Re: /usr-move: Do we support upgrades without apt?

2023-12-21 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 21.12.23 um 11:50 schrieb Christoph Berg: Re: Helmut Grohne Is it ok to call upgrade scenarios failures that cannot be reproduced using apt unsupported until we no longer deal with aliasing? If the answer is yes here, we'll close #1058937 (Ben's libnfsidmap1 bug) with no action calling the s

Re: Bug#1020792: tech-ctte: Halt merged-/usr transition until dpkg filesystem damage bugs are fixed

2022-09-27 Thread Michael Biebl
This particular issue in dpkg is very much known and nothing new (a short recap: dpkg can lose files if files are moved between packages *and* symlinked directores, such as / and /usr, at the same time). To mitigate it, bluca added a piuparts check which rejects packages that move files from

Bug#947847: Fwd: Bug#946456: systemd: Provide systemd-sysusers as an independent package

2020-10-07 Thread Michael Biebl
Forwarding this to the CTTE, just in case they have some input on this proposed plan. Weitergeleitete Nachricht Betreff: Re: Bug#946456: systemd: Provide systemd-sysusers as an independent package Datum: Wed, 7 Oct 2020 18:21:39 +0200 Von: Michael Biebl An: 946

Bug#947847: please install systemd-sysusers using update-alternatives

2020-01-27 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 27.01.20 um 14:19 schrieb Michael Biebl: > Am 27.01.20 um 11:18 schrieb Thomas Goirand: > >> It is my view that what you're proposing would be a lot more work for on >> valid reason. > > opensysusers as implementation will always lag behind systemd-sysusers >

Bug#947847: please install systemd-sysusers using update-alternatives

2020-01-27 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 27.01.20 um 11:18 schrieb Thomas Goirand: > It is my view that what you're proposing would be a lot more work for on > valid reason. opensysusers as implementation will always lag behind systemd-sysusers and/or be incomplete, it might even be incompatible. This has the potential to negatively

Re: Bug#904558: What should happen when maintscripts fail to restart a service

2018-10-07 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 07.10.18 um 20:55 schrieb Michael Biebl: > Am 07.10.18 um 20:46 schrieb Michael Biebl: >> Let me add here, that a lot of sysv init scripts I looked at do not >> actually return proper error codes in case the service fails to start. >> Picking a random example, like anacron

Re: Bug#904558: What should happen when maintscripts fail to restart a service

2018-10-07 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 07.10.18 um 20:46 schrieb Michael Biebl: > Let me add here, that a lot of sysv init scripts I looked at do not > actually return proper error codes in case the service fails to start. > Picking a random example, like anacron, I see for the start action: > > start-stop-daemon

Re: Bug#904558: What should happen when maintscripts fail to restart a service

2018-10-07 Thread Michael Biebl
> * dh_installinit: defaults to "failure to (re)start is failure to > configure", but can be overridden with --error-handler; some packages > set the error handler to "true" (e.g. apache2, isc-dhcp) or to a custom > shell function (e.g. krb5, samba). > This is used for LSB init scripts, and

Bug#865929: Advice on dealing with GRUB upgrade failure caused by init-select

2017-06-25 Thread Michael Biebl
On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 23:37:13 +0100 Colin Watson wrote > I could have NMUed init-select in both unstable and stretch with a > corrected conffile (and probably also with a corrected sysvinit init-select was not part of stretch, so an NMU would not be possible afaics. At least I would be surprised i

Bug#850887: To the right bug this time: Why do you want us to keep this open?

2017-01-18 Thread Michael Biebl
clone 851412 -1 reassign -1 binutils forwarded -1 https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=21054 retitle -1 Forced local symbol rearranging messes up GOT Hi James Am 17.01.2017 um 12:18 schrieb James Cowgill: > On 17/01/17 09:10, Michael Biebl wrote: >> Am 17.01.2017 um 10:0

Bug#850887: To the right bug this time: Why do you want us to keep this open?

2017-01-17 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 17.01.2017 um 10:02 schrieb Michael Biebl: > Hi there, > > as additional input, please have a look at [1] which just recently > popped up. There seem to be still unresolved issues with binutils on > mips*. I haven't reassigned this bug report to binutils yet, as I wanted

Bug#850887: To the right bug this time: Why do you want us to keep this open?

2017-01-17 Thread Michael Biebl
Hi there, as additional input, please have a look at [1] which just recently popped up. There seem to be still unresolved issues with binutils on mips*. We had quite a few regressions since the 2.28 snapshots were uploaded and we still seem to be running into them. At this point in the release cy

Bug#846002: blends-tasks must not be priority:important

2016-12-10 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 10.12.2016 um 15:20 schrieb Ole Streicher: > If you mean here why we just didn't put blends-tasks as dependency into > tasksel-data: this wouldn't help, since the Policy says (ยง2.5): > > "Packages must not depend on packages with lower priority values" > > Since tasksel-data is Priority: impo

Bug#846002: blends-tasks must not be priority:important

2016-12-10 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 10.12.2016 um 14:15 schrieb Ole Streicher: > Hi Michael, > > On 10.12.2016 13:18, Michael Biebl wrote: >> While I have no opninion on whether blend-tasks is important enough to >> have installed by default, I would urge to revisit the idea to (mis)use >> the packa

Bug#846002: blends-tasks must not be priority:important

2016-12-10 Thread Michael Biebl
While I have no opninion on whether blend-tasks is important enough to have installed by default, I would urge to revisit the idea to (mis)use the package priority to achieve that. If a package was pulled in by debootstrap because of its priority, it's marked as manually installed. This is usuall

Bug#841294: Overrule maintainer of "global" to package a new upstream version

2016-11-15 Thread Michael Biebl
On Tue, 15 Nov 2016 21:32:38 +0100 Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > I think this sounds quite reasonable, all in all. It gets us a newer > version (albeit not for stretch, but I see the points about changing > that so close to the freeze), it gives users some warning about htags > going away (and if that

Bug#728486: Current patch for resolving lvm/systemd compatibility

2014-01-22 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 19.01.2014 11:59, schrieb Bastian Blank: > On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 11:33:32PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: >> On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 01:20:41PM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote: >>> - lvm2.service is statically hooked to local-fs.target, as all local >>> mounts. >>

Bug#728486: Current patch for resolving lvm/systemd compatibility

2014-01-18 Thread Michael Biebl
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 01:20:41PM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote: > Untested patch: > > - Static services with the correct name. Well, the original names from the upstream patch weren't really incorrect. You just have to make sure that the lvm2 sysv init script is correcly "shadowed" by the native s

Bug#688772: [CTTE #688772] Dependency of meta-gnome on network-manager

2013-02-27 Thread Michael Biebl
On 27.02.2013 00:50, Chris Knadle wrote: > When this was brought up in the bug report, the response was "network-manager > can be installed, then disabled", but how to do that wasn't documented > anywhere in the network-manager package. Instead the next suggestion was > documenting this issue i

Bug#699808: tech-ctte: syslinux vs the wheezy release

2013-02-06 Thread Michael Biebl
On 07.02.2013 08:06, Daniel Baumann wrote: > On 02/07/2013 07:55 AM, Michael Biebl wrote: >> I think it is obvious by now that reverting to syslinux 4 from wheezy is >> the only sensible way forward at this point in the release. > > 'obvious'? Imho, yes. But th

Bug#699808: tech-ctte: syslinux vs the wheezy release

2013-02-06 Thread Michael Biebl
On 07.02.2013 07:58, Daniel Baumann wrote: > On 02/07/2013 07:45 AM, Michael Biebl wrote: >> Well, VBOX is pretty popular, so shipping an installer which doesn't >> work for such an environment is certainly a no-go. > > again, the syslinux in sid would not be in wheezy.

Bug#699808: tech-ctte: syslinux vs the wheezy release

2013-02-06 Thread Michael Biebl
On 07.02.2013 07:30, Daniel Baumann wrote: > On 02/06/2013 11:48 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: >> Unfortunately the second patch doesn't work either. See [1]. > > that is incorrect; the patch works, it's just the old vbox version in > current debian testing/sid which has

Bug#699808: tech-ctte: syslinux vs the wheezy release

2013-02-06 Thread Michael Biebl
On 06.02.2013 23:22, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Wed, 06 Feb 2013, Russ Allbery wrote: >> Don Armstrong writes: >> >>> Assuming that the patch for #699742[0] fixes this issue with DI RC >>> releases being installed, is there still an outstanding issue for the >>> CTTE? >> >> Earlier in this thread,

Bug#699808: Bug#699742: syslinux 5.x support

2013-02-06 Thread Michael Biebl
On 06.02.2013 17:48, Michael Biebl wrote: > Hi, > > On 06.02.2013 16:36, Daniel Baumann wrote: >> On 02/05/2013 09:33 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: >>> I tried this patch against cc123e0 from debian-installer git. >>> Unfortunately the problem is still the same. >

Bug#688772: gnome Depends network-manager-gnome

2012-10-25 Thread Michael Biebl
On 25.10.2012 22:47, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Jeremy Bicha (jbi...@ubuntu.com) [121025 18:51]: >> On 25 October 2012 12:17, Don Armstrong wrote: >>> That said, if I'm wrong, and you believe that there is a compromise >>> which would resolve the concerns raised beyond those already presented >>> (s

Bug#688772: gnome Depends network-manager-gnome

2012-10-23 Thread Michael Biebl
On 24.10.2012 03:29, Sam Hartman wrote: > Don, in your option 4B, I wonder if it would be a good idea to have the > depend be something like g-n-m|wicd|no-network-manager The "gnome" meta-package certainly won't get an alternative dependency on wicd. That would be completely stupid and miss the p

Re: Bug#688772: gnome Depends network-manager-gnome

2012-09-26 Thread Michael Biebl
> Russ Allbery writes ("Bug#688772: gnome Depends network-manager-gnome"): >> I've been thinking about this over lunch, and I do feel like the gnome >> metapackage is substantively different than the gnome-core metapackage. >> I'm not sure if it's sufficiently different to warrant a different >> de

Bug#688772: gnome Depends network-manager-gnome

2012-09-25 Thread Michael Biebl
On 25.09.2012 17:34, Ian Jackson wrote: >> I am going to try to get the TC to pass another resolution >> specifically overruling this further decision by the gnome-core >> maintainers. Seriously, WTF! Don't you have better things to do then pissing off everyone? -- Why is it that all of the in

Bug#681687: missing mime entry

2012-07-22 Thread Michael Biebl
On 21.07.2012 23:40, Adam D. Barratt wrote: > On Sat, 2012-07-21 at 23:12 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: >> On 21.07.2012 09:11, Steve Langasek wrote: >> >>> Now, I think providing a tool to auto-translate .desktop files into mailcap >>> entries is a perfectly appropr

Bug#681687: missing mime entry

2012-07-21 Thread Michael Biebl
On 21.07.2012 09:11, Steve Langasek wrote: > Now, I think providing a tool to auto-translate .desktop files into mailcap > entries is a perfectly appropriate way to go about solving this bug, if > someone chooses to do that. If such a tool emerges, I think that's great > for Debian as a whole, an

Bug#681687: Bug#658139: missing mime entry

2012-07-18 Thread Michael Biebl
On 18.07.2012 11:14, Neil McGovern wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 11:45:42PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: >> If a missing mime file would mean an RC bug, this would instantly make >> 514 packages RC buggy. >> Interestingly, the particular section in th

Bug#681834: network-manager, gnome, Recommends vs Depends

2012-07-18 Thread Michael Biebl
On 18.07.2012 23:40, Ian Jackson wrote: > Secondly, it is possible for dhcp entries to be non-trivial. They may > specify interesting scripts to be run, dhcp options, bridging, etc. > It's not clear to me exactly which of these scenarious result in > what outcome. NM doesn't take over any such e

Bug#681834: network-manager, gnome, Recommends vs Depends

2012-07-17 Thread Michael Biebl
On 17.07.2012 22:30, Russ Allbery wrote: > Michael Biebl writes: > >> Also, as an alternative if you can't use network-manager for whatever >> reasons, you can install gnome-core and disable network-manager. This >> is as simple as > >> "update-rc.d n

Bug#681687: missing mime entry

2012-07-17 Thread Michael Biebl
there is a small typo... On 17.07.2012 23:45, Michael Biebl wrote: > Just some numbers I got by grepping over the archive on lintian.d.o: > > # of packages shipping .desktop files with MimeType associat

Bug#681687: missing mime entry

2012-07-17 Thread Michael Biebl
Just some numbers I got by grepping over the archive on lintian.d.o: # of packages shipping .desktop files with MimeType associations: 601 # of packages shipping a corresponding mime file in /usr/lib/mime/packages: 89 If a missing mime file would mean an RC bug, this would instantly make 514 pack

Bug#681834: network-manager, gnome, Recommends vs Depends

2012-07-17 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 17.07.2012 14:56, schrieb Ian Jackson: > block 645656 by 681834 > thanks > > The argument about the dependency from gnome-core to network-manager > has now reached the TC. This has been extensive discussed, most > recently on debian-devel. The most recent response from Josselin is > here: >