Ian Jackson writes (Bug#746715: the foreseeable outcome of the TC vote on init
systems):
I do think there is still something for the TC to do here. As Andi
writes, the TC failed to clarify that we expect people to continue to
support multiple init systems. Evidently this was a mistake. It
Ian Jackson wrote:
Ian Jackson writes (Bug#746715: the foreseeable outcome of the TC vote on
init systems):
I do think there is still something for the TC to do here. As Andi
writes, the TC failed to clarify that we expect people to continue to
support multiple init systems. Evidently
Cameron Norman camerontnor...@gmail.com writes:
From your other message I was under the impression that you thought it
was ok to remove Upstart support, but now you agree that if there was
interest, then it should be kept (as long as it does not cause
issues).
Under the circumstances, I
On 05/06/2014 11:11 AM, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
For instance, to date, we still don't have a newer syslinux in unstable
while he was eager to push syslinux 5 in unstable during the former
freeze
1. syslinux 6 prior 6.02 was not usable because the efi things caused
regressions in the non-efi
Daniel Baumann writes (Bug#746715: the foreseeable outcome of the TC vote on
init systems):
1. syslinux [etc.]
lxc [etc]
Daniel, I appreciate that you feel the need to rebut the criticisms
that have been made of you. I don't think that's unreasonable. But,
I think we should draw a line under
Le 2014-05-06 13:06, Thomas Goirand a écrit :
I believe he is unfriendly with unfriendly people, and I don't think
you
count as one of his friend, given the way you've interacted with him
in
the past.
Well, Raphael is not Daniel's friend... fine. But, actually, who cares?
The
maintainer
Mehdi Dogguy writes (Bug#746715: the foreseeable outcome of the TC vote on
init systems):
Well, Raphael is not Daniel's friend... fine. But, actually, who
cares? The maintainer should go over those details and simply does
his job. What raphael is trying to explain is that he failed in his
Thanks Ian, this is exactly what I think as well, and you expressed it a
way better than I would have.
Thomas
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Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk writes:
Can we stop the general commentary on Daniel Baumann's performance as
maintainer ? I don't think it's helpful or relevant to the discussion
about tftp-hpa and upstart.
Is there still anything left to discuss on tftp-hpa/upstart or could
Ansgar Burchardt writes (Bug#746715: the foreseeable outcome of the TC vote on
init systems):
Is there still anything left to discuss on tftp-hpa/upstart or could
this issue be closed? The last upload restored support for upstart[1].
[1]
Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk writes:
I do think there is still something for the TC to do here. As Andi
writes, the TC failed to clarify that we expect people to continue to
support multiple init systems. Evidently this was a mistake.
On what grounds do you think it was a
On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 09:15:48PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
Ansgar Burchardt writes (Bug#746715: the foreseeable outcome of the TC vote
on init systems):
Is there still anything left to discuss on tftp-hpa/upstart or could
this issue be closed? The last upload restored support for
On 05/06/14 23:15, Ian Jackson wrote:
For the record, the TC expects maintainers to continue to support
the multiple available init systems in Debian. That includes
merging reasonable contributions, and not reverting existing
support without a compelling reason.
Considering:
- The technical
Faidon Liambotis parav...@debian.org writes:
I haven't gotten any such bug reports, so this is still theoretical, but
I think I'd simply reject anything more complicated than simply adding a
debian/foo.upstart file to the tree, including adding (and maintaining)
hacks or modifying existing
El Tue, 6 de May 2014 a las 7:54 PM, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org
escribió:
Faidon Liambotis parav...@debian.org writes:
I haven't gotten any such bug reports, so this is still
theoretical, but
I think I'd simply reject anything more complicated than simply
adding a
debian/foo.upstart file
Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk writes:
Russ Allbery writes (Bug#746715: the foreseeable outcome of the TC vote on
init systems):
On what grounds do you think it was a mistake? As soon as someone talked
to the maintainer in question and asked them to re-add support, support
was
Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes:
I can see your point that the future of upstart is possibly unclear, but
my feeling is that if anyone filed a bug against a package requesting
upstart support, that's sufficient indication of interest to merge upstart
support patches, including this sort
El Tue, 6 de May 2014 a las 8:41 PM, Bdale Garbee bd...@gag.com
escribió:
Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes:
I can see your point that the future of upstart is possibly
unclear, but
my feeling is that if anyone filed a bug against a package
requesting
upstart support, that's sufficient
Steve,
first of all: why haven't you just talked to me? you know more then well
that i've kindly and quickly responded to all your bug reports, on and
offline. #746715 sounds like shooting with a nuclear weapon on little
glitch.
seccond, if you feel that deeply about that particular patch[1] and
* Bdale Garbee (bd...@gag.com) [140503 01:54]:
Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org writes:
Package: tech-ctte
An Ubuntu developer just brought the following Debian changelog entry to my
attention:
tftp-hpa (5.2-17) experimental; urgency=low
* Removing upstart hacks, they are
Bdale Garbee bd...@gag.com (2014-05-02):
However, since this is in experimental, and not in a released tree or
release candidate, this particular case is hard for me to get worked
up about.
http://packages.qa.debian.org/t/tftp-hpa.html has the timeline for the
last few dozens uploads.
Last
Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk:
I have CC'd the packages@address for the package.
jftr, you haven't (tftpa-...@packages.debian.org !=
tftp-...@packages.debian.org).
but i have seen the bug by chance today when checking the ctte mailing
list in my inbox, so i guess no harm done/time
On 05/03/2014 10:05 AM, Andreas Barth wrote:
if we think about overruling him, there might be better
uses for.
such as?
i'm not aware of anything that would displease you in my packages, let
alone anything that would require to 'overrule' me. in the absence of
any bug report from you against
On 3 May 2014 09:31, Daniel Baumann
daniel.baum...@progress-technologies.net wrote:
Steve,
first of all: why haven't you just talked to me? you know more then well
that i've kindly and quickly responded to all your bug reports, on and
offline. #746715 sounds like shooting with a nuclear
Le samedi 03 mai 2014 à 10:31 +0200, Daniel Baumann a écrit :
first of all: why haven't you just talked to me? you know more then well
that i've kindly and quickly responded to all your bug reports, on and
offline. #746715 sounds like shooting with a nuclear weapon on little
glitch.
Wild
Package: tech-ctte
An Ubuntu developer just brought the following Debian changelog entry to my
attention:
tftp-hpa (5.2-17) experimental; urgency=low
* Removing upstart hacks, they are ugly and upstart is dead now.
Since various members of the Technical Committee argued that choosing a
Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org writes:
An Ubuntu developer just brought the following Debian changelog entry to
my attention:
tftp-hpa (5.2-17) experimental; urgency=low
* Removing upstart hacks, they are ugly and upstart is dead now.
Since various members of the Technical
Russ Allbery writes (Bug#746715: the foreseeable outcome of the TC vote on
init systems):
Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org writes:
An Ubuntu developer just brought the following Debian changelog entry to
my attention:
tftp-hpa (5.2-17) experimental; urgency=low
* Removing upstart
Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk (2014-05-02):
(It appears that archive.debian.org doesn't keep snapshots of
experimental so it isn't easy to see exactly what was done.)
You probably want:
http://snapshot.debian.org/package/tftp-hpa/
Packages are easily downloaded this way:
El Fri, 2 de May 2014 a las 3:01 PM, Ian Jackson
ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk escribió:
Russ Allbery writes (Bug#746715: the foreseeable outcome of the TC
vote on init systems):
Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org writes:
An Ubuntu developer just brought the following Debian changelog
entry
Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org writes:
Package: tech-ctte
An Ubuntu developer just brought the following Debian changelog entry to my
attention:
tftp-hpa (5.2-17) experimental; urgency=low
* Removing upstart hacks, they are ugly and upstart is dead now.
Since various members of
On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 04:50:51PM -0700, Bdale Garbee wrote:
Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org writes:
Package: tech-ctte
An Ubuntu developer just brought the following Debian changelog entry to my
attention:
tftp-hpa (5.2-17) experimental; urgency=low
* Removing upstart
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