Re: Less interactive upgrades.

2000-03-18 Thread Steve Greenland
On 16-Mar-00, 21:33 (CST), Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like I said though, I am not messing with any of this until potato is released. Oh, absolutely. However, Wichert wrote woody+2, which seemed excessive (at current rate of release, that's about 2003.) -- Steve

Re: Less interactive upgrades.

2000-03-17 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Tom Rothamel wrote: The problem I have is that dpkg keeps on prompting me as to the disposition of config files I have changed. Don't get me wrong, I like the fact that it asks me what to do... I just wish it would do it at the start, and proceed cleanly through the upgrade without

Re: Less interactive upgrades.

2000-03-17 Thread Daniel Burrows
It seems to me that a better way to do this (in the abstract case :) ) would be to librarify dpkg -- that is, to make a libdpkg which approximately parallels libapt. This would also have the effect of solving some annoying quirks in the apt/dpkg interaction which are caused (if I remember

Re: Less interactive upgrades.

2000-03-17 Thread Robert Thomson
On Thu, Mar 16, 2000 at 06:24:47PM -0500, Will Lowe wrote: One other question: Does anyone think having a never ask about this config file again option is a good thing? I'm torn. Not on a per-conffile basis, I think. Maybe there should be a way to make the default for _all_ conffiles be

Re: Less interactive upgrades.

2000-03-17 Thread Steve Greenland
On 16-Mar-00, 18:02 (CST), Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, and you still loose if people don't use apt. Well, there's a *lot* features one doesn't get unless one uses apt. So? There is already a patch to make dpkg log things using syslog. At some point I'ld like to generalize

Re: Less interactive upgrades.

2000-03-17 Thread Ben Collins
On Thu, Mar 16, 2000 at 08:36:15PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote: On 16-Mar-00, 18:02 (CST), Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, and you still loose if people don't use apt. Well, there's a *lot* features one doesn't get unless one uses apt. So? There is already a patch to make

Re: Less interactive upgrades.

2000-03-17 Thread Tom Rothamel
On 16 Mar 2000 20:14:47 -0500, Wichert Akkerman wrote: It's rather slow, since you need to unpack the .deb to get the md5sums for its conffiles, read /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list to see if a conffiles still belongs to a package, /var/lib/dpkg/status to get the previous md5sums, etc. Actually,

Re: Less interactive upgrades.

2000-03-16 Thread Ben Collins
On Thu, Mar 16, 2000 at 02:18:25PM -0500, Tom Rothamel wrote: One of the minor annoyances in Debian is the prompting that goes on during package upgrades. It's not the fact that the prompting occurs... I like the fact that it doesn't silently redo the system configuration... but rather the

Re: Less interactive upgrades.

2000-03-16 Thread Stefan Ott
sounds nice. there's another thing about apt-get which IMHO should be changed (if this option already exists i'm sorry for being too lame for the docs): my connection often suffers time-outs and i afterwards have to do a --fix-missing. i think it would be nice if you could tell apt-get to try

Re: Less interactive upgrades.

2000-03-16 Thread Tom Rothamel
On Thu, Mar 16, 2000 at 02:25:10PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: In /etc/apt/sources.list add these lines: DPkg { Options {--force-confdef;} } This will make dpkg always choose the default option to the conffile questions. If there is no default, it will still prompt (not likely), so you

Re: Less interactive upgrades.

2000-03-16 Thread Will Lowe
- When apt runs to upgrade packages, it will call a new program (which I plan to write) in the same way that it calls dpkg-preconfigure. TNP would scan the list of upgraded packages, I've had the same thought, but not enough time to begin such a project. I wonder if there would be some

Re: Less interactive upgrades.

2000-03-16 Thread Tom Rothamel
On 16 Mar 2000 16:06:34 -0500, Will Lowe wrote: I've had the same thought, but not enough time to begin such a project. I wonder if there would be some way to integrate this with the existing debconf system -- if it uses the same interface, etc., end-users will be much happier. I plan to

Re: Less interactive upgrades.

2000-03-16 Thread Will Lowe
Debconf integration doesn't seem all that likely, as the two are fairly orthagonal. (In the Debian world, configuration and configuration files seem to be rather distinct things.) Yes, they're pretty distinct, but it seems a little counterintuitive to have to configure a package twice: once