Apologies

2014-09-11 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Sorry about feeding the bickering about systemd. I posted tired and cranky. I stand by what I said, but I'm not going to try to convince you of it, or be part of the bickering, from here on (after this message) I'll make my decision to stay or go in silence and not participate in yet another

Re: Seeking help with OpenVPN scripts and systemd

2014-09-10 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On 10/09/14 02:52 PM, Noel Torres wrote: Yes. Why to install OpenVPN which might not work? aptitude will tell you that they are not coinstallable and the sysadmin will then have the option of switching init system to a non default one, knowing what that means, and having a working OpenVPN

Re: upgrades must not change the installed init system [was: Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing]

2014-09-10 Thread Daniel Dickinson
I will add that for a distribution that claims to be about it's users, the systemd attitude of We're *going* to use systemd so 'suck it up Buttercup' really stinks at a social level. Not to mention, as many have pointed out, transition to systemd is *not* going to be painless and without

Re: upgrades must not change the installed init system [was: Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing]

2014-09-10 Thread Daniel Dickinson
For the heck of it, I will add that if in my job I pushed out crap like Network Manager and Pulseaudio at the time of introduction as 'the saviour of the Linux desktop' as a production release I would have fired long ago. Regards, Daniel On 11/09/14 12:10 AM, Daniel Dickinson wrote: I

Re: upgrades must not change the installed init system [was: Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing]

2014-09-10 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On 11/09/14 12:10 AM, Daniel Dickinson wrote: I will add that for a distribution that claims to be about it's users, the systemd attitude of We're *going* to use systemd so 'suck it up Buttercup' really stinks at a social level. Especially since 'Free' is supposed to be 'as in Freedom

Re: deprecating /usr as a standalone filesystem?

2009-05-10 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Tue, 5 May 2009 17:36:02 +0200 m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) wrote: I have been told by upstream maintainers of one of my packages and by prominent developers of other distributions that supporting a standalone /usr is too much work and no other distribution worth mentioning does it

Keeping track of best practises / policy changes with tracking -devel

2009-03-25 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Hi, I'm finding that I can't keep up with devel but I would like to be able to see a summary of consensuses (consensii?) that result from the discussions, as well a final summaries of best practices (and changes to them. Also a neat changelog of policy changes I should be aware of. Basically I

This topic died off; any resolution?

2009-03-25 Thread Daniel Dickinson
I kind of got lost in this discussion. Is there a summary and debian policy and debian reference patch so that those of us who are just looking to do what we're supposed to do know what we are supposed to do and how to do it? Thanks, Daniel -- And that's my crabbing done for the day. Got it

New quilt source format

2009-03-25 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Is there any information on how the typical package is supposed to use this new format, or (I'm a little confused on this) is it even in place yet? If it's not in place how do we prepare for it? Regards, Daniel -- And that's my crabbing done for the day. Got it out of the way early, now I

Re: Sponsorship requirements and copyright files

2009-03-22 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:00:00 -0700 Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org wrote: No. It is not up to the Debian maintainer to decide that some contributor has written enough of the code to also be mentioned in the (C) lines in a particular file. But as soon as upstream lists them either in a

Re: Bits from the Debian Pure Blends Team

2009-03-20 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:40:24 +0100 (CET) Andreas Tille til...@rki.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, as you might have noticed the effort formerly known as Custom Debian Distributions was renamed to Debian Pure Blends (see [1] for the reasons). This process

Using a CD Set to back to Debian Pool (e.g. for mirror)

2009-02-26 Thread Daniel Dickinson
For those mirroring debian on small space and who want to mirror both CD images and the archive, the page (and related scripts) on the wiki, that I have just posted at http://wiki.debian.org/CDToPool may be of interest. Basically, starting with either a mirror or cd set you can create pool

LXDE doesnt support Debian Menu

2009-02-26 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Is that a violation of a must directive and therefore a bug that will need fixing ASAP? AIUI packages that have a GUI are required to have debian menu, but I'm not sure if the window manager / desktop has the same requirement. -- And that's my crabbing done for the day. Got it out of the way

Accelerated video cards and non-free firmware

2009-02-25 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Hi, I'm looking at getting a video card, and I want to know what video card that has 3D acceleration to get. Normally I'd ask on -users but as the subject says I want to know what video cards will still have acceleration when the non-free firmware is removed from the kernel, which is supposed to

Re: starting gnome with xephyr in chroot fails

2009-01-06 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:54:54 +0100 Grammostola Rosea rosea.grammost...@gmail.com wrote: I tried to start Xephyr: debian-live$ Xephyr :1 -screen 1024x768 -ac Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic, removing from list! Could not init font path element

Re: 1 of 400 dpkg databases corrupt?

2008-08-26 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 02:07:48 +0200 Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indeed. This would also rule out a temporary bug in popcon (in that case, it would have been a peak which would subside over time). Instead, my guess is that there are corner-case situations in which popcon tries to

Re: 1 of 400 dpkg databases corrupt?

2008-08-26 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 02:07:48 +0200 Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Another possibility might be a group of people having popcon and something like cron-apt installed at the same time; if both cronjobs trigger at approximately the same time, that would greatly increase the

Re: bitmap fonts: Can they be rejected by default instead of with manual intervention?

2008-08-22 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:39:29 -0700 Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any reason this isn't the default behaviour? It is the default. /var/lib/dpkg/info/fontconfig-config.templates: Template: fontconfig/enable_bitmaps Type: boolean Default: false Description:

Re: bitmap fonts: Can they be rejected by default instead of with manual intervention?

2008-08-22 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:46:25 +0200 Miriam Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/8/22 Daniel Dickinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:39:29 -0700 Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any reason this isn't the default behaviour? It is the default. Hmmm...I

Re: bitmap fonts: Can they be rejected by default instead of with manual intervention?

2008-08-22 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:46:25 +0200 Miriam Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/8/22 Daniel Dickinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:39:29 -0700 Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any reason this isn't the default behaviour? It is the default. Hmmm...I

Re: bitmap fonts: Can they be rejected by default instead of with manual intervention?

2008-08-22 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:19:07 +0800 Paul Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Installing fontconfig (or just fontconfig-config) in a sid cowbuilder chroot results in neither symlink being installed. This correlates with my memory of having to tweak the fontconfig directory after installing

bitmap fonts: Can they be rejected by default instead of with manual intervention?

2008-08-21 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Hi all, I recently had trouble with a website that uses Times and Helvetica which I was able to determine was due to unscaled fonts not printing well. It took some digging but I eventually, after exploring links and browsing /etc/fonts based on a link about something else for mozilla that I was

Re: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu

2008-07-06 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 00:13:30 +0700 Mikhail Gusarov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Twas brillig at 13:08:40 06.07.2008 UTC-04 when [EMAIL PROTECTED] did gyre and gimble: JH So, after sufficient time, the gnome menu will contain a random JH assortment of the menu items that also appear in the

gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu

2008-07-05 Thread Daniel Dickinson
For discussion: Gnome, KDE, and XFCE are the the top three desktops used in debian and cover most users of desktops in debian. They all use xdg .desktop-based menus as their main menu. xdg .desktop-based menus are not covered by policy. This means some maintainers refuse to use them (see bug

Re: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu

2008-07-05 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 10:54:30 +0200 Thomas Viehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another solution would be to make debian-menu build .desktop entries for the menu in the main menu namespace and not the 'Debian' namespace; this seems like the easiest solution. +1 I don't think that the

Re: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu

2008-07-05 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 10:54:30 +0200 Thomas Viehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Wise wrote: On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 4:15 PM, William Pitcock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Honestly, policy really needs to be updated to use the XDG standards menu spec, and every WM at this point really

miBoot floppies for debian-installer and use of people.debian.org

2008-01-26 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Hi all, I have a question. I have at various times been interested on getting Debian working on an Old World PowerPC Macintosh and have come across a situation that confuses me. I was able to get the mac working with the use of floppies that include a tool call miBoot, that are distributed on

Re: ITP: adun.app -- a Molecular Simulator

2006-08-30 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 09:24:21PM +1000, Steffen Joeris wrote: Hi * Package name: adun.app Maybe I miss some essential parts, but I always wonder why some people add a .app to the software name? Can you please give me a short explanation or point me to a previous thread? IIRC

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-08-28 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 01:17:42PM +0200, Mgr. Peter Tuharsky wrote: At the beginning of my comments, there has been a statement from Rudy: We have no easy-way-to-get-it to tell people why they would want to use Debian. Ubuntu, on the other hand, has achieved to do so, and what they tell

One non-DD's thoughts on dfsg-freeness and firmware

2006-08-26 Thread Daniel Dickinson
I know previously I said I thought that firmware didn't matter for freeness, but I've been convinced by the arguments here that I was wrong. Anyway, what I really wanted to say is that as a user (who hopes to get time to contribute, maybe even eventually as a DD), that I chose Debian because of

Re: ITP: openwatcom -- C/C++ compiler and IDE that produce efficient, portable code

2006-08-18 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 05:35:52PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2006-07-03 09:04:39, schrieb Lars Wirzenius: su, 2006-07-02 kello 18:17 -0400, Jason Spiro kirjoitti: * Package name: openwatcom Description : C/C++ compiler and IDE that produce efficient, portable code

Is inability to operate with root read-only (and separate /etc, /dev, etc) a bug or design decision?

2006-08-12 Thread Daniel Dickinson
A little while back I tried to setup a system that used a read-only root filesystem during regular operation and ran into some problems during boot. The first is that /etc needs to be read-write but init scripts break badly if /etc is not on the root filesystem (probably could be fixed in

Re: Place to submit scripts useful for Debian

2006-07-25 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 07:31:56AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Daniel Dickinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.07.25.0324 +0100]: I have written a script that I think would be useful in Debian. It seems excessive to make a package for for it, but a quick google for 'debian scripts

Place to submit scripts useful for Debian

2006-07-24 Thread Daniel Dickinson
to write raw data (usually a floppy image) to a # floppy. # copyright (C) 2006 Daniel Dickinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] # This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify # it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by # the Free Software Foundation; either version

Re: ITP: openwatcom -- C/C++ compiler and IDE that produce efficient, portable code

2006-07-06 Thread Daniel Dickinson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 2 Jul 2006 18:17:20 -0400 Jason Spiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: openwatcom Version : I plan to do version 1.4 (or 1.6, if it comes out soon) Upstream Author : an independent

Copyright on Debian Wiki?

2006-07-05 Thread Daniel Dickinson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The copyright link is missing (http://wiki.debian.net/copyright.html) but the copyright was broken anyway (see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianWikiIsNotGFDL). What is the copyright on the wiki, and where is the correct link to the copyright notice, that

Netatalk and SSL

2006-06-17 Thread Daniel Dickinson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ok, I'm confused. In the netatalk README.Debian it says that the Debian project has decided that OpenSSL is GPL-incompatible and therefore he can't distribute the ssl-based portions of netatalk (like encrypted authentication with classic macs). I

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-28 Thread Daniel Dickinson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Er, is it just me or isn't the point of gnupg that there *are* people you *can't trust*. We wouldn't be needing digital signatures if everybody honoured the 'gentleman's agreement' that we should only sign as ourselves (or at most as a pseudonym that

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-11 Thread Daniel Dickinson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 13:44:57 -0300 André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi ! I'm creating a meta package for install a lite desktop for old machines with poor hardware. That's an admiral goal, however I would be prepared for a