On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 11:54:20AM +0300, Jani wrote:
>
> > This gpg key belongs to Jani Monoses (Cc'ed).
> >
> > Perhaps he can tell what happened (looks like an accidental upload to
> > Debian instead of Ubuntu).
>
> Indeed that's the case, sorry all
OK, no worries. But, you obviously have
On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 10:17:38AM -0700, Stephen Birch wrote:
> And a very good looking spoon indeed. I like Ubuntu and am switching
> my customer base over to it from Debian.
I may do that too, but its architecture support is abysmal compared to
Debian, so I have no choice in the matter at this
On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 04:49:20AM +0200, mag wrote:
> 2005-05-31, k keltezéssel 16.24-kor John Hasler ezt írta:
> Forks in OSS do have drawbacks, this is why they are generally frowned
> upon. Of course there are cases when advantages greater than drawbacks,
> esp. when the latter are minimized, e
On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 08:21:01PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> mag writes:
> > Forks in OSS do have drawbacks, this is why they are generally frowned
> > upon.
>
> I agree that they may have drawbacks, but I don't believe that they can
> cause the sort of damage that the Unix wars caused.
Not onl
On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 07:47:19PM -0700, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 09:00:33PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
>
> > example, Python 2.4 is in sid, and I don't mind making my packages use
> > it now. I'd appreciate any and all diffs from ubuntu folks.
On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 06:24:52AM -0700, Stephen Birch wrote:
> Okay ... I missed the development of arch. Boy ... its difficult to
> keep up with everything going on. How did the arch project improve on
> Subversion?
The main cool thing about Arch is that branching can be done
cross-repository
On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 05:13:49PM +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-06-01 at 00:06 -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
>
> > BTW, the baz folks could get some very neat ideas from darcs. The
> > "offline mode comes free" way of working is very nice, and the
> >
On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 11:47:46AM -0700, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> Ubuntu developers already participate in team maintenance in Debian, and
> this works well, but in the traditional Debian maintainer model, there are
> just too many obstacles for this kind of direct participation.
I think it is hig
On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 06:14:18PM -0700, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 03:08:51PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
>
> > I think it is high time we revisit the traditional Debian maintainer
> > model. We have been aware of its weaknesses for years, and are most
On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 10:40:04PM -0700, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> Debian does, in fact, treat most of its upstreams precisely this way.
> Debian publishes a large portion of its changes primarily in the form of
> monolithic diffs relative to upstream source. The last time I saw figures,
> the usag
On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 01:59:18AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Tue, 31 May 2005 19:47:19 -0700, Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> Obviously, I have no control over how derived distributions
> conduct their business, or where they allocate resources. But I would
> not
On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 12:32:14AM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> * Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-06-03 08:58]:
> I, as well as others, have pointed out to Canonical on several
> occasions that their patch policy is less than optimal. While some
> personally agree with me, it's their
On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 08:57:00AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> | Does http://bugs.debian.org/nn not work for you?
>
> My experience is patch(1) is generally not happy about applying
> patches which are just inlined in the web page due to changes in
> white-space.
bugs.d.o has offered a
Package: wnpp
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* Package name: washngo
Version : 2.3.1
Upstream Author : Peter Thiemann
* URL :
http://www.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/~thiemann/haskell/WASH/
* License : 3-clause BSD
Descr
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 10:40:47AM -0400, Benj. Mako Hill wrote:
>
> > That sounds very nice indeed. If that pans out, and you also fix the UI
> > issues (by which I mean I have to type approximately three times as many
> > characters to accomplish the same thing that I do in darcs), that would
>
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 12:08:23PM -0700, Blars Blarson wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >[Josselin Mouette]
> >> However that won't help the architecture make it to a Vancouver-like
> >> release.
> >
> >I suspect you have misunderstood the content and intention o
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 07:05:17AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
> By reading the Debconf5 participant list, I bet that much of these
> will lead to heavy discussions at Debconf and you will have a lot of
> opportunities to debate them. Just remind that one just cannot be as
> rude in real life a
On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 08:38:58PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > When did
> > this Project stop being militant ?
> This projects /started/ being militant, it happened about two years ago.
Two?
Try ten.
Actually, we're not all *that* militant. we still have non-free.
But that was a flamewar fo
On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 06:31:25PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Glenn Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> It's a novelty joke program. If that's a "great utility" in your view,
> >> then I find
On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 05:44:38PM +0100, Steve Kemp wrote:
> > If Debian had slightly less of a culture of
> > "Keep your hands off my package", I'd do it here instead.
>
> That seems understandable. I'm keen on teams, but even more keen
> on a less "ownery" stance by package owners.
I agre
On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 07:22:11PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Jul 28, Gustavo Franco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Debian stopped innovating?
> Yes. This should be obvious to people who joined the project before 2000.
I'm one, and it's not obvious to me.
Some things that have been done s
On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 10:57:05AM -0600, Katrina Jackson wrote:
> I am sorry I am a Troll. I guess I was too harsh. But I guess these are my
> main resons for writing.
>
> A.) Ubuntu seems to have such better Hardware support I wonder if people
> are only packaging, not working on Hardware sup
On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 02:30:27PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> John Goerzen wrote:
> > Think about it -- if you manage dozens, hundreds, or thousands of Debian
> > machines -- few of which even have a monitor -- how useful is this?
> >
> > Debian is all about not making
On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 08:31:37PM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote:
> Right, bzr is great when you have a designed person to integrate
> contributor's changes after review.
>
> But if you have a set of equal developers, bzr can be also used in a
> very similar way to Subversion, where all commits go to
On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 09:06:19PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> This feature is in development for bzr, called the smart server.
> Just for completeness.
>
> John, are you actually using the workflow you describe for
> maintenance of Debian packages? Single or team maintenance? Could
> you elab
On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 05:36:07PM -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote:
> > Darcs has a nice way of pushing patches via e-mail, with GPG signatures
> > even. These can be processed in an automated way on the server,
> > verified against, for instance, the Debian keyring, and then applied to
> > the repos
On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 06:12:34PM -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote:
> > diff also doesn't preserve permissions, so some are using debian/rules
> > anyway.
>
> Indeed but that can make thing broke due the wrong permission of
> upstream files, iff you use darcs to maintain those fixes mixed with
> chan
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 09:41:02AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> #include
> * John Goerzen [Tue, Aug 01 2006, 04:47:13PM]:
>
> > I do use darcs to track patches against upstream. I really don't
> > understand the whole cdbs/dpatch/whatever thing -- why use a hack to
&g
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 10:17:57AM +0200, Christoph Haas wrote:
> On Tuesday 01 August 2006 23:47, John Goerzen wrote:
> > I do use darcs to track patches against upstream. I really don't
> > understand the whole cdbs/dpatch/whatever thing -- why use a hack to
> > ma
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 11:23:31AM +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 16:47 -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
> > I do use darcs to track patches against upstream. I really don't
> > understand the whole cdbs/dpatch/whatever thing -- why use a hack to
> > ma
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 05:20:26PM +0300, George Danchev wrote:
> > Actually, I disagree with that. I always hate having to work with a
> > package that uses a patch management system, because then I have to
> > learn the system before I can do any work on the package. And there are
> > several s
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 06:01:27PM +0300, George Danchev wrote:
> > > How is that not true if one knows a given patch system and does know
> > > about your VCS and needs to work on one of your packages. Do they have
> >
> > They just apt-get source, hack away, and send me a diff.
>
> Also true for
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 08:47:01PM +0300, George Danchev wrote:
> > to learn how we deal with this all.
>
> This is fine, but (again) you forget about your 'apt-get source' users, which
NO. They need not care. They can just hack and send me diffs. My
debian/changelog will already document wha
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 09:09:12PM +0300, George Danchev wrote:
> On Wednesday 02 August 2006 21:01, John Goerzen wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 08:47:01PM +0300, George Danchev wrote:
> > > > to learn how we deal with this all.
>
> Ok, third time. Please do not do
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 08:36:18PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> > NO. They need not care. They can just hack and send me diffs. My
> > debian/changelog will already document what has been going on anyway.
>
> Heh. So they need two copies, one where they do modifications, then diff
> those and s
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 08:31:29PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> > Really, I think that getting patches in darcs from people that are using
> > "darcs send" is not only easier for me as a maintainer, but also easier
>
> Much easier as storing the mail attachment under debian/patches? I doubt.
Yes,
On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 08:37:10AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> #include
> * John Goerzen [Wed, Aug 02 2006, 04:12:50PM]:
>
> > Because everyone knows how to use cp and diff, and because I get diffs
> > sent to the BTS all the time. It works. And it has nothing to do with
On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 08:09:44AM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote:
> Well if someone has to work on a "which of the applied patch broken
> the package is such a way" kinda issue, he will have to, in order to
> have access to the patches.
No, they are all in the diff.gz, and that's easy enough to find.
On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 03:13:30PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
> Otavio Salvador <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Alexander Sack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >> Anyway, as a side note on this thread: *darcs is just far t
> >> slow* for decent maintenance of large pieces of software. I trie
On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 09:15:05AM +0300, George Danchev wrote:
> The very same "debian patch manager" clearly identifies patches you've
> produced against a certain upstream version and if I want to see the text of
> your diffs altering src/file.c|h|whatever, not just a mere changelog entry, I
On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 10:24:10PM +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
> > You know, I use a mail program. Replying to people is in my fingers as
> > "hitting a button". A very specific button, especially for that purpose.
> > I expect my MUA to Do The Right Thing (TM). It usually does, except on
> > the
On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 01:27:15AM +0300, George Danchev wrote:
> On Friday 04 August 2006 00:37, John Goerzen wrote:
> > > If your mailer makes you automatically go shouting on the push of a
> > > button, it may be time to download the source and get some serious
> >
On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 08:29:13PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote:
>
> The first feature is useful for those packages which are critical, and
> which really want a reboot after upgrade, such as kernel, perhaps libc,
> and any library or package fixing security problems. These simply need
> to
On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 09:45:02PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote:
> Em Sat, 12 Aug 2006 19:26:51 -0500
> John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu:
>
> > To say that any library fixing security problems will require a reboot
> > is outrageous. It is quite possi
On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 05:35:52PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Am 2006-07-03 09:04:39, schrieb Lars Wirzenius:
> > su, 2006-07-02 kello 18:17 -0400, Jason Spiro kirjoitti:
> > > * Package name: openwatcom
> > > Description : C/C++ compiler and IDE that produce efficient,
> > > porta
On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 12:05:53PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Am 2006-07-28 12:43:55, schrieb John Goerzen:
>
> > I like the fact that a base Debian install is only 100MB. Most of
> > Debian's competitors are 10 times that.
>
> Ist now over 200 MByte...
No.
On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 06:16:49PM +0200, Bastian Venthur wrote:
> > which is definitifly a thing of the Kernel (Linux) which depend
> > on the support of the hardware manufacturer. If you want to
> > get better hardware support, please contact the manufacturer.
>
> Because, hardware support seem
On Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 11:42:56PM -0400, Theodore Tso wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 11:56:21AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
> > This sort of vague anecdotal "evidence" has been repeated over and over.
> > It may be true, but as far as I know, nobody has yet to come
On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 01:19:47PM -0600, Hubert Chan wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 15:26:12 + (UTC), "Sam Morris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> said:
> > On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 16:02:04 +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
> >> Am Samstag 26 August 2006 15:15 schrieb Theodore Tso:
> >>> No support for: (The * a
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 05:09:54PM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote:
> ciol wrote:
> > The problem is that Debian doesn't speak a lot about nice features like
> > volatile and backports, for instance in the official web site, where it's
> > difficult to see the links.
>
> The... err... issue is that thes
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 08:17:09PM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote:
One other thing here -- and I would argue perhaps even more important --
is hard disk access. I've spent quite some time tuning that, and with
traditional services (cron, MTAs, syslog, etc.) it's a bit
time-consuming but possible.
I h
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 10:17:00PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Friday 08 September 2006 19:36, John Goerzen wrote:
> > I have no idea what Gnome, KDE, etc. are doing to my disk -- all I know
> > is that they seem to have business with it all the time, and
On Sat, Sep 09, 2006 at 01:52:12PM +1200, Martin Langhoff wrote:
> On 9/9/06, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I have been using noatime for quite awhile now. mount(8) does not
> >mention nodiratime anywhere, and I have never used it.
>
> Same here. But go
On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 03:14:02PM +0200, Luca Capello wrote:
> After having read zack's blog entry [2] about the new XS-X-VCS-xxx
> field for debian/control files, I was adding it to my packages [3]
> (all related to Common Lisp).
This is an *excellent* idea, but a terrible way of introducing it.
On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 07:13:54PM +0200, Luca Capello wrote:
> >
> > It could be useful, I think. How would one push to it -- over ssh
> > or with darcs send?
>
> ATM, for what is the CL-Debian packages I'm rsyncing my local
> repositories to the Alioth ones, because there's only one maintainer,
On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 06:39:35PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 11:17:56AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
> > This is an *excellent* idea, but a terrible way of introducing it. Why
> > was it posted only on a blog, and not to -- at least -- debian-deve
On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 09:02:31PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> My doubt was on the line: "who am I to suggest a non X- field to be
> added to Sources files"? If no one has objections on the field
> XS-Vcs-XXX-Url I will add support for it and document its usage (without
> the "X-".
>
> So,
On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 09:43:37PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 02:21:22PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
> > I would also like to raise a question: does it make any sense to be able
> > to list two URLs, one for the Debian branch and one for the upst
On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 01:04:59AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> I'm a casual user of distributed VCS (used sparingly hg and baz here),
> but I don't see how this is related to the field as we are intending it.
> But maybe it's just because I'm not that familiar with them, let me know
> if thi
Several people have mentioned this thread on planet, but I think it
merits mention here:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/09/msg01922.html
There are a lot of people on -user that are saying some very nice
things about Debian and its developers.
For any of you that are reading this: thank
On Sat, Oct 07, 2006 at 01:34:35PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> I'm thinking of this slightly obscure service called email. It might
> possibly be affected by such brain damage. Why can't the bug submitter
> make to with +, ., and other such characters?
According to my very brief examinati
On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 12:10:51AM +0200, Mario Iseli wrote:
> Hello,
>
> as described in
> http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/virtual-package-names-list.txt
> I announce here my idea of the virtual package ircd. When I count
> correctly are at the moment 7 different IRC-daemons in Debian
Hello,
This has been bugging me for some time now, and I'd like to see if we
can improve the situation.
The main problem is that it's not clear how all this media
autodection/automounting works. It's not clear how to enable it, it's
not clear how the permissions work, and it's not clear how to m
On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 10:57:37PM +0200, Henning Glawe wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 10:18:01AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
> > But worse -- what if you're not using Gnome or KDE? I can find no way
> > for a user that doesn't use any X applications to take advant
On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 01:32:42AM +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
> > /etc/fstab: if something is marked "user", then a user can mount it.
> > You can also look at the permissions of the entry in /dev to see if a
> > user can access it directly.
>
> That is still the case
>
> > Now, apparently, if
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Severity: wishlist
Owner: John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* Package name: hsemail
Version : 2005-04-29
Upstream Author : Peter Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://cryp.to/hsemail/
* License : GPL
Programming Lang: Haskell
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* Package name: haskell-blockio
Version : 2006-02-03
Upstream Author : Peter Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://cryp.to/blockio/
* License : BSD-like
Programming L
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Severity: wishlist
Owner: John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* Package name: haskell-child
Version : 2005-02-14
Upstream Author : Peter Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://cryp.to/child/
* License : GPL
Programming L
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* Package name: hslogger
Version : 1.0.0
Upstream Author : John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://software.complete.org/hslogger
* License : LGPL
Programming L
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Owner: John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* Package name: ftphs
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* URL : http://software.complete.org/ftphs
* License : LGPL
Programming L
Hi,
I believe that we should enable CPU frequency scaling, and the ondemand
governer, by default in etch.
By doing so, we:
* Save our users money with their power bills
* Reduce the contribution to pollution and global warming by machines
running Debian, and thus help to save the planet.
On Thu, Dec 07, 2006 at 05:03:42PM +0100, Evgeni Golov wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Dec 2006 09:36:29 -0600 John Goerzen wrote:
>
> > I believe that we should enable CPU frequency scaling, and the
> > ondemand governer, by default in etch.
>
> s/ondemand/conservative/
I personally
On Thu, Dec 07, 2006 at 05:23:51PM +0100, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
> Am Donnerstag 07 Dezember 2006 16:36 schrieb John Goerzen:
> > I believe that we should enable CPU frequency scaling, and the ondemand
> > governer, by default in etch.
>
> Did you read the kernel help
On Thu, Dec 07, 2006 at 05:43:07PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Dec 07, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > 1. Compile all the CPU frequency drivers (not the governors) into the
> >kernel statically. This should only add about 150K to the kernel
>
On Thu, Dec 07, 2006 at 07:28:50PM +0100, Mattia Dongili wrote:
> arch/sparc64/kernel/us2e_cpufreq.c: policy->cpuinfo.transition_latency =
> 0;
> arch/sparc64/kernel/us3_cpufreq.c: policy->cpuinfo.transition_latency =
> 0;
>
> I'd say half of the supported cpus haven't ondemand/conserva
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* Package name: haskell-anydbm
Version : 1.0.0
Upstream Author : John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://software.complete.org/anydbm (coming soon)
* License : LGPL
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* Package name: haskell-configfile
Version : 1.0.0
Upstream Author : John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://software.complete.org/configfile (coming soon)
* License
On Fri, Dec 08, 2006 at 06:54:33PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> Anthony DeRobertis dijo [Fri, Dec 08, 2006 at 06:31:55PM -0500]:
> > > * Will cause negligible impact on system performance. ondemand seems
> > >to have the philosophy of "max system speed unless I can be shown
> > >that the s
Hi,
#396817 was reported back in November. Ian Lynagh, maintainer of GHC,
and I both believe that the build was proceeding normally and that on
the platform in question, it is not unreasonable to expect it to
take quite a bit of time to compile that file.
I have tried, in vain, to figure out som
On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 10:55:48AM -0600, Carlo Segre wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Dec 2006, John Goerzen wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >#396817 was reported back in November. Ian Lynagh, maintainer of GHC,
> >and I both believe that the build was proceeding normally and that on
&
Debian From Scratch (DFS) is a single, full rescue CD capable of
working with all major filesystems, LVM, software RAID, and even
compiling a new kernel. The DFS ISO images also contain a small
Debian mirror subset that lets you use cdebootstrap, along with the
other utilities on the CD, to perfor
Hello,
I intend to take over the Bacula package. I would first like to say
thanks to Jose Luis Tallon for initially packaging it for Debian and
maintaining it for these years.
A brief history of why I intend to do this:
* Bacula has had RC bugs open for more than a year. It was removed
fro
On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 03:45:42PM -0300, Gustavo Franco wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> Thanks for this. I'm using backuppc at work and was considering to
> move our backups to bacula after upgrading our current hardware setup.
> Package updates and bug squashing in general was on the roadmap.
>
> That wo
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 01:36:47PM +0200, José Luis Tallón wrote:
> Ok. I don't like flamewars either. There are plenty on Debian-Devel.
I should point out that you CC'd your reply to this message I sent you
in private to debian-devel.
> > Unfortunate, but the proper thing to do in this situatio
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 12:10:52PM +0200, José Luis Tallón wrote:
> I previously declined very 'consistent' offers to adopt/take over
> Bacula, and offered co-maintenance instead.
> One of the main reasons: i have quite good relations with upstream
> (almost made them move main development to Debia
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 06:12:52PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > I have not withdrawn my intent to take over Bacula. I am volunteering
> > to do some pretty significant work on it, and have already done so.
>
> You should not go ahead and remove José from maintenance over his
> objection if h
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 07:03:16PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
> I also don't see how it matters: If José and John were Co-maintainers,
> no other DD would sponsor José's uploads. In consequence, John would be
There is no guarantee of that. Somebody has been uploading these
packages all along, an
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 07:53:23PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> developer like yourself in the team to help out and explain where and
> why things are good or bad will surely help in the long run. In light of
> that, and in light of his past contributions (good and, well, 'not as
> good') which
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 07:37:34PM +0200, José Luis Tallón wrote:
> >> You should not go ahead and remove José from maintenance over his
> >> objection if he offers you co-maintenance. Your reason for hijacking
> >> bacula seems to have been that José was slacking, not anything personal
> >> or som
On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 01:09:11PM +0200, Roberto Lumbreras wrote:
> rover, Jose Luis's sponsor and uploader of many of his packages including
> bacula, you can blame me also if you want
Others have pretty well addressed the rest of your message already. I'd
like to expand on this point.
I've be
r you. I received no reply
prior to posting my message on debian-devel.
I can provide logs and message copies if you need them.
> I still don't know what is John Goerzen trying to achieve with this.
Working Bacula packages in Debian. Period.
> More on this later.
I'm sure
e ftp-master scripts for my uploads.
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BTW, you *KNEW* that your "
On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 09:35:57AM +0200, Turbo Fredriksson wrote:
> But regarding the build system, I REALLY object to any major changes! Fixes
> yes,
> but not REPLACEMENT!!
Well, it's a little late for that. ;-)
> The first build system really sucked. It took AGES to build, and that
I have
On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 03:29:55PM +0200, Turbo Fredriksson wrote:
> The ONLY problem with the current (partial) build system is that part of (!!)
> the build is hardcoded. Where libs are, and the name of the MySQL/PgSQL libs
> will rarely (if ever) change so this is not a PROBLEM, it's only a
> '
't be
considered for migration to testing.
The openssl page says "Not touching package, as requested by freeze".
I have no idea what that means, or if it impacts bacula.
Any thoughts?
Thanks,
--
John Goerzen
Author, Foundations of Python Network Programming
http://www.amazon.com
On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 02:55:39AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> > regards,
> > -- stratus
>
> Any source that builds udebs is always frozen (openssl builds
> libcrypto0.9.8-udeb). Udebs have to be moved into testing manualy and
> without the freeze the source+deb and udeb versions would dr
On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 05:39:10PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 12:18:39AM -0700, Mike Bird wrote:
> > be posted to debian-legal.
>
> For those playing along at home, Mike isn't a Debian developer, doesn't
> maintain any packages, and isn't a new-maintainer applicant. He d
Also, I should add that agreeing to a license that commits SPI to
indemnify Sun in certain circumstances should not have happened without
consulting with the board of SPI and SPI's attorney. **Regardless** of
the particular opinion on whether or not this is a legal risk, this
consultation should h
On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 03:30:49PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 05:39:10PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> >> For those playing along at home, Mike isn't a Debian developer, doesn't
> >
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 09:43:02PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> Mmm. The impression I got was that people were waiting for the packages
> to be removed from Debian and no one was really all that interested in
> responses from Sun, cf:
>
>http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2006/06/msg00025.h
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