Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-02 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 01:56:14AM +0200, Carsten Hey wrote: * Pierre Habouzit [2011-05-01 23:17 +0200]: The problem is, you need to entry points, one for testing as we know it, one for rolling. Actually, we need two entry points each, a default one and an exceptional one. The latter

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-02 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 12:10:42AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 01/05/11 at 23:46 +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: Benefits for Debian: - attract users who think that testing is only a development branch, and want newer software than what one finds in stable. Those users are

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-02 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 05/02/2011 12:10 AM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 01/05/11 at 23:46 +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: Benefits for Debian: - attract users who think that testing is only a development branch, and want newer software than what one finds in stable. Those users are likely to be rather advanced

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-02 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Hai! Pierre Habouzit madco...@madism.org writes: On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 12:28:06PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: Size is just one ingredient. There are plenty of other ways to diminish barrier to deploy big changes in Debian: wider commit access rights, larger VCS repositories, more

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-02 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Heya, Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org writes: I understand members of the release team feel particularly responsible to do various release-critical tasks that should have been done by the maintainers but haven't (for various reasons). And I guess that's the reason of your remark. But

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-02 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 09:13:31AM +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: Hai! Pierre Habouzit madco...@madism.org writes: On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 12:28:06PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: Size is just one ingredient. There are plenty of other ways to diminish barrier to deploy big

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-02 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 02/05/11 at 08:19 +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 12:10:42AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 01/05/11 at 23:46 +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: Benefits for Debian: - attract users who think that testing is only a development branch, and want newer software

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-02 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Pierre Habouzit madco...@madism.org [110501 22:09]: Who are they? Unlike this constant handwaving, I've shared my experience (on #-devel), I'll repeat it here: at work we've like 10 Debian users, some with stable, the other with unstable. Why? Because we're developpers and if our software

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-02 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 09:20:29AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Yes, it's mostly PR bullshit, and I don't expect it to significantly change Debian development processes. However, communication is necessary if we want to attract new users. What might change is more attention from developers to

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-02 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 02/05/11 at 09:30 +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 09:20:29AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Yes, it's mostly PR bullshit, and I don't expect it to significantly change Debian development processes. However, communication is necessary if we want to attract new users.

Re: Crypto consolidation in debian ?

2011-05-02 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 01 mai 2011 à 14:08 +0100, Roger Leigh a écrit : This is something I can understand to an extent. Having a single service providing access to the NSS databases would offer some advantages. Unfortunately, I've only ever heard bad things about nscd. If we could move to having a

Wth rolling? (was: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy)

2011-05-02 Thread Joerg Jaspert
Hi Picking one piece that really leaves me WTF? out of this way-too-long-thread. Happens to be a post by Lucas, but could be anyone else too. 'rolling' is a statement by the project that we consider 'testing' (renamed to 'rolling') Why the heck do we start by renaming testing? This will

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-02 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, On Sun May 01, 2011 at 21:53:58 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 01/05/11 at 20:51 +0200, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: Hi, On Sun May 01, 2011 at 20:02:51 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: 2. determine who is in support of each action plan, through a GR or a poll. I don't think we

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-02 Thread Martin Bagge / brother
On Sun, 1 May 2011, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: weren't there. But as a matter of fact, chances are that those people wouldn't have been able to be Debian Developers today if it weren't for the GR. As I was the very first to apply under the GR (not in the first batch of accepts though) I just

Re: Wth rolling? (was: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy)

2011-05-02 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 02/05/11 at 10:12 +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: Hi Picking one piece that really leaves me WTF? out of this way-too-long-thread. Happens to be a post by Lucas, but could be anyone else too. 'rolling' is a statement by the project that we consider 'testing' (renamed to 'rolling')

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-02 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 02/05/11 at 10:31 +0200, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: Hi, On Sun May 01, 2011 at 21:53:58 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 01/05/11 at 20:51 +0200, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: Hi, On Sun May 01, 2011 at 20:02:51 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: 2. determine who is in support of each

Re: Wth rolling? (was: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy)

2011-05-02 Thread Martin Wuertele
* Lucas Nussbaum lu...@lucas-nussbaum.net [2011-05-02 11:32]: How much of that would apply if we renamed testing to rolling (because it reinforces the PR message), but kept a symlink from testing to rolling? If you want that you need a GR as it overrides a delegate decision. And I predict

Debian rolling: tentative summary

2011-05-02 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi, Since I already sent too many mails in the 'rolling' discussion, I decided to send one more. Here is an attempt at a summary of what was said so far. It might not be complete, it's probably a bit biased, but I hope that it's still better than nothing. When replying, please try to focus on

Re: Debian rolling: tentative summary

2011-05-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Lucas Nussbaum, le Mon 02 May 2011 13:31:31 +0200, a écrit : How we deal with freezes is the hard point in this discussion. I'm personnally in favor of the freeze rolling for 3 months, then fork frozen and unfreeze rolling plan, though it has some problems too (it is not clear whether the

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Debian desktop market focused release

2011-05-02 Thread Abou Al Montacir
On Mon, 2011-05-02 at 13:31 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Benefits for Debian: * Attract users who think that testing is only a development branch, and want newer software than what one finds in stable. Those users are likely to be rather advanced users (free software

Re: Debian rolling: tentative summary

2011-05-02 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 01:31:31PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Hi, Since I already sent too many mails in the 'rolling' discussion, I decided to send one more. Here is an attempt at a summary of what was said so far. It might not be complete, it's probably a bit biased, but I hope that

Re: Debian desktop market focused release

2011-05-02 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 02:40:21PM +0200, Abou Al Montacir wrote: On Mon, 2011-05-02 at 13:31 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Benefits for Debian: * Attract users who think that testing is only a development branch, and want newer software than what one finds in stable. Those

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-02 Thread Carsten Hey
* Pierre Habouzit [2011-05-02 08:08 +0200]: On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 01:56:14AM +0200, Carsten Hey wrote: * Pierre Habouzit [2011-05-01 23:17 +0200]: The problem is, you need to entry points, one for testing as we know it, one for rolling. Actually, we need two entry points each, a

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-02 Thread Carsten Hey
* Lucas Nussbaum [2011-05-02 09:20 +0200]: On 02/05/11 at 08:19 +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: Also note that testing as is has not enough security support, and read Carsten very good example of the PAM issues. How would CUT or rolling address those? The PAM issue outlines how splitting

Bug#625216: python-starpy -- Asterisk (AMI) protocols for Twisted Python

2011-05-02 Thread Paul Belanger
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Debian VoIP Team pkg-voip-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Package name: python-starpy Version : 1.0.0a13 Upstream Author : Michael C. Fletcher mcfle...@vrplumber.com URL :

Re: PPAs for Debian

2011-05-02 Thread Adnan Hodzic
I too believe PPA for Debian is a must have, I personally was thinking of making my own repository where I would store packages before having them pushed into Debian, even if it was for experimental. Putting packages on Ubuntu PPA just doesn't feel right, thus I fully support this idea and would

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-02 Thread Amaya
George Danchev wrote: On Friday 29 April 2011 11:46:30 Lucas Nussbaum wrote: - rename 'testing' to 'rolling' to make it clear that it's usable as a rolling release It is also possible that a 'rename' brings no more value, but a confusion to the users for unpredictable amount of time.

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-02 Thread Amaya
Holger Levsen wrote: Do you think a piuparts / policy workshop (or something) is useful at DebConf11? Please! There's never too much chocolate, cheese or QA in Debconf :) -- .''`. Hate's no fun if you keep it to yourself : :' : -- The life of David Gale `. `' `-

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-02 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, May 01, 2011 at 11:00:58PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: First of all I think you should concede that the exercise you're asking us to do cannot be done as easily as you did yours. I don't concede that. I've read your mail, and to sum up you say: (Note that the concede was on a side

Re: PPAs for Debian

2011-05-02 Thread Roland Mas
Stefano Zacchiroli, 2011-04-30 12:56:15 +0200 : [...] What we lack for that to become a reality is just the code. Marc and Tollef had set up a nice proposal [1] for GSoC this year and were willing to mentor it, but unfortunately no student has shown up. If there are people willing to

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-02 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, May 01, 2011 at 10:43:18PM +0200, Carsten Hey wrote: Testing also has just little protection against severe breakage if it is frozen and updates need to go through rarely used suites. An example illustrates this quite well: Thanks for this example Carsten. However, one example is not

Re: Debian rolling: tentative summary

2011-05-02 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, May 02, 2011 07:31:31 AM Lucas Nussbaum wrote: ... How we deal with freezes is the hard point in this discussion. I'm personnally in favor of the freeze rolling for 3 months, then fork frozen and unfreeze rolling plan, though it has some problems too (it is not clear whether the

Re: Multiarch, policy and cross-compiler libraries for non-Debian architectures

2011-05-02 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org writes: On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 10:46:40PM +0100, Wookey wrote: I expect the multiarch paths to replace the 'traditional cross-compiling' paths in due course for all target architectures, including ones that aren't Debian-suported (i.e currently

Re: [RFC] Changing APT to pre-depend on ${shlibs:Depends}

2011-05-02 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org writes: On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 06:48:22PM +0200, Julian Andres Klode wrote: We might some day later change the way apt works for upgrades is not an argument for adding a pre-dependency now. But that we do want to prevent a broken APT -- when using the

Re: Debian rolling: tentative summary

2011-05-02 Thread Jan Hauke Rahm
On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 02:42:05PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 01:31:31PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Hi, Since I already sent too many mails in the 'rolling' discussion, I decided to send one more. Here is an attempt at a summary of what was said so far. It

Serializing transitions

2011-05-02 Thread Jan Hauke Rahm
On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 11:48:27AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Monday, May 02, 2011 07:31:31 AM Lucas Nussbaum wrote: ... How we deal with freezes is the hard point in this discussion. I'm personnally in favor of the freeze rolling for 3 months, then fork frozen and unfreeze rolling

Re: Debian rolling: tentative summary

2011-05-02 Thread Martin Wuertele
* Jan Hauke Rahm j...@debian.org [2011-05-02 18:23]: Not that I don't understand your asking for reasons but... doesn't look having a large user base look somehow appealing to you? I think many DDs care for such since working on Debian brings more fun if someone's actually using it. Why do

Re: PPA

2011-05-02 Thread Jan Hauke Rahm
On Sun, May 01, 2011 at 06:34:02PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: * Raphael Hertzog (hert...@debian.org) [110501 18:23]: - APT entry to add (i.e. URL of the PPA so that the buildd can fetch build-dependencies not satisfiable in the target suite) Why not just use one location - shouldn't be

Re: Debian rolling: tentative summary

2011-05-02 Thread Jan Hauke Rahm
On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 06:27:02PM +0200, Martin Wuertele wrote: * Jan Hauke Rahm j...@debian.org [2011-05-02 18:23]: Not that I don't understand your asking for reasons but... doesn't look having a large user base look somehow appealing to you? I think many DDs care for such since

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-02 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 05:36:34PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Sun, May 01, 2011 at 11:00:58PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: First of all I think you should concede that the exercise you're asking us to do cannot be done as easily as you did yours. I don't concede that. I've read

Re: Debian rolling: tentative summary

2011-05-02 Thread Martin Wuertele
* Jan Hauke Rahm j...@debian.org [2011-05-02 18:31]: On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 06:27:02PM +0200, Martin Wuertele wrote: * Jan Hauke Rahm j...@debian.org [2011-05-02 18:23]: Not that I don't understand your asking for reasons but... doesn't look having a large user base look somehow

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-02 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 06:42:58PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: Well I don't want to be convinced or not convinced, you misunderstood why I'm asking that. I'm asking because I want to evaluate if rolling is the sole answer we can bring to these people. Oh no, not at all, I apologize if that

Re: Debian rolling: tentative summary

2011-05-02 Thread Jan Hauke Rahm
On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 06:44:11PM +0200, Martin Wuertele wrote: * Jan Hauke Rahm j...@debian.org [2011-05-02 18:31]: On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 06:27:02PM +0200, Martin Wuertele wrote: * Jan Hauke Rahm j...@debian.org [2011-05-02 18:23]: Not that I don't understand your asking for

Re: wanna-build / how to sort packages on buildds?

2011-05-02 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Ingo Jürgensmann i...@2011.bluespice.org writes: On Sun, 1 May 2011 01:36:38 +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: Sometimes we have a few packages we don't want to build on a certain buildds. Sometimes this is because this package needs lots of ram. Or it takes quite long and would waste the

Re: wanna-build / how to sort packages on buildds?

2011-05-02 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes: I just wanted to add that if you would like more statistics reporting for this purpose, I'll be happy to add that to sbuild. Currently we only really report build time and disc space. If you want additional data such as number of cores used,

Re: PPA

2011-05-02 Thread Andreas Barth
* Jan Hauke Rahm (j...@debian.org) [110502 18:34]: On Sun, May 01, 2011 at 06:34:02PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: * Raphael Hertzog (hert...@debian.org) [110501 18:23]: - APT entry to add (i.e. URL of the PPA so that the buildd can fetch build-dependencies not satisfiable in the target

Re: PPA

2011-05-02 Thread Jan Hauke Rahm
On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 07:16:47PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: * Jan Hauke Rahm (j...@debian.org) [110502 18:34]: On Sun, May 01, 2011 at 06:34:02PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: * Raphael Hertzog (hert...@debian.org) [110501 18:23]: - APT entry to add (i.e. URL of the PPA so that the

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-02 Thread Andreas Barth
* Joey Hess (jo...@debian.org) [110501 22:36]: The problem with the moving target is that it means that d-i betas begin to be broken as time goes on after their release, starting with the smallest boot images and moving up to the netinst images. We could e.g. create an copy of testing at the

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-02 Thread Andreas Barth
* Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt (h...@ftwca.de) [110502 09:12]: Pierre Habouzit madco...@madism.org writes: - PPA should focus on: * co-installability when endurable; * documented and working rollback to unstable (IOW downgrading a package to unstable when co-installability

Re: PPA

2011-05-02 Thread Andreas Barth
* Jan Hauke Rahm (j...@debian.org) [110502 19:22]: On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 07:16:47PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: I guess I'm misunderstanding you here, so please help me out. If a package is being worked on in different PPAs regarding different problems (thinking of serializing

Re: Debian rolling: tentative summary

2011-05-02 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Pierre Habouzit madco...@madism.org writes: On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 01:31:31PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Hi, Since I already sent too many mails in the 'rolling' discussion, I decided to send one more. Here is an attempt at a summary of what was said so far. It might not be complete,

Re: wanna-build / how to sort packages on buildds?

2011-05-02 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, April 30, 2011 07:36:38 PM Andreas Barth wrote: Hi, I have a problem I need to solve in perl within wanna-build: Sometimes we have a few packages we don't want to build on a certain buildds. Sometimes this is because this package needs lots of ram. Or it takes quite long and

Re: wanna-build / how to sort packages on buildds?

2011-05-02 Thread Andreas Barth
* Scott Kitterman (deb...@kitterman.com) [110502 19:32]: If one could do something like: wb gb libieee1284 mod-wsgi nflog-bindings zinnia . ia64 . !caballero good idea. I'll consider how to do that. Andi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: Serializing transitions

2011-05-02 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, May 02, 2011 12:26:05 PM Jan Hauke Rahm wrote: On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 11:48:27AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Monday, May 02, 2011 07:31:31 AM Lucas Nussbaum wrote: ... How we deal with freezes is the hard point in this discussion. I'm personnally in favor of the

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-02 Thread Joey Hess
Andreas Barth wrote: We could e.g. create an copy of testing at the time, so that the betas will work for 3 weeks or so. Perhaps we should take an hour or so during debconf and see where we arrive? There is a spec for doing so, which aj mostly developed, at

Re: Wth rolling?

2011-05-02 Thread Joerg Jaspert
'rolling' is a statement by the project that we consider 'testing' (renamed to 'rolling') Why the heck do we start by renaming testing? This will seriously disrupt service for anyone for DAYS. There are just too many places tools are using testing hardcoded. Too many users having that in

Re: Multiarch, policy and cross-compiler libraries for non-Debian architectures

2011-05-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 06:09:17PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: It's not that non-self-hosting archs should be treated differently from self-hosted archs, but that they should be treated the *same* including the requirement that multiarch directories be reserved for packages of the

gtkpod packaging dependencies

2011-05-02 Thread phantomjinx
Hi, Someone with the handle 'mfv' came into the gtkpod irc channel wondering about gtkpod dependencies as he was packaging it for debian. I have already produced an ubuntu ppa for the 2.0.1-beta so thought the debian directory would be useful. Please find attached. (Not registered so please cc

Re: Debian rolling: tentative summary

2011-05-02 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 02 mai 2011 à 19:31 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow a écrit : To those users that want newer software my next question would be What software?. My feeling there is that it is only some software, allways the same software and used for the same use case: KDE / Gnome / Multimedia stuff for

Re: gtkpod packaging dependencies

2011-05-02 Thread David Paleino
On Mon, 02 May 2011 19:54:14 +0100, phantomjinx wrote: Hi, Someone with the handle 'mfv' came into the gtkpod irc channel wondering about gtkpod dependencies as he was packaging it for debian. I put him in CC. David -- . ''`. Debian developer | http://wiki.debian.org/DavidPaleino :

Reporting same bug in different packages

2011-05-02 Thread Patrick Strasser
Hello! I want to report a bug, which occurs in two packages (okular, xpdf) exactly the same way. It's a problem with rendering PDFs. What would be the right way: * File two bugs and refer to each other in a additional message * File one bug and refer to the second package * Something different

Re: Reporting same bug in different packages

2011-05-02 Thread Amaya
Patrick Strasser wrote: I want to report a bug, which occurs in two packages (okular, xpdf) exactly the same way. It's a problem with rendering PDFs. Thanks for spotting this bug. Your contribution to Debian is appreciated. What would be the right way: * File two bugs and refer to each other

Re: Reporting same bug in different packages

2011-05-02 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 05/02/2011 10:46 PM, Amaya wrote: Patrick Strasser wrote: I want to report a bug, which occurs in two packages (okular, xpdf) exactly the same way. It's a problem with rendering PDFs. Thanks for spotting this bug. Your contribution to Debian is appreciated. What would be the right way: *

Re: Reporting same bug in different packages

2011-05-02 Thread Amaya
Mehdi Dogguy wrote: Well, both do use libpoppler5… which is a PDF rendering library. I knew it! :) I guess I missed it (wonder how on earth...) -- .''`. Hate's no fun if you keep it to yourself : :' : -- The life of David Gale `. `' `-Proudly running Debian

Re: gtkpod packaging dependencies

2011-05-02 Thread Matteo F. Vescovi
Hi! On 02/05/2011 20:54, phantomjinx wrote: Hi, Someone with the handle 'mfv' came into the gtkpod irc channel wondering about gtkpod dependencies as he was packaging it for debian. It was me :-) Sorry if I didn't wait long enough for your direct reply. I have already produced an ubuntu

Re: Reporting same bug in different packages

2011-05-02 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 07:20:12PM +0200, Patrick Strasser wrote: Hello! I want to report a bug, which occurs in two packages (okular, xpdf) exactly the same way. It's a problem with rendering PDFs. What would be the right way: * File two bugs and refer to each other in a additional

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-02 Thread Russ Allbery
Lucas Nussbaum lu...@lucas-nussbaum.net writes: [ Note that my position is based on the assumption that we have a share of DDs interested in rolling similar to the share of DDs interested in stable releases. Unfortunately, it's very difficult to know where we stand regarding this. ] I'm very

Re: Reporting same bug in different packages

2011-05-02 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 11:18:45PM +0200, Amaya wrote: Mehdi Dogguy wrote: Well, both do use libpoppler5… which is a PDF rendering library. I knew it! :) I guess I missed it (wonder how on earth...) Because you looked at okular first. okular uses libpoppler-qt4-3 which depends on

Re: Reporting same bug in different packages

2011-05-02 Thread David Prévot
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, Le 02/05/2011 16:46, Amaya a écrit : Patrick Strasser wrote: If d.devel.general is the wrong group, I beg you all pardon and would be thankful for naming a proper group. I'm inclined to believe that discussing propper BTS handling does

Re: PPAs for Debian

2011-05-02 Thread Brian May
On 30 April 2011 20:56, Stefano Zacchiroli lea...@debian.org wrote: Some FAQ on this topic: Q: Why don't you use Launchpad's PPA? A: Last time I looked into it (together with some Launchpad engineers at past UDS), the PPA module was too tightly integrated with other Launchpad parts to

Re: PPAs for Debian

2011-05-02 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
On Sat, 30 Apr 2011, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: Yes, absolutely. I'd even dare to say that having something like PPA for Debian is a priority. It would be yet another way to enable people to experiment with big changes in Debian, showing their value, with minimum impact on the work of others.

Re: gtkpod packaging dependencies

2011-05-02 Thread Chow Loong Jin
Julien was also working on it at the same time, so I'm adding him to CC as well. On 03/05/2011 05:22, Matteo F. Vescovi wrote: Hi! On 02/05/2011 20:54, phantomjinx wrote: Hi, Someone with the handle 'mfv' came into the gtkpod irc channel wondering about gtkpod dependencies as he was

Re: Bug#624997: writerperfect: FTBFS: Style.hxx:36:45: error: 'NULL' was not declared in this scope

2011-05-02 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
(Ccing -devel@, since I have been asked about that by others) On 03/05/11 at 01:16 +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote: tag 624997 - wheezy thanks On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 02:39:43PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Source: writerperfect Version: 0.8.0-3 Severity: serious Tags: wheezy sid No.

Accepted skrooge 0.8.1-1 (source all amd64)

2011-05-02 Thread Fathi Boudra
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 20:28:52 +0300 Source: skrooge Binary: skrooge skrooge-common Architecture: source amd64 all Version: 0.8.1-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian KDE Extras Team

Accepted eglibc 2.13-2 (source all amd64)

2011-05-02 Thread Aurelien Jarno
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 06:11:16 +0200 Source: eglibc Binary: libc-bin libc-dev-bin glibc-doc eglibc-source locales locales-all nscd libc6 libc6-dev libc6-dbg libc6-prof libc6-pic libc6-udeb libc6.1 libc6.1-dev libc6.1-dbg libc6.1-prof

Accepted smb4k 0.10.10-1 (source amd64)

2011-05-02 Thread Fathi Boudra
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 08:52:02 +0300 Source: smb4k Binary: smb4k Architecture: source amd64 Version: 0.10.10-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian KDE Extras Team pkg-kde-ext...@lists.alioth.debian.org Changed-By: Fathi

Accepted reportbug 5.1.1 (source all)

2011-05-02 Thread Sandro Tosi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 08:52:51 +0200 Source: reportbug Binary: reportbug python-reportbug Architecture: source all Version: 5.1.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Reportbug Maintainers

Accepted pykickstart 1.83-1 (source all)

2011-05-02 Thread Fathi Boudra
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 10:15:27 +0300 Source: pykickstart Binary: python-pykickstart Architecture: source all Version: 1.83-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Python Modules Team

Accepted stardict-czech 20110501-1 (source all)

2011-05-02 Thread Michal Čihař
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 09:40:28 +0200 Source: stardict-czech Binary: stardict-czech Architecture: source all Version: 20110501-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Michal Čihař ni...@debian.org Changed-By: Michal Čihař

Accepted gmult 7.3-1 (source amd64)

2011-05-02 Thread Mahyuddin Susanto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 01:33:17 +0700 Source: gmult Binary: gmult Architecture: source amd64 Version: 7.3-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Games Team pkg-games-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org Changed-By: Mahyuddin

Accepted lazygal 0.6.1-1 (source all)

2011-05-02 Thread Michal Čihař
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 09:38:33 +0200 Source: lazygal Binary: lazygal Architecture: source all Version: 0.6.1-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Michal Čihař ni...@debian.org Changed-By: Michal Čihař ni...@debian.org

Accepted libprelude 1.0.0-3 (source amd64)

2011-05-02 Thread Pierre Chifflier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 10:09:55 +0200 Source: libprelude Binary: libprelude-dev libprelude2 libprelude2-dbg libprelude-perl python-prelude Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1.0.0-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Mickael

Accepted stardict-english-czech 20110501-1 (source all)

2011-05-02 Thread Michal Čihař
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 09:44:24 +0200 Source: stardict-english-czech Binary: stardict-english-czech Architecture: source all Version: 20110501-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Michal Čihař ni...@debian.org Changed-By:

Accepted stardict-german-czech 20110501-1 (source all)

2011-05-02 Thread Michal Čihař
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 09:46:42 +0200 Source: stardict-german-czech Binary: stardict-german-czech Architecture: source all Version: 20110501-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Michal Čihař ni...@debian.org Changed-By:

Accepted translatoid 1.30+svn1226145-1 (source amd64)

2011-05-02 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 17:55:01 -0300 Source: translatoid Binary: plasma-widget-translatoid Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1.30+svn1226145-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer

Accepted gupnp 0.16.1-1 (source all amd64)

2011-05-02 Thread Andreas Henriksson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 10:32:40 +0200 Source: gupnp Binary: libgupnp-1.0-3 gir1.2-gupnp-1.0 libgupnp-1.0-dev libgupnp-1.0-dbg libgupnp-doc Architecture: source all amd64 Version: 0.16.1-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer:

Accepted spark 2010.0.deb-2 (source amd64)

2011-05-02 Thread Євгеній Мещеряков
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 10:27:57 +0200 Source: spark Binary: spark Architecture: source amd64 Version: 2010.0.deb-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Євгеній Мещеряков eu...@debian.org Changed-By: Євгеній Мещеряков

Accepted bird 1.3.1-1 (source amd64)

2011-05-02 Thread Ondřej Surý
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 11:20:13 +0200 Source: bird Binary: bird bird6 Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1.3.1-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Ondřej Surý ond...@debian.org Changed-By: Ondřej Surý ond...@debian.org

Accepted k3b 2.0.2-2 (source all amd64)

2011-05-02 Thread Fathi Boudra
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 10:36:26 +0300 Source: k3b Binary: k3b k3b-data k3b-extrathemes k3b-i18n libk3b-dev libk3b6 libk3b6-extracodecs k3b-dbg Architecture: source amd64 all Version: 2.0.2-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer:

Accepted pperl 0.25-5.1 (source i386)

2011-05-02 Thread Dominic Hargreaves
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 15:02:30 +0100 Source: pperl Binary: pperl Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.25-5.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Florian Weimer f...@deneb.enyo.de Changed-By: Dominic Hargreaves d...@earth.li

Accepted python-whisper 0.9.8-1 (source all)

2011-05-02 Thread Elliot Murphy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 09:39:51 -0400 Source: python-whisper Binary: python-whisper Architecture: source all Version: 0.9.8-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Elliot Murphy ell...@ubuntu.com Changed-By: Elliot Murphy

Accepted libgcal 0.9.6-2 (source amd64)

2011-05-02 Thread Fathi Boudra
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 13:48:43 +0300 Source: libgcal Binary: libgcal0 libgcal-dev Architecture: source amd64 Version: 0.9.6-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Michael Banck mba...@debian.org Changed-By: Fathi Boudra

Accepted db4.6 4.6.21-20 (source amd64)

2011-05-02 Thread Ondřej Surý
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 12:18:16 +0200 Source: db4.6 Binary: libdb4.6 db4.6-util Architecture: source amd64 Version: 4.6.21-20 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Berkeley DB Group pkg-db-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org

Accepted db4.7 4.7.25-18 (source amd64)

2011-05-02 Thread Ondřej Surý
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 12:16:29 +0200 Source: db4.7 Binary: libdb4.7-dev libdb4.7 db4.7-util Architecture: source amd64 Version: 4.7.25-18 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Berkeley DB Group

Accepted db4.8 4.8.30-7 (source amd64)

2011-05-02 Thread Ondřej Surý
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 12:32:59 +0200 Source: db4.8 Binary: libdb4.8-dev libdb4.8 db4.8-util Architecture: source amd64 Version: 4.8.30-7 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Berkeley DB Group

Accepted debiandoc-sgml 1.2.24 (source all)

2011-05-02 Thread Osamu Aoki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 18:24:27 +0900 Source: debiandoc-sgml Binary: debiandoc-sgml Architecture: source all Version: 1.2.24 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Osamu Aoki os...@debian.org Changed-By: Osamu Aoki

Accepted mesa 7.10.2-2 (source amd64)

2011-05-02 Thread Cyril Brulebois
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 12:29:37 +0200 Source: mesa Binary: libgl1-mesa-swx11 libgl1-mesa-swx11-dbg libgl1-mesa-swx11-i686 libgl1-mesa-swx11-dev libegl1-mesa libegl1-mesa-dbg libegl1-mesa-dev libegl1-mesa-drivers libegl1-mesa-drivers-dbg

Accepted mic2 0.24.9-1 (source amd64)

2011-05-02 Thread Fathi Boudra
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 14:47:53 +0300 Source: mic2 Binary: mic2 Architecture: source amd64 Version: 0.24.9-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Fathi Boudra f...@debian.org Changed-By: Fathi Boudra f...@debian.org Description:

Accepted prelude-lml 1.0.0-2 (source amd64)

2011-05-02 Thread Pierre Chifflier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 13:55:25 +0200 Source: prelude-lml Binary: prelude-lml Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1.0.0-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Mickael Profeta prof...@debian.org Changed-By: Pierre Chifflier

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