Bug#534750: ITP: telepathy-mission-control-5 -- management daemon for Telepathy real-time communication framework

2009-06-26 Thread Simon McVittie
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Simon McVittie s...@debian.org * Package name: telepathy-mission-control-5 Version : 5.1.2 Upstream Author : the Telepathy project (© Nokia Corporation, Collabora Ltd.) * URL : http

Bug#539008: ITP: telepathy-qt4 -- Telepathy framework - Qt 4 library

2009-07-28 Thread Simon McVittie
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Simon McVittie s...@debian.org * Package name: telepathy-qt4 Version : 0.1.9 Upstream Author : the Telepathy project (© Collabora Ltd./Nokia Corporation) * URL : http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/wiki/ * License : LGPL2.1

Re: Bug#539008: ITP: telepathy-qt4 -- Telepathy framework - Qt 4 library

2009-07-28 Thread Simon McVittie
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 at 23:39:32 +0200, Fathi Boudra wrote: $ apt-cache search telepathy |grep -i qt4 ... libqttapioca0 - Qt4 tapioca library ... libqttelepathycore0 - core library for Qt4 telepathy That's not the same library (sorry about the naming, I hadn't realised telepathy-qt was also for

Re: Possible MBF due to DBus security issue

2009-01-03 Thread Simon McVittie
After removing Uploaders and cross-referencing against fd.o #18980 (up to and including Comment #12, https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18980#c12): Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org knetworkmanager https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=475468 powersave ??? Julien BLACHE

Re: Possible MBF due to DBus security issue

2009-01-03 Thread Simon McVittie
On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 at 20:57:00 +, Simon McVittie wrote: After removing Uploaders and cross-referencing against fd.o #18980 (up to and including Comment #12, https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18980#c12): Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org knetworkmanager https

Testing requested: D-Bus-related packages and CVE-2008-4311

2009-01-04 Thread Simon McVittie
In order to fix CVE-2008-4311 the default permissions on the system bus have been tightened up. This has revealed bugs in the configurations shipped with a number of services using the system bus which relied on the broken behaviour and will now break. We've been using

Re: Possible MBF due to DBus security issue

2009-01-04 Thread Simon McVittie
know how they're *meant* to work, and I think the best time to test these would be after uploading fixed dbus and hal packages to unstable. Non-RC rule confusion refers to http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18961. On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 at 20:57:00 +, Simon McVittie wrote: After

Bug#451355: ITP: libgfshare -- library and utilities for multi-way secret sharing

2007-11-15 Thread Simon McVittie
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Simon McVittie [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: libgfshare Version : 1.0.2+bzr20070822 Upstream Author : Daniel Silverstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.digital-scurf.org

Bug#460323: ITP: unreal-assistant -- Unreal Tournament packaging helper

2008-01-11 Thread Simon McVittie
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Simon McVittie [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: unreal-assistant Version : 0.0 Upstream Author : Simon McVittie [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://bzr.debian.org/~smcv-guest/bzr

Re: Bug#460323: ITP: unreal-assistant -- Unreal Tournament packaging helper

2008-01-14 Thread Simon McVittie
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 at 17:12:52 +0100, Philipp Kern wrote: [This message has also been posted to gmane.linux.debian.devel.general.] On 2008-01-12, Simon McVittie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some more explanation: I intend to have a source package

Re: Re: Generated changes and patch systems

2008-05-29 Thread Simon McVittie
(Please cc me in any replies, I'm not subscribed.) Neil Williams wrote: ??? That simply does not work. The problem is that running gtk-doc not only requires tmpl/*.sgml files to exist but it *then modifies them*! Here's how gtk-doc *used to* work: * gtk-doc parses source code and writes out

Re: Generated changes and patch systems

2008-05-30 Thread Simon McVittie
On Thu, 29 May 2008 at 11:56:37 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Simon McVittie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: However, the no rule to make tmpl/*.sgml issue still exists, as a relic of the old build process. [...] Sounds to me like the first thing to try would be to just regenerate all of the tmpl

Re: question about lintian warnings

2011-01-10 Thread Simon McVittie
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 at 21:30:57 +0200, Evgeniy Dolgih wrote: lintian shows me 2 warnings: changelog-should-mention-nmu and source-nmu-has-incorrect-version-number. Have a look at the output of lintian-info --tags changelog-should-mention-nmu and lintian-info --tags

Re: package testing, autopkgtest, and all that

2011-02-02 Thread Simon McVittie
On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 at 14:15:07 +, Ian Jackson wrote: So if the tests were in binary packages, often we'd have to construct a weird binary package which contained all or part of the built source tree. This would be very ugly and also bulky. FWIW, Maemo does this, and it's a pain to deal

Re: The node command in Debian

2011-02-08 Thread Simon McVittie
On Mon, 07 Feb 2011 at 04:46:57 -0600, Jonathan Nieder wrote: Problem: scripts may use the 'node' name to refer to either of these programs. Which should get the name? You decide, based not on popularity or priority but --- well, based on whatever makes sense. Perhaps rename both, also

Re: RFA: sonata, mpdscribble,...

2011-02-11 Thread Simon McVittie
On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 at 15:14:51 +0100, Michal Čihař wrote: as I don't use MPD for quite a long time now, it somehow does not make sense to maintain MPD related packages anymore. Simply I don't have environment to test them. On Decklin Foster's RFA thread, there was talk of forming a mpd team,

Re: Bug#614813: ITP: suexec-conf -- Fully configurable apache suexec binary

2011-02-23 Thread Simon McVittie
On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 at 18:54:30 +0300, Alexander Gerasiov wrote: Description : Fully configurable apache suexec binary How does this differ from apache2-suexec-custom, which is provided by a Debian-specific patch in apache2? or you may want to setup wrapper for some file's types (e.g.

Re: enable/disable flags in /etc/default

2011-03-02 Thread Simon McVittie
(Cross-posting to d-d-games for discussion of the Quake III-based games) On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 at 15:20:52 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: Speaking as someone who has a few of the DONT_NOT_DISABLE_SERVICE variables in some of my packages Speaking as another implementor of similar variables: I added

Re: Disable ZeroConf: how to ?

2011-03-03 Thread Simon McVittie
On Thu, 03 Mar 2011 at 15:17:14 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: I have never in my life felt the need to do anything provided by either gnome-user-share or telepathy-salut Note that until you configure gnome-user-share, only avahi is started; gnome-user-share itself is not. The same for

Re: enable/disable support in /usr/sbin/service

2011-03-04 Thread Simon McVittie
On Fri, 04 Mar 2011 at 12:43:36 +0100, Olaf van der Spek wrote: What do other distros use? It seems to be chkconfig, not service (for this functionality). Perhaps worth noting here that because systemd is mainly being developed in Fedora, their versions of chkconfig and service already know

Re: Library depending on -data packages

2011-03-21 Thread Simon McVittie
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 at 17:18:00 +0100, Luca Capello wrote: When I found out about libm17n-0, I also found out that the change added a circular dependency and thus commented on this new bug why I think a library package should not depend on data packages Which way to break the circular

Re: Library depending on -data packages

2011-03-21 Thread Simon McVittie
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 at 12:10:16 -0500, Jonathan Nieder wrote: Simon McVittie wrote: The existence of openarena-data is an implementation detail of openarena, so it has this relationship: /-- Depends -\ openarena openarena-data \- Recommends

Re: Cross compiler ITP (armel)

2011-03-22 Thread Simon McVittie
On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 at 11:54:47 +, Mark Hymers wrote: the main people [Built-Using] should be used by, as far as I know are cross-compiler builders and the d-i and kernel-wedge people Also the ia32-libs family of packages, until they get superseded by multiarch? S -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: sslv2 and openssl 1.0

2011-04-03 Thread Simon McVittie
On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 at 02:52:17 +0200, Jérémy Lal wrote: People might complain about old sslv2 clients in case the packaged software is a server (telepathy-*, web servers) For the record, the various Telepathy daemons typically act as SSL clients (where their various protocols support SSL

Re: time based freezes

2011-04-04 Thread Simon McVittie
I agree with Stefano, pretty much... On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 at 18:15:52 +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: I believe we need time based freezes. Even more radically, I believe we need to know the freeze date as soon as possible, e.g. no later than a couple of weeks after the preceding release.

Re: Proposed pre-depends addition: all multiarched libs - multiarch-support

2011-04-05 Thread Simon McVittie
On Tue, 05 Apr 2011 at 11:12:54 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 12:36:05AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: Specifically, the plan is that any package in wheezy shipping a runtime library in a multiarch directory should declare a Pre-Depends on the metapackage

Re: Shipping /bin/sh [Re: Moving bash from essential/required to important?]

2011-04-06 Thread Simon McVittie
On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 at 01:55:20 +0200, Carsten Hey wrote: It would also need to assure that whilst it is running /bin/sh is always functional. Passing a shell to it that is not included in /etc/shells could lead to failing of this tool, unless --force is used. Not everything in /etc/shells

Re: compiling without -O2 ld shared lib errors

2011-04-08 Thread Simon McVittie
On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 at 14:49:42 +1000, Brian May wrote: /usr/bin/ld: digest-service.o: undefined reference to symbol 'heim_ntlm_calculate_ntlm1@@HEIMDAL_NTLM_1.0' /usr/bin/ld: note: 'heim_ntlm_calculate_ntlm1@@HEIMDAL_NTLM_1.0' is defined in DSO

Re: compiling without -O2 ld shared lib errors

2011-04-12 Thread Simon McVittie
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 at 09:33:25 +1000, Brian May wrote: Am thinking the best solution might be to wrap the entire ntlm_service function with the same #if __APPLE__ ... #endif, as that appears to be the only reference to ntlm_service, and I think the static definition means it can't be

Re: some suggestions towards a Debian .desktop policy [Was: Warm up discussion about desktop files]

2011-04-20 Thread Simon McVittie
On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 at 09:24:14 +, Sune Vuorela wrote: I think we should actually try to investigate how different 'menus' is using the desktop entries. GNOME Shell: displays only Name in the applications menu; displays only Name when you hover over favourite apps in the dock; type-ahead

Re: DM upload permissions in detail

2011-04-27 Thread Simon McVittie
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 at 22:34:23 +0200, Arno Töll wrote: Thanks for your answer. Good to hear there is at least the possibility to come around this issue. Now I am curious what such a good reason would be. Let's say would I don't want to be spammed on my primary UID, hence I use for Debian

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread Simon McVittie
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 at 11:29:28 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: - at freeze time, instead of freezing rolling, we make a snapshot of rolling (I call it testing) and this is where we do the work left to make it ready for release So your testing is essentially the pre-2000 frozen distribution

Re: PPAs for Debian

2011-05-03 Thread Simon McVittie
On Tue, 03 May 2011 at 14:46:11 -0600, René Mayorga wrote: On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 12:56:15PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: I'd even dare to say that having something like PPA for Debian is a priority. I do not agree on this, if the package is good enough and has somebody willing to

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-05-07 Thread Simon McVittie
On Sat, 07 May 2011 at 13:33:53 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote: c) does _NOT_ call configure As much as I wish this had been the convention, it isn't - the convention is that autogen.sh *does* call ./configure (often with options suitable for developers of the project, whereas the ./configure

Re: Writing to /etc/ from a privileged UI

2011-05-09 Thread Simon McVittie
On Mon, 09 May 2011 at 09:39:07 +0200, David Paleino wrote: I took a look at how NetworkManager handles that: it stores configuration using gconf, so it's not really comparable NM can go either way - it'll use the current user's gconf for connections that are not shared with other users,

Re: Using -Werror in CFLAGS for a debian package build

2011-05-23 Thread Simon McVittie
On Mon, 23 May 2011 at 01:44:03 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Or the reverse gcc -Wformat=error gcc -Wno-error -Wformat -Werror=format You might also be interested in m4/tp-compiler-warnings.m4 in telepathy-glib. Usage looks like this: TP_COMPILER_WARNINGS([ERROR_CFLAGS],

Re: Conditional Recommends

2011-05-23 Thread Simon McVittie
On Mon, 23 May 2011 at 16:31:10 +0200, David Kalnischkies wrote: A plugin like xul-ext-firegpg (removed discontinued upstream) enhances iceweasel and depends on gpg. Still, i don't think it would be a good idea to add something like 'Recommended-By: iceweasel gpg' as this promotes this

Re: .la file status and hint to clear the dependency_libs field

2011-05-26 Thread Simon McVittie
On Thu, 26 May 2011 at 08:47:06 +0200, Luk Claes wrote: Comments welcome, but foremost I'd like a mass effort to clear the remaining dependency_libs fields! :-) Am I right in thinking that this is the process people should follow? if depended-on: if dependency_libs: clear the

Re: consolekit makes trouble

2011-05-29 Thread Simon McVittie
On Sun, 29 May 2011 at 10:08:23 +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: kdm: :0[21175]: Cannot open ConsoleKit session: Unable to open session: Failed to execute program /usr/lib/dbus-1.0/dbus-daemon-launch-helper: Succes Reinstall the package that owns that file (which is dbus). If that doesn't help,

Re: .la file status and hint to clear the dependency_libs field

2011-05-30 Thread Simon McVittie
On Mon, 30 May 2011 at 12:23:35 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: They are at least read by libtool. For instance, when building MPFR (as a normal user): [...] Either the information provided by /usr/lib/libgmp.la is important and this file should be kept, or libtool should not attempt to read

Re: Bug#549353: ITP: arename -- automatic audio file renaming

2009-10-05 Thread Simon McVittie
arename is a tool that is able to rename audio files by looking at a file's tagging information. Without wanting to derail your enthusiasm, doesn't Debian already have some of these? :-) An aptitude search for ~drenam ~dtag (Description includes both renam and tag) lists (among some obvious

Re: Lintian based autorejects

2009-10-27 Thread Simon McVittie
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 at 15:06:07 +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote: The second category is named error and the tags listed can not be overridden. I don't think it's appropriate to make, for instance, dir-or-file-in-var-www instantly fatal without following the usual mass-bug-filing procedure. If you'd

Re: Conditions to existing packages for transition into squeeze/stable

2010-01-10 Thread Simon McVittie
Joachim Wiedorn wrote: Who know the conditions to existing packages in lenny for the transition into squeeze when it goes to stable? I think you're confused about the ways packages migrate between releases. See (for instance): http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives#s-testing Or does

Re: Debian policy update (3.8.4.0)

2010-01-28 Thread Simon McVittie
Since libdbus appears in ia32-libs and isn't particularly large, and I wanted to make an experimental upload anyway (to add a -dbg package while avoiding the NEW queue blocking unstable), I've prepared a hopefully multiarch-compatible version of it, which uses /lib/${DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE} (libdbus

Re: Debian policy update (3.8.4.0)

2010-02-01 Thread Simon McVittie
(Please cc me on this thread, I'm not subscribed to debian-devel.) Goswin wrote: Looks fine from here. How does your -dev package look? The .so link, .la and .pc files (if any) are specifically important. The -dev package has no Multi-Arch field, which seems to be how the multiarch spec on the

Re: Debian policy update (3.8.4.0)

2010-02-01 Thread Simon McVittie
On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 at 20:46:18 +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Goswin wrote: Looks fine from here. How does your -dev package look? The .so link, .la and .pc files (if any) are specifically important. The -dev package has no Multi-Arch field, which seems to be how the multiarch

multiarch and pkg-config

2010-02-02 Thread Simon McVittie
On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 at 14:22:49 +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: You can move headers, the *.so link and static libs. But .pc and .la files can not be in the triplet dir yet afaik. So that is a no go for now. But if you want you can try and see what changes libtool and pkgconfig would need

Re: Debian policy update (3.8.4.0)

2010-02-02 Thread Simon McVittie
Steve Langasek wrote: On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 11:17:19PM +, Simon McVittie wrote: In the meantime, is there consensus that shuffling the development files into /usr/lib/triplet too is at least harmless, and that Multi-Arch: same is appropriate for -dev packages where all the arch

initial packages with multiarch paths

2010-02-11 Thread Simon McVittie
/ +(but move the pkg-config file back to /usr/lib/pkgconfig since pkg-config +doesn't yet look in multiarch locations) + * Set the shared library package to be Multi-Arch: same + + -- Simon McVittie s...@debian.org Thu, 11 Feb 2010 22:56:02 + + libgfshare (1.0.3-2) unstable; urgency=low

Re: initial packages with multiarch paths

2010-02-14 Thread Simon McVittie
On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 at 14:08:07 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: FWIW, it was an unintended consequence of the wording of the policy change that static libs and .so symlinks are permitted in the multiarch dirs at this point As Goswin pointed out in an earlier thread, in the general case (libraries

Re: Downgrading a package to get it into upcoming release

2010-02-16 Thread Simon McVittie
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 at 17:04:17 +0100, Antonin Kral wrote: We have currently version 1.3.1 in unstable, this is considered as development branch which is not very stable. If you consider one of your packages to be unsuitable for a stable release, you should ensure that it has a release

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-18 Thread Simon McVittie
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 at 17:51:35 +0300, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: For packages that are free, use debian versions whenever possible. For packages that are free but patched too much, use renamed packages. For non-free packages, use current Nokia's binaries wrapped into hand-made debs.

Re: [RFC] Collecting changelog entries in projectb

2010-02-26 Thread Simon McVittie
* New upstream release. -- Simon McVittie s...@debian.org Tue, April 1, 2038 09:00:00 + Then in a later upload, I'd want to correct that: hello (6.6-2) unstable; urgency=medium * Add patch from upstream to fix build on knetbsd-mipsel and knetbsd-toaster (Closes

Re: Bug#540215: Introduce dh_checksums

2010-03-17 Thread Simon McVittie
On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 at 12:41:58 +0100, Harald Braumann wrote: It should be signed at build time, just after dh_shasums and then the sig file packaged together with all the other files. I don't see a problem with that. Or maybe I'm not getting something here? Most packages (in terms of

Re: Bug#580088: jack-audio-connection-kit: FTBFS on armel (cannot convert 'int' to 'va_list')

2010-05-03 Thread Simon McVittie
On Mon, 03 May 2010 at 18:13:00 +0200, Adrian Knoth wrote: Obviously, arg4 is NULL, so the message means the compiler cannot convert 0 to a va_list, which should be (more or less) a pointer. Or a struct, or a platform-specific-object that exists nowhere else in C, or a piece of cheese,

Re: Re: Re: segmentation fault (a.o. in /u/s/debconf/frontend)

2010-08-04 Thread Simon McVittie
On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 at 17:18:05 +0200, Fabian Greffrath wrote: In the Name: debconf/frontend section of /usr/cache/debconf/config.dat I manually changed the Value: Gnome field to Readline and now I can run apt-get -f install and finally have my system back in a usable state. Do you have GLib

Re: why are there /bin and /usr/bin...

2010-08-10 Thread Simon McVittie
On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 at 03:15:35 -0600, Bruce Sass wrote: AFAICT, the reason is so that a minimal but functional system is guaranteed to exist so long as a local HDD with a root filesystem is available The fact that you can use it for troubleshooting/repairs is a nice (and desirable)

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-12 Thread Simon McVittie
On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 at 20:27:24 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: One issue with 3.0 (quilt) is that when you check it out when it's maintained in a VCS, you have two choices: commit the .pc directory and files, or leave it out and then have to run some magic [...] - Why don't you just check in with

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-16 Thread Simon McVittie
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 at 22:28:52 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: Best practices for Git repository layout? - git-buildpackage documentation is closest to that I would have to disagree here, the git-buildpackage default layout is far too Debian-centric. By naming the Debian and Upstream branches

Re: Atlas proposal

2010-08-18 Thread Simon McVittie
On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 at 23:09:08 +0200, Sylvestre Ledru wrote: Quick remember, Atlas is a linear algebra library implementing the BLAS API/ABI. It is widely used in the scientific computing world but also by some spreadsheets (openoffice). This is an highly optimized library. The optimisation

Re: Backports service becoming official

2010-09-06 Thread Simon McVittie
On Mon, 06 Sep 2010 at 17:52:17 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: Alexander Reichle-Schmehl writes (Backports service becoming official): Because of limitations in the Debian Bug Tracking System, any bugs relevant to backported packages still have to be reported to the debian-backports [3] list

Re: recovering from compromised keys

2010-09-23 Thread Simon McVittie
(Context: a private mail to which I'm replying suggested that full-disk encryption should be used to make it harder to subvert our infrastructure, and worried about the use of an unencrypted /boot, since they could insert a keylogger or trojan into the initrd.) By policy, we use full-disk

Re: recovering from compromised keys

2010-09-23 Thread Simon McVittie
On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 at 17:31:39 +0200, Roland Mas wrote: Indeed. My current setup is that sda1 is small, unencrypted and holds /boot only. sda2 is the whole rest of the hard disk, and it's mapped to a LUKS device used as a physical volume for LVM, and there are several LVs on there,

Re: data.debian.org -- requirements for packages

2010-09-30 Thread Simon McVittie
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 at 13:09:03 -0400, Michael Hanke wrote: * compression of content Any policy to enforce compressed file formats regarding the stuff installed by a data package? I think this ought to be case-by-case: some users of large data blobs (e.g. Quake 3/Openarena PK3 files)

Re: data.debian.org -- requirements for packages

2010-10-01 Thread Simon McVittie
On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 at 09:32:02 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: Something like: Package: huge-dataset Depends: huge-dataset-base-2010-09-01, huge-dataset-patch-2010-09-10, huge-dataset-patch-2010-09-20, huge-dataset-patch-2010-09-30 And then have huge-dataset set up the data set and patch

Re: Using ccache with git-buildpackage

2010-10-04 Thread Simon McVittie
On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 at 13:49:10 +0600, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: Hello. I use git-buildpackage and want to use ccache. I tried exporting overriden CC and PATH, but that had no effect and `echo' in debian/rules shows that both variables are reverted to the defaults. Does git-buildpackage clear

Re: Bug#554788: courier-authlib shlibs missing

2010-10-09 Thread Simon McVittie
) + * Tell dh_makeshlibs and dh_shlibdeps to look in the non-standard library +directory + * Make distclean rather than clean to avoid garbage in the Debian diff when +building twice (patch from Peter Eisentraut, Closes: #527971) + + -- Simon McVittie s...@debian.org Sat, 09 Oct 2010 18:05:21

Re: [MBF proposal] Empty packages in the archive

2010-10-17 Thread Simon McVittie
On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 at 16:41:31 +0200, Luca Falavigna wrote: Debian Octave Group pkg-octave-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org octave3.2-dbg [mips, mipsel] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=572407, wishlist; debug symbols were knocked out on mips[el] to work around an ld bug

Re: [RFC] disabled root account / distinct group for users with administrative privileges

2010-10-19 Thread Simon McVittie
base-passwd documents sudo as Members of this group do not need to type their password when using sudo, which is no longer true. I've opened a bug. On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 at 09:48:58 +0200, Jesús M. Navarro wrote: On the other hand, is it really necessary a new group? Can't adm or operator be

Re: [RFC] disabled root account / distinct group for users with administrative privileges

2010-10-20 Thread Simon McVittie
On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 at 01:58:22 +, The Fungi wrote: On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 09:48:58AM +0200, Jesús M. Navarro wrote: On the other hand, is it really necessary a new group? Can't adm or operator be overloaded with this new functionality? (think Ockham's razor). Maybe similarly

Re: [RFC] disabled root account / distinct group for users with administrative privileges

2010-10-22 Thread Simon McVittie
On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 at 17:53:53 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: It depends on the definition of equivalent. The definition of root-equivalent I'd use is: if an account is compromised (an attacker gains control of it), and the attacker can get root privileges as a result,

Re: [RFC] disabled root account / distinct group for users with administrative privileges

2010-10-22 Thread Simon McVittie
On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 at 11:44:31 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that priv was occasionally used as a username for an ordinary user. If I saw it out of context I'd also tend to assume that priv is short for private instead of privileged, but perhaps that's just

Re: History ...: [RFC] disabled root account / distinct group for users with administrative privileges

2010-10-24 Thread Simon McVittie
On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 at 18:05:45 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: (Let's use old wheel group in line with current documentations.) That's not in line with wheel's historical use, though... historically wheel meant may run su(8) at all. Everyone on a GNU system has the privileges traditionally given to

Bug#601380: general: Cursor changed after apt-get autoremove

2010-10-25 Thread Simon McVittie
On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 at 18:32:07 +0200, Victor Porton wrote: After apt-get autoremove mouse cursor in X/Gnome changed from white color to black color. You probably inadvertently removed the package containing your chosen cursor theme. My guess would be dmz-cursor-theme. The

Re: Static linking: pkgconfig vs libtool

2010-11-20 Thread Simon McVittie
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 at 22:30:09 +0100, Dmitry Katsubo wrote: * Some libraries (e.g. GraphicsMagick) does not provide the list of libraries for statis linking via .pc (compare 'pkg-config --static --libs GraphicsMagick++' and 'GraphicsMagick++-config --libs'). Should it be fired as a bug for

Re: Static linking: pkgconfig vs libtool

2010-11-21 Thread Simon McVittie
On Sat, 20 Nov 2010 at 21:58:56 +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | Upstreams are only meant to change the .pc filename when they make an | incompatible change to the API This seems to be the trend, but there's nothing in pkg-config's policies or best practices guide that specifies this. I'm a

Re: Static linking: pkgconfig vs libtool

2010-11-22 Thread Simon McVittie
On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 at 16:18:52 +0100, Dmitry Katsubo wrote: On 19.11.2010 22:51, Russ Allbery wrote: Dmitry Katsubo dm...@mail.ru writes: * Some libraries (e.g.) do not follow the agreement for .NET/CLI (http://pkg-mono.alioth.debian.org/cli-policy/ch-packaging.html#s-pkg-config-file)

Re: distinguish between core and main?

2011-06-06 Thread Simon McVittie
On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 at 08:29:03 +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: All these APIs and dynamic libraries are meant to provide backward compatibility. You're asking for forward compatibility, though: making applications in testing/main limit themselves to only doing things which already worked in

Re: Multiarch in Debian unstable

2011-06-27 Thread Simon McVittie
On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 at 15:31:24 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: Related to that, will Linux support fat binaries[*] one day? I doubt it; but multiarch doesn't make them any more problematic. If this is possible, where should they be installed, and how libraries would be searched in a consistent

Re: Multiarch and D-Bus

2011-07-01 Thread Simon McVittie
On Fri, 01 Jul 2011 at 09:39:54 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Before we start to work on some packages, I’d like to ask if someone has checked whether D-Bus is multiarch-safe. Said otherwise, is it possible to use a D-Bus interface over another architecture? D-Bus is machine-word-size-neutral

Re: Multiarch and D-Bus

2011-07-01 Thread Simon McVittie
On Fri, 01 Jul 2011 at 09:01:04 +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: Foreign-endian messages are always *meant* to have worked To clarify that a bit: messages can have either endianness, but libdbus will deal with that transparently, and always give library users data in native endianness (byteswapping

Re: Multiarch and D-Bus

2011-07-01 Thread Simon McVittie
On Fri, 01 Jul 2011 at 10:06:34 +0200, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote: Even dark corner like double endianess ? Doubles are byteswapped in exactly the same way as int64, I hope that's correct everywhere? (dbus/dbus-marshal-byteswap.c around line 73.) To be more specific: D-Bus assumes that doubles are

Re: Multiarch and D-Bus

2011-07-01 Thread Simon McVittie
On Fri, 01 Jul 2011 at 10:54:12 +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote: We used to have the ARM old-ABI architecture using mixed-endianness, but we don't have this architecture anymore (replaced by armel). D-Bus interop for doubles was always broken on ARM old-ABI, then, and nobody noticed :-( The

Re: Bug#633795: ITP: evolution-tray -- Plugin for Evolution to put it in notification area

2011-07-14 Thread Simon McVittie
On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 at 11:05:53 +0200, Arno Töll wrote: I can't believe Gnome 3 wouldn't support older legacy tray widgets though, I'd assume it would, similar to KDE 4, supports older tray widgets through some legacy wrapping. GNOME 3 has a freedesktop-compatible notification area (tray)

Re: How Debian Deals with Data

2011-07-16 Thread Simon McVittie
On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 at 01:31:21 +0200, Arno Töll wrote: On 16.07.2011 00:20, Christopher Baines wrote: The actual package would just contain the rules and checksums for the files it tries to fetch, but not the data itself just as a random alternative idea (where other people may judge

Re: A few observations about systemd

2011-07-18 Thread Simon McVittie
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 at 10:30:15 +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: I don't suppose it would be worth maintaining a patch-set in Debian to support other OSs: In a hypothetical future where systemd was the default init system for Debian, it's probably less work to support multiple init systems and let

Re: A few observations about systemd

2011-07-18 Thread Simon McVittie
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 at 12:34:52 +0200, Federico Di Gregorio wrote: Wasn't universal as in runs everywhere (i.e., on a lot of archs) vs as runs everything (when a Debian GNU/WinNT?). I've always understood the universal OS to mean all-purpose and/or for everyone. There's currently no CPU

Re: help with git

2011-07-21 Thread Simon McVittie
On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 at 19:16:50 +0200, Julien Valroff wrote: When running this type of config, how do you avoid pushing the upstream tags to the debian repository? To push individual tags, use git push origin 1.2-3 or something, instead of git push --tags. To get rid of the upstream tags from

Re: A few observations about systemd

2011-07-24 Thread Simon McVittie
On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 at 21:59:40 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: even init.d has a documented (and what's more, actually *working*) implementation of not starting daemons at boot. It's called 'remove the *** symlink'. If you remove them, they'll be recreated by the next upgrade; the right way

Re: Introduction of a lock group

2011-08-16 Thread Simon McVittie
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 at 11:19:05 -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote: But for those who think it's annoying to have to put 3 separate steps in your init script 'start' section (mkdir -p, chown, chmod), I'd like to point out that you may as well just use install -d, and do it all in one step. ... as

Re: *-config programs and multi-arch

2011-09-15 Thread Simon McVittie
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 at 16:53:26 +0900, Miles Bader wrote: Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no writes: Your cross-toolchain is supposed to set up a symlink from /usr/bin/$triplet-pkg-config to /usr/share/pkg-config-crosswrapper which will then DTRT. That's the idea at least, I haven't actually

Re: *-config programs and multi-arch

2011-09-15 Thread Simon McVittie
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 at 19:52:01 +0900, Miles Bader wrote: of course since there isn't an x86_64-w64-mingw32-pkg-config program, instead it just uses the normal pkg-config That's the missing piece of the puzzle: some sort of cross-toolchain package (which doesn't exist yet in Debian - but

Re: Could the multiarch wiki page be explicit about pkgconfig files?

2011-09-19 Thread Simon McVittie
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 at 19:01:04 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le lundi 19 septembre 2011 à 12:52 -0400, Ted Ts'o a écrit : OK, how about /usr/lib/triplet/debug/sbin/e2fsck? I just checked and gdb doesn't find the debugging symbols if I drop the debug files under /usr/lib/triplet. What

Re: Proxy compliance and assistance.

2011-09-22 Thread Simon McVittie
On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 at 14:13:31 -0500, Mike Mestnik wrote: I'd like to start a movement to verify and assist projects/packages with the proper deployment of software that supports proxies. In GLib-based applications, connecting using GSocketClient while having glib-networking installed will

Re: Bug#642416: ITP: node-which -- Like which(1) unix command for Node

2011-09-22 Thread Simon McVittie
On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 at 15:34:31 +0200, Jérémy Lal wrote: node-which finds the first instance of a specified executable in the PATH environment variable. How does this differ from: * the 'which' utility in debianutils (which is Essential: yes) * the 'which' builtin in shells that have copied

Re: Bug#642416: ITP: node-which -- Like which(1) unix command for Node

2011-09-22 Thread Simon McVittie
On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 at 16:50:43 +0200, Jérémy Lal wrote: By no means it is a replacement to existing 'which' tools, and no executable would be provided, only a library file. Please use a short description that makes it look like a library rather than calling it a utility, then (or a module or

Re: RE : Re: Proxy compliance and assistance.

2011-09-22 Thread Simon McVittie
On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 at 18:31:46 +0200, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote: See libproxy package Le 22 sept. 2011 12:10, Simon McVittie s...@debian.org a écrit : In GLib-based applications, connecting using GSocketClient while having glib-networking installed will automatically use a configured proxy

Re: Eliminating bash scripts?

2011-09-28 Thread Simon McVittie
On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 at 13:01:45 +0200, Thomas Hood wrote: * The package then has fewer dependencies * ... and can then be installed on a system without bash. This doesn't help Debian directly, but it may help upstreams to be portable to operating systems with a reason to use a non-bash shell -

Re: Bug#643669: ITP: pp-popularity-contest -- PredictProtein popularity contest

2011-09-28 Thread Simon McVittie
On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 at 16:38:11 +0200, Laszlo Kajan wrote: Without the funding received based on the usage statistics you contribute by installing this package none of the packages on Debian could have been made available to you at no cost. I'm pretty sure that's not true. None of the

Re: Bits from dpkg developers - dpkg 1.16.1

2011-10-03 Thread Simon McVittie
On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 at 17:11:21 +0200, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote: On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Florian Weimer f...@deneb.enyo.de wrote: Not necessarily.  -fPIC and -fPIE force calls to global functions defined in the same translation unit to go through the PLT.  They aren't translated to

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