Re: Debian Images on Amazon Web Services (resent)

2012-11-08 Thread Thomas Goirand
competition and smaller companies, which might also use these images. It would be even more unfair to ship it only at these larger providers. Cheers, Thomas Goirand (zigo) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-cloud-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble

Re: Debian Images on Amazon Web Services (resent)

2012-11-08 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 11/08/2012 05:56 PM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > Correct. To expand a bit more on this, as I've mentioned in [1] I've > been approached by Amazon representatives interested in having official > Debian AMIs in their "AWS marketplace". This is different than the usual > "AMI soup" where you've to

Re: Debian Images on Amazon Web Services (resent)

2012-11-08 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 11/08/2012 09:41 PM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 09:27:07PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> On 11/08/2012 05:56 PM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: >>> My general take on this is that, if we have users interested in running >>> Debian on public clo

Re: Debian AMI Images *not only* for AWS (Was: Debian Images on Amazon Web Services)

2012-11-08 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 11/08/2012 06:27 AM, Anders Ingemann wrote: > Hi Thomas, > > I don't know about porting the AMIs to Openstack. However I do know > that the bootstrapping script is fairly quickly adjusted, all the AWS > commands are located in tasks for themselves. This means, that one can > easily replace them

Re: Debian Images on Amazon Web Services (resent)

2012-11-08 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 11/09/2012 05:14 AM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > Still, I wonder, how reusable would be the AMI outside AWS context? I > know that at still Eucalyptus uses the same format, but I'm not sure > about the other infrastructures. They are perfectly useable with Openstack. The online tutorials on ho

Re: Image Factory: appliance creation and deployment to multiple virtualization and Cloud providers

2012-11-15 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 11/15/2012 10:38 AM, Hideki Yamane wrote: > On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 23:29:24 +0900 > Hideki Yamane wrote: >> http://www.aeolusproject.org/imagefactory.html >> >> Have anyone already checked it? > No one would see it ;), so I've started to package it. Hi. COOL! I have listen to the FLOSS week

Re: AWS Debian Stable 6.0.6 Image: Testing please

2012-11-15 Thread Thomas Goirand
Hi, that's nice, but again, could you please put these AMI images elsewhere than on AWS "Marketplace"? I don't have an account there, I do not plan on ever having one, yet I do would like to use these AMI images! On 11/15/2012 07:10 PM, Bromberger, James wrote: > > These images were generated usi

Re: team infrastructure (wiki page, doc, bug tracking, etc.)

2012-11-19 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 11/20/2012 01:03 AM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > Disclaimer: I'm not doing any packaging work related to Debian "cloud" > stuff up to now, so I surely welcome living this choice to the people > who are doing that work. > > Still, I wonder which benefit do you see in scattering the packages > acr

Re: team infrastructure (wiki page, doc, bug tracking, etc.)

2012-11-20 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 11/20/2012 01:00 PM, Charles Plessy wrote: > For cloud-init, it is maintained in the python-apps, which means > "svn-buildpackage". I can move it to collab-maint is it will increase the > number of contributors. The use of SVN is a show stopper for me. I never learned it, and I don't feel it is

Re: Bug#694034: ITP: imagefactory -- System image generation tool for various Virtual Machine environment

2012-11-22 Thread Thomas Goirand
ion of system images for multiple virtualization > and cloud providers from a single template definition. > . > It's a part of Aeolus Project. > Hey, thanks a lot for packaging this! :) Please let the list know when it's ready. Thomas Goirand (zigo) -- To UNSUBSC

Re: Bug#694923: better / alternative image distribution

2012-12-02 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 12/02/2012 07:29 PM, Marco d'Itri wrote: > Are the EC2 images also usable as is on other Amazon-like cloud > infrastructures? If they are not, then I do not see the point of using > our own resources for the benefit of a specific cloud provider. They are normally useable with Openstack, which

Re: using cloud-init: how???

2012-12-05 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 12/05/2012 05:19 PM, Julien Danjou wrote: > Thanks for being flexible and kudos for having started this! +1 for the thanks and kudos I'm sure I will sooner or later need to play with cloud-init as well... Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-cloud-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subjec

Re: training sessions

2012-12-06 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 12/05/2012 05:22 PM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > I suspect people (including myself) would > prefer to run them using free technologies [...] Please do try with free software! I'm about to upload all of our work into Debian Experimental, but in the mean while, you can either build Openstack you

Re: aeolus packages

2012-12-11 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 12/11/2012 02:37 PM, Hideki Yamane wrote: > On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:08:09 +0900 > Hideki Yamane wrote: > > Status update: > > [accepted] > pshpere > vmdk-stream-converter Hi! Does vmdk-stream-convert works only one way, or is it possible to use it to convert a ESXi image to let's say an EC2

Bug#696154: cloud.debian.org: Please install 'less' by default on official Debian AMIs.

2012-12-17 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 12/17/2012 08:04 PM, Anders Ingemann wrote: > Most certainly, I have a standard-packages plugin which is supposed to > install the packages one would expect to see in a base install. > This plugin also installs less. I think I should remove vim and emacs > from it though. > You can see the list

Bug#696154: cloud.debian.org: Please install 'less' by default on official Debian AMIs.

2012-12-17 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 12/17/2012 10:23 PM, Charles Plessy wrote: > To Thomas: less is installed on almost all Debian systems where > popularity-contest is installed, and is used in almost a half of these > systems. And? > So instances used interactively, this is definitely a command that is missing. I don't agree

Re: Bug#696154: cloud.debian.org: Please install 'less' by default on official Debian AMIs.

2012-12-17 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 12/18/2012 12:31 AM, Brian Gupta wrote: > So in summary, I'd say that while it would be easier to make the > threshold for whether a package is installed simply, "Is it absolutely > required to finish bootstrapping", I'd argue we should take the extra > work to be more inclusive and evaluate if

Bug#697490: cloud: 697490: use sudoers.d

2013-01-06 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 01/06/2013 04:53 PM, Charles Plessy wrote: > I wonder if it would make sense to preseed it ? IMO, it would. It's a sane default. > Did you test that with setting DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive first ? This is a totally different topic. Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-cloud-requ..

Bug#697490: cloud: 697490: use sudoers.d

2013-01-06 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 01/07/2013 12:00 AM, Ian Campbell wrote: > On Sun, 2013-01-06 at 17:53 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: >> The only other interruption is the following debconf question from >> libc6: >> >> Restart services during package upgrades without asking? >> >> I wonder if it would make sense to pres

Re: [RFR] Press release about Debian on public clouds

2013-03-12 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 03/13/2013 06:32 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 02:26:50PM +0100, Francesca Ciceri a écrit : >> >> As you may know, starting with the upcoming stable release Wheezy, >> Debian will http://www.debian.org/News/2012/20120425";>make >> it easier for its users to deploy private

Re: [RFR] Press release about Debian on public clouds

2013-03-13 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 03/13/2013 02:39 PM, Chris Fordham wrote: > Sorry for the TOFU. > > I agree with Thomas. Images should always be made independent of a cloud > and provided for download which also provides security auditing > potentials for users. > Not sure why Debian Cloud has not done that yet, but in any ca

Re: [RFR] Press release about Debian on public clouds

2013-03-14 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 03/15/2013 07:59 AM, Craig Small wrote: > Having Debian on some of the largest cloud providers is a good thing. > The fact that their systems are not as open as we'd like is really a > secondary thing because, let's face it, I'm not going to run openstack > and all the associated infrastructure

Re: [RFR] Press release about Debian on public clouds

2013-03-14 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 03/15/2013 01:10 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > Well, not "just because", we do have reasons. Because it's closed > software which AWS and Azure are running. And we care that our > users don't get locked into it. This has, IMO, nothing to do with using > p

Availability of Debian official cloud images from debian.org

2013-03-14 Thread Thomas Goirand
Hi, Multiple times, in the debian-cloud@l.d.o, we've came to the conclusion that Debian should be release images of the stable release (and probably testing as well) to be run in the cloud. I'm bringing this topic to -devel, as I'm convince it is a topic which should be debated with everyone in De

Re: Availability of Debian official cloud images from debian.org

2013-03-15 Thread Thomas Goirand
Hi Zack, Thanks for your answer. On 03/15/2013 04:08 PM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 02:28:07PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> So, put in simple words: we need something like this. Question is, where >> can this be uploaded? To me, cdimage.debian.org

Re: On the distribution (or not) of pre-made images on the Debian mirrors.

2013-03-16 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 03/16/2013 11:19 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: > For instance, is it possible to do anything useful with a tarball > dump as a starting point ? I do believe that a tarball of all files of that cloud image would be a good starting point yes. For DTC-Xen, which I wrote, for example, that's what is us

Re: [RFR] Press release about Debian on public clouds

2013-03-16 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 03/16/2013 12:29 PM, Charles Plessy wrote: > Packages.debian.org indicates packages in Experimental >to be "rc-buggy" no matter their bug status Yes, this shocks me as well. Who can we pinged to get this go away? On 03/16/2013 12:29 PM, Charles Plessy wrote: > For instance > they do not of

Re: [RFR] Press release about Debian on public clouds

2013-03-18 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 03/19/2013 05:29 AM, Michael Dorrington wrote: > On -10/01/37 20:59, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 02:26:50PM +0100, Francesca Ciceri wrote: >>> attached the draft of the upcoming press release about Debian on >>> public clouds: it'd be great if you could review it. Parti

Re: On the distribution (or not) of pre-made images on the Debian mirrors.

2013-03-19 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 03/18/2013 10:30 PM, Charles Plessy wrote: > whouldn't it be better to simply distribute a tarball produced by > debootstrap, instead of starting a cloud instance, connect to it, run > debootstrap through ec2debian-build-ami, fetch the contents of the image, make > a tarball, and stop the instan

Re: [RFR] Press release about Debian on public clouds

2013-03-20 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 03/21/2013 05:50 AM, Michael Dorrington wrote: > Both using the upcoming Wheezy release to do cloud computing > and using SaaS to do cloud computing are being discussed here. Ahem... How to put it ... Well ... No ! :) >> Exactly what freedom do you loose using a public cloud? > The same freedo

Re: Fwd: Notice: A version of Debian GNU/Linux is nearing the end of its support life cycle

2013-03-29 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 03/29/2013 09:11 PM, James Bromberger wrote: > I've generally taken most times I've spun up a 6.0.6 and the first > thing *I* do is: > > *apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade**-y** > * > This ensures I've pulled in all current security updates; that's the > only difference between 6.0.6 and 6.

Re: Offical Non-marketplace AMIs?

2013-04-18 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 03/31/2013 06:07 PM, Brian Gupta wrote: > Are there any plans to publish non-marketplace AMIs? > > Thanks, > Brian Hi, Yes, I am working on building images with a small shell script, directly on Debian, thanks to some input from Julien Danjou and others. Currently, I have the following script:

Re: Offical Non-marketplace AMIs?

2013-04-18 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 04/18/2013 05:31 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > Is the extlinux a good choice? My understanding now, is that it's not. It would work for KVM, but not with Xen. More on this soon, I hope. Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-cloud-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of &quo

Re: Offical Non-marketplace AMIs?

2013-04-21 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 04/19/2013 05:39 PM, Ian Campbell wrote: > On Fri, 2013-04-19 at 06:29 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> On 04/18/2013 05:31 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: >>> Is the extlinux a good choice? >> My understanding now, is that it's not. It would work for KVM, but >>

Re: Offical Non-marketplace AMIs?

2013-04-21 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 04/20/2013 01:59 PM, Charles Plessy wrote: > If the backport is accepted, it may be interesting to mention it in promotion > documents, otherwise, my personal opinion is to stick to the facts (there is > currently no backport) rather than make promises (there will be backports), > even if they a

Re: Please let's not talk about "clouds"

2013-04-21 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 04/21/2013 09:05 AM, Richard Stallman wrote: > "Cloud computing" is the wrong kind of generalization -- it includes > cases that raise totally different issues. To have a sensible > discussion we should focus first on the different kinds of network > services, to see which of them are inherentl

Re: Please let's not talk about "clouds"

2013-04-22 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 04/22/2013 10:32 AM, Richard Stallman wrote: > 2) Facilitating people to use existing Free Software to build "Private > Clouds" using software like CloudStack, Eucalyptus and OpenStack on > top of Debian. > > Presuming these are free software They are. > there's no reason not to i

Re: Please let's not talk about "clouds"

2013-04-22 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 04/22/2013 10:33 AM, Richard Stallman wrote: > If you host the platform and use it, that isn't SaaS. > That is using your own computer. So, for you, the line is who is providing the hosting? I respectfully don't agree. A commercial hosting service could provide a 100% free software hosted plat

Re: Please let's not talk about "clouds"

2013-04-22 Thread Thomas Goirand
If we're talking about virtual servers for rent, please don't call > them "clouds". Using that term spreads confusion every time. Thanks for the reminder. I know you care about wording, I agree it is important, and I will try to follow your guideline. Though, see, when

Re: Please let's not talk about "clouds"

2013-04-22 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 04/22/2013 11:46 PM, Brian Gupta wrote: > would love to discuss this further. Me as well! Freedom on the cloud isn't easy to understand fully for me as well. > As I don't believe your definition of SaaS fits either the definition > that Richard has an issue with, or the general definition used

Re: Please let's not talk about "clouds"

2013-04-22 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 04/23/2013 04:00 AM, Richard Stallman wrote: > But it makes no difference to the users of the service, because they > have no control over the software in the server in either case. > That's why SaaS (more precisely, Service as a Software Substitute) is > always bad. I just do not agree with thi

Re: Please let's not talk about "clouds"

2013-04-22 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 04/23/2013 04:00 AM, Richard Stallman wrote: > That makes no difference to the ethics of the service. Even if the > programs are released as free software in whichever way you like, the > users of the service have no control over what that server does. And so with any shared hosting solution,

Re: Please let's not talk about "clouds"

2013-04-23 Thread Thomas Goirand
rom a service like Amazon. Correct. These IaaS clouds needs virtual machine images to eat, otherwise they are pretty useless! :) > Well, since we can make it so that these images could work on nearly any > IaaS cloud, yes, calling them "an IaaS cloud image" does make sense.

Re: Please let's not talk about "clouds"

2013-04-23 Thread Thomas Goirand
the same issue as with being only a user with no root access in a Unix system (I'm obviously considering we have only free software running on the SaaS here...). Thomas Goirand (zigo) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-cloud-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/517770b8.3050...@debian.org

Re: Please let's not talk about "clouds"

2013-04-24 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 04/24/2013 11:55 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: > > Now I know what you are referring to. This is remote virtual computer > > rental. > > No. Cloud IaaS is very different from just "virtual computer". > > I said "remote virtual computer rental", not just "virtual computer". > > If w

Re: Please let's not talk about "clouds"

2013-04-26 Thread Thomas Goirand
On Sat Apr 27 2013 07:24:22 AM CST, Richard Stallman wrote: >        > It is a category error to describe a service as "proprietary" (or > as      > "free").  If AWS is a service, then it isn't proprietary, and it > isn't      > free. > >        Probably, in your view. Though I still prefer

Re: Please let's not talk about "clouds"

2013-04-26 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 04/27/2013 07:24 AM, Richard Stallman wrote: > Yes, Cloud IaaS is different from just "remote virtual computer rental". > For example, typically, you'd have a service to store virtual machine > images that you have customized, in order to start them as you need (for > example, if

Re: Please let's not talk about "clouds"

2013-04-26 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 04/27/2013 11:31 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: > For those of us heavily involved in the industry (I work for HP Cloud > Services, Thomas works for a company closely involved with OpenStack), > we only are ever talking about IaaS. So "cloud" is shorthand, and like > any shorthand, taken out of context

Re: Please let's not talk about "clouds"

2013-04-28 Thread Thomas Goirand
On Mon Apr 29 2013 05:01:26 AM CST, Richard Stallman wrote: >          Elastic Utility Computing Architecture for Linking Your Programs >          To Useful Systems - is an open-source software infrastructure for >          implementing "cloud computing" on clusters. > > And why say "open sou

Re: Please let's not talk about "clouds"

2013-04-29 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 04/29/2013 03:41 PM, Charles Plessy wrote: > The tools can be used with both Amazon's services and with installations of > the > Eucalyptus open-source cloud-computing infrastructure. I agree with all be the above. euca2ools are useful for OpenStack, and probably others as well. I'd rather see:

Re: Please let's not talk about "clouds"

2013-04-29 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 04/29/2013 05:01 AM, Richard Stallman wrote: > It sounds like what you're talking about is rental of a remote virtual > computer with certain specific features that are useful for offering > Internet services to be accessed from various computers. > > if that is clearer. Do you see

Adding cloud-init in the next Wheezy point release

2013-05-06 Thread Thomas Goirand
ur thoughts? Cheers, Thomas Goirand (zigo) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-cloud-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5187d811.2090...@debian.org

Re: Adding cloud-init in the next Wheezy point release

2013-05-07 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 05/07/2013 08:16 PM, Adam D. Barratt wrote: > On 2013-05-06 17:19, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> In this thread: >> https://lists.debian.org/debian-cloud/2013/05/msg2.html >> >> we have been discussing how we could have cloud-init in the Debian cloud >> images

Re: Are there qcow2's or raw's for use with openstack for wheezy?

2013-05-09 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 05/10/2013 02:41 AM, Brian Gupta wrote: > Thanks, > Brian > They should just work out of the box (though, I'm not sure if qcow2 images would work if you use XenAPI as hypervisor). Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-cloud-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Troubl

debdiff pour les fixes cloud-initramfs-tools

2013-05-23 Thread Thomas Goirand
ove changes, my partition was resized as expected. My target is an OpenStack cloud image (running with KVM), but maybe other cloud users will find this helpful, which is why I am CC-ing debian-cloud@l.d.o. Cheers, Thomas Goirand (zigo) diff -Nru cloud-initramfs-tools-0.18.debian1/debian/c

Cloud not commit to cloud-init

2013-05-26 Thread Thomas Goirand
sr/lib/git-core/git-svn line 922 Charles, can you commit the attached patch? Are the python module and python apps team separated in Alioth? Cheers, Thomas >From 8d431e038d6ddeda37a0e33990efec63fcd8735c Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Thomas Goirand Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 16:31:00 + Subject

New version of cloud-init & OpenStack cloud image

2013-05-29 Thread Thomas Goirand
refuse login as root with password. There's a "debian" user by default, which is added with --disable-password, and who will receive the ssh key from the metadata server. This user has "sudo su -" to root, without any password. Again, thoughts and comments are welcome fro

Re: (dist)-upgrades

2013-05-29 Thread Thomas Goirand
d to Debian Jessie) release in Jessie will be possible and smooth, though it's hard to predict what will happen, and if it will be doable. I am very sorry that I couldn't reply with a clear "yes", and that the answer is a little bit more complicated. If you have more questions, feel

Re: (dist)-upgrades

2013-05-29 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 05/29/2013 02:54 PM, Andrew Stone wrote: > The latest version on github updates from wheezy to Jessie without issue. > > I found that for some reason the Squeeze AMIs on amazon would not update > the kernel on a dist-upgrade. (does someone know why?) I don't understand what this has to do wit

Re: (dist)-upgrades

2013-05-30 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 05/30/2013 02:39 AM, Wim Bertels wrote: > >> I am the one currently maintaining both XCP and OpenStack. I can >> guarantee that you will be able to do dist-upgrades of servers running >> both XCP and OpenStack for the full life cycle of Essex, yes. Probably, >> it will also happen for XCP, as u

Re: New version of cloud-init & OpenStack cloud image

2013-05-31 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 05/31/2013 01:38 AM, Jeff Licquia wrote: > On 05/29/2013 09:45 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> I'm not sure how it compares to other scripts for building a cloud >> image. I didn't have a look into them, as my goal was to make an image >> specifically for Open

Re: (dist)-upgrades

2013-05-31 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 05/31/2013 05:25 AM, Anders Jackson wrote: > > Den 30 maj 2013 20:03 skrev "Thomas Goirand" <mailto:z...@debian.org>>: >> >> On 05/30/2013 02:39 AM, Wim Bertels wrote: >> > this is idd partly the answer i was looking for: >> > so to su

Re: (dist)-upgrades

2013-06-01 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 06/01/2013 08:12 PM, Anders Jackson wrote: > Ok, have missed that one. But I would prefer my infrastructure being > dependent on Debian and not explicitly of one developers repository. There we go, I knew this would happen, but I didn't expect it would happen *before* we even have PPA available

Re: (dist)-upgrades

2013-06-02 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 06/02/2013 06:48 PM, Anders Jackson wrote: > OK, then why call it Personal Package Archive (PPA) if it isn't a PPA? > That is to practically asking to get comments like mine. Probably because the new name hasn't been coined? I'm not sure. I am not responsible for this name. >> No it wont. In

Re: (dist)-upgrades

2013-06-02 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 06/03/2013 03:10 AM, Anders Jackson wrote: > Using OpenStack version name as a suffix on package names for supported > versions of OpenStack in backports would allow two (or more) versions in > the repository and also make witch version in use obvious and old > obsolete versions would also be re

Re: "cloudy" events at DebConf13

2013-06-23 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 06/23/2013 04:04 PM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 10:57:21AM +0800, James Bromberger wrote: >> I've just had approval to come to DebConf in a few weeks (from here in >> Australia), so I hope we can run a good couple of Cloud-agnostic and >> Debian on AWS BoFs and determine

Re: Debian cloud images for OpenStack?

2013-07-05 Thread Thomas Goirand
Masters to the loop, maybe they may find a bit of time to review the packages (it seems they have been busy over the last months, as the NEW queue is growing). I also invite anyone to contribute to the script inside the openstack-debian-images. Cheers, Thomas Goirand (zigo) -- To UNSUBSC

Re: Debian cloud images for OpenStack?

2013-07-05 Thread Thomas Goirand
tack-only (though I suspect the images would work fine with very > little modification on Amazon, at least). I would very much welcome such modifications. Unfortunately, I am not an AWS user, so I can't do it myself, plus I have no time or motivation for it (I don't feel like working on

Re: Debian cloud images for OpenStack?

2013-07-05 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 07/06/2013 08:32 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: > the other blocker to do thinks neatly is the lack of official images with > cloud-init, however at that point, I am still lacking the time to check if > cloud-init is even working at all on Debian. Charles, I have fixed cloud-initramfs-tools, so tha

Re: Anybody intersted in packaging boto's requestbuilder ?

2013-07-05 Thread Thomas Goirand
ption is crap, because I couldn't find any information online. I would appreciate any help on this. Cheers, Thomas Goirand (zigo) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-cloud-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51d7b492.9060...@debian.org

Re: Debian cloud images for OpenStack?

2013-07-06 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 07/06/2013 08:06 PM, Bromberger, James wrote: > Having cloud-init in the AMIs is, IMHO, a core requirement for our next > major release. Lots of newer things depend upon it. I'm happy to read this. > Right now we have cloud-init in backports and testing/Jessie (yay! Well done > Thomas, Jakub

Re: Debian cloud images for OpenStack?

2013-07-07 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 07/06/2013 08:18 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> Right now we have cloud-init in backports and testing/Jessie (yay! Well done >> Thomas, Jakub and Charles). > Thanks, but unfortunately, it is still waiting for FTP masters approval. It seems I was wrong, cloud-init really is in ba

Re: Debian cloud images for OpenStack?

2013-07-08 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 07/08/2013 06:16 PM, Juerg Haefliger wrote: >> On 07/06/2013 08:18 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: >>>> Right now we have cloud-init in backports and testing/Jessie (yay! Well >>>> done Thomas, Jakub and Charles). >>> Thanks, but unfortunately, it is still wai

Re: Debian cloud images for OpenStack?

2013-07-08 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 07/08/2013 06:11 PM, Juerg Haefliger wrote: > There are pros and cons for using a libvirt-based approach for > building images versus a distro-specific non-libvirt method like > debootstrap. My view is that d-i is simply too heavy for what we need, and there is no reason to waste that much time

Re: Debian cloud images for OpenStack?

2013-07-08 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 07/09/2013 04:38 AM, n...@nautil.org wrote: > On 07/08/2013 03:03 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> On 07/08/2013 06:16 PM, Juerg Haefliger wrote: >>>> On 07/06/2013 08:18 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: >>>>>> Right now we have cloud-init in backports and testin

Re: Debian cloud images for OpenStack?

2013-07-08 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 07/09/2013 10:21 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 07/09/2013 04:38 AM, n...@nautil.org wrote: >> On 07/08/2013 03:03 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: >>> On 07/08/2013 06:16 PM, Juerg Haefliger wrote: >>>>> On 07/06/2013 08:18 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: >>>>

Re: Debian cloud images for OpenStack?

2013-07-10 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 07/10/2013 03:08 PM, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 07:16:18AM +0100, Stephen Gran a écrit : >> This one time, at band camp, Thomas Goirand said: >>> On 07/09/2013 04:38 AM, n...@nautil.org wrote: >>>> On 07/08/2013 03:03 PM, Thomas Goirand w

Re: Debian cloud images for OpenStack?

2013-07-11 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 07/11/2013 06:04 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: > For the upload, I am still confused on the reason why we are adding new init > scripts instead of using the Upstream ones. Do you konw why ? Because upstream sysvinit scripts are for CentOS: # If there exist sysconfig/default variable override file

Re: Debian cloud images for OpenStack?

2013-07-11 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 07/11/2013 05:08 PM, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 04:16:41PM +0800, Thomas Goirand a écrit : >> On 07/11/2013 06:04 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: >>> For the upload, I am still confused on the reason why we are adding new init >>> scripts instead of u

Re: Debian cloud images for OpenStack?

2013-07-11 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 07/12/2013 06:33 AM, Chris Fordham wrote: > I think its important to get the sysvinit scripts in the upstream source > so it can be included in the package instead of placing those files in > the image not belonging to a package. > If they get rejected, simply create another project/source so a

Re: Debian cloud images for OpenStack?

2013-07-15 Thread Thomas Goirand
The usual: A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? On 07/15/2013 02:39 PM, Chris Fordham wrote: > Checking it out, cloud-init on LP does not include any service cont

Re: Debian cloud images for OpenStack?

2013-07-15 Thread Thomas Goirand
On Mon Jul 15 2013 08:29:59 PM CST, Chris Fordham wrote: > debian folder of what sorry? > http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~cloud-init-dev/cloud-init/trunk/files/head:/sysvinit/ > is > sysvinit folder. Debian folder of the SVN repository on Alioth. Eg not from the above, but specific to Debian. The

Re: Debian cloud images for OpenStack?

2013-07-15 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 07/15/2013 04:18 PM, Juerg Haefliger wrote: > I can do that. I've provided patches to cloud-init in the past and > know the process and the maintainer. Did you make modifications to the > scripts that I attached to > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=709173? If so, can > you send

Re: Fwd: Debian cloud images for OpenStack?

2013-07-17 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 07/15/2013 04:12 PM, Juerg Haefliger wrote: > 1) cloud-init init --local > 2) cloud-init init > 3) cloud-init modules --mode=config > 4) cloud-init modules --mode=final Since I've done that, my OpenStack instances just fail. So unless someone is able to explain to me why, I will have to revert

cloud-init.config script and bug #709773

2013-07-22 Thread Thomas Goirand
Hi Charles, I have already committed the fix for #709773 in the SVN, and it should be ok now, though it will need testing. Yet, I don't understand what you have done in debian/cloud-init.config. Can you explain? Cheers, Thomas Goirand (zigo) P.S: This was the problem when trying to tes

Re: Debian cloud images for OpenStack?

2013-07-29 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 07/05/2013 02:58 PM, Juerg Haefliger wrote: > Hi, > > I'm responsible for the image catalog in the HP Cloud > (www.hpcloud.com) which runs OpenStack. I'm in the process of pushing > a Debian 7.1 image which should hit public as soon as HP legal is > happy with it (which means it can only be a m

Re: build-debian-cloud and cloud-init

2013-08-20 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 08/19/2013 03:09 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 01:20:46PM +0200, Anders Ingemann a écrit : >> >> cloud-init requires backports to be added. What do you think? > > Hello everybody, > > I recommend to enable backports. Currently, the cloud-init package in > backports is at

Re: Updated euca2ools to 3.0.0-1.

2013-08-22 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 08/21/2013 05:31 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: > Dear all, > > I just updated euca2ools to version 3.0.0-1. Thanks to Thomas Goirand for > packaging python-requestbuilder, which euca2ools 3.0.0 uses in replacement for > Boto, and thanks to Brian Thomason for the ping, as I did no

GCTools/util status

2013-08-22 Thread Thomas Goirand
On Alioth under /git/cloud, there is: python-crcmod python-socksipy google-apputils-python python-oauth2client python-uritemplate. These are for packaging Google compute cloud stuff, which I did during Debconf. I haven't uploaded them to Sid yet, though I probably should have. The ITPs are currentl

Re: AWS marketplace images and high-IO instances

2013-09-29 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 09/30/2013 06:56 AM, James Bromberger wrote: > Hi Luke, > > We (Debian) currently have only generated official PVM > (paravirtualization) based AMIs on AWS, and have yet to make an HVM > images - which is what the larger instance types require. > > Right now I am slowly working on getting the

Re: Call for testing Debian AMI with Cloud-init

2013-10-20 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 10/20/2013 03:54 PM, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote: > Awesome! For 7.2 Google Compute Engine will still start out using the > shell version without cloud-init -- these will go live this week I hope > -- but our patch for cloud-init to support Compute Engine is in the BTS > and in Debian experimental wai

Re: OpenStack Debian 7 Image

2013-10-27 Thread Thomas Goirand
ou sure that you have configured cloud-init correctly? (you can try to dpkg-reconfigure cloud-init to make sure of that) Thomas Goirand (zigo) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-cloud-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/526d4023.6070...@debian.org

Debian Wheezy images for OpenStack in HP cloud

2014-01-07 Thread Thomas Goirand
y are available for everyone. They are up-to-date regarding security updates. Cheers, Thomas Goirand (zigo) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-cloud-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.or

Re: Debian Wheezy images for OpenStack in HP cloud

2014-01-08 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 01/08/2014 04:55 PM, Juerg Haefliger wrote: > Hi Thomas, > >> >> Hi, >> >> I have uploaded an up-to-date Wheezy image using the >> build-openstack-images package currently available in Wheezy. Here's the >> IDs: >> >> region-a.geo-1: >> 4f3a6b69-dd27-4ad1-8307-def66c436f8c >> >> region-b.geo-1:

Re: Debian Wheezy images for OpenStack in HP cloud

2014-01-08 Thread Thomas Goirand
__image_type=disk > - com.hp__1__os_distro=debian > > You might also want to consider to protect the image (glance > image-update --is-protected=true) so that it can't be deleted > accidentally. Although I trust you not to do that :-) > > Best > ...Juerg Added the prop

Re: Debian Wheezy images for OpenStack in HP cloud

2014-01-08 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 01/09/2014 12:23 AM, Juerg Haefliger wrote: >> region-a.geo-1: >> 8e1b9412-792c-4398-803c-cf3166bf128c >> >> region-b.geo-1: >> 25ac3b57-2a3a-4c02-8f41-577b21760d24 > > Works like a charm now and the images are visible in the management console. > > Cool! > ...Juerg Weird, I can't see them in

Re: Building EC2 images locally fails

2014-01-08 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 01/09/2014 04:17 AM, Tomasz Rybak wrote: > Dnia 2014-01-08, śro o godzinie 19:39 +0100, Anders Ingemann pisze: > [ cut ] > > >> >> Argh, forgot to hit Reply-All. >> I just noticed that I didn't really help with your problem, haha. >> The solution is to bootstrap on an EC2-Instance. Right now,

Re: Debian Wheezy images for OpenStack in HP cloud

2014-01-08 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 01/09/2014 12:45 PM, Jose R R wrote: > On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> On 01/09/2014 12:23 AM, Juerg Haefliger wrote: >>>> region-a.geo-1: >>>> 8e1b9412-792c-4398-803c-cf3166bf128c >>>> >>>> region-b.geo-1: >&

Re: Debian Wheezy images for OpenStack in HP cloud

2014-01-09 Thread Thomas Goirand
new VM, then I select: Instance boot source: Boot from image Then on the Image name popup, I can see my image at the bottom of the list, under "Private image - Linux". So there's still something wrong. Note that when I do "glance image-list", I do see the properties y

Re: Debian Wheezy images for OpenStack in HP cloud

2014-01-09 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 01/09/2014 04:19 PM, Juerg Haefliger wrote: > Ah. OK. Confirmed. Seems to be a Horizon bug. Best is if you open a > support ticket. Will do. >> P.S: I still don't get what's the use of the config drive in the HP >> cloud context. Could you explain? > > Do we support config drive? In general,

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