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Please direct me to where I ought to be asking this question so that
I'm most likely going to get an answer, if here's not the place.
I'm working the examples in Advanced Programming in the UNIX
Environment, by W. Richard
I will be traveling from the 16th to the 23rd, and won't be able to work on
my packages. I'd appreciate non-maintainer releases if anything serious
comes up.
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On Mon, 15 Dec 1997, Brian Bassett wrote:
I recently switched to Debian from RedHat 4.2 and the one thing that I
think that Debian could really use is an administration tool.
Thus, I've decided to try and write such a tool. I've set up a webpage
(http://www.butterfly.ml.org/debadmin/) and
Brian == Brian Bassett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Brian The current plan calls for three interfaces (text-based
Brian curses, X, and Web/CGI).
`deity' works on console, xterm, and X. Perhaps you can utilize that
toolkit?
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Enrique Any ideas?
`publib' has some editor buffer stuff in it... could you use that
somehow?
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Hi,
This concerns a potential buffer overrun problem with glibc2 -- wanted to
make sure that the relevant Debian people were aware of it. I'm not
running a hamm system anymore so I can't test it against the Debian libc6.
TL
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On Mon, 15 Dec 1997, Brian Bassett wrote:
I recently switched to Debian from RedHat 4.2 and the one thing that I
think that Debian could really use is an administration tool.
I suggested something similar a couple weeks ago and was informed that
this discussion had taken place already. I
Fabrizio Polacco writes:
Yann Dirson wrote:
Problem: it's really a mmap image (thus works only for executables,
not libs), and includes the libs symbols:
But the real problem is that the sizes are ... unmanageable
the shared lib is half the size of the static one, while the
I stand corrected. DebAdmin looks dead before it gained life.
A note to whoever is now maintaining the WNPP list: You probably want to
remove the mention from section 7 about the need for an admin tool.
Brian
On Mon, 15 Dec 1997, Joe Emenaker wrote:
On Mon, 15 Dec 1997, Brian Bassett
Folks,
Richard emailed me this. Unfortunately, I won't have time to deal with this.
And I don't even know what freeciv is ...
It would be great if someone else could help out.
Thanks, Dirk
---BeginMessage---
Hi. I will be in Sweden until next Monday, perhaps you've seen my mail
to
Here are the diffs related to the (1 of 2) mail.
Thanks, Dirk
---BeginMessage---
--- freeciv-1.4.3.orig/common/registry.c
+++ freeciv-1.4.3/common/registry.c
@@ -187,7 +187,8 @@
}
}
- fclose(fs);
+ if (ferror(fs) || fclose(fs) == EOF)
+return 0;
return 1;
}
---
(I need that to display messages directed to stderr from busybox when
linked to a Slang program, as in:
Uh? Why don't you just do...
int p[2];
pipe(p);
if(!fork())
{
dup2(p[1],2);
exec...
}
/* now you can read the output from the p[0] file descriptor... */
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A. P. Harris writes:
I think that /etc/ppp/ip-up and /etc/ppp/ip-down should use 'run-parts'
against, say, the directories /etc/ppp/ip-{up,down}.d/.
This would allow, for instance, MTA packages to ship little scripts to
flush the mail queue when the link comes up, pop-deamons to start up,
Karl M. Hegbloom writes:
I think the main thing is that a person with very little experience
should be led through the initial setup by a script, at the very least.
It would be good to tell them about `minicom', with some instructions on
how to use it to get the info they need to construct a
So do I. I first asked Christoph for this back in the spring, and I've since
asked Phil Hands about it when he took over the package and I've seen nothing
happen yet..
It's on my TODO list. I was intending to release a package including this
this evening, but I've just wasted a couple of
Yann Dirson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Adam P. Harris writes:
I think that /etc/ppp/ip-up and /etc/ppp/ip-down should use
'run-parts' against, say, the directories /etc/ppp/ip-{up,down}.d/.
This would allow, for instance, MTA packages to ship little scripts to
flush the mail queue
liiwi Hello! I'm having trouble with fetchmail and procmail. The trouble
liiwi is that fetchmail ignores the 'mda formail -s procmail' line
liiwi totally and delivers all mail to port 25. nice. I can't remember,
liiwi how many times I have checked everything.
Which version are you
On 14 Dec, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
More expected money out:
About $2000 for the 501(c)3 non-profit status. This
was waiting for all those papers we were fedexing around.
We have an undedicated $2000 to $3000 to spend on Debian and other
SPI programs. Part of this was supposed to be for
Adam P. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I think that /etc/ppp/ip-up and /etc/ppp/ip-down should use
'run-parts' against, say, the directories /etc/ppp/ip-{up,down}.d/.
Stunningly good idea. Make it so :
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PGP fingerprint = E8 0E 0D 04 F5 21 A0 94 53 2B 97
Mark recently informed me that he'd accepted my offer to work on the
new emacs20 package. I just wanted to let everyone know that I was
getting started. I'd like to get something out very soon, but the
holidays may interfere a little.
Feel free to let me know if you have suggestions about how
I would also like to suggest a print or two. I do not know if this
idea would actually make money, but I would buy one.
Uh-oh, you moved this topic from the other mailing list. Consider your
knuckles rapped :-) No harm done this time, but be careful.
We were discussing t-shirts and such for
Paul Slootman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So, perhaps the bunzip code could be included in the bzip2 package;
That sounds like the best idea.
Guy
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Origin of squid is Argentina.
We also can offer Milkfish and Tilapia.
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DEAR SIRS:
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Origin of squid is Argentina.
We also can offer Milkfish and Tilapia.
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2. We are more than eager to make you satisfied with quick and precise
service.
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
With debmake, new functionality was added all the time, and was added into
the same debstd program, changing its behavior, and so different versions
could have widly differing results on the same package.
With debstd, each individual program has a
DEAR SIRS:
1. We produce items as follows:
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2. We are more than eager to make you satisfied with quick and precise
service.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
How fast are isp's converting to pap? No point in putting a lot of
work into dealing with chatscripts if they are going away soon.
I believe that there will soon (if not already) be very few ISPs which
don't support PAP or CHAP. chat isn't going to be used for
The newer emacs source wants to put some files in /usr/share/emacs and
/usr/libexec/emacs by default. The emacs 19 package put all these
files together in /usr/lib/.
I would assume /usr/share is now OK since it's in the FSSTND (to some
extent) and other packages are using it, but what about
Philip Hands [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I thought I'd call the PAM-free ppp package ppp-base, like perl-base.
I'm still not sure about the best way to do this though. It looks like the
only thing that needs to be different is the pppd binary, so:
Should I make ppp contain only the pppd
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Date: Saturday, December 13, 1997 2:39 PM
Subject: Debian-devel subscriber count
Goodness gracious. Debian-devel has 400 subscribers. Must be a lot of
lurkers.
Mark W. Eichin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ps. Of course the behaviour in paragraph 2 has nothing to do with unix
either; unix terminal handling is far too primitive for that. Long
Live Multics :-)
Of course, nowadays the interact command under expect can easily
handle this kind of thing...
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Tyson Dowd:
A couple of us discussed this (and other problems with the mailing
list), in the thread Duplicate messages on this list in debian-devel
about a week ago and eventually came to a standstill where most people
in the discussion were happy with the following solution:
Set
Dear Postmaster,
PLEASE STOP this SPAM now.
This is SPAM, because is unsolicited and unwanted. If there is no
notice from you that it has been fixed, you and maybe all your
domain and your ip-networks will be blackholed at maps.vix.com (see
http://maps.vix.com for more information)
There is no
Guy Maor writes:
I'd suggest that all such packages only try to compile and package the
libc5 packages if there is a libc5 installed.
No, that's a bad idea. A package might silently build incorrectly
because a developer didn't have libc5 or libc5-dev installed.
Unfortunately
On Mon, 15 Dec 1997, Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote:
(I need that to display messages directed to stderr from busybox when
linked to a Slang program, as in:
Uh? Why don't you just do...
int p[2];
pipe(p);
if(!fork())
{
dup2(p[1],2);
exec...
}
/* now you can read the output
Please let noone think that just because that absurd and awful
suggestion was the last thing anyone said that everyone is happy with
it.
Rather, the rest of us have more important things to do than to fight
battles with people with broken mailers and broken ideas about how
mailers ought to
Rob Browning [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Feel free to let me know if you have suggestions about how this
package should be handled. I'm planning to cooperate with the xemacs
and emacs (19) package maintainers to make sure we support the
simultaneous installation of all three packages.
I am
On Tue, 16 Dec 1997, Alex Yukhimets wrote:
Please let noone think that just because that absurd and awful
suggestion was the last thing anyone said that everyone is happy with
it.
Rather, the rest of us have more important things to do than to fight
battles with people with broken
On 16 Dec 1997, Rob Browning wrote:
The newer emacs source wants to put some files in /usr/share/emacs and
/usr/libexec/emacs by default. The emacs 19 package put all these
files together in /usr/lib/.
I would assume /usr/share is now OK since it's in the FSSTND (to some
extent) and other
On 16-Dec-1997, Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tyson Dowd:
A couple of us discussed this (and other problems with the mailing
list), in the thread Duplicate messages on this list in debian-devel
about a week ago and eventually came to a standstill where most people
in the discussion
Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please check out http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html . The page
contains several arguments against the use of Reply-To. I fully agree to
what Ian said.
I personally find header-munging of any sort distasteful, however
I think a couple of
On 16-Dec-1997, Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please check out http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html . The page
contains several arguments against the use of Reply-To. I fully agree to
what Ian said.
Please don't quote this URL as if all the issues in this web page
The Debian web pages need the help of someone who follows bugtraq.
Currently the security web page is updated at random times (and
not very well). If you already follow bugtraq then you could
help Debian a lot by sending updates to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If you already follow bugtraq, then this won't
Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As the current emacs package installs its libs into
/usr/lib/emacs/19.34/..., will moving this below /usr/share break other
packages?
I'll certainly make sure that's not a problem before I do it, but so
far, I doubt it will be. I don't think that
Brian == Brian Mays [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yann Dirson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Adam P. Harris writes:
I think that /etc/ppp/ip-up and /etc/ppp/ip-down should use
'run-parts' against, say, the directories /etc/ppp/ip-{up,down}.d/.
This would allow, for instance, MTA packages to ship
[You (Rob Browning)]
Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As the current emacs package installs its libs into
/usr/lib/emacs/19.34/..., will moving this below /usr/share break other
packages?
I'll certainly make sure that's not a problem before I do it, but so
far, I doubt it will be.
Hi,
I'm trying to build packages for a library and running into a number
of problems. I've build a package for a regular executable
by following the instructions in the Debian Packaging Manual.
However, I haven't found a step-by-step dicussion of how
to build a library.
I was hoping someone on
[ Brokenly-long lines wrapped ]
Philip Hands [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
ppp is needed for doing an install from the internet via a dialup
link. PAM is not needed until you want people to log into the
system, so libpam is a waste of space on the install disks.
I'm not certain it's worth the
Mark recently informed me that he'd accepted my offer to work on the
new emacs20 package. I just wanted to let everyone know that I was
getting started. I'd like to get something out very soon, but the
holidays may interfere a little.
I had already offered to package up emacs20
Adam P. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
BTW, are .elc files arch-dependant or arch-indep? I've always
wondered about this.
They're architecture independent.
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From: Enrique Zanardi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Memory penalty. As busybox and dinstall are linked together in this
implementation, forking implies doubling the already big memory
requirements.
No, sorry, that's not right. Busybox is actually much more efficient
than you think.
The text of the
On Tue, Dec 16, 1997 at 11:35:23AM +0500, Adam P. Harris wrote:
...
For example, I have configured my ip-up script to start fetchmail
(in daemon mode) and grab articles for my local news spool unless
the file /etc/no_mail exists. Therefore, if I need to quickly dial
in, say to fetch a
Adam P. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Rob, you're talking about moving Xemacs arch-independant files from /usr/
lib/xemacs-XX.XX to /usr/share, right?
No, this is only for emacs20, James LewisMoss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
maintains xemacs.
I think this is a good idea. When we do this for Emacs
Just a warning to everyone running mirror scripts. Something happened to
va's FTP mirror last night and it has been erased. Please stop mirroring
va untill it can be restored!
The web site hosted at va still seems to be okay but mirroring of it's
components may have stopped.
I belive James is
Sorry... I really got very angry with that stuff.
Rover.
On Tue, 16 Dec 1997, I wrote:
: From: Roberto Lumbreras [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], debian-devel@lists.debian.org
: Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 12:40:12 +0100 (CET)
: Subject: SPAM to mailing lists! STOP
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Enrique Zanardi) wrote on 16.12.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Mon, 15 Dec 1997, Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote:
Uh? Why don't you just do...
int p[2];
pipe(p);
if(!fork())
{
dup2(p[1],2);
exec...
}
/* now you can read the output from the p[0] file
[You ([EMAIL PROTECTED])]
FWIW I've been using run-parts in ip-up and ip-down for some time now,
the scripts reconfigure stuff based on my ip address (2 ISPs) etc.
and everything works like a charm. I dunno about packages placing
scripts in ip-[up|down].d/ -- I'd rather put them in
[CC trimmed to debian-devel]
[Raul Miller]
Hmm.. seems like XEmacs should Provide: auctex. I can't see any
formal problem if auctex is installed as a separate package as
well... [Why someone would want to is beyond me.]
What if you have Xemacs *and* Emacs installed, and want to use auctex
Adam P. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What if you have Xemacs *and* Emacs installed, and want to use auctex
from both?
My suggestion would be that whichever package provides auctex, whether
it's xemacs or a separate package, would register the .el files
somehow so that when say emacs20 is
Adam P. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What if you have Xemacs *and* Emacs installed, and want to use auctex
from both?
Last time (a couple weeks ago) I tried selecting both xemacs and emacs,
I found that they conflicted.
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FWIW I've been using run-parts in ip-up and ip-down for some time now,
the scripts reconfigure stuff based on my ip address (2 ISPs) etc.
and everything works like a charm. I dunno about packages placing
scripts in ip-[up|down].d/ -- I'd rather put them in
I found arpd on the WNPP list as being orphaned, and I'd like to pick it
up as maintainer. I tried contacting dominik, but his debian.org address
is no longer current, so the WNPP maintainer suggested I post this here.
I've got an updated package (upstream source hasn't changed yet) with
fixed
Raul == Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Raul (1) a good mail client (e.g. a properly configured mutt)
Raul will give you the option of respecting reply-to, or ignoring
Raul it.
I use Gnus, and used `G p' in the *Groups* buffer to set the group
properties of this mail group,
On Dec 16, 1997, at 11:22, Ian Jackson wrote:
Tyson Dowd:
A couple of us discussed this (and other problems with the mailing
list), in the thread Duplicate messages on this list in debian-devel
about a week ago and eventually came to a standstill where most people
in the discussion
Raul == Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Raul Hmm.. seems like XEmacs should Provide: auctex. I can't see
Raul any formal problem if auctex is installed as a separate
Raul package as well... [Why someone would want to is beyond
Raul me.]
There's support for that in
Philip Hands [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Any better suggestions ?
run-parts should pass arguments which follow the directory.
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We do use qmail. If you would like to maintain our spam filter,
I will give you a login on the list server.
Thanks
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FWIW I've been using run-parts in ip-up and ip-down for some time now,
the scripts reconfigure stuff based on my ip address (2 ISPs) etc.
and everything works like a charm. I dunno about packages placing
scripts in ip-[up|down].d/ -- I'd rather put them in
/usr/doc/package/examples.
One
On Tue, Dec 16, 1997 at 12:01:28PM +0500, Adam P. Harris wrote:
[You (Sten Anderson)]
I am not a developer, but I have a few comments.
When I run dselect, I see some Emacs packages as seperate deb
packages, e.g. auctex. Now, I prefer XEmacs, which includes auctex,
but how could I know
On Thu, Dec 11, 1997 at 12:15:11PM -0500, Charles Briscoe-Smith wrote:
Jason Gunthorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10 Dec 1997, Charles Briscoe-Smith wrote:
...and so on. I'm not sure that you can ever have a scheme that will work
for -all- the wierd and wonderful proxies, caches and
A wishlist priority bug report was filed against pppload as it's menu entry
contained this as the command:
/usr/X11R6/bin/pppload -i 2 -p 10
The bug reporter (bugger :-) - Yann Dirson suggested a conffile would be
nice. So I made a new conffile /etc/pppload and changed command to this:
On Sun, Dec 14, 1997 at 03:34:34PM +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
Hello all!
I intend to package xscavenger, a lode runner like game (remember the good
old commodore 64 days?).
To be honest, I already did. I also contacted the author, and we work
together on a new upstream release.
xlaby traps your mouse cursor in one of the mazes generated by maze, you
must move around until you can escape - invisible walls is an option!
xnetload is like xload for network connections (similar to pppload and half
a dozen other utils, you takes your pick!)
Adrian
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, Dec 12, 1997 at 03:00:32PM -0500, Chris Fearnley wrote:
'Sven Rudolph wrote:'
G John Lapeyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I am planning to package agrep, a grep-like tool that allows to
We have it already. I think it comes with glimpse .
So it should be split into an
On 16 Dec 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We do use qmail.
It might be worth applying the MAPS RBL (Realtime Blackhole List) patches
to qmail available at http://www.qmail.org/rbl/
Given the volume of the debian lists, it would make sense for a DNS server
on the lists.debian.org LAN to be a
I wish only know if out there's a .deb for PGP 2.6.3i ... tnx
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Adam P. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Maybe I should submit this as a wishlist to the bug system, but I was
interested in getting some comments first.
I think that /etc/ppp/ip-up and /etc/ppp/ip-down should use
'run-parts' against, say, the directories /etc/ppp/ip-{up,down}.d/.
Rob Browning [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
For .el files like debian-changelog-mode.el that are generic enough
elisp that they should work with any emacs (19, 20, or x) we need a
shared directory or something. The only problem with this is that
when the files are byte-compiled there's a naming
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