Re: Can we ship sources of a PDF file in the Debian diff? (was: Re: phyml_20081203-1_powerpc.changes REJECTED)

2009-04-28 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 07:36:27PM -0700, Steve Langasek a écrit : > On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 08:41:14PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > > Le Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 01:42:04PM +, Joerg Jaspert a écrit : > > > Hi Maintainer, > > > > rejected, i think we are missing the source for the pdf in doc/. >

Re: ignoring the CoC in regards to cc:s (Re: Can we ship sources of a PDF file in the Debian diff? (was: Re: phyml_20081203-1_powerpc.changes REJECTED)

2009-04-28 Thread Jonathan Wiltshire
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:46:01AM +0100, Brett Parker wrote: > *boggle* - you claim to be on multiple lists and yet you don't use server side > filtering and folders?! OK - now that's just plain odd. Neither do I, does that make me odd too? By all means comment on how I or anyone elses uses lists

Re: ignoring the CoC in regards to cc:s (Re: Can we ship sources of a PDF file in the Debian diff? (was: Re: phyml_20081203-1_powerpc.changes REJECTED)

2009-04-28 Thread Brett Parker
On 27 Apr 18:55, Noah Slater wrote: > On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 07:48:50PM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote: > > I fully agree with this. I think having to remember which key one must > > use in each context for "r"eply is lame. This is why I do in my ~/.muttrc: > [...] > > Where l/debian is the folder whi

Re: ignoring the CoC in regards to cc:s (Re: Can we ship sources of a PDF file in the Debian diff? (was: Re: phyml_20081203-1_powerpc.changes REJECTED)

2009-04-27 Thread William Pitcock
On Mon, 2009-04-27 at 14:05 +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > > On Montag, 27. April 2009, Philipp Kern wrote: > > Interestingly you did it again, ignoring the list Code of Conduct. > > As it sadly happens many times every day. And as long as there are no means > to > enforce it (either pure

Re: ignoring the CoC in regards to cc:s (Re: Can we ship sources of a PDF file in the Debian diff? (was: Re: phyml_20081203-1_powerpc.changes REJECTED)

2009-04-27 Thread Noah Slater
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 07:35:48PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/98dec/I-D/draft-ietf-drums-mail-followup-to-00.txt > > Perfectly well defined. An interesting riposte for those arguing the opposite IETF angle. If adherence to standards is so important, surely it's

Re: Can we ship sources of a PDF file in the Debian diff? (was: Re: phyml_20081203-1_powerpc.changes REJECTED)

2009-04-27 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 08:41:14PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 01:42:04PM +, Joerg Jaspert a écrit : > > Hi Maintainer, > > rejected, i think we are missing the source for the pdf in doc/. > Almost two monthes of waiting to read this… What was the license on the PD

Re: ignoring the CoC in regards to cc:s (Re: Can we ship sources of a PDF file in the Debian diff? (was: Re: phyml_20081203-1_powerpc.changes REJECTED)

2009-04-27 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 04:16:08PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le lundi 27 avril 2009 à 14:44 +0200, Michael Tautschnig a écrit : > > If you're annoyed by cc:s (well, Holger, I know you are, you told me about > > that > > more than once :-) ), configure your mailclient to set Mail-Followup-To

Re: ignoring the CoC in regards to cc:s (Re: Can we ship sources of a PDF file in the Debian diff? (was: Re: phyml_20081203-1_powerpc.changes REJECTED)

2009-04-27 Thread Brian May
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 04:16:08PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > C. Only supported by a handful of clients A number of clients won't automatically generate the header, but may still support it for group replies. I think this might include Evolution and Thunderbid (although it was a while s

Re: ignoring the CoC in regards to cc:s (Re: Can we ship sources of a PDF file in the Debian diff? (was: Re: phyml_20081203-1_powerpc.changes REJECTED)

2009-04-27 Thread Noah Slater
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 07:48:50PM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote: > I fully agree with this. I think having to remember which key one must > use in each context for "r"eply is lame. This is why I do in my ~/.muttrc: [...] > Where l/debian is the folder which contains Debian lists, and it allows > to a

Re: ignoring the CoC in regards to cc:s (Re: Can we ship sources of a PDF file in the Debian diff? (was: Re: phyml_20081203-1_powerpc.changes REJECTED)

2009-04-27 Thread Adeodato Simó
+ Noah Slater (Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:10:17 +0100): > Yes, I know the L command, but thanks for pointing it out! My argument > is that I have to remember to use when I am replying to the Debian > lists I fully agree with this. I think having to remember which key one must use in each context for "r"

Re: ignoring the CoC in regards to cc:s (Re: Can we ship sources of a PDF file in the Debian diff? (was: Re: phyml_20081203-1_powerpc.changes REJECTED)

2009-04-27 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 27 avril 2009 à 14:44 +0200, Michael Tautschnig a écrit : > If you're annoyed by cc:s (well, Holger, I know you are, you told me about > that > more than once :-) ), configure your mailclient to set Mail-Followup-To and > hope > for the next poster's mailclient to support that header. Wh

Re: ignoring the CoC in regards to cc:s (Re: Can we ship sources of a PDF file in the Debian diff? (was: Re: phyml_20081203-1_powerpc.changes REJECTED)

2009-04-27 Thread Michal Čihař
Hi Dne Mon, 27 Apr 2009 13:33:06 + Clint Adams napsal(a): > On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 02:48:36PM +0200, Michal Čihař wrote: > > Definitely not the only one which mandates this. > > Please list others so I can mock them. For example Mutt lists I mentioned. I saw the same rule in Frugalware an

Re: ignoring the CoC in regards to cc:s (Re: Can we ship sources of a PDF file in the Debian diff? (was: Re: phyml_20081203-1_powerpc.changes REJECTED)

2009-04-27 Thread Clint Adams
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 02:48:36PM +0200, Michal Čihař wrote: > Definitely not the only one which mandates this. Please list others so I can mock them. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: ignoring the CoC in regards to cc:s (Re: Can we ship sources of a PDF file in the Debian diff? (was: Re: phyml_20081203-1_powerpc.changes REJECTED)

2009-04-27 Thread Noah Slater
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 02:06:01PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 03:03:10PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > > On Montag, 27. April 2009, Noah Slater wrote: > > > * The Debian lists do not have a Reply-To header, > > > does someone know why? > > http://www.unicom.com/pw/re

Re: ignoring the CoC in regards to cc:s (Re: Can we ship sources of a PDF file in the Debian diff? (was: Re: phyml_20081203-1_powerpc.changes REJECTED)

2009-04-27 Thread Noah Slater
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 02:48:36PM +0200, Michal Čihař wrote: > > * The Debian lists are the only lists I have ever come across that > > mandate, or > > even care, about such a thing. I have been on many lists in my time, > > and my > > current list of mailing list subscriptions stands

Re: ignoring the CoC in regards to cc:s (Re: Can we ship sources of a PDF file in the Debian diff? (was: Re: phyml_20081203-1_powerpc.changes REJECTED)

2009-04-27 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 03:03:10PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Montag, 27. April 2009, Noah Slater wrote: > > * The Debian lists do not have a Reply-To header, > does someone know why? http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ.

Re: ignoring the CoC in regards to cc:s (Re: Can we ship sources of a PDF file in the Debian diff? (was: Re: phyml_20081203-1_powerpc.changes REJECTED)

2009-04-27 Thread Holger Levsen
Dear lazylist, On Montag, 27. April 2009, Noah Slater wrote: > * The Debian lists do not have a Reply-To header, does someone know why? regards, Holger signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: Can we ship sources of a PDF file in the Debian diff? (was: Re: phyml_20081203-1_powerpc.changes REJECTED)

2009-04-27 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009, Noah Slater wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 11:27:03AM +, Philipp Kern wrote: On 2009-04-26, Noah Slater wrote: On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 06:03:07PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: FIRST: GO AWAY WITH YOUR STUPID CC'S. I OBVIOUSLY READ THE LIST. Dude, chill out. Intere

Re: ignoring the CoC in regards to cc:s (Re: Can we ship sources of a PDF file in the Debian diff? (was: Re: phyml_20081203-1_powerpc.changes REJECTED)

2009-04-27 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 01:39:15PM +0100, Noah Slater wrote: > * The Debian lists do not have a Reply-To header, meaning that by default my > email client wants to send replies to individual posters. To get the > mailing > list included in the reply means that I have to reply to all. It'

Re: ignoring the CoC in regards to cc:s (Re: Can we ship sources of a PDF file in the Debian diff? (was: Re: phyml_20081203-1_powerpc.changes REJECTED)

2009-04-27 Thread Michael Tautschnig
> Hi, > > On Montag, 27. April 2009, Philipp Kern wrote: > > Interestingly you did it again, ignoring the list Code of Conduct. > > As it sadly happens many times every day. And as long as there are no means > to > enforce it (either pure social or aided by technology), it will continue to > h

Re: ignoring the CoC in regards to cc:s (Re: Can we ship sources of a PDF file in the Debian diff? (was: Re: phyml_20081203-1_powerpc.changes REJECTED)

2009-04-27 Thread Michal Čihař
Hi Dne Mon, 27 Apr 2009 13:39:15 +0100 Noah Slater napsal(a): > * The Debian lists are the only lists I have ever come across that mandate, > or > even care, about such a thing. I have been on many lists in my time, and > my > current list of mailing list subscriptions stands at 73.

Re: ignoring the CoC in regards to cc:s (Re: Can we ship sources of a PDF file in the Debian diff? (was: Re: phyml_20081203-1_powerpc.changes REJECTED)

2009-04-27 Thread Noah Slater
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 02:05:37PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > > On Montag, 27. April 2009, Philipp Kern wrote: > > Interestingly you did it again, ignoring the list Code of Conduct. > > As it sadly happens many times every day. And as long as there are no means to > enforce it (either pure

Re: Can we ship sources of a PDF file in the Debian diff? (was: Re: phyml_20081203-1_powerpc.changes REJECTED)

2009-04-27 Thread Noah Slater
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 11:27:03AM +, Philipp Kern wrote: > On 2009-04-26, Noah Slater wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 06:03:07PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > >> FIRST: GO AWAY WITH YOUR STUPID CC'S. I OBVIOUSLY READ THE LIST. > > Dude, chill out. > > Interestingly you did it again, igno

ignoring the CoC in regards to cc:s (Re: Can we ship sources of a PDF file in the Debian diff? (was: Re: phyml_20081203-1_powerpc.changes REJECTED)

2009-04-27 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Montag, 27. April 2009, Philipp Kern wrote: > Interestingly you did it again, ignoring the list Code of Conduct. As it sadly happens many times every day. And as long as there are no means to enforce it (either pure social or aided by technology), it will continue to happen. regards,

Re: Can we ship sources of a PDF file in the Debian diff? (was: Re: phyml_20081203-1_powerpc.changes REJECTED)

2009-04-27 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2009-04-26, Noah Slater wrote: > On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 06:03:07PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: >> FIRST: GO AWAY WITH YOUR STUPID CC'S. I OBVIOUSLY READ THE LIST. > Dude, chill out. Interestingly you did it again, ignoring the list Code of Conduct. Kind regards, Philipp Kern -- To UNSUB

Re: Can we ship sources of a PDF file in the Debian diff? (was: Re: phyml_20081203-1_powerpc.changes REJECTED)

2009-04-26 Thread Noah Slater
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 06:03:07PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > FIRST: GO AWAY WITH YOUR STUPID CC'S. I OBVIOUSLY READ THE LIST. Dude, chill out. -- Noah Slater, http://tumbolia.org/nslater -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". T

Re: Can we ship sources of a PDF file in the Debian diff? (was: Re: phyml_20081203-1_powerpc.changes REJECTED)

2009-04-26 Thread Cyril Brulebois
FIRST: GO AWAY WITH YOUR STUPID CC'S. I OBVIOUSLY READ THE LIST. Noah Slater (26/04/2009): > > JFWIW, I guess you want license-related stuff to go into > > debian/copyright, rather than README.source. > > Actually, I would use debian/copyright for simply specifying licences, > and debian/README.

Re: Can we ship sources of a PDF file in the Debian diff? (was: Re: phyml_20081203-1_powerpc.changes REJECTED)

2009-04-26 Thread Noah Slater
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 04:01:31PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Charles Plessy (26/04/2009): > > But since in the rejected package I had taken great care to include > > uuencoded sources of the PDF and explained this in REAME.source, can > > you confirm this was not acceptable for Debian and th

Re: Can we ship sources of a PDF file in the Debian diff? (was: Re: phyml_20081203-1_powerpc.changes REJECTED)

2009-04-26 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Charles Plessy (26/04/2009): > But since in the rejected package I had taken great care to include > uuencoded sources of the PDF and explained this in REAME.source, can > you confirm this was not acceptable for Debian and that shipping > sources in the Debian diff is not enough? JFWIW, I guess y

Re: Can we ship sources of a PDF file in the Debian diff? (was: Re: phyml_20081203-1_powerpc.changes REJECTED)

2009-04-26 Thread Norbert Preining
On So, 26 Apr 2009, Charles Plessy wrote: > > rejected, i think we are missing the source for the pdf in doc/. > > Almost two monthes of waiting to read this… > > I have re-uploaded to non-free because I am sick of wasting my time with this > kind of issue. But since in the rejected package I had

Can we ship sources of a PDF file in the Debian diff? (was: Re: phyml_20081203-1_powerpc.changes REJECTED)

2009-04-26 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 01:42:04PM +, Joerg Jaspert a écrit : > Hi Maintainer, > > rejected, i think we are missing the source for the pdf in doc/. Almost two monthes of waiting to read this… I have re-uploaded to non-free because I am sick of wasting my time with this kind of issue. But sin