Luca Brivio [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
One of the biggest problems we experienced is that the existing
documentation, albeit useful and rather rich, is not coherent. I
think we need something more homogeneous, backed by an overall
design. This would not be yet-another-document to read, instead
Hello,
On 8/8/07, Davide Truffa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
we are a few wannabe-DD who think it would be really helpful to have a
comprehensive packaging manual covering just all technical topics about
making and maintaining Debian packages.
On 8/8/07, Luca Brivio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The
On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 05:57:15AM +0200, Davide Truffa wrote:
Hi all,
Tutto molto bello, mi piace l'iniziativa!, ... ma perché il cross post
su d-d-italian? :-)
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[EMAIL PROTECTED],debian.org,bononia.it} -%-
On Wed, 8 Aug 2007, Davide Truffa wrote:
Hi all,
we are a few wannabe-DD who think it would be really helpful to have a
comprehensive packaging manual covering just all technical topics about
making and maintaining Debian packages.
Since the beginning of July, I have started writing a book
On 8/8/07, François Févotte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
On 8/8/07, Davide Truffa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
we are a few wannabe-DD who think it would be really helpful to have a
comprehensive packaging manual covering just all technical topics about
making and maintaining Debian
On Wed, 8 Aug 2007 07:26:11 +0200, Luca Brivio [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Alle mer 8 agosto 2007, Ben Finney ha scritto:
Thanks for taking the initiative to do this work.
Thanks for your attention.
At this moment, we have the New Maintainers' Guide and a bunch of
other more or less good
On Tue, Aug 07, 2007, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
I think that we should standarise user creation/deletion in maintainer
scripts.
True; some notes on:
http://wiki.debian.org/AccountHandlingInMaintainerScripts
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Glipper is currently my package in Debian at 0.95.1-3 and that version
is written in C and uses a binary data file which has raised one bug
(#436078).
There is now a new release that closes this bug, my problem is that
Hello,
On 8/8/07, David Claughton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry, I don't want to be a nuisance, but this has been puzzling me for
a few days now - I can't figure out how the license of a binary package
compiled from a source package could not be derived by combining the
licenses of the
Hello,
On 8/8/07, Davide Truffa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
we are a few wannabe-DD who think it would be really helpful to have a
comprehensive packaging manual covering just all technical topics about
making and maintaining Debian packages.
On 8/8/07, Luca Brivio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The
Hello!
On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 07:27:14 +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
One step might be to convert the New Maintainer's Guide into the
wiki format, then importing any missing information from the Debian
Developers' Reference to it. Putting it all in the wiki is good, so
that it is more easily
Alle mer 8 agosto 2007, Manoj Srivastava ha scritto:
The goal is from my POV to produce something much more complete and
with a different scope: while the NMG etc. are (roughly) tutorials
targeted to people who want to make their first packages etc., the DPH
would be a rich manual for all
Alle mer 8 agosto 2007, Luca Capello ha scritto:
Hello!
On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 07:27:14 +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
One step might be to convert the New Maintainer's Guide into the
wiki format, then importing any missing information from the Debian
Developers' Reference to it. Putting it
On Wed, 8 Aug 2007, Davide Truffa wrote:
Hi all,
we are a few wannabe-DD who think it would be really helpful to have a
comprehensive packaging manual covering just all technical topics about
making and maintaining Debian packages.
Since the beginning of July, I have started writing a book
Alle mer 8 agosto 2007, Lars Wirzenius ha scritto:
On ke, 2007-08-08 at 14:12 +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
Without that structure, and a strict policy of being *only* an index
to existing documents, I don't see how this project would avoid
creating yet-another-document to read, compounding the
François Févotte ha scritto:
Thanks for the initiative. I entirely agree with you: I also use to
spend some time switching back and forth between the different
available documents, and I would definitely use such a unified,
comprehensive packaging manual.
We think this is exactly the problem
Hi,
Checking some things for a build-dependency I will need, I found that
Chris Leishman (aka masklin)[0] had not uploaded a package since
27/10/2004[1] and the packages have clearly new updates.
I think he's clearly MIA and sending him an email for checking would be
a waste of time and his
Hi Jose,
On Wednesday 8 August 2007 15:00, Jose Luis Rivas Contreras wrote:
I think he's clearly MIA and sending him an email for checking would be
a waste of time and his packages should be orphaned as quickly as could.
Please don't make such an assumption. Emailing him is virtually no effort
On 8/8/07, François Févotte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
On 8/8/07, Davide Truffa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
we are a few wannabe-DD who think it would be really helpful to have a
comprehensive packaging manual covering just all technical topics about
making and maintaining Debian
Nico Golde ha scritto:
I don't want to run down this idea but wouldn't the
result be nearly the same as the new maintainers guide +
developers reference + things you think are missing from the
current documentation but can be added?
Our intention is to create an exhaustive documentation
Hi,
I'm a new (though fairly knowledgeable) Debian user and possibly a
prospective developer. Anyway, though I do like Debian a lot, one thing is
obvious - it lags somewhat behind as a desktop (or laptop) distribution as
compared to many other distributions (notably Ubuntu, which is of course
On 08/08/2007, Tim Hull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I'm a new (though fairly knowledgeable) Debian user and possibly a
prospective developer. Anyway, though I do like Debian a lot, one thing is
obvious - it lags somewhat behind as a desktop (or laptop) distribution as
compared to many
We already have this on the desktop, from what I can see (there is
evidence of a scaling-module-loading-thingummy running on boot)
Yes, it loads, but the default scaling governor is set to userspace. As
powernowd isn't included in the desktop task, this effectly means no CPU
scaling by
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Owner: Julien Danjou [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Package name: gsutil
Version : 3.0
Upstream Author : Charles Howes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://www.pkts.ca/gsutil.shtml
* License : GPL
Programming Lang: Perl
Description :
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Severity: wishlist
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Package name: parcelle
Version: 1.0.2
Upstream Author: Xyhthyx [EMAIL PROTECTED]
URL: http://code.google.com/p/xyhthyx/
License: GPLv3
Description: A Python/PyGTK clipboard manager.
Le mercredi 08 août 2007 à 10:23 -0400, Tim Hull a écrit :
* Making laptop frequency scaling/suspend/etc work out of the box
when Laptop task is installed
It works out of the box in etch, with the cpufreq applet for the former
and gnome-power-manager for the latter (provided the hardware is
Le mercredi 08 août 2007 à 11:20 -0400, Tim Hull a écrit :
Iceweasel on the default install is like this - debian.org and Gmail
are two sites which demonstrate this. Instead of Bitstream Vera Sans
(or Serif), parts of these sites use some fugly bitmap font instead
(or a fugly TrueType font,
I guess that is a bug in iceweasel wrt. the default parameters.
Anyway, you should use epiphany instead, which doesn't have this issue
in etch :)
It's not just etch - this happens on lenny/sid as well.
I guess I should file a bug on this - it appears to be fixed in Ubuntu, so
maybe
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Am Mittwoch, den 08.08.2007, 13:24 -0400 schrieb Tim Hull:
Regarding drivers, I know there are source packages in non-free (and
main, for some free but out-of-tree drivers) and the module-assistant
will build these. I was just suggesting a more GUI-oriented approach
(like Ubuntu Restricted
I just reported an ITP Bug for restricted-manager [1]
[1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=436722
--
It does need to be modified to work with Debian, though - such that it pulls
the drivers using m-a instead of using Ubuntu's restricted-modules
package.
Just making sure
On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 07:07:14PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le mercredi 08 août 2007 à 10:23 -0400, Tim Hull a écrit :
* Making laptop frequency scaling/suspend/etc work out of the box
when Laptop task is installed
It works out of the box in etch, with the cpufreq applet for the
On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 01:24:06PM -0400, Tim Hull wrote:
Regarding frequency scaling - it didn't work for me (I had to manually
enable it, though I didn't need a custom kernel or anything like that).
I'll investigate further and possibly file a bug.
/etc/default/cpufrequtils is the place to
On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 07:09:12PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le mercredi 08 août 2007 à 11:20 -0400, Tim Hull a écrit :
Iceweasel on the default install is like this - debian.org and Gmail
are two sites which demonstrate this. Instead of Bitstream Vera Sans
(or Serif), parts of
On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 01:24:06PM -0400, Tim Hull wrote:
Regarding drivers, I know there are source packages in non-free (and main,
for some free but out-of-tree drivers) and the module-assistant will build
these. I was just suggesting a more GUI-oriented approach (like Ubuntu
Restricted
Am Mittwoch, den 08.08.2007, 13:38 -0400 schrieb Tim Hull:
I just reported an ITP Bug for restricted-manager [1]
[1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=436722
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It does need to be modified to work with Debian, though - such that it
Am Mittwoch, den 08.08.2007, 10:23 -0400 schrieb Tim Hull:
adapting Ubuntu's Restricted Manager to work with m-a. Non-free
drivers would *only* be displayed if non-free is in the sources.list.
We should also give the user the option to activate the component, like
we do in gnome-app-install.
--
On Wednesday 08 August 2007 01:24:06 pm Tim Hull wrote:
I guess that is a bug in iceweasel wrt. the default parameters.
Anyway, you should use epiphany instead, which doesn't have this issue
in etch :)
It's not just etch - this happens on lenny/sid as well.
I guess I should file a bug
On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 01:38:18PM -0400, Tim Hull wrote:
I just reported an ITP Bug for restricted-manager [1]
[1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=436722
Just making sure you know this...
You do not have to do this, and I think you have already realized why.
--
[Tim Hull]
Regarding frequency scaling - it didn't work for me (I had to
manually enable it, though I didn't need a custom kernel or anything
like that). I'll investigate further and possibly file a bug.
This is supposed to be handled automatically by the kernel when the
cpufrequtils package
At least with debian.org, it appears the CSS specifies a font of Arial,
Helvetica, sans-serif, which means if msttcorefonts isn't installed, it
falls back to the ugly bitmap Helvetica fonts. Which seems more like a
bug
in the CSS for a website for free software, than in the web browsers
Am Mittwoch 08 August 2007 16:39 schrieb Ben Goodger:
On 08/08/2007, Tim Hull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Making laptop frequency scaling/suspend/etc work out of the box when
Laptop task is installed
We already have this on the desktop, from what I can see (there is evidence
of a
Tim Hull wrote:
* Making laptop frequency scaling/suspend/etc work out of the box when
Laptop task is installed
I'm sad that this didn't get fixed in time for etch, but afaik it's
working fine for lenny. cpufrequtils contains an init script that loads
the appropriate governor module.
In addition, there is not reliable solution for suspend/hibernate,
especially
from X. There still some way to go for X and the kernel to get to there.
The bundled suspend scripts seem to be improving somewhat, but they need
work...
Additionally, it should be noted that a desktop task has
[Julian Andres Klode]
We should try to use binary packages provided by linux-modules-* or
other modules packages by default and fallback to m-a.
You might want to check out the recent changes to discover and
discover-data. It already had support for installing hardware
specific packages using
Ben Goodger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Simplifying the installation of non-free graphics card drivers
should also be a priority, though not to the extent Canonical are
currently planning.
I strongly disagree. The installation of non-free should *not* be a
priority for the Debian project, since
On 08/08/2007, Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ben Goodger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Simplifying the installation of non-free graphics card drivers
should also be a priority, though not to the extent Canonical are
currently planning.
I strongly disagree. The installation of non-free
Which work? Could you please test with both Etch and testing or even
unstable write a report, send to debian-desktop ML -
[EMAIL PROTECTED], pointing to some bugs in or out of
our bug tracking system (if any) ?
I will do this...
It seems that we have no support for FAAC in main yet. Could
sawfish includes a .desktop file, which gets installed into
/usr/share/gnome/wm-properties/Sawfish.desktop
and which is used (I presume) by Gnome, to change the active WM.
lintian says that it's missing the required 'Type' key. But said key
has the allowed values Application, Link and
Luis Rodrigo Gallardo Cruz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
sawfish includes a .desktop file, which gets installed into
/usr/share/gnome/wm-properties/Sawfish.desktop
and which is used (I presume) by Gnome, to change the active WM.
lintian says that it's missing the required 'Type' key. But said
Oh, for the love of god, not more of this...
If these (read: nvidia/ati) drivers were DFSG-compliant, they'd be
included by default. Since this is not possible, it should be made as easy
as possible to install them. The only thing is to ensure that it remains an
opt-in, since people must
François Févotte wrote:
I'm not an expert at all, so I might be wrong. I guess this would be
the case if your source package compiled a statically linked binary
against a library belonging to another source package. The licence of
the binary package would then be a combination of the licences
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You can orphan the package, or make a request for help.
Neil Williams wrote:
Package: wnpp
Severity: normal
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Glipper is currently my package in Debian at 0.95.1-3 and that version
is written in C and
On 8/8/07, Tim Hull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(...)
It seems that we have no support for FAAC in main yet. Could you point
out a package, set of packages or upstream projects that I should look
for?
I meant faad, sorry. Here's the main lib:
Unfortunately, due to various reasons I have been unable to dedicate as much
time and effort as HPLIP and amavisd-new require, lately (as in I couldn't
dedicate any effort to them, really).
Both of these packages are team-maintained in alioth (pkg-hpijs and
amavisd-new projects, respectively),
Ben, please don't send me copies of messages sent to the list.
URL:http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct
Ben Goodger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 08/08/2007, Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I strongly disagree. The installation of non-free should *not* be
a priority for the
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
Regarding frequency scaling - it didn't work for me (I had to
manually enable it, though I didn't need a custom kernel or anything
like that). I'll investigate further and possibly file a bug.
As in my case it didn't work because the cpufreq related modules were
- driver detection
We've driver detection, what's wrong with this feature in your use
case scenario?
I was talking about driver detection with out-of-tree drivers that must be
built with module-assistant. It actually looks like something is in the
works, though.
- more streamlined live-CD
On 8/9/07, Tim Hull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- driver detection
We've driver detection, what's wrong with this feature in your use
case scenario?
I was talking about driver detection with out-of-tree drivers that must be
built with module-assistant. It actually looks like something is
Could you please check that the 'about:plugins' output displays 'mov'
support? If not, which desktop environment and gecko 'based' browser
you're using ? Do you've the related task installed (eg: gnome-desktop
for GNOME, ...) ?
My browser (iceweasel) does include .mov as a supported format.
My browser (iceweasel) does include .mov as a supported format. All the
files I try to play open a player applet, but it does nothing. Trying to
open them manually with Totem results in a Video Codec Advanced Video
Coding (H264) is not installed error message. I even installed the ffmpeg
On 8/9/07, Tim Hull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My browser (iceweasel) does include .mov as a supported format. All the
files I try to play open a player applet, but it does nothing. Trying to
open them manually with Totem results in a Video Codec Advanced Video
Coding (H264) is not
On Wed, 08 Aug 2007, Ben Goodger wrote:
On 08/08/2007, Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Individual developers can work on non-free to their heart's
content, but it should not get any priority from the Debian
project.
If these (read: nvidia/ati) drivers were DFSG-compliant, they'd be
You're right, but I thought you argued about Etch. Btw, the idea is
replace xine with gstreamer as default backend, but we've quite some
time until freeze, meanwhile I would recommend you stay tuned for
tasksel updates and switch to totem-gstreamer and install the 0.10
plugins, all of them
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