]] Cameron Norman
Please trim bits you're not replying to.
> El mar, 21 de oct 2014 a las 10:19 , Tollef Fog Heen
> escribió:
> > ]] Russ Allbery
> >> I would be particularly interested in your take on the analysis
> >> that Steve Langasek posted to the debian-devel thread on why
> >> listing
El mar, 21 de oct 2014 a las 10:19 , Tollef Fog Heen
escribió:
]] Russ Allbery
Hello Russ, CTTE,
Hello, systemd maintainers.
We (the Technical Committee) have received a request to override a
maintainer decision around whether systems are switched from
sysvinit to
systemd on upgrade. H
Bdale Garbee writes ("Bug#765803: Status of prompting / notification on upgrade
for init system switch?"):
> Ian Jackson writes:
> > 4. So, if an existing installation has its init system switched, as a
> > result of upgrading or of installing packages, that is a bug
> > (unless it is no
Ian Jackson writes:
> 2. Normally when Debian changes the default provider of some service,
> this means that new installs get the new provider. We do not
> transition existing installs to the new provider during upgrades,
> unless the old provider is being removed.
That's not stri
Ian Jackson writes:
> Russ Allbery writes:
>> Thanks, Tollef! Okay, so there does appear to be a conflict here. It
>> sounds like your primary technical concern, not addressed by Martin's
>> mail, is that getting the dependencies right to install systemd on
>> initial install but not upgrade to
Russ Allbery writes ("Bug#765803: Status of prompting / notification on upgrade
for init system switch?"):
> Thanks, Tollef! Okay, so there does appear to be a conflict here. It
> sounds like your primary technical concern, not addressed by Martin's
> mail, is that getting the dependencies right
Thanks, Tollef! Okay, so there does appear to be a conflict here. It
sounds like your primary technical concern, not addressed by Martin's
mail, is that getting the dependencies right to install systemd on initial
install but not upgrade to it are tricky and have a lot of corner cases,
and you fe
]] Russ Allbery
Hello Russ, CTTE,
> Hello, systemd maintainers.
>
> We (the Technical Committee) have received a request to override a
> maintainer decision around whether systems are switched from sysvinit to
> systemd on upgrade. However, it's not clear to me that an actual decision
> has bee
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 10:06:31 -0400 Martin Pitt wrote:
> I'll leave this to the Debian maintainers, as I'm mostly responsible
> for the Ubuntu side, haven't really discussed this with the two
> Michaels/Tollef/Marco, and I don't feel qualified to speak for the
> Debian systemd team.
>
> My persona
Hi Ian,
On 10/21/2014 05:44 PM, Ian Jackson wrote:
> I think the principle, of whether this switch should be made
> automatic, ought to be addressed separately, and should be regarded as
> a question of overlapping jurisdictions. We can't have different
> maintainers fighting over init on users'
Russ Allbery writes ("Re: Bug#765803: Status of prompting / notification on
upgrade for init system switch?"):
> If you're proposing this as a resolution of #765803, that's fine.
I'm not sure I follow. You think it would be proper for the TC to
pass a resolution along the lines of the one I prop
Ian Jackson writes:
> Tollef Fog Heen claimed in
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=746578#134
> that there is consensus on debian-devel in favour of the switch.
That was some time ago, and Martin has expressed a different opinion. I
think the systemd team should have a chance
Russ Allbery writes ("Re: Bug#765803: Status of prompting / notification on
upgrade for init system switch?"):
> This implies that we had decided not to change init systems on upgrade. I
> don't believe that's correct. I didn't express an opinion on it one way
> or another and intended to leave
Ian Jackson writes:
> I think it would be helpful to write this up as a resolution. How
> about:
> -8<-
> 1. In February the TC decided that the default init system for Linux
> in Debian jessie would be systemd. We have been asked what this
> should mean for systems being upgraded f
Bdale Garbee writes ("Bug#765803: Status of prompting / notification on upgrade
for init system switch?"):
> Russ Allbery writes:
> > I think "default" is about what we install with fresh installs.
> > That's consistent with the other examples you list, where we've picked
> > a default.
>
> I ag
Russ Allbery writes:
> I think "default" is about what we install with fresh installs.
> That's consistent with the other examples you list, where we've picked
> a default.
I agree.
Bdale
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