Re: Bittorrent distribution of cdimages

2003-10-16 Thread Mattias Wadenstein
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Patrick Strasser wrote: Mattias Wadenstein wrote: [about offering Debian CD-images via BitTorrent] I suspect I'm not the only one that thinks that this might be a good idea. I'm actually planning on offering this, what I'd like feedback on is how official it should

Re: Bittorrent distribution of cdimages

2003-10-16 Thread Mattias Wadenstein
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Patrick Strasser wrote: Mattias Wadenstein wrote: [about offering Debian CD-images via BitTorrent] I suspect I'm not the only one that thinks that this might be a good idea. I'm actually planning on offering this, what I'd like feedback on is how official it should

Re: Bittorrent distribution of cdimages

2003-10-13 Thread Erik Tews
On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 11:10:51AM +0200, Mattias Wadenstein wrote: It would be good if debian had an official tracker (doesn't need to have the image but it would be good). That would be easy, I could run one on cdimage.d.o at all times except release time when it would be repointed to

Re: Bittorrent distribution of cdimages

2003-10-12 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Patrick Strasser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mattias Wadenstein wrote: [about offering Debian CD-images via BitTorrent] I suspect I'm not the only one that thinks that this might be a good idea. I'm actually planning on offering this, what I'd like feedback on is how official it should

Re: Bittorrent distribution of cdimages

2003-10-12 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 02:05:58PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Jigdo produces a good initial template image that often needs further repairs by rsync. ??? What makes you say this? I've never had to repair images after jigdo has run successfully... -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.

Re: Bittorrent distribution of cdimages

2003-10-12 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Steve McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 02:05:58PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Jigdo produces a good initial template image that often needs further repairs by rsync. ??? What makes you say this? I've never had to repair images after jigdo has run

Re: Bittorrent distribution of cdimages

2003-10-12 Thread Christian Leber
On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 03:10:29PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Or a bittoggler that goes undetected by the TCP checksums. It's very unlikely because the jigdo files have md5 checksum's for every file and i think they are used. Christian Leber -- Omnis enim res, quae dando non

Re: Bittorrent distribution of cdimages

2003-10-12 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Christian Leber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 03:10:29PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Or a bittoggler that goes undetected by the TCP checksums. It's very unlikely because the jigdo files have md5 checksum's for every file and i think they are used. And if they

Re: Bittorrent distribution of cdimages

2003-10-12 Thread Christian Leber
On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 04:22:49PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: And if they detect an error? I would rerun jigdo, i think it would download the file again. If this would fail I would report this to the mirror maintainer and use another mirror. What if your local mirror has a broken deb

Re: Bittorrent distribution of cdimages

2003-10-12 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Patrick Strasser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mattias Wadenstein wrote: [about offering Debian CD-images via BitTorrent] I suspect I'm not the only one that thinks that this might be a good idea. I'm actually planning on offering this, what I'd like feedback on is how official it should

Re: Bittorrent distribution of cdimages

2003-10-12 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 02:05:58PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Jigdo produces a good initial template image that often needs further repairs by rsync. ??? What makes you say this? I've never had to repair images after jigdo has run successfully... -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.

Re: Bittorrent distribution of cdimages

2003-10-12 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Steve McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 02:05:58PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Jigdo produces a good initial template image that often needs further repairs by rsync. ??? What makes you say this? I've never had to repair images after jigdo has run

Re: Bittorrent distribution of cdimages

2003-10-12 Thread Christian Leber
On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 03:10:29PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Or a bittoggler that goes undetected by the TCP checksums. It's very unlikely because the jigdo files have md5 checksum's for every file and i think they are used. Christian Leber -- Omnis enim res, quae dando non

Re: Bittorrent distribution of cdimages

2003-10-12 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Christian Leber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 03:10:29PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Or a bittoggler that goes undetected by the TCP checksums. It's very unlikely because the jigdo files have md5 checksum's for every file and i think they are used. And if they

Re: Bittorrent distribution of cdimages

2003-10-12 Thread Christian Leber
On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 04:22:49PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: And if they detect an error? I would rerun jigdo, i think it would download the file again. If this would fail I would report this to the mirror maintainer and use another mirror. What if your local mirror has a broken deb

Re: Bittorrent distribution of cdimages

2003-10-12 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Christian Leber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 04:22:49PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: And if they detect an error? I would rerun jigdo, i think it would download the file again. If this would fail I would report this to the mirror maintainer and use another

Re: Bittorrent distribution of cdimages

2003-10-09 Thread Patrick Strasser
Mattias Wadenstein wrote: [about offering Debian CD-images via BitTorrent] I suspect I'm not the only one that thinks that this might be a good idea. I'm actually planning on offering this, what I'd like feedback on is how official it should be. I know that people like BitTorrent, and it that it

Re: Bittorrent distribution of cdimages

2003-10-09 Thread Patrick Strasser
Mattias Wadenstein wrote: [about offering Debian CD-images via BitTorrent] I suspect I'm not the only one that thinks that this might be a good idea. I'm actually planning on offering this, what I'd like feedback on is how official it should be. I know that people like BitTorrent, and it that it

Re: Bittorrent distribution of cdimages

2003-10-06 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Monday 06 October 2003 11:10, Mattias Wadenstein wrote: release time when it would be repointed to another host. How about the hostname debcd-tracker.acc.umu.se? I feel that I need a zone where I can as local admin change the RR quickly and with a low ttl, so I guess the debian.org zone

Re: Bittorrent distribution of cdimages

2003-10-06 Thread Mattias Wadenstein
On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Mattias Wadenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I suspect I'm not the only one that thinks that this might be a good idea. I'm actually planning on offering this, what I'd like feedback on is how official it should be. mldonkey urls should

Re: Bittorrent distribution of cdimages

2003-10-06 Thread Mattias Wadenstein
On Mon, 6 Oct 2003, jason andrade wrote: On Sun, 6 Oct 2002, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: With bittorrent you have to have a running tracker. You also need clients connected to the tracker that feed the data. That means each mirror would have to run a bittorrent client on their local

Re: Bittorrent distribution of cdimages

2003-10-06 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Monday 06 October 2003 11:10, Mattias Wadenstein wrote: release time when it would be repointed to another host. How about the hostname debcd-tracker.acc.umu.se? I feel that I need a zone where I can as local admin change the RR quickly and with a low ttl, so I guess the debian.org zone

Bittorrent distribution of cdimages

2003-10-05 Thread Mattias Wadenstein
I suspect I'm not the only one that thinks that this might be a good idea. I'm actually planning on offering this, what I'd like feedback on is how official it should be. Should I (or whoever is doing them) place the .torrents in the debian-cd directory on cdimage.debian.org so that they are

Re: Bittorrent distribution of cdimages

2003-10-05 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Mattias Wadenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I suspect I'm not the only one that thinks that this might be a good idea. I'm actually planning on offering this, what I'd like feedback on is how official it should be. mldonkey urls should also be provided. Thats even easier than bittorrent

Re: Bittorrent distribution of cdimages

2003-10-05 Thread jason andrade
On Mon, 5 Oct 2003, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: It would be good if debian had an official tracker (doesn't need to have the image but it would be good). [...] I'm all for it. Bittorrent is still one of the best. i've heard a fair amount of discussion about BT but still haven't figured out

Re: Bittorrent distribution of cdimages

2003-10-05 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
jason andrade [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 5 Oct 2003, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: It would be good if debian had an official tracker (doesn't need to have the image but it would be good). [...] I'm all for it. Bittorrent is still one of the best. i've heard a fair amount of

Re: Bittorrent distribution of cdimages

2003-10-05 Thread jason andrade
On Sun, 6 Oct 2002, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: With bittorrent you have to have a running tracker. You also need clients connected to the tracker that feed the data. That means each mirror would have to run a bittorrent client on their local image. does every mirror run a tracker ? or does

Bittorrent distribution of cdimages

2003-10-05 Thread Mattias Wadenstein
I suspect I'm not the only one that thinks that this might be a good idea. I'm actually planning on offering this, what I'd like feedback on is how official it should be. Should I (or whoever is doing them) place the .torrents in the debian-cd directory on cdimage.debian.org so that they are

Re: Bittorrent distribution of cdimages

2003-10-05 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Mattias Wadenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I suspect I'm not the only one that thinks that this might be a good idea. I'm actually planning on offering this, what I'd like feedback on is how official it should be. mldonkey urls should also be provided. Thats even easier than bittorrent

Re: Bittorrent distribution of cdimages

2003-10-05 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
jason andrade [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 5 Oct 2003, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: It would be good if debian had an official tracker (doesn't need to have the image but it would be good). [...] I'm all for it. Bittorrent is still one of the best. i've heard a fair amount of

Re: Bittorrent distribution of cdimages

2003-10-05 Thread jason andrade
On Sun, 6 Oct 2002, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: With bittorrent you have to have a running tracker. You also need clients connected to the tracker that feed the data. That means each mirror would have to run a bittorrent client on their local image. does every mirror run a tracker ? or does