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Hi Duncan!
You wrote:
Adding a sleep $[ $RANDOM % 60 ] is probably not a good idea as it will
hold up all the other cronjobs that should be run.
What about making sure the spamassassin cron.daily job is the last one
to run (by calling it ZZspamassassin or so)? It might even be worth it
to
On Tuesday 12 June 2007 19:57, Joey Hess wrote:
I had generally assumed that most programmers were reaonsable and used
powers of 2, but this thread is certianly changing my mind about *that*.
It's not that unreasonable. Humans generally count in base 10 - computers
count in base 2.
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* Lucas Nussbaum ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070612 23:17]:
On 12/06/07 at 22:23 +0200, Luk Claes wrote:
NO!
unstable is meant for packages that should be in the next stable release,
as such only packages that are in the maintainer's opinion ready to migrate
to testing should be uploaded to
On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 12:42:34AM +0100, Luis Matos wrote:
- Smooth passages are not always smooth (who had a working xorg after
the upgrade for 7, please raise their hands)
AFAIR apart from having to edit a few config files it was quite painless
(I've upgraded when Xorg was still in
On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 05:40:29PM -0300, Gustavo Franco wrote:
I disagree, that's what we've with experimental today mainly due to
the fact that there's just a few packages there. Consider everybody
uploading every package for unstable instead.
Experimental can and does contain packages that
On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 12:28:09AM -0400, Duncan Findlay wrote:
What can I do to satisfy those with and without anacron, and to avoid
hammering the sa-update servers at a specific time?
Idea:
- Generate a random minute number in the postinst
- Set up an entry in cron.d that runs every hour at
Ter, 2007-06-12 às 17:03 -0700, Steve Langasek escreveu:
On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 12:42:34AM +0100, Luis Matos wrote:
Ter, 2007-06-12 às 22:05 +0200, Frans Pop escreveu:
Personally I think the current system is fine.
just a note, as user:
The current system is fine but:
- priority
On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 11:28:52AM +0100, Luis Matos wrote:
kernel upgrades from 2.6.50 to 2.6.51 ... nvidia packages don't build in
time (they are not free, right?) ... kernel passes to testing ...
automatically, the nvidia-module-2.6.50 uses 2.6.50 and not *.51, so ...
after a reboot, my
On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 11:28:52AM +0100, Luis Matos wrote:
The current system is fine but:
- priority from unstable should less than testing or stable ( as i
think - not for sure - happens nowadays). On experimental has less
priority.
- There are no guaranties that testing is
Wouter Verhelst dijo [Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 06:59:49PM +0100]:
Honnestly, no, this is not true anymore nowadays. With a 500Gb sata
hard drive, you're able to have a full debian mirror (all archs). Such a
disk is around 100??? nowadays.
... but it will break down in three months with the
On 6/12/07, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 04:40:54PM -0300, Gustavo Franco wrote:
* What do you mean by switch unstable automatic nature to not
automatic
In a few words, move the 'NotAutomatic: yes' from experimental to
unstable and burn experimental.
So
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 15:52 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
shirish writes (Using standardized SI prefixes):
Please look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix .
Urgh, these things are ugly and an abomination. We should avoid them.
Ian.
I'd really like to hear some real
Gustavo Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 6/12/07, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 04:40:54PM -0300, Gustavo Franco wrote:
* What do you mean by switch unstable automatic nature to not
automatic
In a few words, move the 'NotAutomatic: yes' from experimental
On 13/06/07 at 11:19 +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
* Lucas Nussbaum ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070612 23:17]:
On 12/06/07 at 22:23 +0200, Luk Claes wrote:
NO!
unstable is meant for packages that should be in the next stable release,
as such only packages that are in the maintainer's
On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 08:02:53AM -0300, Gustavo Franco wrote:
On 6/12/07, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 04:40:54PM -0300, Gustavo Franco wrote:
* What do you mean by switch unstable automatic nature to not
automatic
In a few words, move the
Lucas Nussbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 13/06/07 at 11:19 +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
* Lucas Nussbaum ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070612 23:17]:
On 12/06/07 at 22:23 +0200, Luk Claes wrote:
unstable is meant for packages that should be in the next stable release,
as such only packages that are
One more opinion:
If you consider a number more relevant than its nearest power of 2,
then somebody else will consider every digit of that number relevant.
In that case, don't use rounding by SI/IEC prefixes at all.
For an example see Bug #420716.
The first number, where the difference between
* Gustavo Franco [Mon, 11 Jun 2007 18:20:17 -0300]:
* Switch unstable (release) for not automatic updates
This seems like the key of your proposal, and this is, in simple words
and AIUI, why it would not bring any improvements:
- Our main objective is to have as few bugs in testing as
On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 12:51 +0200, Christof Krüger wrote:
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 15:52 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
shirish writes (Using standardized SI prefixes):
Please look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix .
Urgh, these things are ugly and an abomination. We should
On 13/06/07, Christof Krüger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd really like to hear some real arguments against SI prefixes, besides
being ugly or funny to pronounce or just because it has always been
like that. Advantages of using SI prefixes has been mentioned in this
thread. Please tell me the
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On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 15:01 +0100, Alex Jones wrote:
1 TB is not rounded. It means precisely 1 × 10^12 bytes, no more and no
less.
No it doesn't.
The meaning of 1 TB depends on the context, and has always done so.
Scott
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Hallo,
On 6/13/07, Scott James Remnant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The meaning of 1 TB depends on the context, and has always done so.
Wrongly.
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On 6/13/07, Lucas Nussbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It would be easy to get the list of packages that haven't reached
testing in the n months (and have been in debian for more than n months).
Such a list exists:
http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/oldest.html
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On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 14:29 +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote:
Without the binary unit to consider, when we quote a drive as 1TB, we
know that it has *at least* 1,000,000,000,000 bytes available.
Depending on the drive, it may have anywhere between this and
1,099,511,627,776 bytes available.
On Wednesday 13 June 2007 15:29, Scott James Remnant wrote:
On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 12:51 +0200, Christof Krüger wrote:
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 15:52 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
[...] Please tell me the disadvantages so there can actually be a
constructive discussion.
User Confusion.
Most
On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 07:16:49PM +0200, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
On 6/10/07, Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's because they're not the latest files. The latest output form
the DDTP project is here:
http://ddtp.debian.net/debian/dists/sid/main/i18n/
There have been
On 13/06/07 at 15:19 +0100, Paul Wise wrote:
On 6/13/07, Lucas Nussbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It would be easy to get the list of packages that haven't reached
testing in the n months (and have been in debian for more than n months).
Such a list exists:
Lucas Nussbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 13/06/07 at 15:19 +0100, Paul Wise wrote:
On 6/13/07, Lucas Nussbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It would be easy to get the list of packages that haven't reached
testing in the n months (and have been in debian for more than n months).
Such a list
On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 12:51 +0200, Christof Krüger wrote:
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 15:52 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
shirish writes (Using standardized SI prefixes):
Please look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix .
Urgh, these things are ugly and an abomination. We should
I demand that Alex Jones may or may not have written...
And no-one uses floppy disks any more. Let's just bury them all and forget
about them. :D
I used one yesterday to do a BIOS upgrade. :-)
1 TB is not rounded. It means precisely 1 × 10^12 bytes, no more and no
less.
It means 1024^4
On Wednesday 13 June 2007 15:19, Bjørn Ingmar Berg wrote:
Let me start with a dumb example:
(OK, dumb example duly deleted)
Computers deal with numbers in base two. Humans deal with numbers in
base 10. When computers and humans interact (on a technical level)
humans must adapt to the
Hi!
What is a recommended practice of packaging programs, for which
distributed tarball contains binaries (generated from the sources)?
Specifically, newly released erlang distribution includes prebuilt
architecture-independent binary files.
Should we remove them from the original tarball, or
Sergei Golovan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is a recommended practice of packaging programs, for which
distributed tarball contains binaries (generated from the sources)?
Specifically, newly released erlang distribution includes prebuilt
architecture-independent binary files.
Should we
On 6/13/07, Andreas Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Should we remove them from the original tarball, or is it better to leave
them?
Unless there is a huge a gain in tarball size I would keep the
Tarball without binaries is about 11Mb, with binaries is about 37Mb.
pristine source. It is
Mike Hommey wrote:
On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 09:25:13PM +, Evgeni Golov
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 15:42:08 -0300 Paulo Marcondes wrote:
billion = 10^6 * 10^6 (IIRC, as used in Portugal - no jokes here!)
=10^12 :)
and Germany, France, former UdSSR, insert your
Let me start with a dumb example:
For a child or uninterested commoner that flying critter is simply a
birdie. For those in the know exactly the same entity is a Falco
peregrinus.
Even if simply calling it birdie or perhaps falcon would be
easier, more user friendly more understandable for
On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 14:08 -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote:
Mike Hommey wrote:
On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 09:25:13PM +, Evgeni Golov
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 15:42:08 -0300 Paulo Marcondes wrote:
billion = 10^6 * 10^6 (IIRC, as used in Portugal - no jokes here!)
Le mercredi 13 juin 2007 à 15:06 +0100, Scott James Remnant a écrit :
On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 15:01 +0100, Alex Jones wrote:
1 TB is not rounded. It means precisely 1 × 10^12 bytes, no more and no
less.
No it doesn't.
The meaning of 1 TB depends on the context, and has always done so.
On Wednesday 13 June 2007 06:28:09 Duncan Findlay wrote:
I imagine it would be relatively simple to have the postinst generate
a random time during the day for a cron script to run, but this
doesn't work with anacron -- many users would never get updates.
how would this break anacron?
What
* sean finney [Wed, 13 Jun 2007 20:46:42 +0200]:
On Wednesday 13 June 2007 06:28:09 Duncan Findlay wrote:
I imagine it would be relatively simple to have the postinst generate
a random time during the day for a cron script to run, but this
doesn't work with anacron -- many users would
Christof Krüger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'd really like to hear some real arguments against SI prefixes, besides
being ugly or funny to pronounce or just because it has always been
like that. Advantages of using SI prefixes has been mentioned in this
thread. Please tell me the disadvantages
Duncan Findlay wrote:
Adding a sleep $[ $RANDOM % 60 ] is probably not a good idea as it will
hold up all the other cronjobs that should be run.
How about using a sub shell, so that other cron jobs can continue?
(
sleep $[ $RANDOM % 60 ]
sa-update
)
(or something like this)
Cheers
On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 14:29 +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote:
[...]
And we still have many figures in both GB and GiB which are neither of
the two!
okay ... reading on ...
[...]
I see no problem with this 1TB quote being approximate. It's
rounded anyway.
So you don't care if it is
Le mardi 12 juin 2007 à 17:40 -0300, Gustavo Franco a écrit :
I disagree, that's what we've with experimental today mainly due to
the fact that there's just a few packages there. Consider everybody
uploading every package for unstable instead.
This has already been tried by Fedora and
On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 05:33:12PM -0600, Wesley J. Landaker wrote:
Even in the US all legitimate science and engineering is done in SI
units.
Suurre... That's why in 1999 the NASA Mars orbiter didn't crash
because one (NASA) team worked in metric units and the other (private
contractor) in
* Duncan Findlay:
I imagine it would be relatively simple to have the postinst generate
a random time during the day for a cron script to run, but this
doesn't work with anacron -- many users would never get updates.
debsecan creates a cron entry which is run hourly, at a random minute,
and
Le mercredi 13 juin 2007 à 15:19 +0200, Bjørn Ingmar Berg a écrit :
When computers and humans interact (on a technical level)
humans must adapt to the computer, because computers can not.
Anyone starting with such assumptions should never design any kind of
user interface.
Dealing with chunks
Qua, 2007-06-13 às 03:45 -0700, Steve Langasek escreveu:
On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 11:28:52AM +0100, Luis Matos wrote:
look ... i don't want guaranties ... you know what i mean ... want a
place where it says testing HAS security support, we focus on having it
stable. I don't want written
Qua, 2007-06-13 às 12:39 +0200, Gabor Gombas escreveu:
On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 11:28:52AM +0100, Luis Matos wrote:
kernel upgrades from 2.6.50 to 2.6.51 ... nvidia packages don't build in
time (they are not free, right?) ... kernel passes to testing ...
automatically, the
Am Sonntag, den 10.06.2007, 08:41 +0200 schrieb Luca Brivio:
Daniel Leidert wrote:
Gabedit is a graphical user interface to computational chemistry
packages, like:
- GAMESS-US
- Gaussian
- Molcas
- Molpro
- MPQC
- Q-Chem
Maybe the fact that MPQC is the only one which is
Luis Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
but why should I??? this goes against the testing is always *WORKING*
phrase. TESTING IS NOT ALWAYS WORKING.
Having to use module-assistant != not working.
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On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 10:06:20PM +0400, Sergei Golovan wrote:
pristine source. It is rather nice to be able take debian's tar.gz and
verify with md5sum or a detached gpg sig that upstream's tarball is
The original tarball contains non-free RFCs, so it is recreated anyway.
On a general note
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Qua, 2007-06-13 às 14:16 -0700, Russ Allbery escreveu:
Luis Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
but why should I??? this goes against the testing is always *WORKING*
phrase. TESTING IS NOT ALWAYS WORKING.
Having to use module-assistant != not working.
having a working system *with* only
As I see it there are two ways of resolving the difference between KiB
and KB.
* Use Rosetta to update the text and fix the output so that it now
reads KiB. This would be relatively simple to do, but not actually
helpful longer term.
* Fix the source code that calculates KB by
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007, Alex Jones wrote:
On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 14:29 +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote:
Without the binary unit to consider, when we quote a drive as 1TB, we
know that it has *at least* 1,000,000,000,000 bytes available.
Depending on the drive, it may have anywhere between this and
Luis Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
having a working system *with* only debian *oficial* packages and then
after an upgrade that system stops working properly, i call it a
regression ...
If you're using non-free drivers, the first part of your sentence above
doesn't apply.
Usually, however,
On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 03:00:15PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Many non-free drivers (and some free drivers, for that matter) are never
automatically built at the moment, although with the new mechanism for
building modules in main, hopefully that number will drop over time for
the free ones.
Luis Matos wrote:
Qua, 2007-06-13 às 14:16 -0700, Russ Allbery escreveu:
Luis Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
but why should I??? this goes against the testing is always *WORKING*
phrase. TESTING IS NOT ALWAYS WORKING.
Having to use module-assistant != not working.
having a working
Steinar H Gunderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 03:00:15PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Many non-free drivers (and some free drivers, for that matter) are
never automatically built at the moment, although with the new
mechanism for building modules in main, hopefully that
Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Steinar H Gunderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 03:00:15PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Many non-free drivers (and some free drivers, for that matter) are
never automatically built at the moment, although with the new
mechanism for
On Wednesday 13 June 2007 14:03:51 Lionel Elie Mamane wrote:
On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 05:33:12PM -0600, Wesley J. Landaker wrote:
Even in the US all legitimate science and engineering is done in SI
units.
Suurre... That's why in 1999 the NASA Mars orbiter didn't crash
because one (NASA)
Qua, 2007-06-13 às 15:00 -0700, Russ Allbery escreveu:
Luis Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
having a working system *with* only debian *oficial* packages and then
after an upgrade that system stops working properly, i call it a
regression ...
If you're using non-free drivers, the first
* Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED], [2007-06-11 19:56 -0400]:
Testing also needs periodic snapshots and guaranteed upgradability to
be useable by more users, amoung other points I discuss at
http://kitenet.net/~joey/code/debian/cut/
Snapshots should be made available regularly, so that users who
Qua, 2007-06-13 às 18:09 -0400, Felipe Sateler escreveu:
Luis Matos wrote:
Qua, 2007-06-13 às 14:16 -0700, Russ Allbery escreveu:
Luis Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
but why should I??? this goes against the testing is always *WORKING*
phrase. TESTING IS NOT ALWAYS WORKING.
Qui, 2007-06-14 às 01:04 +0200, Emanuele Rocca escreveu:
* Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED], [2007-06-11 19:56 -0400]:
Testing also needs periodic snapshots and guaranteed upgradability to
be useable by more users, amoung other points I discuss at
http://kitenet.net/~joey/code/debian/cut/
Luis Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Qua, 2007-06-13 às 15:00 -0700, Russ Allbery escreveu:
My recommendation is to always use module-assistant for all non-free
drivers that you want to use. That way, if there is a build in
non-free, you can be pleasantly surprised, but your normal method
On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 11:53:24AM +0200, Gabor Gombas wrote:
On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 12:42:34AM +0100, Luis Matos wrote:
- Smooth passages are not always smooth (who had a working xorg after
the upgrade for 7, please raise their hands)
AFAIR apart from having to edit a few config files
David Nusinow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
By the time it hit testing it worked pretty well for most people. We
broke a few things, but it was nice for just about everyone. Everyone
except those people using proprietary drivers, but they know they've
already dug their own grave there. If Luis
Qua, 2007-06-13 às 16:18 -0700, Russ Allbery escreveu:
For non-free, this is inevitable without significant changes to the
way
that Debian works that I don't believe will happen. Debian has
provided a
different solution in the form of module-assistant that in my
experience
works great. I
Qua, 2007-06-13 às 19:20 -0400, David Nusinow escreveu:
By the time it hit testing it worked pretty well for most people. We
broke
a few things, but it was nice for just about everyone. Everyone except
those people using proprietary drivers, but they know they've already
dug
their own grave
Ivan Jager [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007, Alex Jones wrote:
1 TB is not rounded. It means precisely 1 × 10^12 bytes, no more
and no less. If they want to actually put 1.024 TB on the disk
then they can say 1 TB (approx.) like any other industry
(detergent, bacon, etc.).
Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Christof Krüger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'd really like to hear some real arguments against SI prefixes,
besides being ugly or funny to pronounce or just because it has
always been like that. Advantages of using SI prefixes has been
mentioned in
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Duncan == Duncan Findlay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Duncan What can I do to satisfy those with and without anacron,
Duncan and to avoid hammering the sa-update servers at a specific
Duncan time?
Look at the clamav-freshclam package.
I suspect the maintainers have already encountered
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On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 05:32:01PM +0100, Luis Matos wrote:
Um, no. That does not happen automatically. In rare cases it happens
because the release team has overridden the installability check for a
package, because maintainers have not coordinated their transitions in
unstable
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I am definitely a GUI person (aptitude is the last non-GUI program
with a GUI available that I still use), but I still prefer aptitude to
any other. I was under the impression that most others did too, is it
not the recommended Debian way?.
Yes (but that's a reported bug, #418455)
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Hello,
libgsasl and libntlm are maintained by Yvan Bassuel and were uploaded by
Anibal Salazar. I am CC'ing them.
Two weeks ago I've sent an email no Yvan, asking if he was still
interested in maintaining those packages. Both have newer upstream
versions. There is a bug with a patch for
On 6/14/07, Steinar H. Gunderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 10:06:20PM +0400, Sergei Golovan wrote:
pristine source. It is rather nice to be able take debian's tar.gz and
verify with md5sum or a detached gpg sig that upstream's tarball is
The original tarball contains
On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 18:20:17 -0300, Gustavo Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
1) The 'remove experimental' proposal
* Warn developers and contributors[0]
* Remove experimental
* Switch unstable (release) for not automatic updates
This is one of the worst proposals I have seen.
On Sat, 9 Jun 2007 11:24:08 -0500, Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
On 09-Jun-07, 04:30 (CDT), Petter Reinholdtsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My point is that it is useful to know what major release of Debian a
machine is using,
My point is the only reliable way to determine that is
Eduard Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What is not really understandable is why this stupid naming has been
kept in Windows XP.
Because nobody actually cares except control-freak types, and they're
certainly not who windows is targetting!
-Miles
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On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 07:41:27PM +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 14:08 -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote:
Mike Hommey wrote:
On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 09:25:13PM +, Evgeni Golov
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On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 15:42:08 -0300 Paulo Marcondes wrote:
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