddressbook_plugins.mo
>>  kajongg.mo
>>  kalarm.mo
>>  kalgebra.mo
>> @@ -113,6 +115,7 @@
>>  kate.mo
>>  kateopenheader.mo
>>  kateproject.mo
>> +kate-replicode-plugin.mo
>>  katesearch.mo
>>  katesnippetsplugin.mo
>>  katesql.mo
>> @@ -262,6 +265,7 @@
>>  kmag.mo
>>  kmahjongg.mo
>>  kmail.mo
>> +kmail_plugins.mo
>>  kmines.mo
>>  kmix.mo
>>  kmousetool.mo
>> @@ -319,6 +323,7 @@
>>  ksystemlog.mo
>>  ksystraycmd.mo
>>  kteatime.mo
>> +kterustcompletion.mo
>>  ktimer.mo
>>  ktnef.mo
>>  ktouch.mo
>> @@ -412,6 +417,8 @@
>>  marble.mo
>>  mboximporter.mo
>>  messageviewer_application_mstnef_plugin.mo
>> +messageviewerheaderplugins.mo
>> +messageviewerplugins.mo
>>  messageviewer_text_calendar_plugin.mo
>>  messageviewer_text_vcard_plugin.mo
>>  mf_konqplugin.mo
>> @@ -556,6 +563,7 @@
>>  strigila_diff.mo
>>  svgpart.mo
>>  sweeper.mo
>> +tabswitcherplugin.mo
>>  timezones4.mo
>>  uachangerplugin.mo
>>  umbrello.mo
>>
>> So kde-l10n-fr contains almost all the files that kde-l10n-pl provides.
>>
>> Also, your note about translations from kcmkeys.mo makes no sense,
>> as that file is only used for that specific module in system settings.
>>
>> Furthermore, do you have qttranslations5-l10n installed, in addition
>> to kde-l10n-fr?
>>
>> --
>> Pino Toscano
>
>
>

Bug#860515: Many translations missing in french KDE lang packages while we're close to release

[Julien Aubin]

Yup, I do have. But the missing files might be enough to explain the many
missing translations appearing in the UI.

2017-04-27 21:08 GMT+02:00 Pino Toscano :

> In data giovedì 27 aprile 2017 20:35:04 CEST, Julien Aubin ha scritto:
> > NB : to be more precise in kde-l10n-fr many files are missing under
> > /usr/share/locale/LC_MESSAGES/fr compared to the Polish flavour of the
> > package.
>
> Many? Not really:
>
> $ apt-get download kde-l10n-fr
> $ apt-get download kde-l10n-pl
> $ dpkg -x kde-l10n-fr_4%3a16.04.3-1_all.deb fr
> $ dpkg -x kde-l10n-pl_4%3a16.04.3-1_all.deb pl
> $ rm {fr,pl}/usr/share/locale/*/LC_MESSAGES/json_*.mo
> (removing json_*.mo files, since they are not used at runtime, but only
> in the sources to fill translations in json files, statically)
>
> $ diff -u \
>   <(cd fr/usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES && ls *.mo | sort) \
>   <(cd pl/usr/share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES && ls *.mo | sort)
> --- /dev/fd/63  2017-04-27 21:06:20.283683338 +0200
> +++ /dev/fd/62  2017-04-27 21:06:20.283683338 +0200
> @@ -67,6 +67,7 @@
>  contactprintthemeeditor.mo
>  contactthemeeditor.mo
>  cryptopageplugin.mo
> +customtoolsplugin.mo
>  cvsservice.mo
>  dirfilterplugin.mo
>  display.mo
> @@ -95,6 +96,7 @@
>  kactivitymanagerd_fileitem_linking_plugin.mo
>  kactivitymanagerd.mo
>  kaddressbook.mo
> +kaddressbook_plugins.mo
>  kajongg.mo
>  kalarm.mo
>  kalgebra.mo
> @@ -113,6 +115,7 @@
>  kate.mo
>  kateopenheader.mo
>  kateproject.mo
> +kate-replicode-plugin.mo
>  katesearch.mo
>  katesnippetsplugin.mo
>  katesql.mo
> @@ -262,6 +265,7 @@
>  kmag.mo
>  kmahjongg.mo
>  kmail.mo
> +kmail_plugins.mo
>  kmines.mo
>  kmix.mo
>  kmousetool.mo
> @@ -319,6 +323,7 @@
>  ksystemlog.mo
>  ksystraycmd.mo
>  kteatime.mo
> +kterustcompletion.mo
>  ktimer.mo
>  ktnef.mo
>  ktouch.mo
> @@ -412,6 +417,8 @@
>  marble.mo
>  mboximporter.mo
>  messageviewer_application_mstnef_plugin.mo
> +messageviewerheaderplugins.mo
> +messageviewerplugins.mo
>  messageviewer_text_calendar_plugin.mo
>  messageviewer_text_vcard_plugin.mo
>  mf_konqplugin.mo
> @@ -556,6 +563,7 @@
>  strigila_diff.mo
>  svgpart.mo
>  sweeper.mo
> +tabswitcherplugin.mo
>  timezones4.mo
>  uachangerplugin.mo
>  umbrello.mo
>
> So kde-l10n-fr contains almost all the files that kde-l10n-pl provides.
>
> Also, your note about translations from kcmkeys.mo makes no sense,
> as that file is only used for that specific module in system settings.
>
> Furthermore, do you have qttranslations5-l10n installed, in addition
> to kde-l10n-fr?
>
> --
> Pino Toscano

Bug#860515: Many translations missing in french KDE lang packages while we're close to release

[Julien Aubin]

NB : to be more precise in kde-l10n-fr many files are missing under
/usr/share/locale/LC_MESSAGES/fr compared to the Polish flavour of the
package.

So either it is a miss in the package build process, either these files
have been added since then.

2017-04-27 20:18 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :

> Hi,
>
> To help you debug stuff I compared the file lists in kde-l10n-fr and
> kde-l10n-pl... Process was :
> 1/ dpkg-query -L kde-l10n-pl on the polish computer
> 2/ s!/pl/!/fr/!g
> 3/ dpkg-query -L kde-l10n-fr on the french computer
> 4/ compare the file list result
>
> It turns out that, unexpectedly, file lists in both packages notably
> differ. See attachment (filelist-kde-l10n-expected = the file list which is
> a result of kde-l10n-pl with /pl/ substituted with /fr/)
>
> Attached all file lists.
>
> By the way, do you have any update on the issue ?
>
> 2017-04-26 8:11 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Do you have any update towards this issue ? It would be a shame towards
>> UX that Debian Stretch is released which such an issue that clearly damages
>> its image and all the hard work you've done on other sides (btw Debian is
>> an awesome OS)
>>
>> Thanks and please tell me if there's something I can do to provide you
>> some more info.
>>
>> 2017-04-24 15:35 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
>>
>>> Another example of unaffected app : Okular.
>>>
>>> But for ex Dolphin is.
>>>
>>> Looks like to me some translation files do not reference correctly the
>>> translations in the core files as the affected translations are located in
>>> files like kcmkeys.mo for the configure keyboard shortcut window common to
>>> many apps. In Okular its translation is correct but not in Dolphin.
>>>
>>> Le 24 avr. 2017 12:02, "Julien Aubin"  a écrit :
>>>
 Hi

 Btw after checking not all Qt5 apps are affected (Kopete and Plasma
 widget settings are not) but most are. It looks specific to French
 translations as Polish ones are not affected.

 Moreover Kmail is especially poorly translated w/ many untranslated
 menus and antispam / antivirus wizards fully untranslated

 Le 23 avr. 2017 17:40, "Julien Aubin"  a
 écrit :

> Hi,
>
> Nope, Qt5 ones. Qt4 ones work correctly.
>
>
>
> 2017-04-23 15:44 GMT+02:00 Sandro Knauß :
>
>> Hey,
>>
>> just a wild guess: Are the affected applications one that are Qt4
>> ones. As we
>> have already a bunch of Qt4 ones in the repos this can be the
>> problem, why the
>> translations are not loaded correctly?
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> sandro
>>
>> --
>>
>> On Sonntag, 23. April 2017 09:59:34 CEST Julien Aubin wrote:
>> > Basically plasmoid settings panels are not affected.
>> >
>> > Please let me know if I can do anything to help you investigating
>> (or if
>> > you have some custom-built kde-l10n package to test).
>> >
>> > Rgds
>> >
>> > 2017-04-23 9:55 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > Some apps which rely on kde-l10n-fr are not affected as well, as
>> when you
>> > > right-click on K menu, then app launcher settings. So there must
>> be
>> > > something wrong in the translation files of the other apps.
>> (Reminder :
>> > > for
>> > > Kmail and Systemsettings, polish language does not face such an
>> issue, so
>> > > it is directly related to French translations.)
>> > >
>> > > Do you have any update on your side for this issue ?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks
>> > >
>> > > 2017-04-22 8:01 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
>> > >> Hi,
>> > >>
>> > >> Sorry for the spam but after hacking again I found out that many
>> of the
>> > >> conflicting translations are located in
>> > >> /usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/kcmkeys.mo (at least for the
>> customize
>> > >> shortcut keys window). Kopete references them well while it is
>> not the
>> > >> case for apps which use the standard kde-l10n-fr package.
>> > >>
>> > >> Looks like there's something faultly in the way the standard
>> kde-l10n-fr
>> > >> package is built as packages that do not use it directly are not
>> > >> affected.
>> > >>
>> > >> 2017-04-22 7:05 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
>> > >>> Hi,
>> > >>>
>> > >>> After digging some more Calligra is not affected as well.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Basically I just found out that unaffected apps (Kopete,
>> Calligra)
>> > >>> feature their own l10n package and do not rely on the global
>> kde-l10n-fr
>> > >>> package. So it looks like the latter one is really the issue.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Could you give me an update about it ASAP so that I could test

Bug#860515: Many translations missing in french KDE lang packages while we're close to release

[Julien Aubin]

Hi,

Do you have any update towards this issue ? It would be a shame towards UX
that Debian Stretch is released which such an issue that clearly damages
its image and all the hard work you've done on other sides (btw Debian is
an awesome OS)

Thanks and please tell me if there's something I can do to provide you some
more info.

2017-04-24 15:35 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :

> Another example of unaffected app : Okular.
>
> But for ex Dolphin is.
>
> Looks like to me some translation files do not reference correctly the
> translations in the core files as the affected translations are located in
> files like kcmkeys.mo for the configure keyboard shortcut window common to
> many apps. In Okular its translation is correct but not in Dolphin.
>
> Le 24 avr. 2017 12:02, "Julien Aubin"  a écrit :
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Btw after checking not all Qt5 apps are affected (Kopete and Plasma
>> widget settings are not) but most are. It looks specific to French
>> translations as Polish ones are not affected.
>>
>> Moreover Kmail is especially poorly translated w/ many untranslated menus
>> and antispam / antivirus wizards fully untranslated
>>
>> Le 23 avr. 2017 17:40, "Julien Aubin"  a écrit :
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Nope, Qt5 ones. Qt4 ones work correctly.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2017-04-23 15:44 GMT+02:00 Sandro Knauß :
>>>
 Hey,

 just a wild guess: Are the affected applications one that are Qt4 ones.
 As we
 have already a bunch of Qt4 ones in the repos this can be the problem,
 why the
 translations are not loaded correctly?

 Best Regards,

 sandro

 --

 On Sonntag, 23. April 2017 09:59:34 CEST Julien Aubin wrote:
 > Basically plasmoid settings panels are not affected.
 >
 > Please let me know if I can do anything to help you investigating (or
 if
 > you have some custom-built kde-l10n package to test).
 >
 > Rgds
 >
 > 2017-04-23 9:55 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
 > > Hi,
 > >
 > > Some apps which rely on kde-l10n-fr are not affected as well, as
 when you
 > > right-click on K menu, then app launcher settings. So there must be
 > > something wrong in the translation files of the other apps.
 (Reminder :
 > > for
 > > Kmail and Systemsettings, polish language does not face such an
 issue, so
 > > it is directly related to French translations.)
 > >
 > > Do you have any update on your side for this issue ?
 > >
 > > Thanks
 > >
 > > 2017-04-22 8:01 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
 > >> Hi,
 > >>
 > >> Sorry for the spam but after hacking again I found out that many
 of the
 > >> conflicting translations are located in
 > >> /usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/kcmkeys.mo (at least for the
 customize
 > >> shortcut keys window). Kopete references them well while it is not
 the
 > >> case for apps which use the standard kde-l10n-fr package.
 > >>
 > >> Looks like there's something faultly in the way the standard
 kde-l10n-fr
 > >> package is built as packages that do not use it directly are not
 > >> affected.
 > >>
 > >> 2017-04-22 7:05 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
 > >>> Hi,
 > >>>
 > >>> After digging some more Calligra is not affected as well.
 > >>>
 > >>> Basically I just found out that unaffected apps (Kopete, Calligra)
 > >>> feature their own l10n package and do not rely on the global
 kde-l10n-fr
 > >>> package. So it looks like the latter one is really the issue.
 > >>>
 > >>> Could you give me an update about it ASAP so that I could test
 more
 > >>> please ?
 > >>>
 > >>> Thanks a lot
 > >>>
 > >>> 2017-04-21 23:25 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
 >  Hi,
 > 
 >  Just checked with a new virgin session to ensure it was not wrong
 >  settings and my side and sadly it is not. The French
 translations in
 >  KDE
 >  have something wrong, definitely (as Polish translations for
 example
 >  are
 >  complete except for the few fields in Kmail editor settings)
 while the
 >  French ones are far from complete.
 > 
 >  Rgds
 > 
 >  2017-04-20 18:37 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
 > > After checking again on polish translations everything is there
 :
 > > ok/cancel properly translated, kmail antivirus/antispam wizard,
 ...
 > > The
 > > only missing translations is in Kmail settings / editor
 configuration.
 > >
 > > So the issue has definitely nothing to see with code but with
 faultly
 > > french lang package.
 > >
 > > Rgds
 > >
 > > 

Bug#860515: Many translations missing in french KDE lang packages while we're close to release

[Julien Aubin]

Another example of unaffected app : Okular.

But for ex Dolphin is.

Looks like to me some translation files do not reference correctly the
translations in the core files as the affected translations are located in
files like kcmkeys.mo for the configure keyboard shortcut window common to
many apps. In Okular its translation is correct but not in Dolphin.

Le 24 avr. 2017 12:02, "Julien Aubin"  a écrit :

> Hi
>
> Btw after checking not all Qt5 apps are affected (Kopete and Plasma widget
> settings are not) but most are. It looks specific to French translations as
> Polish ones are not affected.
>
> Moreover Kmail is especially poorly translated w/ many untranslated menus
> and antispam / antivirus wizards fully untranslated
>
> Le 23 avr. 2017 17:40, "Julien Aubin"  a écrit :
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Nope, Qt5 ones. Qt4 ones work correctly.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2017-04-23 15:44 GMT+02:00 Sandro Knauß :
>>
>>> Hey,
>>>
>>> just a wild guess: Are the affected applications one that are Qt4 ones.
>>> As we
>>> have already a bunch of Qt4 ones in the repos this can be the problem,
>>> why the
>>> translations are not loaded correctly?
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> sandro
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> On Sonntag, 23. April 2017 09:59:34 CEST Julien Aubin wrote:
>>> > Basically plasmoid settings panels are not affected.
>>> >
>>> > Please let me know if I can do anything to help you investigating (or
>>> if
>>> > you have some custom-built kde-l10n package to test).
>>> >
>>> > Rgds
>>> >
>>> > 2017-04-23 9:55 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
>>> > > Hi,
>>> > >
>>> > > Some apps which rely on kde-l10n-fr are not affected as well, as
>>> when you
>>> > > right-click on K menu, then app launcher settings. So there must be
>>> > > something wrong in the translation files of the other apps.
>>> (Reminder :
>>> > > for
>>> > > Kmail and Systemsettings, polish language does not face such an
>>> issue, so
>>> > > it is directly related to French translations.)
>>> > >
>>> > > Do you have any update on your side for this issue ?
>>> > >
>>> > > Thanks
>>> > >
>>> > > 2017-04-22 8:01 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
>>> > >> Hi,
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Sorry for the spam but after hacking again I found out that many of
>>> the
>>> > >> conflicting translations are located in
>>> > >> /usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/kcmkeys.mo (at least for the
>>> customize
>>> > >> shortcut keys window). Kopete references them well while it is not
>>> the
>>> > >> case for apps which use the standard kde-l10n-fr package.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Looks like there's something faultly in the way the standard
>>> kde-l10n-fr
>>> > >> package is built as packages that do not use it directly are not
>>> > >> affected.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> 2017-04-22 7:05 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
>>> > >>> Hi,
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> After digging some more Calligra is not affected as well.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Basically I just found out that unaffected apps (Kopete, Calligra)
>>> > >>> feature their own l10n package and do not rely on the global
>>> kde-l10n-fr
>>> > >>> package. So it looks like the latter one is really the issue.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Could you give me an update about it ASAP so that I could test more
>>> > >>> please ?
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Thanks a lot
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> 2017-04-21 23:25 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
>>> >  Hi,
>>> > 
>>> >  Just checked with a new virgin session to ensure it was not wrong
>>> >  settings and my side and sadly it is not. The French translations
>>> in
>>> >  KDE
>>> >  have something wrong, definitely (as Polish translations for
>>> example
>>> >  are
>>> >  complete except for the few fields in Kmail editor settings)
>>> while the
>>> >  French ones are far from complete.
>>> > 
>>> >  Rgds
>>> > 
>>> >  2017-04-20 18:37 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
>>> > > After checking again on polish translations everything is there :
>>> > > ok/cancel properly translated, kmail antivirus/antispam wizard,
>>> ...
>>> > > The
>>> > > only missing translations is in Kmail settings / editor
>>> configuration.
>>> > >
>>> > > So the issue has definitely nothing to see with code but with
>>> faultly
>>> > > french lang package.
>>> > >
>>> > > Rgds
>>> > >
>>> > > 2017-04-20 10:35 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin >> >:
>>> > >> Hi
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Okay check in Kmail settings / editor configuration. Kmail
>>> antivirus
>>> > >> / antispam wizard left untranslated.
>>> > >> In system settings the confirm dialog does contain untranslated
>>> > >> buttons but situation has improved.
>>> > >> Window configure shortcuts in Dolphin / Konsole is partly left
>>> > >> untranslated (click manage schemes).
>>> > >> Kate menu file > save as with encoding
>>> > >>
>>> > 

Bug#860515: Many translations missing in french KDE lang packages while we're close to release

[Julien Aubin]

Hi

Btw after checking not all Qt5 apps are affected (Kopete and Plasma widget
settings are not) but most are. It looks specific to French translations as
Polish ones are not affected.

Moreover Kmail is especially poorly translated w/ many untranslated menus
and antispam / antivirus wizards fully untranslated

Le 23 avr. 2017 17:40, "Julien Aubin"  a écrit :

> Hi,
>
> Nope, Qt5 ones. Qt4 ones work correctly.
>
>
>
> 2017-04-23 15:44 GMT+02:00 Sandro Knauß :
>
>> Hey,
>>
>> just a wild guess: Are the affected applications one that are Qt4 ones.
>> As we
>> have already a bunch of Qt4 ones in the repos this can be the problem,
>> why the
>> translations are not loaded correctly?
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> sandro
>>
>> --
>>
>> On Sonntag, 23. April 2017 09:59:34 CEST Julien Aubin wrote:
>> > Basically plasmoid settings panels are not affected.
>> >
>> > Please let me know if I can do anything to help you investigating (or if
>> > you have some custom-built kde-l10n package to test).
>> >
>> > Rgds
>> >
>> > 2017-04-23 9:55 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > Some apps which rely on kde-l10n-fr are not affected as well, as when
>> you
>> > > right-click on K menu, then app launcher settings. So there must be
>> > > something wrong in the translation files of the other apps. (Reminder
>> :
>> > > for
>> > > Kmail and Systemsettings, polish language does not face such an
>> issue, so
>> > > it is directly related to French translations.)
>> > >
>> > > Do you have any update on your side for this issue ?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks
>> > >
>> > > 2017-04-22 8:01 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
>> > >> Hi,
>> > >>
>> > >> Sorry for the spam but after hacking again I found out that many of
>> the
>> > >> conflicting translations are located in
>> > >> /usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/kcmkeys.mo (at least for the
>> customize
>> > >> shortcut keys window). Kopete references them well while it is not
>> the
>> > >> case for apps which use the standard kde-l10n-fr package.
>> > >>
>> > >> Looks like there's something faultly in the way the standard
>> kde-l10n-fr
>> > >> package is built as packages that do not use it directly are not
>> > >> affected.
>> > >>
>> > >> 2017-04-22 7:05 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
>> > >>> Hi,
>> > >>>
>> > >>> After digging some more Calligra is not affected as well.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Basically I just found out that unaffected apps (Kopete, Calligra)
>> > >>> feature their own l10n package and do not rely on the global
>> kde-l10n-fr
>> > >>> package. So it looks like the latter one is really the issue.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Could you give me an update about it ASAP so that I could test more
>> > >>> please ?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Thanks a lot
>> > >>>
>> > >>> 2017-04-21 23:25 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
>> >  Hi,
>> > 
>> >  Just checked with a new virgin session to ensure it was not wrong
>> >  settings and my side and sadly it is not. The French translations
>> in
>> >  KDE
>> >  have something wrong, definitely (as Polish translations for
>> example
>> >  are
>> >  complete except for the few fields in Kmail editor settings) while
>> the
>> >  French ones are far from complete.
>> > 
>> >  Rgds
>> > 
>> >  2017-04-20 18:37 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
>> > > After checking again on polish translations everything is there :
>> > > ok/cancel properly translated, kmail antivirus/antispam wizard,
>> ...
>> > > The
>> > > only missing translations is in Kmail settings / editor
>> configuration.
>> > >
>> > > So the issue has definitely nothing to see with code but with
>> faultly
>> > > french lang package.
>> > >
>> > > Rgds
>> > >
>> > > 2017-04-20 10:35 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
>> > >> Hi
>> > >>
>> > >> Okay check in Kmail settings / editor configuration. Kmail
>> antivirus
>> > >> / antispam wizard left untranslated.
>> > >> In system settings the confirm dialog does contain untranslated
>> > >> buttons but situation has improved.
>> > >> Window configure shortcuts in Dolphin / Konsole is partly left
>> > >> untranslated (click manage schemes).
>> > >> Kate menu file > save as with encoding
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Polish locales ok / apply / cancel is translated. Now in
>> French
>> > >> translation is correct when you right click on the clock and
>> reach
>> > >> clock
>> > >> settings. Basically in French 95% of the bottom dialog buttons
>> are
>> > >> untranslated (ex : konsole settings) while polish is not
>> affected.
>> > >> Kopete is also fully translated.
>> > >>
>> > >> Kdevelop browse menu : jump to next / previous
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Note : if the issue was just ok / apply / cancel I would not
>> have set
>> > 

Bug#860515: Many translations missing in french KDE lang packages while we're close to release

[Julien Aubin]

Hi,

Nope, Qt5 ones. Qt4 ones work correctly.



2017-04-23 15:44 GMT+02:00 Sandro Knauß :

> Hey,
>
> just a wild guess: Are the affected applications one that are Qt4 ones. As
> we
> have already a bunch of Qt4 ones in the repos this can be the problem, why
> the
> translations are not loaded correctly?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> sandro
>
> --
>
> On Sonntag, 23. April 2017 09:59:34 CEST Julien Aubin wrote:
> > Basically plasmoid settings panels are not affected.
> >
> > Please let me know if I can do anything to help you investigating (or if
> > you have some custom-built kde-l10n package to test).
> >
> > Rgds
> >
> > 2017-04-23 9:55 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Some apps which rely on kde-l10n-fr are not affected as well, as when
> you
> > > right-click on K menu, then app launcher settings. So there must be
> > > something wrong in the translation files of the other apps. (Reminder :
> > > for
> > > Kmail and Systemsettings, polish language does not face such an issue,
> so
> > > it is directly related to French translations.)
> > >
> > > Do you have any update on your side for this issue ?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > 2017-04-22 8:01 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> Sorry for the spam but after hacking again I found out that many of
> the
> > >> conflicting translations are located in
> > >> /usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/kcmkeys.mo (at least for the
> customize
> > >> shortcut keys window). Kopete references them well while it is not the
> > >> case for apps which use the standard kde-l10n-fr package.
> > >>
> > >> Looks like there's something faultly in the way the standard
> kde-l10n-fr
> > >> package is built as packages that do not use it directly are not
> > >> affected.
> > >>
> > >> 2017-04-22 7:05 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>>
> > >>> After digging some more Calligra is not affected as well.
> > >>>
> > >>> Basically I just found out that unaffected apps (Kopete, Calligra)
> > >>> feature their own l10n package and do not rely on the global
> kde-l10n-fr
> > >>> package. So it looks like the latter one is really the issue.
> > >>>
> > >>> Could you give me an update about it ASAP so that I could test more
> > >>> please ?
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks a lot
> > >>>
> > >>> 2017-04-21 23:25 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
> >  Hi,
> > 
> >  Just checked with a new virgin session to ensure it was not wrong
> >  settings and my side and sadly it is not. The French translations in
> >  KDE
> >  have something wrong, definitely (as Polish translations for example
> >  are
> >  complete except for the few fields in Kmail editor settings) while
> the
> >  French ones are far from complete.
> > 
> >  Rgds
> > 
> >  2017-04-20 18:37 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
> > > After checking again on polish translations everything is there :
> > > ok/cancel properly translated, kmail antivirus/antispam wizard, ...
> > > The
> > > only missing translations is in Kmail settings / editor
> configuration.
> > >
> > > So the issue has definitely nothing to see with code but with
> faultly
> > > french lang package.
> > >
> > > Rgds
> > >
> > > 2017-04-20 10:35 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
> > >> Hi
> > >>
> > >> Okay check in Kmail settings / editor configuration. Kmail
> antivirus
> > >> / antispam wizard left untranslated.
> > >> In system settings the confirm dialog does contain untranslated
> > >> buttons but situation has improved.
> > >> Window configure shortcuts in Dolphin / Konsole is partly left
> > >> untranslated (click manage schemes).
> > >> Kate menu file > save as with encoding
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Polish locales ok / apply / cancel is translated. Now in French
> > >> translation is correct when you right click on the clock and reach
> > >> clock
> > >> settings. Basically in French 95% of the bottom dialog buttons are
> > >> untranslated (ex : konsole settings) while polish is not affected.
> > >> Kopete is also fully translated.
> > >>
> > >> Kdevelop browse menu : jump to next / previous
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Note : if the issue was just ok / apply / cancel I would not have
> set
> > >> such high severity.
> > >>
> > >> My locale : fr_FR.UTF-8
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Le 20 avr. 2017 10:12, "Maximiliano Curia"  a
> > >> écrit :
> > >>
> > >> ¡Hola Julien!
> > >>
> > >> El 2017-04-20 a las 09:53 +0200, Julien Aubin escribió:
> > >>> There are also many missing translations in Kmail, System
> settings
> > >>> and so on.
> > >>
> > >> "Many" is unspecific, we can't check for "many" missing
> translations,
> > >> if you are refering to the 

Bug#860515: Many translations missing in french KDE lang packages while we're close to release

[Sandro Knauß]

Hey,

just a wild guess: Are the affected applications one that are Qt4 ones. As we 
have already a bunch of Qt4 ones in the repos this can be the problem, why the 
translations are not loaded correctly?

Best Regards,

sandro

--

On Sonntag, 23. April 2017 09:59:34 CEST Julien Aubin wrote:
> Basically plasmoid settings panels are not affected.
> 
> Please let me know if I can do anything to help you investigating (or if
> you have some custom-built kde-l10n package to test).
> 
> Rgds
> 
> 2017-04-23 9:55 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Some apps which rely on kde-l10n-fr are not affected as well, as when you
> > right-click on K menu, then app launcher settings. So there must be
> > something wrong in the translation files of the other apps. (Reminder :
> > for
> > Kmail and Systemsettings, polish language does not face such an issue, so
> > it is directly related to French translations.)
> > 
> > Do you have any update on your side for this issue ?
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > 2017-04-22 8:01 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >> Sorry for the spam but after hacking again I found out that many of the
> >> conflicting translations are located in
> >> /usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/kcmkeys.mo (at least for the customize
> >> shortcut keys window). Kopete references them well while it is not the
> >> case for apps which use the standard kde-l10n-fr package.
> >> 
> >> Looks like there's something faultly in the way the standard kde-l10n-fr
> >> package is built as packages that do not use it directly are not
> >> affected.
> >> 
> >> 2017-04-22 7:05 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
> >>> Hi,
> >>> 
> >>> After digging some more Calligra is not affected as well.
> >>> 
> >>> Basically I just found out that unaffected apps (Kopete, Calligra)
> >>> feature their own l10n package and do not rely on the global kde-l10n-fr
> >>> package. So it looks like the latter one is really the issue.
> >>> 
> >>> Could you give me an update about it ASAP so that I could test more
> >>> please ?
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks a lot
> >>> 
> >>> 2017-04-21 23:25 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
>  Hi,
>  
>  Just checked with a new virgin session to ensure it was not wrong
>  settings and my side and sadly it is not. The French translations in
>  KDE
>  have something wrong, definitely (as Polish translations for example
>  are
>  complete except for the few fields in Kmail editor settings) while the
>  French ones are far from complete.
>  
>  Rgds
>  
>  2017-04-20 18:37 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
> > After checking again on polish translations everything is there :
> > ok/cancel properly translated, kmail antivirus/antispam wizard, ...
> > The
> > only missing translations is in Kmail settings / editor configuration.
> > 
> > So the issue has definitely nothing to see with code but with faultly
> > french lang package.
> > 
> > Rgds
> > 
> > 2017-04-20 10:35 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
> >> Hi
> >> 
> >> Okay check in Kmail settings / editor configuration. Kmail antivirus
> >> / antispam wizard left untranslated.
> >> In system settings the confirm dialog does contain untranslated
> >> buttons but situation has improved.
> >> Window configure shortcuts in Dolphin / Konsole is partly left
> >> untranslated (click manage schemes).
> >> Kate menu file > save as with encoding
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Polish locales ok / apply / cancel is translated. Now in French
> >> translation is correct when you right click on the clock and reach
> >> clock
> >> settings. Basically in French 95% of the bottom dialog buttons are
> >> untranslated (ex : konsole settings) while polish is not affected.
> >> Kopete is also fully translated.
> >> 
> >> Kdevelop browse menu : jump to next / previous
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Note : if the issue was just ok / apply / cancel I would not have set
> >> such high severity.
> >> 
> >> My locale : fr_FR.UTF-8
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Le 20 avr. 2017 10:12, "Maximiliano Curia"  a
> >> écrit :
> >> 
> >> ¡Hola Julien!
> >> 
> >> El 2017-04-20 a las 09:53 +0200, Julien Aubin escribió:
> >>> There are also many missing translations in Kmail, System settings
> >>> and so on.
> >> 
> >> "Many" is unspecific, we can't check for "many" missing translations,
> >> if you are refering to the Ok/Apply/Cancel buttons I would guess it's
> >> the
> >> same issue described in the previous mail.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Oddly enough I could test on a Polish computer and here (polish)
> >> 
> >>> translations are correct notably in systemsettings.
> >> 
> >> Can you point to a specific text? Are you claiming that the
> >> 

Bug#860515: Many translations missing in french KDE lang packages while we're close to release

[Julien Aubin]

Basically plasmoid settings panels are not affected.

Please let me know if I can do anything to help you investigating (or if
you have some custom-built kde-l10n package to test).

Rgds

2017-04-23 9:55 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :

> Hi,
>
> Some apps which rely on kde-l10n-fr are not affected as well, as when you
> right-click on K menu, then app launcher settings. So there must be
> something wrong in the translation files of the other apps. (Reminder : for
> Kmail and Systemsettings, polish language does not face such an issue, so
> it is directly related to French translations.)
>
> Do you have any update on your side for this issue ?
>
> Thanks
>
> 2017-04-22 8:01 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Sorry for the spam but after hacking again I found out that many of the
>> conflicting translations are located in 
>> /usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/kcmkeys.mo
>> (at least for the customize shortcut keys window). Kopete references them
>> well while it is not the case for apps which use the standard kde-l10n-fr
>> package.
>>
>> Looks like there's something faultly in the way the standard kde-l10n-fr
>> package is built as packages that do not use it directly are not affected.
>>
>>
>> 2017-04-22 7:05 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> After digging some more Calligra is not affected as well.
>>>
>>> Basically I just found out that unaffected apps (Kopete, Calligra)
>>> feature their own l10n package and do not rely on the global kde-l10n-fr
>>> package. So it looks like the latter one is really the issue.
>>>
>>> Could you give me an update about it ASAP so that I could test more
>>> please ?
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot
>>>
>>> 2017-04-21 23:25 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
>>>
 Hi,

 Just checked with a new virgin session to ensure it was not wrong
 settings and my side and sadly it is not. The French translations in KDE
 have something wrong, definitely (as Polish translations for example are
 complete except for the few fields in Kmail editor settings) while the
 French ones are far from complete.

 Rgds

 2017-04-20 18:37 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :

> After checking again on polish translations everything is there :
> ok/cancel properly translated, kmail antivirus/antispam wizard, ... The
> only missing translations is in Kmail settings / editor configuration.
>
> So the issue has definitely nothing to see with code but with faultly
> french lang package.
>
> Rgds
>
> 2017-04-20 10:35 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Okay check in Kmail settings / editor configuration. Kmail antivirus
>> / antispam wizard left untranslated.
>> In system settings the confirm dialog does contain untranslated
>> buttons but situation has improved.
>> Window configure shortcuts in Dolphin / Konsole is partly left
>> untranslated (click manage schemes).
>> Kate menu file > save as with encoding
>>
>>
>> On Polish locales ok / apply / cancel is translated. Now in French
>> translation is correct when you right click on the clock and reach clock
>> settings. Basically in French 95% of the bottom dialog buttons are
>> untranslated (ex : konsole settings) while polish is not affected.
>> Kopete is also fully translated.
>>
>> Kdevelop browse menu : jump to next / previous
>>
>>
>> Note : if the issue was just ok / apply / cancel I would not have set
>> such high severity.
>>
>> My locale : fr_FR.UTF-8
>>
>>
>> Le 20 avr. 2017 10:12, "Maximiliano Curia"  a
>> écrit :
>>
>> ¡Hola Julien!
>>
>>
>> El 2017-04-20 a las 09:53 +0200, Julien Aubin escribió:
>>
>>> There are also many missing translations in Kmail, System settings
>>> and so on.
>>>
>>
>> "Many" is unspecific, we can't check for "many" missing translations,
>> if you are refering to the Ok/Apply/Cancel buttons I would guess it's the
>> same issue described in the previous mail.
>>
>>
>> Oddly enough I could test on a Polish computer and here (polish)
>>> translations are correct notably in systemsettings.
>>>
>>
>> Can you point to a specific text? Are you claiming that the
>> Ok/Apply/Cancel buttons are translated using a polish locales?
>>
>>
>> I know severity is overrated (and I opened it previously which is bad
>>> but as nothing happened...) but such a bug has to be fixed before 
>>> release.
>>> As well Gentoo has never been affected with such issue.
>>>
>>
>> Please don't abuse the bug tracking system. And, please provide
>> information in a way that the issue is easily reproducible and easy to
>> check for someone that doesn't have your background (doesn't speak 

Bug#860515: Many translations missing in french KDE lang packages while we're close to release

[Julien Aubin]

Hi,

Some apps which rely on kde-l10n-fr are not affected as well, as when you
right-click on K menu, then app launcher settings. So there must be
something wrong in the translation files of the other apps. (Reminder : for
Kmail and Systemsettings, polish language does not face such an issue, so
it is directly related to French translations.)

Do you have any update on your side for this issue ?

Thanks

2017-04-22 8:01 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :

> Hi,
>
> Sorry for the spam but after hacking again I found out that many of the
> conflicting translations are located in 
> /usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/kcmkeys.mo
> (at least for the customize shortcut keys window). Kopete references them
> well while it is not the case for apps which use the standard kde-l10n-fr
> package.
>
> Looks like there's something faultly in the way the standard kde-l10n-fr
> package is built as packages that do not use it directly are not affected.
>
>
> 2017-04-22 7:05 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> After digging some more Calligra is not affected as well.
>>
>> Basically I just found out that unaffected apps (Kopete, Calligra)
>> feature their own l10n package and do not rely on the global kde-l10n-fr
>> package. So it looks like the latter one is really the issue.
>>
>> Could you give me an update about it ASAP so that I could test more
>> please ?
>>
>> Thanks a lot
>>
>> 2017-04-21 23:25 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Just checked with a new virgin session to ensure it was not wrong
>>> settings and my side and sadly it is not. The French translations in KDE
>>> have something wrong, definitely (as Polish translations for example are
>>> complete except for the few fields in Kmail editor settings) while the
>>> French ones are far from complete.
>>>
>>> Rgds
>>>
>>> 2017-04-20 18:37 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
>>>
 After checking again on polish translations everything is there :
 ok/cancel properly translated, kmail antivirus/antispam wizard, ... The
 only missing translations is in Kmail settings / editor configuration.

 So the issue has definitely nothing to see with code but with faultly
 french lang package.

 Rgds

 2017-04-20 10:35 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :

> Hi
>
> Okay check in Kmail settings / editor configuration. Kmail antivirus /
> antispam wizard left untranslated.
> In system settings the confirm dialog does contain untranslated
> buttons but situation has improved.
> Window configure shortcuts in Dolphin / Konsole is partly left
> untranslated (click manage schemes).
> Kate menu file > save as with encoding
>
>
> On Polish locales ok / apply / cancel is translated. Now in French
> translation is correct when you right click on the clock and reach clock
> settings. Basically in French 95% of the bottom dialog buttons are
> untranslated (ex : konsole settings) while polish is not affected.
> Kopete is also fully translated.
>
> Kdevelop browse menu : jump to next / previous
>
>
> Note : if the issue was just ok / apply / cancel I would not have set
> such high severity.
>
> My locale : fr_FR.UTF-8
>
>
> Le 20 avr. 2017 10:12, "Maximiliano Curia"  a écrit :
>
> ¡Hola Julien!
>
>
> El 2017-04-20 a las 09:53 +0200, Julien Aubin escribió:
>
>> There are also many missing translations in Kmail, System settings
>> and so on.
>>
>
> "Many" is unspecific, we can't check for "many" missing translations,
> if you are refering to the Ok/Apply/Cancel buttons I would guess it's the
> same issue described in the previous mail.
>
>
> Oddly enough I could test on a Polish computer and here (polish)
>> translations are correct notably in systemsettings.
>>
>
> Can you point to a specific text? Are you claiming that the
> Ok/Apply/Cancel buttons are translated using a polish locales?
>
>
> I know severity is overrated (and I opened it previously which is bad
>> but as nothing happened...) but such a bug has to be fixed before 
>> release.
>> As well Gentoo has never been affected with such issue.
>>
>
> Please don't abuse the bug tracking system. And, please provide
> information in a way that the issue is easily reproducible and easy to
> check for someone that doesn't have your background (doesn't speak french,
> or polish, doesn't know what to look for in the window, etc).
>
> Happy hacking,
> --
> "recursividad 95, 154, 156, 201, 224, 293"
> -- El Lenguaje de Programacion C, pag. 293 (Kernighan & Ritchie)
>
> Saludos /\/\ /\ >< `/
>
>
>

>>>
>>
>

Bug#860515: Many translations missing in french KDE lang packages while we're close to release

[Julien Aubin]

Hi,

Sorry for the spam but after hacking again I found out that many of the
conflicting translations are located in
/usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/kcmkeys.mo
(at least for the customize shortcut keys window). Kopete references them
well while it is not the case for apps which use the standard kde-l10n-fr
package.

Looks like there's something faultly in the way the standard kde-l10n-fr
package is built as packages that do not use it directly are not affected.


2017-04-22 7:05 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :

> Hi,
>
> After digging some more Calligra is not affected as well.
>
> Basically I just found out that unaffected apps (Kopete, Calligra) feature
> their own l10n package and do not rely on the global kde-l10n-fr package.
> So it looks like the latter one is really the issue.
>
> Could you give me an update about it ASAP so that I could test more please
> ?
>
> Thanks a lot
>
> 2017-04-21 23:25 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Just checked with a new virgin session to ensure it was not wrong
>> settings and my side and sadly it is not. The French translations in KDE
>> have something wrong, definitely (as Polish translations for example are
>> complete except for the few fields in Kmail editor settings) while the
>> French ones are far from complete.
>>
>> Rgds
>>
>> 2017-04-20 18:37 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
>>
>>> After checking again on polish translations everything is there :
>>> ok/cancel properly translated, kmail antivirus/antispam wizard, ... The
>>> only missing translations is in Kmail settings / editor configuration.
>>>
>>> So the issue has definitely nothing to see with code but with faultly
>>> french lang package.
>>>
>>> Rgds
>>>
>>> 2017-04-20 10:35 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
>>>
 Hi

 Okay check in Kmail settings / editor configuration. Kmail antivirus /
 antispam wizard left untranslated.
 In system settings the confirm dialog does contain untranslated buttons
 but situation has improved.
 Window configure shortcuts in Dolphin / Konsole is partly left
 untranslated (click manage schemes).
 Kate menu file > save as with encoding


 On Polish locales ok / apply / cancel is translated. Now in French
 translation is correct when you right click on the clock and reach clock
 settings. Basically in French 95% of the bottom dialog buttons are
 untranslated (ex : konsole settings) while polish is not affected.
 Kopete is also fully translated.

 Kdevelop browse menu : jump to next / previous


 Note : if the issue was just ok / apply / cancel I would not have set
 such high severity.

 My locale : fr_FR.UTF-8


 Le 20 avr. 2017 10:12, "Maximiliano Curia"  a écrit :

 ¡Hola Julien!


 El 2017-04-20 a las 09:53 +0200, Julien Aubin escribió:

> There are also many missing translations in Kmail, System settings and
> so on.
>

 "Many" is unspecific, we can't check for "many" missing translations,
 if you are refering to the Ok/Apply/Cancel buttons I would guess it's the
 same issue described in the previous mail.


 Oddly enough I could test on a Polish computer and here (polish)
> translations are correct notably in systemsettings.
>

 Can you point to a specific text? Are you claiming that the
 Ok/Apply/Cancel buttons are translated using a polish locales?


 I know severity is overrated (and I opened it previously which is bad
> but as nothing happened...) but such a bug has to be fixed before release.
> As well Gentoo has never been affected with such issue.
>

 Please don't abuse the bug tracking system. And, please provide
 information in a way that the issue is easily reproducible and easy to
 check for someone that doesn't have your background (doesn't speak french,
 or polish, doesn't know what to look for in the window, etc).

 Happy hacking,
 --
 "recursividad 95, 154, 156, 201, 224, 293"
 -- El Lenguaje de Programacion C, pag. 293 (Kernighan & Ritchie)

 Saludos /\/\ /\ >< `/



>>>
>>
>

Bug#860515: Many translations missing in french KDE lang packages while we're close to release

[Julien Aubin]

Hi,

After digging some more Calligra is not affected as well.

Basically I just found out that unaffected apps (Kopete, Calligra) feature
their own l10n package and do not rely on the global kde-l10n-fr package.
So it looks like the latter one is really the issue.

Could you give me an update about it ASAP so that I could test more please ?

Thanks a lot

2017-04-21 23:25 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :

> Hi,
>
> Just checked with a new virgin session to ensure it was not wrong settings
> and my side and sadly it is not. The French translations in KDE have
> something wrong, definitely (as Polish translations for example are
> complete except for the few fields in Kmail editor settings) while the
> French ones are far from complete.
>
> Rgds
>
> 2017-04-20 18:37 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
>
>> After checking again on polish translations everything is there :
>> ok/cancel properly translated, kmail antivirus/antispam wizard, ... The
>> only missing translations is in Kmail settings / editor configuration.
>>
>> So the issue has definitely nothing to see with code but with faultly
>> french lang package.
>>
>> Rgds
>>
>> 2017-04-20 10:35 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Okay check in Kmail settings / editor configuration. Kmail antivirus /
>>> antispam wizard left untranslated.
>>> In system settings the confirm dialog does contain untranslated buttons
>>> but situation has improved.
>>> Window configure shortcuts in Dolphin / Konsole is partly left
>>> untranslated (click manage schemes).
>>> Kate menu file > save as with encoding
>>>
>>>
>>> On Polish locales ok / apply / cancel is translated. Now in French
>>> translation is correct when you right click on the clock and reach clock
>>> settings. Basically in French 95% of the bottom dialog buttons are
>>> untranslated (ex : konsole settings) while polish is not affected.
>>> Kopete is also fully translated.
>>>
>>> Kdevelop browse menu : jump to next / previous
>>>
>>>
>>> Note : if the issue was just ok / apply / cancel I would not have set
>>> such high severity.
>>>
>>> My locale : fr_FR.UTF-8
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 20 avr. 2017 10:12, "Maximiliano Curia"  a écrit :
>>>
>>> ¡Hola Julien!
>>>
>>>
>>> El 2017-04-20 a las 09:53 +0200, Julien Aubin escribió:
>>>
 There are also many missing translations in Kmail, System settings and
 so on.

>>>
>>> "Many" is unspecific, we can't check for "many" missing translations, if
>>> you are refering to the Ok/Apply/Cancel buttons I would guess it's the same
>>> issue described in the previous mail.
>>>
>>>
>>> Oddly enough I could test on a Polish computer and here (polish)
 translations are correct notably in systemsettings.

>>>
>>> Can you point to a specific text? Are you claiming that the
>>> Ok/Apply/Cancel buttons are translated using a polish locales?
>>>
>>>
>>> I know severity is overrated (and I opened it previously which is bad
 but as nothing happened...) but such a bug has to be fixed before release.
 As well Gentoo has never been affected with such issue.

>>>
>>> Please don't abuse the bug tracking system. And, please provide
>>> information in a way that the issue is easily reproducible and easy to
>>> check for someone that doesn't have your background (doesn't speak french,
>>> or polish, doesn't know what to look for in the window, etc).
>>>
>>> Happy hacking,
>>> --
>>> "recursividad 95, 154, 156, 201, 224, 293"
>>> -- El Lenguaje de Programacion C, pag. 293 (Kernighan & Ritchie)
>>>
>>> Saludos /\/\ /\ >< `/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Bug#860515: Many translations missing in french KDE lang packages while we're close to release

[Julien Aubin]

Hi,

Just checked with a new virgin session to ensure it was not wrong settings
and my side and sadly it is not. The French translations in KDE have
something wrong, definitely (as Polish translations for example are
complete except for the few fields in Kmail editor settings) while the
French ones are far from complete.

Rgds

2017-04-20 18:37 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :

> After checking again on polish translations everything is there :
> ok/cancel properly translated, kmail antivirus/antispam wizard, ... The
> only missing translations is in Kmail settings / editor configuration.
>
> So the issue has definitely nothing to see with code but with faultly
> french lang package.
>
> Rgds
>
> 2017-04-20 10:35 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Okay check in Kmail settings / editor configuration. Kmail antivirus /
>> antispam wizard left untranslated.
>> In system settings the confirm dialog does contain untranslated buttons
>> but situation has improved.
>> Window configure shortcuts in Dolphin / Konsole is partly left
>> untranslated (click manage schemes).
>> Kate menu file > save as with encoding
>>
>>
>> On Polish locales ok / apply / cancel is translated. Now in French
>> translation is correct when you right click on the clock and reach clock
>> settings. Basically in French 95% of the bottom dialog buttons are
>> untranslated (ex : konsole settings) while polish is not affected.
>> Kopete is also fully translated.
>>
>> Kdevelop browse menu : jump to next / previous
>>
>>
>> Note : if the issue was just ok / apply / cancel I would not have set
>> such high severity.
>>
>> My locale : fr_FR.UTF-8
>>
>>
>> Le 20 avr. 2017 10:12, "Maximiliano Curia"  a écrit :
>>
>> ¡Hola Julien!
>>
>>
>> El 2017-04-20 a las 09:53 +0200, Julien Aubin escribió:
>>
>>> There are also many missing translations in Kmail, System settings and
>>> so on.
>>>
>>
>> "Many" is unspecific, we can't check for "many" missing translations, if
>> you are refering to the Ok/Apply/Cancel buttons I would guess it's the same
>> issue described in the previous mail.
>>
>>
>> Oddly enough I could test on a Polish computer and here (polish)
>>> translations are correct notably in systemsettings.
>>>
>>
>> Can you point to a specific text? Are you claiming that the
>> Ok/Apply/Cancel buttons are translated using a polish locales?
>>
>>
>> I know severity is overrated (and I opened it previously which is bad but
>>> as nothing happened...) but such a bug has to be fixed before release. As
>>> well Gentoo has never been affected with such issue.
>>>
>>
>> Please don't abuse the bug tracking system. And, please provide
>> information in a way that the issue is easily reproducible and easy to
>> check for someone that doesn't have your background (doesn't speak french,
>> or polish, doesn't know what to look for in the window, etc).
>>
>> Happy hacking,
>> --
>> "recursividad 95, 154, 156, 201, 224, 293"
>> -- El Lenguaje de Programacion C, pag. 293 (Kernighan & Ritchie)
>>
>> Saludos /\/\ /\ >< `/
>>
>>
>>
>

Bug#860515: Many translations missing in french KDE lang packages while we're close to release

[Julien Aubin]

After checking again on polish translations everything is there : ok/cancel
properly translated, kmail antivirus/antispam wizard, ... The only missing
translations is in Kmail settings / editor configuration.

So the issue has definitely nothing to see with code but with faultly
french lang package.

Rgds

2017-04-20 10:35 GMT+02:00 Julien Aubin :

> Hi
>
> Okay check in Kmail settings / editor configuration. Kmail antivirus /
> antispam wizard left untranslated.
> In system settings the confirm dialog does contain untranslated buttons
> but situation has improved.
> Window configure shortcuts in Dolphin / Konsole is partly left
> untranslated (click manage schemes).
> Kate menu file > save as with encoding
>
>
> On Polish locales ok / apply / cancel is translated. Now in French
> translation is correct when you right click on the clock and reach clock
> settings. Basically in French 95% of the bottom dialog buttons are
> untranslated (ex : konsole settings) while polish is not affected.
> Kopete is also fully translated.
>
> Kdevelop browse menu : jump to next / previous
>
>
> Note : if the issue was just ok / apply / cancel I would not have set such
> high severity.
>
> My locale : fr_FR.UTF-8
>
>
> Le 20 avr. 2017 10:12, "Maximiliano Curia"  a écrit :
>
> ¡Hola Julien!
>
>
> El 2017-04-20 a las 09:53 +0200, Julien Aubin escribió:
>
>> There are also many missing translations in Kmail, System settings and so
>> on.
>>
>
> "Many" is unspecific, we can't check for "many" missing translations, if
> you are refering to the Ok/Apply/Cancel buttons I would guess it's the same
> issue described in the previous mail.
>
>
> Oddly enough I could test on a Polish computer and here (polish)
>> translations are correct notably in systemsettings.
>>
>
> Can you point to a specific text? Are you claiming that the
> Ok/Apply/Cancel buttons are translated using a polish locales?
>
>
> I know severity is overrated (and I opened it previously which is bad but
>> as nothing happened...) but such a bug has to be fixed before release. As
>> well Gentoo has never been affected with such issue.
>>
>
> Please don't abuse the bug tracking system. And, please provide
> information in a way that the issue is easily reproducible and easy to
> check for someone that doesn't have your background (doesn't speak french,
> or polish, doesn't know what to look for in the window, etc).
>
> Happy hacking,
> --
> "recursividad 95, 154, 156, 201, 224, 293"
> -- El Lenguaje de Programacion C, pag. 293 (Kernighan & Ritchie)
>
> Saludos /\/\ /\ >< `/
>
>
>

Bug#860515: Many translations missing in french KDE lang packages while we're close to release

[Julien Aubin]

Hi

Okay check in Kmail settings / editor configuration. Kmail antivirus /
antispam wizard left untranslated.
In system settings the confirm dialog does contain untranslated buttons but
situation has improved.
Window configure shortcuts in Dolphin / Konsole is partly left untranslated
(click manage schemes).
Kate menu file > save as with encoding


On Polish locales ok / apply / cancel is translated. Now in French
translation is correct when you right click on the clock and reach clock
settings. Basically in French 95% of the bottom dialog buttons are
untranslated (ex : konsole settings) while polish is not affected.
Kopete is also fully translated.

Kdevelop browse menu : jump to next / previous


Note : if the issue was just ok / apply / cancel I would not have set such
high severity.

My locale : fr_FR.UTF-8


Le 20 avr. 2017 10:12, "Maximiliano Curia"  a écrit :

¡Hola Julien!


El 2017-04-20 a las 09:53 +0200, Julien Aubin escribió:

> There are also many missing translations in Kmail, System settings and so
> on.
>

"Many" is unspecific, we can't check for "many" missing translations, if
you are refering to the Ok/Apply/Cancel buttons I would guess it's the same
issue described in the previous mail.


Oddly enough I could test on a Polish computer and here (polish)
> translations are correct notably in systemsettings.
>

Can you point to a specific text? Are you claiming that the Ok/Apply/Cancel
buttons are translated using a polish locales?


I know severity is overrated (and I opened it previously which is bad but
> as nothing happened...) but such a bug has to be fixed before release. As
> well Gentoo has never been affected with such issue.
>

Please don't abuse the bug tracking system. And, please provide information
in a way that the issue is easily reproducible and easy to check for
someone that doesn't have your background (doesn't speak french, or polish,
doesn't know what to look for in the window, etc).

Happy hacking,
-- 
"recursividad 95, 154, 156, 201, 224, 293"
-- El Lenguaje de Programacion C, pag. 293 (Kernighan & Ritchie)

Saludos /\/\ /\ >< `/

Bug#860515: Many translations missing in french KDE lang packages while we're close to release

[Maximiliano Curia]

¡Hola Julien!

El 2017-04-20 a las 09:53 +0200, Julien Aubin escribió:

There are also many missing translations in Kmail, System settings and so on.


"Many" is unspecific, we can't check for "many" missing translations, if you 
are refering to the Ok/Apply/Cancel buttons I would guess it's the same 
issue described in the previous mail.


Oddly enough I could test on a Polish computer and here (polish) translations 
are correct notably in systemsettings.


Can you point to a specific text? Are you claiming that the Ok/Apply/Cancel 
buttons are translated using a polish locales?


I know severity is overrated (and I opened it previously which is bad but as 
nothing happened...) but such a bug has to be fixed before release. As well 
Gentoo has never been affected with such issue.


Please don't abuse the bug tracking system. And, please provide information in 
a way that the issue is easily reproducible and easy to check for someone that 
doesn't have your background (doesn't speak french, or polish, doesn't know 
what to look for in the window, etc).


Happy hacking,
--
"recursividad 95, 154, 156, 201, 224, 293"
-- El Lenguaje de Programacion C, pag. 293 (Kernighan & Ritchie)
Saludos /\/\ /\ >< `/


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Bug#860515: Many translations missing in french KDE lang packages while we're close to release

[Julien Aubin]

There are also many missing translations in Kmail, System settings and so
on.

Oddly enough I could test on a Polish computer and here (polish)
translations are correct notably in systemsettings.

I know severity is overrated (and I opened it previously which is bad but
as nothing happened...) but such a bug has to be fixed before release. As
well Gentoo has never been affected with such issue.

Le 20 avr. 2017 09:28, "Maximiliano Curia"  a écrit :

Control: severity -1 important
Control: forcemerge 857647 860515

¡Hola Julien!

El 2017-04-18 a las 06:59 +0200, Julien Aubin escribió:

> Package: kde-l10n-fr Version: 4:16.04.3-1 Severity: grave
>

I know that the severity is exagerated but this is because we're very close
> to release and the issue is still not fixed.
>

Please don't create duplicated bugs with unjustified severities, this only
reduces the value of the bugs being reported (and increases the time we
need to expend dealing with them instead of fixing them)

There are still many missing translations in French KDE translation
> package, such as many "Apply" buttons left untranslated, some "do you want
> to continue" questions untranslated and so on. The issue is due to some
> translations in Debian being too old, as the same package, kde-l10n-fr
> 16.04 in Gentoo is not affected.
>

It seems to me that the missing translations are from qt5's QDialog stock
buttons. So this might need to be addressed in the qt packages.

This is, at least for the dolphin settings dialog (which creates a
QDialogButtonBox with:
QDialogButtonBox* box = new QDialogButtonBox(QDialogButtonBox::Ok
 | QDialogButtonBox::Apply | QDialogButtonBox::Cancel |
QDialogButtonBox::RestoreDefaults);

And it doesn't override the buttons texts.

Happy hacking,
-- 
"Seek simplicity, and distrust it." -- Whitehead's Rule
Saludos /\/\ /\ >< `/

Bug#860515: Many translations missing in french KDE lang packages while we're close to release

[Maximiliano Curia]

Control: severity -1 important
Control: forcemerge 857647 860515

¡Hola Julien!

El 2017-04-18 a las 06:59 +0200, Julien Aubin escribió:
Package: kde-l10n-fr 
Version: 4:16.04.3-1 
Severity: grave


I know that the severity is exagerated but this is because we're very close to 
release and the issue is still not fixed.


Please don't create duplicated bugs with unjustified severities, this only 
reduces the value of the bugs being reported (and increases the time we need 
to expend dealing with them instead of fixing them)


There are still many missing translations in French KDE translation package, 
such as many "Apply" buttons left untranslated, some "do you want to continue" 
questions untranslated and so on. The issue is due to some translations in 
Debian being too old, as the same package, kde-l10n-fr 16.04 in Gentoo is not 
affected.


It seems to me that the missing translations are from qt5's QDialog stock 
buttons. So this might need to be addressed in the qt packages.


This is, at least for the dolphin settings dialog (which creates a 
QDialogButtonBox with:

QDialogButtonBox* box = new QDialogButtonBox(QDialogButtonBox::Ok
 | QDialogButtonBox::Apply | QDialogButtonBox::Cancel | 
QDialogButtonBox::RestoreDefaults);

And it doesn't override the buttons texts.

Happy hacking,
--
"Seek simplicity, and distrust it." -- Whitehead's Rule
Saludos /\/\ /\ >< `/


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Bug#860515: Many translations missing in french KDE lang packages while we're close to release

[Julien Aubin]

Package: kde-l10n-fr
Version: 4:16.04.3-1
Severity: grave

Hi,

I know that the severity is exagerated but this is because we're very close
to
release and the issue is still not fixed.

There are still many missing translations in French KDE translation package,
such as many "Apply" buttons left untranslated, some "do you want to
continue"
questions untranslated and so on. The issue is due to some translations in
Debian being too old, as the same package, kde-l10n-fr 16.04 in Gentoo is
not
affected.

So could you please upload newer translations for KDE before release ? It's
a
matter of how the UX looks in front of the user.

Thanks



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