Re: should Debian add itself to https://python3statement.org ?

2019-09-14 Thread Drew Parsons
On 2019-09-12 22:46, Drew Parsons wrote: https://python3statement.org/ is a site documenting the projects which are supporting the policy of dropping Python2 to keep Python3 only. The site is designed for python packages specifically, to have only Python3 supported by end of 2020. But it seems

Re: Git Packaging Round 2: SHOULD Not or MUSt NOT Github

2019-09-14 Thread Pirate Praveen
On 2019, സെപ്റ്റംബർ 15 12:57:08 AM IST, Sean Whitton wrote: >Hello Pirate, > >On Sun 15 Sep 2019 at 12:27AM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: > >> That is not going to happen, instead we need to adapt ourselves to >> this fast paced development and fasttrack.debian.net is a step in >that >> directi

Re: Mozilla Firefox DoH to CloudFlare by default (for US users)?

2019-09-14 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 5:48 AM Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > On 9/13/19 7:05 AM, Simon Richter wrote: > > > > Mandatory Encrypted SNI with no fallback option -- everything else can be > > circumvented easily. > > > > This is a game that we should not play, really. It raises the cost of > > running a

Re: Git Packaging Round 2: SHOULD Not or MUSt NOT Github

2019-09-14 Thread Alexis Murzeau
On September 15, 2019 1:20:38 AM GMT+02:00, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> Besides this, there's something else I don't understand. How much >effort >> is it to use a free software based platform? It's not as if Github >was >> so much nicer than Gitlab (at least not anymore). What is it that >peop

Bug#820036: marked as done (Boot and installation support for Secure Boot systems)

2019-09-14 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Sat, 14 Sep 2019 18:12:31 +0100 with message-id <626fecb430ba306dc1c1e4671d6cb3e1b7f0037c.ca...@decadent.org.uk> and subject line Re: Boot and installation support for Secure Boot systems has caused the Debian Bug report #820036, regarding Boot and installation support for Secure

Re: Git Packaging Round 2: When to Salsa

2019-09-14 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On 9/12/19 8:57 AM, Ansgar wrote: I don't see much value in this requirement (besides additional work). One should look at the repository anyway whan planning to do changes (to match the existing style used); one would naturally see how files are organized. We already had tons of packages shippi

Processed: unblock 820036 with 821088

2019-09-14 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > unblock 820036 with 821088 Bug #820036 [general] Boot and installation support for Secure Boot systems 820036 was blocked by: 821307 823003 820052 821084 821054 820129 820041 820038 821055 821088 820008 820010 820036 was not blocking any bugs. Re

Re: Git Packaging Round 2: SHOULD Not or MUSt NOT Github

2019-09-14 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 9/14/19 9:30 PM, Pirate Praveen wrote: > We have packaged many core build tools like webpack, rollup, gulp, grunt etc > which makes it easier to build many JavaScript libraries from source Thanks a lot for that very useful work! Thomas

Re: Git Packaging Round 2: SHOULD Not or MUSt NOT Github

2019-09-14 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, September 14, 2019 7:16:26 PM EDT Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 9/15/19 12:06 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Saturday, September 14, 2019 6:01:24 PM EDT Thomas Goirand wrote: > >> On 9/14/19 6:59 AM, Balasankar "Balu" C wrote: > >>> So will the GR be > >>> "You must not do any sort of

Re: Git Packaging Round 2: SHOULD Not or MUSt NOT Github

2019-09-14 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 9/15/19 12:06 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Saturday, September 14, 2019 6:01:24 PM EDT Thomas Goirand wrote: >> On 9/14/19 6:59 AM, Balasankar "Balu" C wrote: >>> So will the GR be >>> "You must not do any sort of contribution to Debian using non-free >>> software/hardware" >>> >>> or >>> >>>

Re: tag2upload (git-debpush) service architecture - draft

2019-09-14 Thread Guillem Jover
On Thu, 2019-08-01 at 16:22:19 +0100, Sean Whitton wrote: > On Thu 01 Aug 2019 at 02:35PM +02, Guillem Jover wrote: > > This argument seems very counter-intuitive. This assumes a > > Debian-archive-centric world-view, where most of the heavy lifting is > > delegated to some external service. But th

Re: Git Packaging Round 2: When to Salsa

2019-09-14 Thread Guillem Jover
On Sun, 2019-09-15 at 00:37:00 +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: > On 2019, സെപ്റ്റംബർ 15 12:35:18 AM IST, Holger Levsen > wrote: > > I guess because according to https://trends.debian.net/#vcs-hosting > > there's *still*, today, almost 1 source packages in unstable which > > declare they are main

Re: Git Packaging Round 2: SHOULD Not or MUSt NOT Github

2019-09-14 Thread Alf Gaida
On 15.09.19 00:05, Russ Allbery wrote: > We have more agreement here, although there are a lot of details hidden in > what "forcing" really means. But there's a huge space between "don't > force other people to use non-free software to contribute to Debian" and > "forbid using non-free software

Re: Git Packaging Round 2: SHOULD Not or MUSt NOT Github

2019-09-14 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, September 14, 2019 6:01:24 PM EDT Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 9/14/19 6:59 AM, Balasankar "Balu" C wrote: > > But it shouldn't matter to the project that I do my packaging work in > > GitLab.com or GitHub.com because as far as Debian is concerned, as long > > as others can contribute wi

Re: Git Packaging Round 2: SHOULD Not or MUSt NOT Github

2019-09-14 Thread Russ Allbery
Thomas Goirand writes: > On 9/14/19 1:03 AM, Russ Allbery wrote: >> Thomas Goirand writes: >>> Sorry, WHAAAT ? That's shocking to read this from the DPL. Are you >>> sure you didn't do a mistake in this sentence? >>> There's absolutely no problem within the Debian project to forbid >>> using n

Re: Git Packaging Round 2: When to Salsa

2019-09-14 Thread Guillem Jover
On Sat, 2019-09-14 at 13:07:09 +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > On Fri, 13 Sep 2019 13:05:20 -0700, Sean Whitton wrote: > > On Thu 12 Sep 2019 at 09:35PM +02, Marc Haber wrote: > > > How about documenting that branches prefixed with "wip" can be force > > > pushed any time and people pulling from those b

Re: Git Packaging Round 2: SHOULD Not or MUSt NOT Github

2019-09-14 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 9/14/19 6:59 AM, Balasankar "Balu" C wrote: > But it shouldn't matter to the project that I do my packaging work in > GitLab.com or GitHub.com because as far as Debian is concerned, as long > as others can contribute without having an account in that service - I > should not be forbidden using t

Re: Git Packaging Round 2: SHOULD Not or MUSt NOT Github

2019-09-14 Thread Alf Gaida
Thomas Goirand wrote: > As long as you push to Github *for yourself* (ie: not in order to > share the repository with other people form the Debian community), > that's fine. But forcing it to others is not acceptable. > > Thomas Goirand (zigo) Thomas - what you want to achive? Right now i'm affr

Re: Mozilla Firefox DoH to CloudFlare by default (for US users)?

2019-09-14 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On 9/13/19 7:05 AM, Simon Richter wrote: Mandatory Encrypted SNI with no fallback option -- everything else can be circumvented easily. This is a game that we should not play, really. It raises the cost of running a service on the Internet so only big players can afford to do so. Does it? I h

Re: Git Packaging Round 2: SHOULD Not or MUSt NOT Github

2019-09-14 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 9/14/19 1:03 AM, Russ Allbery wrote: > Thomas Goirand writes: > >> Sorry, WHAAAT ? That's shocking to read this from the DPL. >> Are you sure you didn't do a mistake in this sentence? > >> There's absolutely no problem within the Debian project to forbid using >> non-free software. > > I use

Re: Git Packaging Round 2: SHOULD Not or MUSt NOT Github

2019-09-14 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 01:02:03PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 12:16:43PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > > And, despite a massive amount of efforts from you and others, packaged > > gitlab is not fit for Salsa use. It hasn't also ever been in a stable > > release of Debian

Re: Git Packaging Round 2: SHOULD Not or MUSt NOT Github

2019-09-14 Thread Pirate Praveen
On 2019, സെപ്റ്റംബർ 14 3:46:43 PM IST, Adam Borowski wrote: >On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 09:37:00AM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: >> I will also support such a GR. I started packaging gitlab so we >don't >> have to compromise on ease of use compared to github. > >And, despite a massive amount of e

Re: Git Packaging Round 2: SHOULD Not or MUSt NOT Github

2019-09-14 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello Pirate, On Sun 15 Sep 2019 at 12:27AM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: > That is not going to happen, instead we need to adapt ourselves to > this fast paced development and fasttrack.debian.net is a step in that > direction. It's not just a matter of adapting workflows -- without real stable

dgit violating best practices? (Re: Git Packaging Round 2: When to Salsa)

2019-09-14 Thread Holger Levsen
On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 02:57:09PM +0200, Ansgar wrote: > (Using dgit to upload packages is sadly incompatible with best > practices around packaging.) I'm genuinly curious: why do you say so? Which practices does it violate? -- cheers, Holger --

Re: Git Packaging Round 2: When to Salsa

2019-09-14 Thread Pirate Praveen
On 2019, സെപ്റ്റംബർ 15 12:35:18 AM IST, Holger Levsen wrote: >On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 11:30:51AM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: >> On 2019, സെപ്റ്റംബർ 13 1:06:13 AM IST, Marc Haber > wrote: >> >alioth.debian.org, anyone? That one went away pretty fast. >> I wonder why people keep repeating this.

Re: Git Packaging Round 2: When to Salsa

2019-09-14 Thread Holger Levsen
On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 11:30:51AM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: > On 2019, സെപ്റ്റംബർ 13 1:06:13 AM IST, Marc Haber > wrote: > >alioth.debian.org, anyone? That one went away pretty fast. > I wonder why people keep repeating this. I guess because according to https://trends.debian.net/#vcs-hosti

Re: Git Packaging Round 2: SHOULD Not or MUSt NOT Github

2019-09-14 Thread Pirate Praveen
On 2019, സെപ്റ്റംബർ 14 3:46:43 PM IST, Adam Borowski wrote: >On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 09:37:00AM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: >> I will also support such a GR. I started packaging gitlab so we >don't >> have to compromise on ease of use compared to github. > >And, despite a massive amount of e

Re: Git Packaging Round 2: When to Salsa

2019-09-14 Thread Inaki Malerba
On 13/9/19 15:20, Bastian Blank wrote: > For this I need to use my veto as Salsa admin. With the CI people we > have to work through too much problems first. If there are _too much problems_ I think you should, at least, communicate with us. Besides two issues[0][1] reported some time ago -which

Re: Git Packaging Round 2: When to Salsa

2019-09-14 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Sat 14 Sep 2019 at 01:07PM +02, Marc Haber wrote: > On Fri, 13 Sep 2019 13:05:20 -0700, Sean Whitton > wrote: >>On Thu 12 Sep 2019 at 09:35PM +02, Marc Haber wrote: >>> How about documenting that branches prefixed with "wip" can be force >>> pushed any time and people pulling from thos

Re: Mozilla Firefox DoH to CloudFlare by default (for US users)?

2019-09-14 Thread Amir H. Firouzian
Becuase the best privacy solution would be to embed DNS resolver into mozilla and they query root servers (which manage by ICANN) to find IPs of TLDs server! I mean the "users’ privacy" is a opaque general definition, rather there are the spectrum of techniques which protect us against mass surveil

Re: Git Packaging Round 2: SHOULD Not or MUSt NOT Github

2019-09-14 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2019-09-14 10:13:09 +0200 (+0200), Bastian Blank wrote: > On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 10:29:32AM +0530, Balasankar "Balu" C wrote: > > > What exactly do you propose here? The Salsa admins look like > > > not accepting more contributors, neither seem open to > > > suggestions. They just do "their way

Re: Git Packaging Round 2: SHOULD Not or MUSt NOT Github

2019-09-14 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 12:16:43PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 09:37:00AM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: > > I will also support such a GR. I started packaging gitlab so we don't > > have to compromise on ease of use compared to github. > > And, despite a massive amount of

Re: Git Packaging Round 2: When to Salsa

2019-09-14 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 13 Sep 2019 13:05:20 -0700, Sean Whitton wrote: >On Thu 12 Sep 2019 at 09:35PM +02, Marc Haber wrote: >> How about documenting that branches prefixed with "wip" can be force >> pushed any time and people pulling from those branches should be >> expected to handle that? > >This would be use

Re: Git Packaging Round 2: SHOULD Not or MUSt NOT Github

2019-09-14 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 09:37:00AM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: > I will also support such a GR. I started packaging gitlab so we don't > have to compromise on ease of use compared to github. And, despite a massive amount of efforts from you and others, packaged gitlab is not fit for Salsa use.

Bug#940225: ITP: gotestsum -- `go test` runner with output optimized for humans, JUnit XML for CI integration, and a summary of the test run results.

2019-09-14 Thread Arnaud Rebillout
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Arnaud Rebillout * Package name: gotestsum Version : 0.3.5-1 Upstream Author : https://github.com/gotestyourself/gotestsum/issues/65 * URL : https://github.com/gotestyourself/gotestsum * License : Apache-2.0 Programming

Re: Git Packaging Round 2: SHOULD Not or MUSt NOT Github

2019-09-14 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 10:29:32AM +0530, Balasankar "Balu" C wrote: > > What exactly do you propose here? The Salsa admins look like not > > accepting more contributors, neither seem open to suggestions. They just > > do "their way". I've countless times wrote to both them and in public > > that I