Re: Sparc build failure analysis (was Re: StrongARM tactics)

2005-12-11 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 06:53:47AM -0800, Blars Blarson wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 05:21:46PM -0800, Blars Blarson wrote: I can do the analyzing, but what should I do with the results? [EMAIL PROTECTED] seems to be a black hole.

Re: Thoughts on Debian quality, including automated testing

2005-12-22 Thread Kevin Mark
On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 03:07:10PM +0100, Adrian von Bidder wrote: On Wednesday 21 December 2005 12.23, Thomas Hood wrote: I don't think that it is ridiculous to require that every package have a team behind it---i.e., at least two maintainers. First, if someone can't find ONE other

Re: bug tracking for non-RC architectures

2005-12-27 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Dec 27, 2005 at 03:26:10PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: Hi folks, For architectures that are not release candidates, we are going to need another way to track release critical bugs. The whole point of having architecture criteria is so the project can give higher priority to issues

Re: Thoughts on Debian quality, including automated testing

2005-12-27 Thread Kevin Mark
On Mon, Dec 26, 2005 at 01:03:21AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Sat, Dec 24, 2005 at 10:11:57AM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: The difference is who does the work. I a well-team-maintained package, the work is actually done by the team, and decisions are made after finding a consensus

Re: Maintaining a debian package

2006-01-03 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 10:59:12PM +0100, Andi Drebes wrote: Hi there! I'm currently developing an application for library management (real books, CDs, etc). I'd like to distribute it over the internet, because I think it could be useful to other users. As I'm using debian and like it pretty

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-04 Thread Kevin Mark
On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 12:20:07PM +0100, Thomas Hood wrote: Andreas Schuldei wrote: we need to promote the easy entry points to contributing to debian more prominently and should hide the how to become a DD in comparison. Manoj Srivastava wrote: What on earth for? Andreas Schuldei

Re: Canonical's business model

2006-01-13 Thread Kevin Mark
On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 09:03:24PM -0200, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: Having said that, I'd also like to have non-ubuntu-specific patches be fed to our BTS; that would really make me feel there's a strong policy of giving back. While my relationship with people at ubuntu working on gksu is

Re: Dissection of an Ubuntu PR message

2006-01-13 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 03:03:14PM -0200, Gustavo Franco wrote: On 1/13/06, Matthew Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Nusinow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please stop trying to twist my words around. Canonical didn't contribute back. An individual who happened to work for Canonical

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-15 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 08:34:33PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can't agree. From the sound of this and other threads, there are a number of folks who are unlikely to be satisfied with any behavior on the part of the Ubuntu project or its

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-15 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sat, Jan 14, 2006 at 09:42:22AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Fri, 13 Jan 2006, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Um, I have said nothing against crediting maintainers in the packages. I have only said that I would like Ubuntu to clearly label which is the Debian maintainer and which is the

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-15 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 01:36:43PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: would it be usefull if the Ubuntu Maintainer would add a 'ubuntu-specific' usertag to those bugs in the Ubuntu BTS as a way of telling Debian folks (as well as others

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-19 Thread Kevin Mark
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 03:47:15PM +0100, Reinhard Tartler wrote: On 1/17/06, Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As it is, to me, Ubuntu is just a group of people, some of which might have names[1]. I find it hard to work with such a thing;

Re: [ad-hominem construct deleted]

2006-01-19 Thread Kevin Mark
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 10:26:05AM +0100, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 10:01 +0100, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: * Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-01-17 11:36]: Kennedy wasn't a citizen of Berlin, either, not literally. The

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-20 Thread Kevin Mark
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 05:58:20PM -0500, David Nusinow wrote: On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 01:47:18PM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 09:23:30PM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote: * Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-01-19

Re: A great weekend for Debian

2006-01-23 Thread Kevin Mark
On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 06:56:56PM +0100, Amaya wrote: #include hi.h and thanks for your time to write such a useful note about how you and others are keeping Debian great! much snip-age It leads me to think Debian accounts should expire in a year of no activity and packages be automatically

Re: emacs 21.4, Chinese and utf-8

2006-01-23 Thread Kevin Mark
be asking on an irc channel of the derivative (eg. #knoppix) At some point in the future Debian may have similar discussion with other derivitavies like Knoppix. Cheers, Kevin Mark ps. I hope you dont mind me CC the debian-devel list as I think your post is a data point in the issue being

Re: Offline use of apt-cacher

2006-01-23 Thread Kevin Mark
On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 09:23:55PM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote: #include hallo.h snipage As said bvefore, if you activate this mode manually, this should be an easy feature to add on. How do you want to configure it? Eduard. Hi Eduard, I was just struck by your choice of phrase. It, in a way,

Re: A great weekend for Debian

2006-01-23 Thread Kevin Mark
On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 11:08:57AM +0100, Amaya wrote: Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: I think you're overly optimistic :-) Most of the simple RC bugs (related to the xlibs-dev transition) have been fixed; there aren't 90 more like those. Those left are:

Re: Bug#350982: ITP: slimscrobbler -- SlimServer plugin that submits listening data to Last.FM

2006-02-02 Thread Kevin Mark
On Thu, Feb 02, 2006 at 05:58:54PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le jeudi 02 février 2006 à 09:10 -0700, dann frazier a écrit : On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 03:05 -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote: [dann frazier] * Package name: slimscrobbler Description : SlimServer plugin that

Re: Bug#350982: ITP: slimscrobbler -- SlimServer plugin that submits listening data to Last.FM

2006-02-02 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 06:16:29AM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: On Thu, Feb 02, 2006 at 09:41:55PM -0500, Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Josselin, I have read many descriptions that made no sense to me and it was mentioned that you either know what the jargon/terms are because

Re: How to contribute

2006-02-13 Thread Kevin Mark
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 01:58:09PM +, Michael Rasmussen wrote: Hi all, How to I contribute an application to Debian? I am the developer of the application and it is released under GPL Regards, Michael Rasmussen Hi Michael, there is documentation on the debian.org website for

Re: How to contribute

2006-02-13 Thread Kevin Mark
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 07:14:04PM +0100, Michael Rasmussen wrote: Hi Kevin, On 13-02-2006 15:38:16, Kevin Mark wrote: there is documentation on the debian.org website for developers under the developers sections. The basic thing is to read about the 'ITP' (intent to package) ,'RFS' request

Re: Bug#352912: general: Reduce network load using zip packaging and VFS

2006-02-15 Thread Kevin Mark
On Wed, Feb 15, 2006 at 08:25:07PM +0300, =?UTF-8?Q? =D0=9F=D0=BE=D1=80=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=BD_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=9B=D1=8C=D0=B2=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B8=D1=87 ?= wrote: First, I suggested .zip just for an example. There are other similar archivers with bigger compression ratio. snip One

Re: Honesty in Debian (was Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-02-17 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 12:13:04AM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: Xavier Roche dijo [Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 10:55:57AM +0100]: Fonts or documentations are not softwares, for god's sake! everything that is not hardware is software So a cat is a software, or a hardware ? Do I have to provide

Re: ITP: freebsd-manpages -- Manual pages for a GNU/kFreeBSD system

2006-02-18 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 09:02:57AM +0100, Javier Fern?ndez-Sanguino Pe?a wrote: On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 11:55:22PM +0100, Guerkan Senguen wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: freebsd-manpages Version : 6.0 Wouldn't this package conflict with the

Re: ITP: freebsd-manpages -- Manual pages for a GNU/kFreeBSD system

2006-02-18 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 09:42:19AM +0100, David Weinehall wrote: On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 03:30:38AM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 09:02:57AM +0100, Javier Fern?ndez-Sanguino Pe?a wrote: On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 11:55:22PM +0100, Guerkan Senguen wrote: Package: wnpp

Re: Change .rm to mp3 or wav file

2006-02-18 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 09:29:52AM -0800, Peter Khwatenge wrote: Do you have a program that can change .rm to mp3 or wave files? If yes, how can I get one? Thanks Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Peter, there is software to do this but your questions should be asked on the

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

2006-02-19 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sun, Feb 19, 2006 at 02:11:30AM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote: No, the point of Java is to allow users to run Java software, which they may or may not have written themselves, and which may or may not be free software. Examples of all permutations of the above are really easy to find. Can

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main

2006-02-19 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sun, Feb 19, 2006 at 11:42:55PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Mike Hommey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 05:04:54PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow The availability to do this is enough even if there are other (possibly better) ways to do the same. One free driver

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main

2006-02-19 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sun, Feb 19, 2006 at 05:54:59PM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: it seems that even before the SC, folks had different catagories for Sorry, that should be: ...even before the GR to change the SC, Cheers, Kev -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-20 Thread Kevin Mark
On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 11:12:46PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: Jari Aalto [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To my understanding the only way to obtain the license information for a package is to actually download it (or install it) and the study the content of

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 02:35:52AM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote: [Kevin Mark] would it provide any automation or easier processing for the NEW queue(ftpmasters)? I doubt it. They don't take the maintainer's word for stuff like that, as I understand it - they double-check the copyright

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 10:40:33AM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote: On 10572 March 1977, Kevin Mark wrote: You mean they check ever single time $RANDOM_PACKAGE enter NEW and don't assume its correct until someone raises an objections? Yes. And the big number of rejects due to incorrect debian

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 10:48:30AM +0100, Thomas Viehmann wrote: Kevin Mark wrote: You mean they check ever single time $RANDOM_PACKAGE enter NEW and don't assume its correct until someone raises an objections? I'd at least think you could create a sub-queue in NEW so that already tagged

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 11:01:07AM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote: On 10572 March 1977, Kevin Mark wrote: I understand the general idea of a DFSG-free license but, for example, if Clint uploads yet another zsh package bugfix, I'm not expecting him to have it under a different license

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 12:10:27PM +0100, Michael Koch wrote: On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 04:58:07AM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 10:48:30AM +0100, Thomas Viehmann wrote: Hi Thomas, as I just wrote to Joerge, I am not refering to the initial upload of a brand-new package

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 08:34:22AM +, Ross Burton wrote: On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 02:45 -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: would it provide any automation or easier processing for the NEW queue(ftpmasters)? I'd assume part of the FTP masters checking is actually verifying the license specified

Re: Marking BTS spam

2006-02-21 Thread Kevin Mark
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 01:07:39PM -0700, Shaun Jackman wrote: Is it possible to mark a particular message to the BTS (as in [EMAIL PROTECTED]) as spam? This information could be used for filtering the web page reports, or possibly training the

Re: Marking BTS spam

2006-02-22 Thread Kevin Mark
On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 08:20:45AM +0100, Nico Golde wrote: Hi, * Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-02-22 07:51]: On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 01:07:39PM -0700, Shaun Jackman wrote: Is it possible to mark a particular message to the BTS (as in [EMAIL PROTECTED]) as spam? This information

Re: Marking BTS spam

2006-02-22 Thread Kevin Mark
On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 08:20:45AM +0100, Nico Golde wrote: Hi, * Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-02-22 07:51]: On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 01:07:39PM -0700, Shaun Jackman wrote: Is it possible to mark a particular message to the BTS (as in [EMAIL PROTECTED]) as spam? This information

Re: More polls and social pressure

2006-02-22 Thread Kevin Mark
On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 09:43:23AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: [ Reply-to debian-project ] Hi everybody, given the size of the project, it's very difficult for any of us to evaluate the popularity of random ideas/opinions in a short time frame. Jeroen (jvw) recently conducted two

Re: the latest gnome

2006-03-02 Thread Kevin Mark
Hi TB, On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 01:07:03PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: The latest gnome (2.12.2 according to DesktopAbout GNOME) has, like all previous upgrades, disabled my preference for emacs-style editing in forms, etc. It used to be in the Keyboard Preferences dialog, but as I

Re: ITP: ldtp -- LDTP is the Linux Desktop Testing Project

2006-03-05 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 03:45:19PM +0530, Soumyadip Modak wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: ldtp Version : x.y.z Upstream Author : Name [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.example.org/ * License : (GPL, LGPL, BSD, MIT/X, etc.)

Re: Unidentified subject!

2006-03-08 Thread Kevin Mark
On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 06:35:59AM -0800, John Gee wrote: marc writes: snip If nothing else Joseph Smidt at least you seem to be someone who cares enough about Debian to spend your time contemplating about it. But this is a meritacrosy, and you are not a developer. I refer you to your

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-10 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 09:43:22PM +0100, Adrian von Bidder wrote: It's sad, yes, but I think it's just the way people work. Debian is a city now, not a village anymore - lots of people know lots of other people not very well or not at all. This probably includes people in important

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-11 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sat, Mar 11, 2006 at 08:52:53AM +0100, Adrian von Bidder wrote: On Saturday 11 March 2006 03:27, Kevin Mark wrote: [DPL as mediator] The DPL already could do that. The DPL probably in the past *did* step in in some cases behind the scenes. There's no reason for the technical overhead

Re: NEW queue backing up again -- ftpmasters, any explanation or comment?

2006-03-13 Thread Kevin Mark
On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 10:49:39PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: Petter Reinholdtsen dijo [Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 11:00:47AM +0100]: The mirror split is a complicated endeavour. From what I understood, the NEW queue was put on hold on purpose until the split is complete. Ouch. If that is

Re: NEW queue backing up again -- ftpmasters, any explanation or comment?

2006-03-14 Thread Kevin Mark
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Simon, On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 02:48:18PM +0100, Simon Richter wrote: Hi, Kevin Mark wrote: If someone differentiated it into a simple triaged state: unseen, seem and expect to process soon and seen and requires more processing, it may

Re: [desktop] ¿Dead?

2006-03-16 Thread Kevin Mark
On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 06:14:26PM -0400, Janez Rabzelj Zappone wrote: Hi, the project is dead? No, this is not an ex-project. It is sleeping! Not unlike the Norwegian blue parrot! Cheers, Kev -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |

Re: etch before vista

2006-03-24 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 11:38:40PM +0100, A Mennucc wrote: On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 08:07:48PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote: On 10603 March 1977, A. Mennucc wrote: I hope we do manage to release in Dec 2005 (and I thank people who work hard to this end). We wont, im sure. :- gotme

Re: etch before vista

2006-03-24 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 09:28:47PM -0500, Benjamin Seidenberg wrote: Kevin Mark wrote: Hi *, I noticed on occassion on -devel and planet that folks mention in passing that I'll be in MN in US from MAR 01 thru 05 and I'd like to have a beer and do keysigning. Would it be worthwhile

Re: popcon?

2005-01-31 Thread Kevin Mark
On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 01:46:33PM +0100, Adrian von Bidder wrote: Hi, Is master just hopelessly overloaded, or is popcon defunct? I get bounces ('warning: msg not delivered after 24h') from master. cheers -- vbi -- featured link: http://fortytwo.ch/gpg/intro Hi vbi, IIRC I read

Re: Bug#273734: education-common: con't fulfill the Recommends on !i386

2004-10-04 Thread Kevin Mark
On Mon, Oct 04, 2004 at 05:17:50PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 11:16:56PM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: On Mon, Oct 04, 2004 at 12:03:48AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: Assume a package would recommend grub which is only available on i386. There are two cases: - grub

Re: about volatile.d.o/n

2004-10-09 Thread Kevin Mark
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Oct 08, 2004 at 05:51:48PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: Hi all, we had some discussion about volatile, and I'm more and more considering to pick this task up. I think some issues are quite obvious: - packages should only go in in

Re: about volatile.d.o/n

2004-10-09 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sat, Oct 09, 2004 at 11:00:51AM +0200, Francesco Paolo Lovergine wrote: On Sat, Oct 09, 2004 at 03:01:11AM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: Packages like virus checkers seem to be composed of 2 parts: the app program and the data where the data in this case are virus sigs and the app is say

Re: about volatile.d.o/n

2004-10-09 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sat, Oct 09, 2004 at 10:43:05AM -0400, Stephen Gran wrote: This one time, at band camp, Kevin Mark said: On Sat, Oct 09, 2004 at 11:00:51AM +0200, Francesco Paolo Lovergine wrote: On Sat, Oct 09, 2004 at 03:01:11AM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: Packages like virus checkers seem

Re: about volatile.d.o/n

2004-10-09 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sat, Oct 09, 2004 at 04:37:14PM +0100, paddy wrote: On Sat, Oct 09, 2004 at 10:43:05AM -0400, Stephen Gran wrote: This one time, at band camp, Kevin Mark said: On Sat, Oct 09, 2004 at 11:00:51AM +0200, Francesco Paolo Lovergine wrote: On Sat, Oct 09, 2004 at 03:01:11AM -0400, Kevin

Re: [OT:HUMOR] Re: software

2004-10-11 Thread Kevin Mark
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 10, 2004 at 11:37:06PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: Price for Commercial Software: Adobe Illustrator CS - 90.00 Adobe Acrobat 6.0 Professional - 100.00 McAfee Personal Firewall Plus 2004 v. 5.0 - 20.00 Adobe Photoshop Elements 2.0 -

Re: gfreeamp playlist inquiry

2004-10-22 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 10:05:30PM -0400, Siqueland-Gresch wrote: Hello and good evening from Rhode Island ! I do not know whether you can help me. Right up front, I am not a programmer at all. No clue. Not a sausage.So if I sound ignorant it is because I am. But here it is: I have

Re: gfreeamp playlist inquiry

2004-10-24 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 11:35:19AM +0200, Ulrich Eckhardt wrote: On Saturday 23 October 2004 05:42, Kevin Mark wrote: Your ability to ask for features in the software programs that you use is one of the advantages of libre/free software. Errm, can't you do so with any piece of software

what is /var/backup for?

2004-10-25 Thread Kevin Mark
Hi DD folks, just a simple question. Is there a policy for /var/backup and what is it for or how should it be used? If there is a URL, google didnt show anything. TIA -Kev -- (__) (oo) /--\/ / ||| * /\---/\ ~~ ~~ Have you mooed today?... signature.asc

any comments on diagram?

2004-11-09 Thread Kevin Mark
Hi DD folks, i made a diagram in xfig of what I think is the debian development model. Could folks give me a few comments on what's not correct. http://kmark.home.pipeline.com/debian.png TIA -Kev -- counter.li.org #238656 -- goto counter.li.org and be counted! (__) (oo)

Re: any comments on diagram?

2004-11-09 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 09:55:45PM +0100, Sven Mueller wrote: Kevin Mark [u] wrote on 09/11/2004 18:29: i made a diagram in xfig of what I think is the debian development model. Could folks give me a few comments on what's not correct. http://kmark.home.pipeline.com/debian.png AFAICT from

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-02 Thread Kevin Mark
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 07:57:56PM +0100, Milan P. Stanic wrote: On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 06:17:37PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: However, I'd be *highly* agitated if someone gave my daughter a CD-ROM with *any* nudy cartoons. I'd rather live with this risk than with less freedom. only in a

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-02 Thread Kevin Mark
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 10:04:15PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think that the best solution to many of the worlds problems would be to provide really cheap laptops and good net access (including satellite net access). The idea is that

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-02 Thread Kevin Mark
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 01:45:25AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 07:53:41 +0100, Christian Perrier [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Quoting Fernanda Giroleti Weiden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hi all, I read all the thread and I noted

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-02 Thread Kevin Mark
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 02:36:56AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On Thu, 2004-12-02 at 01:54 -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 07:57:56PM +0100, Milan P. Stanic wrote: On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 06:17:37PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-02 Thread Kevin Mark
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 12:04:06PM +0100, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote: On Thursday 02 December 2004 10.36, Kevin Mark wrote: On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 10:04:15PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: In Europe, cheap printing led

package rejection

2004-12-02 Thread Kevin Mark
Hi fellow debianista, the package in question has not yet been accepted. For a pacakge to be accepted, here is conditions some have mentioned: 1) dfsg-free 2) can not be sexist 3) has to be able to be mirrored by all mirrors based on the laws of the location of the server 4) can not offend

Re: Questionable image process. Was: Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- (abusive?) erotic images in Debian

2004-12-05 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 05:19:44PM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: Would country/region-specific jigdo files be a reasonable solution? I don't think we've enumerated all of the data paths that can generate problems. I guess jigdo means the general category of CDs. To

Re: Debian's status as a legal entity and how it could effect a potential defense.

2004-12-06 Thread Kevin Mark
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 10:07:59PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Bruce Perens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It shows that sexual harassment in the workplace is one of their big concerns. And rightly so. Awards have been as large as $30

Re: Debian's status as a legal entity and how it could effect a potential defense.

2004-12-06 Thread Kevin Mark
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 12:24:19AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 22:08 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A legal opinion on this matter would be a good idea... Keep in mind that

Re: package rejection

2004-12-06 Thread Kevin Mark
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 06:51:23PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: On Friday 03 December 2004 16:19, Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2) can not be sexist Bad idea. We should avoid subjective criteria. 3) has to be able to be mirrored

updated debian development diagram -- comments?

2005-01-03 Thread Kevin Mark
Hi Folks, I have updated my diagram on the debian developement model. Any comments appreciated! Also, the source is *.fig. Can anyone point to a similar .deb of a graphic document so that I can see what documents a graphics file needs so that I can make a GPL DFSG compliant package. I exported

Re: updated debian development diagram -- comments?

2005-01-03 Thread Kevin Mark
On Mon, Jan 03, 2005 at 08:47:02AM +0100, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: * Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Folks, I have updated my diagram on the debian developement model. Any comments appreciated! It's volatile, not volitile -- Ralf Hildebrandt (i.A. des IT-Zentrum) [EMAIL

Re: RFS tag?

2005-01-05 Thread Kevin Mark
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 01:30:21PM +0100, Nico Golde wrote: hi, * Frederik Dannemare [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-01-05 12:43]: On Wednesday 05 January 2005 09:50, Nico Golde wrote: Hi, what about an RFS tag for ITPs or and RFS bug report for wnpp. So debian developers who like to sponsor

Re: RunDinstallHourly

2005-01-05 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 11:16:44PM -0800, Ken Bloom wrote: On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 18:04:37 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 08:08:47PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: Ken Bloom wrote: http://wiki.debian.net/?RunDinstallHourly (part of the ReleaseProposals topic on

Re: updated debian development diagram -- comments?

2005-01-05 Thread Kevin Mark
On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 01:56:13AM +0100, Alexander Schmehl wrote: Hi Kevin! * Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] [050103 07:08]: I have updated my diagram on the debian developement model. Any comments appreciated! What is the target group of your diagramm? Hi Alexander, I wanted

Re: updated debian development diagram -- comments?

2005-01-05 Thread Kevin Mark
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 01:38:46PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: Kevin Mark dijo [Mon, Jan 03, 2005 at 01:08:49AM -0500]: Hi Folks, I have updated my diagram on the debian developement model. Any comments appreciated! Very nice! I expect to use it at some conferences (BTW: Looks like

Re: updated debian development diagram -- comments?

2005-01-08 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 07:52:22PM +0100, Alexander Schmehl wrote: * Alexander Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] [050107 19:46]: Yes, a legend for the acronyms would be fine. Oh, I just saw, that your diagramm has a legend. I'm wondering, why I didn't noticed it the other day.. Yours

Re: updated debian development diagram -- comments?

2005-01-08 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 05:14:56PM -0200, Otavio Salvador wrote: || On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 01:08:49 -0500 || Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: km Hi Folks, km I have updated my diagram on the debian developement model. Any comments km appreciated! IMHO have one wrong information

Re: updated debian development diagram -- comments?

2005-01-09 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 10:47:50AM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Sun, 09 Jan 2005, Holger Levsen wrote: unstable is described as suited for ...laptops and desktops on non-critical systems... testing is described as ... can be used for desktop systems that need more

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-02-03 Thread Kevin Mark
On Wed, Feb 02, 2005 at 06:46:03PM -0700, Joel Aelwyn wrote: On Wed, Feb 02, 2005 at 10:17:07PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2005-02-03 03:15:41, schrieb Sam Watkins: 1. People (including children) will get a nasty surprise when they choose to download all the comics to see

Re: RFC: graph of Debian package cycle

2005-02-13 Thread Kevin Mark
Hi Martin, On Sat, Feb 12, 2005 at 04:47:27PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: Based on the work of Kevin Mark (URL not available, sorry), I have http://kmark.home.pipeline.com/debian.png http://kmark.home.pipeline.com/debian.fig made a graph of the life cycle of a Debian package for inclusion

Re: RFC: graph of Debian package cycle

2005-02-13 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sat, Feb 12, 2005 at 07:08:49PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: * martin f. krafft: Based on the work of Kevin Mark (URL not available, sorry), I have made a graph of the life cycle of a Debian package for inclusion in my forthcoming book (http://debianbook.info). You can find

all new Debian diagram - now with less chaos!

2005-02-14 Thread Kevin Mark
Hi debianista, after my initial work on a diagram, and the comments and the work of madduck, I had some time to redo my diagram to produce a totally new concept. any comment appreciated. http://kmark.home.pipeline.com/newdebian.png http://kmark.home.pipeline.com/newdebian.dia cherio, Kev ps.

Re: all new Debian diagram - now with less chaos!

2005-02-15 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 10:29:37AM +0100, David Schmitt wrote: Hi Kev, list! On Tuesday 15 February 2005 08:27, Kevin Mark wrote: after my initial work on a diagram, and the comments and the work of madduck,  I had some time to redo my diagram to produce a totally new concept. any

Re: all new Debian diagram - now with less chaos!

2005-02-15 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 11:24:18AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: Hi Kevin, Great work! I am glad to see you got down with dia; I love that tool. Here are some comments: Its cool that it exports to xfig as a way to use both tools. a. I am not sure what the process realm is. ACK. renamed

Re: all new Debian diagram - now with less chaos!

2005-02-15 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 01:11:33PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: h. There are more rules as to when packages migrate from unstable to testing. i. You use both meanings of priority (changelog and control) without making it clear which one is

Re: all new Debian diagram - now with less chaos!

2005-02-15 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 05:34:38PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 02:27 -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: Hi debianista, after my initial work on a diagram, and the comments and the work of madduck, I had some time to redo my diagram to produce a totally new concept. any

Re: all new Debian diagram - now with less chaos!

2005-02-16 Thread Kevin Mark
On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 07:34:27AM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: * Kevin Mark [Tue, 15 Feb 2005 21:09:03 -0500]: And I've never read ITO as a tag for orphaning bug. Either one mails to -devel (or wherever) saying that they intend to give away or orphan some packages, but this isn't a bug

Re: all new Debian diagram - now with less chaos!

2005-02-16 Thread Kevin Mark
On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 08:04:21AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: snip Hi Martin, source package: dsc + (diff) + orig.tar.gz binary package: deb source upload: changes + list of files therein I added some of this to my diagram. not 100% yet. snip nah, we turn software into debian

Re: all new Debian diagram - now with less chaos!

2005-02-16 Thread Kevin Mark
On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 10:53:28AM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: although, now I am getting confused about the difference between a debian developer and a debian maintainer. I labeled most items with 'DD' thinking that's who did stuff. More things

Re: Let's remove mips, mipsel, s390, ...

2005-02-20 Thread Kevin Mark
On Mon, Feb 21, 2005 at 12:33:24AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Feb 20, 2005 at 10:57:47PM +, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: Clint Byrum cbyrum at spamaps.org writes: Now, can someone please tell me how messages like the one below, and

Re: Let's remove mips, mipsel, s390, ...

2005-02-21 Thread Kevin Mark
On Mon, Feb 21, 2005 at 04:30:27PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Mon, Feb 21, 2005 at 03:53:44PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Hypothetical daily KDE builds would also insanely increase the amount

Re: the ongoing xfree86 buildd saga

2005-02-24 Thread Kevin Mark
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 12:35:50PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Ingo Juergensmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 12:13:42PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Do the buildd people read this list? How do we get this cleaned up? As far as I can tell you: the

updated package development diagram w/new spanish translation

2005-03-06 Thread Kevin Mark
Hi tired and overworked folks, I recently got some help from a fellow in cuba(Maykel Moya) to translate my diagram into spanish. I have added some bits about the autobuild network but have not reconciled it with my original bits. On the far right is the unincorperated bits. Its now at:

Re: deb src

2006-04-08 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sun, Apr 09, 2006 at 12:22:25AM +0600, krot wrote: Good afternoon! Prompt where it is possible to find diff.gz for assembly gcc 4.0.1, glibc 2.3.5, MySQL 5.0.12? There Is such resource where are stored{kept} all diff.gz for all versions of source codes? Hi, All binary packages have

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-14 Thread Kevin Mark
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 04:20:13PM +0300, Linas Žvirblis wrote: Joey Hess wrote: Z If so, I would be happy to add this to tasksel, so that the desktop task automatically installs it if it detects a system that is not easily capable of running kde/gnome. Tasksel has the infrastructure

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-14 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, Apr 14, 2006 at 03:00:44AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On Fri, 2006-04-14 at 09:40 +0200, Giuseppe Sacco wrote: Il giorno gio, 13/04/2006 alle 11.46 +0200, Eduard Bloch ha scritto: [...] - evince As other pointed out, does basically the same job as xpdf but pulls half of

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