Re: De-Branding of Icedove, reintroducing Thunderbird packages into Debian

Is that why the latest version of THUNDERBIRD is terrible? Even Microsoft OUTLOOK is faster than THUNDERBIRD now. A Vinke

Re: De-Branding of Icedove, reintroducing Thunderbird packages into Debian

Le 19/02/2017 à 08:37, Carsten Schoenert a écrit : > Hello, > > Am 19.02.2017 um 07:12 schrieb Josh Triplett: >> Mike Hommey wrote: >>> Why not just create a ~/.thunderbird symlink to ~/.icedove if >>> ~/.icedove exists? >> >> This seems like the right solution. (Or, equivalently, rename >>

Re: De-Branding of Icedove, reintroducing Thunderbird packages into Debian

On 19/02/17 08:37, Carsten Schoenert wrote: > Hello, > > Am 19.02.2017 um 07:12 schrieb Josh Triplett: >> Mike Hommey wrote: >>> Why not just create a ~/.thunderbird symlink to ~/.icedove if >>> ~/.icedove exists? >> >> This seems like the right solution. (Or, equivalently, rename >> ~/.icedove

Re: De-Branding of Icedove, reintroducing Thunderbird packages into Debian

Thunderbird er at fremstille et uafhængigt postprogram, som fungerer på tværs af platforme med brug af sproget for XUL-brugerfladen. . Den tirs 21/2/17 skrev Carsten Schoenert <c.schoen...@t-online.de>: Emne: Re: De-Branding of Icedove, reintro

Re: De-Branding of Icedove, reintroducing Thunderbird packages into Debian

Hello Lionel, Am 21.02.2017 um 11:38 schrieb Lionel Elie Mamane: > If home directories are shared between machines, one machine has > icedove and the other thunderbird, will they collaborate decently on > the same profile directory? this should work as the "real" old Icedove packages uses

Re: De-Branding of Icedove, reintroducing Thunderbird packages into Debian

On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 08:37:14AM +0100, Carsten Schoenert wrote: > Am 19.02.2017 um 07:12 schrieb Josh Triplett: >> Mike Hommey wrote: >>> Why not just create a ~/.thunderbird symlink to ~/.icedove if >>> ~/.icedove exists? >> This seems like the right solution. (Or, equivalently, rename >>

Re: De-Branding of Icedove, reintroducing Thunderbird packages into Debian

Hello, Am 19.02.2017 um 07:12 schrieb Josh Triplett: > Mike Hommey wrote: >> Why not just create a ~/.thunderbird symlink to ~/.icedove if >> ~/.icedove exists? > > This seems like the right solution. (Or, equivalently, rename > ~/.icedove to ~/.thunderbird and place a symlink in the other >

Re: De-Branding of Icedove, reintroducing Thunderbird packages into Debian

Mike Hommey wrote: > Why not just create a ~/.thunderbird symlink to ~/.icedove if > ~/.icedove exists? This seems like the right solution. (Or, equivalently, rename ~/.icedove to ~/.thunderbird and place a symlink in the other direction.) Any particular reason not to do this? - Josh Triplett

Re: De-Branding of Icedove, reintroducing Thunderbird packages into Debian

Le 16/02/2017 à 20:00, Carsten Schoenert a écrit : > Am 16.02.2017 um 19:26 schrieb Michael Biebl: >> You already have a NEWS entry for the de-branding which talks about the >> user profile. Maybe add an additional section there, that the old >> profile is kept as ~/.icedove and that the user can

Re: De-Branding of Icedove, reintroducing Thunderbird packages into Debian

On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 12:35:52PM -0500, Christoph Goehre wrote: > Hi Debian Developers and followers, > > Thunderbird is back in Debian! We also renamed other related packages to > use official names, e.g. iceowl-extension -> lightning. > > For now, we need testers to catch existing issues and

Re: De-Branding of Icedove, reintroducing Thunderbird packages into Debian

On 16/02/17 06:35, Christoph Goehre wrote: For now, we need testers to catch existing issues and things we haven't seen until now. Great job. Everything seems to have gone smoothly. I am using XFCE on sid. I found a few residual post-migration mentions of icedove that I eradicated manually

Re: De-Branding of Icedove, reintroducing Thunderbird packages into Debian

On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 07:15:38PM +0100, Carsten Schoenert wrote: > there is a reason why we decided to not delete anything here that is > related to the users scope. We don't want delete user files and > configuration as the impact of a deleted folder or files is much bigger > as not used backup

Re: De-Branding of Icedove, reintroducing Thunderbird packages into Debian

On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 09:41:38PM +0100, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: > On 16/02/17 20:14, Adam Borowski wrote: > > Following good general practice and having the disk encrypted is of no > > help as they force you to enter your password, often with multi-year jail > > time (UK) if you fail to

Re: De-Branding of Icedove, reintroducing Thunderbird packages into Debian

Emilio Pozuelo Monfort writes: > On 16/02/17 20:14, Adam Borowski wrote: >> Following good general practice and having the disk encrypted is of no >> help as they force you to enter your password, often with multi-year jail >> time (UK) if you fail to comply. > > Link? I think

Re: De-Branding of Icedove, reintroducing Thunderbird packages into Debian

On 16/02/17 06:35, Christoph Goehre wrote: For now, we need testers to catch existing issues and things we haven't seen until now. Great job. Everything seems to have gone smoothly. I am using XFCE on sid. I found a few residual post-migration mentions of icedove that I eradicated manually

Re: De-Branding of Icedove, reintroducing Thunderbird packages into Debian

On 16/02/17 20:14, Adam Borowski wrote: > Following good general practice and having the disk encrypted is of no > help as they force you to enter your password, often with multi-year jail > time (UK) if you fail to comply. Link?

Re: De-Branding of Icedove, reintroducing Thunderbird packages into Debian

Hi, Le 15/02/2017 à 18:35, Christoph Goehre a écrit : > With the change to the official Mozilla branding the users profile(s) will > also > be changing from '$HOME/.icedove' to '$HOME/.thunderbird' so we need to > migrate > the profile folder. This is done by /usr/bin/thunderbird, a wrapper

Re: De-Branding of Icedove, reintroducing Thunderbird packages into Debian

Am 16.02.2017 um 20:14 schrieb Adam Borowski: > What about this: in your startup wrapper, check if > ~/.icedove_moved_by_thunderbird_starter is present. If it is, display a > nagging popup asking the user to verify if their mails are still present, > and if so, delete the directory. This would

Re: De-Branding of Icedove, reintroducing Thunderbird packages into Debian

On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 07:15:38PM +0100, Carsten Schoenert wrote: > Am 15.02.2017 um 22:12 schrieb Adam Borowski: > >> * Copy the contents of the old profile folder into the new folder > >> ~/.icedove_moved_by_thunderbird_starter > > > > I see no deletion step. This is bad for a couple of

Re: De-Branding of Icedove, reintroducing Thunderbird packages into Debian

Am 16.02.2017 um 19:26 schrieb Michael Biebl: > You already have a NEWS entry for the de-branding which talks about the > user profile. Maybe add an additional section there, that the old > profile is kept as ~/.icedove and that the user can delete that manually > if the upgrade has been completed

Re: De-Branding of Icedove, reintroducing Thunderbird packages into Debian

Am 16.02.2017 um 19:15 schrieb Carsten Schoenert: > And I don't see a needed discussion about that small issue as mostly > every singe MP3 file is bigger than the common users profile folder for > Mozilla Thunderbird. My thunderbird profile is 3.6G. But I get your point about deleting users data

Re: De-Branding of Icedove, reintroducing Thunderbird packages into Debian

Am 15.02.2017 um 19:49 schrieb Contact Webmasteur: > Thunderbird in Debian Jessie and Debian Stretch ? When ? There is simple answer for this, it's done if it's done. This will mean, Stretch is on the way and for now it looks good I think. For Jessie we need to start the packaging work, but also

Re: De-Branding of Icedove, reintroducing Thunderbird packages into Debian

Hello Adam, Am 15.02.2017 um 22:12 schrieb Adam Borowski: >> * Copy the contents of the old profile folder into the new folder >> ~/.icedove_moved_by_thunderbird_starter > > I see no deletion step. This is bad for a couple of reasons: > * my .icedove takes north of 2GB (mostly imap cache of

Re: De-Branding of Icedove, reintroducing Thunderbird packages into Debian

Hello, Am 16.02.2017 um 17:49 schrieb Michael Biebl: > Am 16.02.2017 um 12:01 schrieb Nick Morrott: >> Could it not migrate to $HOME/.mozilla/thunderbird, to be consistent >> with firefox? > > ~/.thunderbird is the upstream default location for some reason and I > think it makes sense to not

Re: De-Branding of Icedove, reintroducing Thunderbird packages into Debian

Am 16.02.2017 um 12:01 schrieb Nick Morrott: > Could it not migrate to $HOME/.mozilla/thunderbird, to be consistent > with firefox? ~/.thunderbird is the upstream default location for some reason and I think it makes sense to not diverge from upstream in that regard. -- Why is it that all of

Re: De-Branding of Icedove, reintroducing Thunderbird packages into Debian

On 15 February 2017 at 17:35, Christoph Goehre wrote: > Hi Debian Developers and followers, > > Thunderbird is back in Debian! We also renamed other related packages to > use official names, e.g. iceowl-extension -> lightning. > > For now, we need testers to catch existing

Re: De-Branding of Icedove, reintroducing Thunderbird packages into Debian

On 02/15/2017 06:35 PM, Christoph Goehre wrote: > Thunderbird is back in Debian! thanks, much appreciated. > will also be changing from '$HOME/.icedove' to '$HOME/.thunderbird' why not migrate to ~/.mozilla/thunderbird (#363811) or ~/.config/thunderbird ? Regards, Daniel

Re: De-Branding of Icedove, reintroducing Thunderbird packages into Debian

Hello, on a home folder that has travelled with me over the years, ~/.icedove is linked to ~/.thunderbird or vice versa (machine is at home right now, and I can't check). Please make sure that any migration script is non-destructive with such a setup, as I don't think that it is uncommon at all!

Re: De-Branding of Icedove, reintroducing Thunderbird packages into Debian

On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 12:35:52PM -0500, Christoph Goehre wrote: > Thunderbird is back in Debian! We also renamed other related packages to > use official names, e.g. iceowl-extension -> lightning. While I stick to Iceweasel, this isn't anywhere as visible for Icedove so I'll grudgingly accept

Re: De-Branding of Icedove, reintroducing Thunderbird packages into Debian

Thunderbird in Debian Jessie and Debian Stretch ? When ? Le 15/02/2017 à 19:18, Paul Sutton a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 This sounds a good idea, and may reduce any confusion out there. Paul On 15/02/17 17:35, Christoph Goehre wrote: Hi Debian Developers and

Re: De-Branding of Icedove, reintroducing Thunderbird packages into Debian

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 This sounds a good idea, and may reduce any confusion out there. Paul On 15/02/17 17:35, Christoph Goehre wrote: > Hi Debian Developers and followers, > > Thunderbird is back in Debian! We also renamed other related > packages to use official