package name (which as an end-user I always
appreciate), is more discoverable, and very unlikely to clash with
anything else. Then set up a /usr/libexec/mc as suggested else-thread,
and end-users will either use that or set up their own shell alias.
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relevant. I haven't traced the history that results in there being a
separate haskell-pandoc source package yet.
[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-haskell/2024/02/msg1.html
[2] https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/haskell-hakyll
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that there's too much magic. Some of that is
inherited from the Debian-specific tooling it sits on top of: I also
think there's too much magic and/or complexity in debuild and
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iteration of the debian package? Do the previous packagers hold
copyright?
[1] https://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/copyright-format/1.0/
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melonDS be usefully used without a BIOS/firmware dump from a DS?
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its the header field name.)
So I think that the next step would be for someone to start a draft to
update DEP3. I might do it myself at some point, but would be very happy
if someone else did it.
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keep it, and borg2 should exclusively use a different command name, even
though that makes us significantly divergent from upstream.
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ave raised
and should be addressed separately.
² perhaps starting with renaming it…
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change proposed by Steve.
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on the Debian mirrors.
I think it would be OK to have a video downloader package or a downloader
script in the main package but I don't plan to write it.
A possible good home for something like this is "game-data-packager".
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ing reason for there to be more than one
`which`, we could avoid the burden of alternatives entirely.
I should get off my soapbox now.
¹ Message-ID:
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, and there's a compelling reason that the GNU one
was chosen; but if so there's no evidence of that on -devel. :(
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enting a technical improvement
to a project-wide process would be the way to go. This pre-supposes that
there *was* a project-wide process. There I agree with other posters on
this thread: this is where to start.
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It's
*one* repository, not a system where people (not just Debian maintainers)
can create repos.
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> the subject line. Is this correct?
That will catch the initial ITP mail but none of the replies.
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articipated in the other
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tarted to assume an authoritative voice, which could
be misleading.
It's clear you want to get more involved in Debian, and that's great:
have you read <https://www.debian.org/intro/help>? That lays out the
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he driving force behind me trying to consume Debian
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y. You can match on the subject, but you will miss any
replies that change it. When I was doing this whatever I ended up with
didn't reach 100% accuracy.
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ian
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c. I think it would be better if
ITP mail went to a separate, dedicated list, e.g. "debian-itp" to which
contributors are encouraged to subscribe and participate.
Does anyone have any strong feelings about this, either for or against?
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ation of the result
would be true if the majority of people voted for that as their first
preference. They did not: it was the most-agreed upon preference between
two ideologically opposite factions. The majority of voting DDs
expressed a strong preference one way or the other.
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test change and leave it in DRAFT status whilst we debate that
point (since I believe there is consensus to move away from master, at
least, so land that change now)
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majority of it should.
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the smaller choice. One circumstance that
non-newbies might be interacting with a minbase system includes odd
environments where "apt install *" is not an option.
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port after jessie, re-activated as an unofficial
one in 2018, suitable for use on "new world" Apple Macs e.g. some Mac
Minis etc.?
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Write files random- to the current directory until the disk is full.
How does this compare to f3read and f3write, from the "f3" package?
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codenames, some not, same for numbers -
the real question is: Does it really matters?
This is a bad summary.
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support"
They still have to resolve what that means, right? You don't want them putting
"stable" in pinning etc. for the reason you list above. So, they still have to
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what Ubuntu do, if we wanted to increase
the remember-or-computability of the current version. I do like how easy it is
to look at an existing release number and be able to establish how old it is
(aah, 18.04, was released in April 2018)
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the release cycle to now.
In the past, this has been worked on via the debian-desktop@ list.
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, as a project, considering whether we would like something
different to what we have now, and I guess that's exactly what this thread is.
Best conducted at a project (requirements) level rather DSA (solutions) level.
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different for desktop
environments.)
I cannot reproduce it with gnome (1:3.30+1) running in an Xorg session
(rather than Wayland). Perhaps it has been fixed.
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twice (with and without dh),
inspects the resulting changes to the binary packages with diffoscope
and is confident that each change is appropriate.
Here you state your opinion but you haven't provided any rationale for
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my sub-thread is a hijack, but to be clear what I was referring to
was the naming of the pre-existing "Bikeshed" proposal for Debian,
which is equivalent to PPAs.
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Would the GNOME team kindly share with this thread the criteria that you folks
use to make your decision as to whether to default to Wayland in Debian?
Best wishes
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"Bikeshed" is a bad idea.
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dependency of the buildah tool.
I would love to see that (and podman) packaged in Debian. Thanks for
working towards this.
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On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 11:19:35AM -0300, Inaki Malerba wrote:
On behalf of the Salsa CI Team I'm pleased to announce some of the
changes we've been working on this weekend. We don't have an official
mailing list, so please excuse us if this is not the place for this
kind of announcements.
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https://packages.debian.org/sid/dgit
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), and the package managers are a small part of all the
differences between distributions.
That said, if you want to pursue this, the route above is how to do it.
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process populates
that path needs to please be updated. Thanks!
Or alternatively: if linking to arbitrary files in [1] is to be
deprecated we could change the link in the debian-policy document
instead.
[1] https://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/
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ithin the constraints of Debian stable release policies.
That's a very sensible decision for GNOME-in-Debian. I think it would be
wise of all the DEs in Debian (with possibly the notable exception of
KDE) aligned accordingly.
I'll take this to pkg-lxde-maintain...@alioth-lists.debian.net as the
ne
also modifying
the .desktop file to use xdg-open)
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this is a constructive comment.
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our next release but the one after.
¹ I can't remember our own code names any more.
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On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 11:31:40AM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
I'll upgrade to 7.6 and see what happens.
I've upgraded and /bin -> /usr/bin
However I didn't correctly check this before so it might have already
happened.
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have a merged /usr. It was, however, running a
much earlier version of 7.x originally. I can't remember which.
I'll upgrade to 7.6 and see what happens.
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a bug, is to check whether it has already been filed. And that's
what the page Ian linked to says.
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in upstream branches to git
repos) and I imagine is common on Salsa, too. In practise we are not
applying the DFSG to the content of the VCS, the wiki, or really much
except the archive.
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suggest the exact algorithm(s) used by <https://contributors.debian.org/>;
any shortcomings there should be fixed there.
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their Vcs-Git
pointing at salsa.../debian/*. (contrast this to the alioth arrangement,
where the Maintainer: field was also set to indicate this)
Therefore, the salsa "Debian" project is carrying a lot more meaning
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to differ, there's a huge difference of visibility between the
"main" Debian project, to which we are all members, and personal
namespaces. Not least the lack of any implied rules of behaviour.
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that the sky did not
fall and perhaps there are many advantages to this arrangement.
But of course, the wiki docs can be improved, including by you :-)
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and/or the
project of your package sources in the Debian project (more eyes, bus
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On Tue, Nov 06, 2018 at 12:37:30PM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Tue, Nov 06, 2018 at 11:58:57AM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
Well, if it wasn't for me, we'd probably be shipping the 2.40-version of
librsrv in Debian Buster and Firefox would be missing on a couple of
release
sn't exist
in Debian anymore.
Debian's Dictionary is in a weird order; "Thank You" is right next to
the definition of "Entitlement"
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to
bring -devel into this. All it does it cost the rest of us a small
amount of effort to bother looking it up. Instead I think it would be
both more polite and more effective to name them directly, AND ensure to
CC them on the mail discussing them.
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objection, I think the former category of
company is what's important.
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On Sat, Nov 03, 2018 at 04:25:15PM +0100, Christoph Biedl wrote:
s/joker/wildcard/ ?
Not sure here. Seems in English "joker" is unusual to describe a
wildcard, unlike other languages. If some native English speaker
could comment?
In English, in the context of a deck of cards, Joker and
the hypothetical competing company would
be too bashful to ask us to update the website. And we could pre-empt
the situation by making a clear statement as to the project's position
on listing Freexian (essentially codifying what I'm writing here,
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as default). I should get on and do it.
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policy, and helping to
explain the perspective of outsiders looking at our policies and coming
to different conclusions to the old-timers. It's valid, we just need to
follow through in the right place (-policy or in a bug) and fix policy
wording.
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on Debian.
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On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 09:32:57AM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
I dont think delaying fixes is a the best solution.
Especially since that's prioritising backports (support:
maintainer best-effort, as-is basis, use with care) over our main
release (full support)
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; but I'm not motivated to spend more time investigating.
Someone more troubled than I by this should both do that & file the
relevant bugs.
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA256
Format: 1.8
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 15:17:07 +0100
Source: trash-cli
Binary: trash-cli
Architecture: source
Version: 0.17.1.14-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Stefano Karapetsas
Changed-By: Jonathan Dowland
Description:
trash
actly this package to get this feature to work"
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There's room for improvement there. mutt (1.9.2-1) is worse
Error: verification failed: Unsupported protocol
both with the default configurations.
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/Muttrc files too.
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case basis.
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ntrol file)
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be installed on a different machine
to a MarieDB server.
, or how libxt6 does /not/ depend on an X server package, and so on,
and so forth.)
Same idea: separation of client and server.
The same is not true for libgpgme11.
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On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 09:09:38AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
Thanks for passing that along: I'm using it with Exim and haven't
noticed this particular problem, but it's useful to know it could
happen.
Ah, because I have User=nobody, and so the systemd sub-process can't
reap the privileged
problem, but it's useful to know it could
happen.
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abit, because
I have a lot of useful information in my journal.
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when stuff leaks through my killfile via quotes in your (or other
people's) mails.
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ect, and I
don't condone it.
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is to get a good spam filter. It's
effectively a solved problem these days. Hiding addresses makes
legitimate use of mail harder. Why let spammers make our lives
harder?
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